Why to right wingers and conservatives seem to hate the environment, environmentalists, and conservation...

Why to right wingers and conservatives seem to hate the environment, environmentalists, and conservation? Why cant you hate muslims and still care about the environment. It doesn't make any sense to me.

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Environments dead either way man. Technology is our only hope. A carbon tax or some other ridiculous feel good scheme won't save anything

Ya ever wonder if Steve Irwin hated muzzies?

Nobody likes the environment more than a conservative that hunts.

Leftists live in cities.

Idiot.

I miss Steve Irwin, he was my hero growing up.
t. Now grown up Wildlife Preservationist

Steve loved all animals, even muzzies

They typically don't.
They are sceptical about the extent to which "capitalism" is causing global warming/global cooling/climate change/whatever disaster it is you think is happening.
Mostly due to lack of evidence, additionally due to the people making the claims being extremely fucking suspicious and having a reputation for dishonesty.
The "racism is real but race isn't real when it suits us" crowd, aren't exactly dependable.

The environment is far from dead. It's going downhill but if people get their act together then that can be changed. The human race literally depends on the environment for basically everything so technology isnt the only hope. Plus the other life forms on earth have a right to live here too

How often do you beat your wife OP?

Hating the EPA and hating the environment are two different things. The EPA was a piece of shit that was never going to help anything except themselves. It was a waste of tax dollar so that led to thousands of jobs being lost because of "man made climate change" which does not even have enough proof to actually say humans have caused any climate change.

They don't. That's a lie fed to you by the left.

What they have a problem with is using govt regulation (violence) to save the environment.

But I care about the environment and don't like Islam

#notall/pol/lacks

I think this happens because there is a lot of political subversion that happens using the environment as an excuse but doing nothing to help it

Nature is fucking gay, I want a never ending city of discovery and progress. But not social progress, just scientific and commercialism. A literal mecca of technology. Lets just drink the universe dry. Instead of jerking off over seals, or whales, or whatever the fuck is important to hippies these days.

Yeah except humans cant live without the environment for food and oxygen and loads of other things

you can't have cities if nature doesn't work properly dumbass

Based retard

The people who make these claims aren't the 'left wing' or 'hippies' or anything like that. They are actually scientists who make their claims from solid evidence.

This. Hunting redpills even the most lib people.

the majority of the american right are religious people with a tendency towards anti-science. science tells them their religion is wrong so science is the enemy. therefore anything proposed by science is evil or fake.

also there's a lot of profit to be made in raping and pillaging the earth. after 30 years i don't think anti-environmentalism will be an issue. the boomers will die off and people will realize that jewish tricks or not the climate is changing and at the very least we should stop polluting the earth.

Because social conservative parties are bankrolled by multinational mining and industrial interests, it's not so much to do with the average voter as the political doners to their party they don't really pay attention to

>why does my misinformed preconception of certain people paint them as cartoonish villains?

Thats a very good insight. Thankfully both braindead religious retards and greedy boomers are gradually dying off now. The younger generations are a lot more willing to make a change on these issues I think. Hopefully stuff will start to get better

You are a moron.

Well if that's the case here a few points.

>Western populations have topped off.
>There isn't a single modern country with positive birthrates.
>Forest everywhere outside of Brazil have expanded in the past decade.

Compare this vs the leftist vision of how to fix the earth:

-Blot out the entire ground killing everything beneath it with solar panels.

-Block up rivers diverting them, destroying their native enviorments, destroying the fish that live in them, and those that travel to breed in the river.

-Stop the earth's wind to collect wind power causing massive bird deaths.

Did I miss anything?

Found the Christian

>the majority of the american right are religious people with a tendency towards anti-science
I don't think that's a very accurate statement, it's far too simplistic and belies a way of thinking that is childish in nature.
"Conservatives are the bad because I saw a river get polluted, so the right shouldn't exist! And that's my report on republicans!"

I do like environment tho.

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>the majority of the american right are religious people with a tendency towards anti-science. science tells them their religion is wrong so science is the enemy. therefore anything proposed by science is evil or fake.also there's a lot of profit to be made in raping and pillaging the earth

Ok.

How many genders are there?

What's the EROI on Solar, Wind?

You dumbfucks would use chinese slave labor to convert 10 barrels of oil to 7.5 barrels of oil of solar energy and call it a day.

In other words you will use slaves to save costs on building something that uses DRAMATICALLY more energy then it puts out.

And you want to call us the idiots?

