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Hello I just wanted to remind you that you lost and you were born in the wrong face of history so please stop making these threads thanks.
John Brooks
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Anthony Moore
butt
Luke Brooks
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Angel Thompson
Hello, I just wanted to remind you that you are a cuck and a faggot and that nationalists are retaking the earth and Trump and Brexit was just the start but thanks for the bump sweetie. Thanks
Lucas Richardson
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Joseph Jackson
Hail victory bump
Ryan Ward
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Jackson Kelly
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Jeremiah Foster
>Hi I just wanted to remind you that your race will be wiped from the Earth Hi Shlomo
Robert Cook
Hail victory lad
Thomas Cook
bump
There isn't enough serious discussion about NatSoc and Fascism on Sup Forums anymore
Logan Peterson
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Henry Sullivan
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Brody Watson
Because people are tired with your useless threads you won't come back that's for sure also you natsoc loving larping faggots ruined fascism in Europe so you don't deserve to live
Kayden Morales
this bump
Justin Nelson
Kill yourself.
Jaxon Brown
True, it's probably related to the increase in phone posting - it's too much effort to type up long shit on your phone - I will admit I'm guilty of this as well.
Jonathan Nguyen
I don't want NatSoc per se, NatSoc was a Germany's spin on Fascism and I wouldn't say it was ruined as so much its been put on hold, it'll make a comeback if things keep going the way they are
Blake Martinez
You first faggot
Sebastian Foster
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Dylan Walker
NatSoc was the best implementation of fascism that has ever been accomplished.
I agree with this, modern NatSoc doesn't have to be a carbon copy of the original, personally I would prefer more privatisation of industries etc but these are small points. The main thing is that we need to make Europe white again and should support anything that advances this goal and not be tied to a particular ideology. Having said that I think the redpill on NatSoc is an important pill to swallow so I think these threads are useful
Ryan Flores
Hail Orban!
Joseph Morgan
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Jason Edwards
If "Capitalism and Marxism are two sides of the same jewish coin", what is the best alternative to them?
Hudson King
>orbán
Wyatt Martin
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James Collins
>If "Capitalism and Marxism are two sides of the same jewish coin", what is the best alternative to them? National Socialism, duh.
Evan Foster
There's a lot that could be improved upon, I'm not posting pic related to fuck with you guys, its important to realize the flaws that it had so that we can fix it next time around.
As for me personally, I like Falangism more since it embraces Hispanidad, being a bean I feel like this can help the Mestizo, Castizo and Hispanic people better than democracy and communism ever could, we beans naturally tend to be shitty people when left to our own devices, we need strong leadership and something to pour our energy into if we want to improve as a people
Blake Butler
National Socialism - that's why it's called the third position
Chase Martinez
natsoc is not an economic system, it's a political ideology
Daniel Brooks
>natsoc is not an economic system, it's a political ideology Adolf Hitler and the German Economic Miracle youtube.com/watch?v=FQu3ovIlPh4
Yeah, I know he's a like ass licker like all people in power today but at least he is fighting the EU and immigration. I believe we should avoid 'punching right' in these cases as much as possible as long as someone is helping to push things more in our direction
Xavier Murphy
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Kayden Rivera
>Capitalism and Marxism By "capitalism", they meant that they distinguished between two types: >international finance globalism >producer-oriented capitalism And obviously Marxism = Communism; in the Natsoc philosophy Marxism represented "false socialism", an anti-social philosohpy that removed all pro-social concerns. Natsoc, by contrast, was "true socialism", a philosophy mostly ambivalent about economics, but fanatic about society, race, heritage, and faith.
Ayden Hall
I see your point. But in the end Kosher parties wont save us.
Carson Martin
>National Socialism >(((Soialism)))
Andrew Fisher
As I said economically speaking I think there are things that should be updated in NatSoc.
By bean I'm guessing you mean Hispanic? I agree that each people should have their own political ideology that suits their character, much as the different denominations of Christianity suit the different ethnicities. Falangism suited the Spanish and NatSoc suited the Germans. Mosley attempted British fascism which was essentially adapted NatSoc which I believe would still be the ideal system in Britain, larpy as it may sound.
Christopher Collins
>is a kike that uses (((echoes))) Hi Froghurt
Justin Ward
>tfw when froghurt cant even type the same shit he spammed for years now correctly
Luis Hill
Alright. So, capitalism is tolerable as long as finance is regulated, usury is banned, etc. Am I understanding correctly? Also where does Mussolini's theory of supercapitalism fit into this, if at all?