>Why to right wingers and conservatives seem to hate the environment, environmentalists, and conservation?

most right wingers and conservatives live in the countryside retard

Yeah, burguer. Let's destroy our water and productive land rich in biodiversity that can produce great biotechnology in Brazil so a fucking fat faggot from liberty land can drive a huge car, eat meat 5 times a day and owns a pool. Fuck you Murica. If our government wasn't so bolivarian or USA bitch, we could have been a new pain in your ass long time ago.

I dont know what you mean by "modern country" but shit loads of countries have rapidly expanding populations. your criticisms of solar panels and turbines are just straight up wrong. However I agree with you on the dam one. You can turn nearly anything into a solar panel, like roofs for example and turbines dont stop the wind

We don't hate the enviroment. We hate morons who fantasize about this so called 'Global Warming' myth, think that people who disagree should be fined, and want to rule people like cattle in the name of it. Also considering that 80% of these low life sub-human libtards never stepped one foot outside of the city makes it even more rich.

Funny how the left doesn't even know the definition of 'progress' and yet call themselves 'progressive'. They are so damn stupid they don't even realize how fucking stupid they are.

No, YOU are

So your point is that they are uneducated?

>I dont know what you mean by "modern country" but shit loads of countries have rapidly expanding populations.

Any country outside of Africa.... Are you not aware of this? You talk about population but you have no idea the only places in the world with growth is AFRICA!

cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2054rank.html

>You can turn nearly anything into a solar panel, like roofs for example and turbines dont stop the wind

Except you would need a roof the size of Texas to power the US. Why destroy the environment like that? Not to mention that investment alone would use 30% oil than it would take to just burn it at a power plant. Why create all that pollution -- what would you accomplish.

Should we get used to a society with lights on for 8 hours a day like Iraq so we can live in liberal pipe dream?

Conservation is huge among most conservatives. All these "suburban and rural retards" the left paints us as actually get to enjoy the outdoors, fishing and hunting, and want to keep the environment healthy. To liberals "the environment" is a mystical place, a Mecca they hope to one day visit when they leave their big cities for a weekend (but certainly not to go camping). To conservatives the environment is home, the place where man and nature work with around around each other. Every time I start feeling depressed or out of sorts, I leave the city to go visit my family in the country, walk in the woods, and I feel better.

Because the government -as a rule- is incredibly incompetent and 99% of the time, the only proposed solutions involve more government.

Midwest states in the US have by far the highest IQ's. But whatever.

someecards.com/news/news/states-ranked-by-intelligence/

Riiiiight
99% of scientists have got it wrong

Nope. He's saying that they live in the environment you cuck. I know that's hard to wrap your indoctrinated mind around. You're cult is a lie.

And by the way go to a city like Seattle where they tell you how much they love that environment and then realize they've mowed down most of the forest so they can live among the concrete. Very compassionate people. Destroy the environment, and save the bums. Now that is something to get behind.

This. Keep our planet beautiful.

>thinking global warming is the EPA's main issue

Whether global warming is real or not, it is mind you, you're a retard if you think otherwise; but regardless of that, the EPA protects the environment from pollution.

To argue that has no impact... Why don't you take a look back in the past of the US before it existed. Where huge swaths of land are now untenable do to nuclear, methane, etc., pollution, people legit can't go there.

Or look at China and India today where they have almost no regulation and can pump waste into the water and air by the shit load.

Over 500,000 people die per year in China from air pollution related illnesses alone. One recent Chinese survey found nearly 40% of all water sources in China are rated at grade 5 on China's health institute's water grading scale. That is the lowest possible grade and means the water is so polluted it has literally no functional use, it can't even be purified.

To argue this is irrelevant is beyond stupid. But that makes sense coming from a retarded Republican.

Wow where's all that bigotry coming from, user?

2 genders?

the energy return on investment would be almost infinite because it's renewable.

i have no idea what you're talking about with slave labor. sure it costs more to invest in it but it's inarguably the best considering it's free fucking energy that doesnt pollute.

(you)

then prove me wrong. i never said ALL, but the majority, yes. i live in Texas in a city built around oil so maybe the conservatives down here are different than the conservatives in montana or idaho.

Nope. There isn't no 99% scientists. You make up this number because you WANT to believe in this retarded fantasy. You are a climate cultist. In fact, most scientists disagree with your 'Global Warming' lie.

Unlike you, I have proof:
heartland.org/publications-resources/publications/why-scientists-disagree-about-global-warming

youtu.be/D-m09lKtYT4

You can eat your own bull shit now.

Environmentalists are always like watermelons. Green on the outside, red on the inside.

gas the pandas, can the whales, shoot the monkeys, nuke the elephants, hang the tigers, who cares

Dude are you actually saying that Chinas population isn't expanding? India? Even the USA is growing. Just google it.

Burning oil is such a retarded way of doing things. There are so many ways that are much better. Rather than having a roof the size of Texas, you could have a panel on the roof of every home or building. That would be well enough power. Plus theres nuclear power which is not at all polluting and not dangerous if done right

It's cute how other people told you the 99% meme and you believed it.
Protip: Climate change is (at worst) exacerbated by human activity, not the primary mover. We should move to cleaner fuels for efficiency's sake. You can have both of these thoughts at once, it's okay.

>"I think you're retarded, prove me wrong"
You're the one making the claim, the burden of proof isn't on my shoulders.

>the energy return on investment would be almost infinite because it's renewable.

Holy shit. Can you please cite this with a scientific publication?

Have you ever heard the phrase "There's no such thing as free lunch"?

Im very nationalistic and believe that our nation has a duty to preserve our environment

I posted the stats straight for the CIA.

cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2054rank.html

Not really, tech is what killed the environment in the first place. It not only destroys the environment, but it makes people degenerate too. Tech is the work of Satan, most of the problems stem from it.

I don't think conservatives hate the environment, only capitalists do because they profit from destroying it. For them to make big money, someone else has to lose it....and it's mostly the environment

The only thing I care about is dumping chemicals, chemical polution in the air, and protecting keystone species.
Globalwarming/climate change is a hoax.
Here in canada we have some of the cleanest coal plants in the world but our government is trying to shut them down because muh evil co2.
The Environmentalist narrative has been hijacked by them

George Carlin even made fun you you enviro-retards.

youtu.be/BB0aFPXr4n4

>Why to right wingers and conservatives seem to hate the environment, environmentalists, and conservation? Why cant you hate muslims and still care about the environment. It doesn't make any sense to me.

Why are these enviromentalists always cooperating with left wing politics? Why are they are painting all industry and all capital no matter the size as unquestinably evil?

It's like our academia all got involved with left wing politics since the 70-s after the Muslim Brotherhood started to spread chaos by financing radical movements.

>only capitalists do because they profit from destroying it.

What's the enviorment like in China, Haiti, Ukraine, Russia,?

Oh shit you know what you're right. North Korea is actually one of the most pristine environments on earth. But then again the people are eating so much of the grass now for subsistence that could change.

What was the first country to institute environmental controls by the way? I've got all day.

Dope a guy that was angry no woman would fuck him for money. George Nye The Science Guy.

Do you take all your social cues from Hollywood, or just enviormentalism?

Nazi Germany had the most advanced environment and animal protection at the time.

It's because traditionalist nationalists and pagans need to be in good terms with the nature. Their people's traditions are connected to nature.

> seem to hate the environment

Could say the same for leftys that want to import a larger population. When push comes to shove humans are animals and will destroy their environment as surely as Reindeer on St Matthew Island dieoff.org/page80.htm

The only force that can keep humans in check is other (territorial) humans.

Closed Borders is all about protecting your environment.

Most everyone would agree we can't allow egregious polluting. We don't allow radioactive waste to be dumped in the rivers etc.

But when push comes to shove when it's people's livelihoods vs the environment, the need to live outweighs the need to live well.

These restrictions cannot be the foundation of environmental protection or we limit not just egregious polluting, but start limiting the casual minor impacts a human might have on their environment in the course of their lives. People won't abide having their lives made difficult or impossible. They'll say fuck the environment.

The foundation of environmental protection is population control.

As an aside, nobody has proven Climate Change is due to changing levels of CO2.

Just a cash grab by control freak lefties that think the real world is their Sim City.

But that's bollocks, we love nature, appreciation of nature is part of our culture. But we don't see it as a fluffy, Disney-esque thing and we're utterly revolted by the cult of Enviromentalism. Why do you Lefties claim to love nature but also push for mass immigration from nations that have high birthrates but use very few resources? What do you think happens to the environment if 5 million Somalis and Eritreans leave their home and come to overcrowded, nature depleted Europe where they not only continue to have the same amount of kids they did in Africa, but use the same amount of resources as a European? It seems to me that being right wing is the only way to conserve nature, and also preserve the diversity you're always whining about but do your best to destroy via forced mixing of cultures and races.

> I have proof
> points to fossil fuel funded research think tank article

Point to some peer reviewed research articles and we might take you seriously.

Underrated

>gib proofs
>no not that proofs

Muslims are right-wing.

Lol... I wouldn't waste my time because I can't take you people seriously. No one does. lol

>Believes in a MSM/comedy central caricature of conservatives

Yes remember, Blacks and Muslims are angels who do no wrong. If they do it's the fault of some grievance we committed 200 years ago. And all southerners fuck their sisters, drink piss beer, watch ebony porn, and shoot niggers in their pick up trucks. Also White liberals and liberal Jews are the saviors of mankind guiding humanity to peace, progress, and a kind utopia.

Makes you think.

Not here they don't. Deer aren't declared a pest in nsw despite the damage they cause because hunters want to keep them categorized as game. Also they ain't allow culling of horses in our alpine region cos muh man from snowy river bullshit.

>Point to some peer reviewed research articles and we might take you seriously.

Scientist majority funding comes from the government, government demands certain ideologies are contained in their research or they don't get grants. Good argument.

Anyone remember climategate, and their phony algorithms? Anyone also remember the fact that no SCIENTISTS actually spoke out about lying about it. Since it fit their worldview, and from their worldview lying is completely ok as long as it justifies their means. (AKA income.)

Conservation is fantastic, pain in the ass regulations about my catalytic converter is not

>Why are these environmentalists always cooperating with left wing politics?

They are called coalitions you idiot.

Its the same reason why hardcore religious people join forces with capitalism run amok advocates; despite worshiping a literal communist.

Disparate groups have no power to enact legislation so they form coalitions of various interest groups to achieve a majority.

Since it is better to get some of what you want compromising with your coalition than to get none of what you want going it alone.

You really dug deep in forming this opinion didnt you?

That's just ignorant

You realise that what he posted is not peer reviewed? No better than a blog or the daily mail.

>despite worshiping a literal communist.

Literal communist. So Jesus had a membership to the communist party? How many times have you actual read the bible vs how many times you've incorrectly cited it to fit your worldview? Do you find lying to be objectionable?

Oh and by population control I mean control of OTHER PEOPLE's population.

Like a territorial chipmunk controls the population of other chipmunks where it lives.

I do not mean some hipster environmentalist telling everyone how many children they can have. This hipster should be first of the population to be controlled.

I'll hate whatever I want you little faggot.

i would consider myself an ancap but i'm pretty big on environment. i just wouldn't subscribe to a community that doesn't demand service from its constituents to keep a clean and orderly space.

excuse me sir

So you overlooked my other post because you can't defend the link and video I sent. Typical left wing cultist. Always avoiding the facts.

You retards are no longer worth my time. Enjoy your tiny delusion. I wonder what is going to happen to you when you are forced to live in the real world. It's both going to be so funny and so sad all at once.

Ugh, I can't believe I waste my time with these mentally challenged cunts.

Hipsters hate children.
They'll barely survive a single generation let alone 2
Nature always finds a way

>your military takes it into account when strategising
>it's not real i swear

Ok

But no western population is growing. Are you guys blind. That's the whole point of immigration. Outside of them becoming semi under-class slaves to support our welfare system. You cannot have welfare and a shrinking population because of compound interest payments on debt.

Would you like a country like Japan where in 30 years you'll have 55% of a population over 65? What the fuck is wrong with you.

>when you realize everything is just stuff written by somebody and it's up to you to put value in what they're saying or not
Your proofs are more valuable than his proofs because you believe your proofs and consider his incorrect, that's why you don't value it. You come at it with your own preconception in every bit the way you accuse right-wingers of.

I'm the furthest thing from the left wing bud. Perhaps something was lost in translation.

>You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

He probably would have had some stupid blown up scandal and his name dragged through the mud like Mel Gibson by now.

If what you were saying was even remotely true you'd see contrarian papers pop up everywhere when conservative governments come into power. If you think scientists are that dishonest that they are only doing things for the money then why wouldn't what I stated happen?

Scientists get paid very little for the hard work they do, compared to a job like engineering for example. Really isn't the right field to go into if you're only concerned about money. You'd be better off working for a fossil fuel company..

But still, you can't point to peer reviewed literature because it very rarely exists in the literature. It has been shown time and time again that CO2 is the main driver of climate. Solar cycles cannot explain the current trend of warming. The activity from the Sun has been steady since the 50's, yet the Earth has nearly warmed by 1 degree Celsius. Thus the only explanation is that the way the Earth holds onto heat has changed.

>coal plants
Too inefficient. I'm fine with them shutting those down as long as they make new Nuclear plants, which is the greenest practical energy producer we have.

That said, I'm fucking pissed how much we get taxed from the environmental tax. We make < 1% of the total greenhouse gases, but they act like Canada is the main reason the world is heating it.

In reality (or at least by common liberal logic), the climate change situation would slow down considerably if China/India stopped belching out CO2, and if we stopped giving African warlords food so their population would stop exploding. Africa is an insanely fertile land, and it's just been left to waste away.

Throughout high school and Uni only one of my Earth science teachers/professors have ever pushed the students to learn about 'climate change' and 'we are all going to die because the sea level is rising thanks to whitey' memes.The openly gay, liberal teacher. All the rest just sort of chuckled and said there wasn't enough evidence to draw conclusions on anthropogenic climate change.
Also, this
youtube.com/watch?v=Gh-DNNIUjKU

You have no idea what you're talking about m8.

The current and previous administrations in Texas have invested heavily into wind power and renewable energy.

Have you ever driven around your fucking state? People are selling out land for wind farms all over the place (obviously not in the city, because you don't put wind turbines in the middle of a city).

t. actual Texas

>what is the scientific method and peer review

American education strikes again

We clearly hold different standards of evidence. I want to know what the scientists who are actively studying the field have to say, and they don't go reporting to the heartland institute, they publish in Nature, in Science, in other respected peer reviewed journals.

This is my number one question everyday. I could almost get behind shutting down the borders and clamping down on illegals and boarding the train to the glory of Western Civ -- but you have to be a fucking idiot not to see that the climate change denial thing is all corporate bullshit to fool the same people the oligarchs have been fooling into voting against their interests forever.

When I see a person who's a RW shill and also hates the environment, I question his or her sanity and dismiss everything else that might come out of his or her mouth.

The Republican Party is a big tent, and incorporates a large amount of people from Appalachia and the Midwest, which rely heavily on coal and oil respectively. Environmental regulations harm their economy, and so their representatives fight against the EPA. The greater Republican Party has adopted these issues in to heir national platform in order to win elections and legislative battles.

Republicans outside of these areas usually either don't really care or at least somewhat support the EPA.

Dis nickel or arne naess?

>climate change would slow down if China/India stopped

That is true, but they are going through the development phases that we already went through in the past.

It is not fair for us to expect them to skip over that step of developing to developed.

By allowing them to do it, we can monitor them and they abide by guidelines to slowly reduce their pollution output. If we just outright attacked them (verbally) and criticized them they could just withdraw from the treaties all together and pollute the world to their heart's content with no restrictions whatsoever.

>If what you were saying was even remotely true you'd see contrarian papers pop up everywhere when conservative governments come into power.

When was the last time a conservative was in power? 8 years ago. Around the same time the polar caps were supposed to vanish?

And this is wrong for more reasons than that. You're assuming they want to waste money on something they believe to be a wholesale fraud in order to levy taxes against them..... Ok....

>Scientists get paid very little for the hard work they do, compared to a job like engineering for example.

Because they aren't doing work that is deemed worthy of high pay. For the same reason gender studies doesn't pay.

>Solar cycles cannot explain the current trend of warming.

So the very thing that warms the earth isn't correlated to varying temperatures. Fucking kill yourself. This is like saying the amount of gas coming out of the stove doesn't effect the temperature as it's burning. Holy fuck.... LOL

>The activity from the Sun has been steady since the 50's, yet the Earth has nearly warmed by 1 degree Celsius.

Did you read the sentence you wrote before that little gem? Are you trolling me? IF the sun is steady BUT HAS NO EFFECT - why the fuck would you mention it. It contradicts the sentence completely that came before it.

>Thus the only explanation is that the way the Earth holds onto heat has changed.

High school dropout, or a college dropout - or both?

Conservatives, national socialists and fascists pretty much started the modern conservationist and environmentalist movement. I'm very much in support of protecting our natural treasures, stopping toxic dumping, protecting critical ecosystems and endangered species, I advocate for building Gen III nuclear reactors and heavily researching Gen IV, I advocate against shitty brown and black people who are destroying the environment with their population explosions and total disregard for ecology, I advocate against globalism and consumerism and for sustainable volkische lifestyles. However, I reject the whole anthropogenic climate change narrative because I see it for what it is: an attempt to impose a carbon controlled totalitarian economy and execute a massive global wealth redistribution scheme.