Jace Scott
>nationalists are retaking the earth
The right wing populist movement has been in a decline ever since Trump took office, actually. Geert and Le Pen didn't even win like predicted. The world heading back to liberalism.
Lucas Morales
I agree but they are pushing the Overton window
Alexander Morgan
I'm in between Mestizo and Castizo to be honest but as far as white people are concerned I'm brown, we'd need a modified version of Falangism suited to beans since we're not a monolithic people, we range from Mestizos, Castizos and pure blooded Hispanics, right now our "culture" is a disgusting parody of Spanish culture but after living in the US my whole life and seeing that the best of us can assimilate, I think we can united the beans under a common culture.
I'm just trying to figure out a way to save my people from themselves but I'm starting to lean towards just helping Americanized Beans and any other worthwhile beans south of the border, the indios and chicano/cholo scum who have been niggerfied are going to have to go
Hunter Ortiz
>capitalism is tolerable as long as finance is regulated, usury is banned, etc Well, producer-oriented capitalism. You get used to these contrast after a while reading their literature (Feder, Hitler, et al): there is true and false capitalism, true and false socialism, etc. In the end, Natsoc was the embodiment of both concepts: producer capitalism, and pro-social philosophy (true socialism). SOme people describe this as a mixed system, others as centrism, others as "third position". >where does Mussolini's theory of supercapitalism fit into this, if at all? Arguably, it wasn't that different. Its hard to find philosophical differences between Mussolini and Feder, the NSDAP theorist. I would recommend reading 'Mussolini's Intellectuals' to really understand Fascism, and Feder to understand Natsoc.
See the below: touches on economics - while NatSoc was somewhat flexible on economics it had significant differences in principle from Capitalist and Communist economics.
It's that one nigger that can't ever get it into his stupid nigger skull that NatSoc is not ((((Socialism)))))
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 1) >"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))"
Marxist (Left) socialism and National (Right) Socialism are "antipodal zeitgeists engaged in dialectic". That's a fancy way to say they're opposite ideologies designed to clash, like Yin and Yang.
NatSoc was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while Marxist socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on racial identity. Socialism, in contrast, was a class war between workers, bosses, and owners (Capitalists), aiming to build a workers state in which race and gender were insignificant. Socialists, especially Marxist socialists, were anti-religious atheists, whereas NatSoc went so far as to make Christianity the religion of the state.
The differences go on and on: Marxist socialism was internationalist, NatSoc was nationalist. Marxist socialism was egalitarian, whereas NatSoc believed that nature was unequal and required competition. Marxist socialism wanted to nationalize all private industry, while NatSoc privatized every major industry except the railroads (it considered these a military asset. In fact, Hitler once joked "they didn't need to nationalize property because they nationalized people". NatSoc drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class-focused socialism as a non-German.
Christian Smith
wow nice, ill add it to the pastebin
Charles Fisher
thisNatsoc just sees the economics as something less important. People first.
"Economy should serve to people, not people to the economy."
Tyler Price
Bingo.
Matthew Peterson
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 2) >"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))"
NatSoc redefined socialism as "Germanism/Volkism", which they saw as "producer-oriented capitalism", as opposed to "Jewish capitalism", aka, international finance, globalism, wall street, etc. In theory, NatSoc economics was a version of Keynesianism, tailored to the Völkisch nature of whichever people adopted it. Its not one dogmatic economic system,and Hitler often joked that the lack of a specific ideology was their strength. NatSoc could be more "free market" as Americans know it, or less. But NatSoc is always in favor of the Volk over economic identity, of "producer capitalism" over "finance capitalism".
Hitler tried to clarify the distinction in 1938: >“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. >Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. ((((Marxism))) is anti-property; true socialism is not. ((((Marxism))) places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”
I'll be giving the holocaust revisionism pastebin a much needed update next but eventually I will be adding more links and organizing the list in the future.
Justin Martin
I like to think of them more as cracks in the dam before it bursts
Carter Cooper
bamp
Jackson Taylor
We'll, I think that the USA is a white nation so ideally you should go back to your homeland but as long as you are helping whites and stick to your own race then it's good.
By the way try listening to the 'Beyond the Wall' podcast on TRS, you may like it
Hunter Green
You know, part of the reason why I knew Trump wouldn't be a fascist or even a truly ardent Nationalist was the fact that he was never in the Military or in combat, most Fascist leaders have been through the fires of combat and understand the nature of war
When a fascist movement grow in the US, it'll start as a Veterans movement
Andrew Murphy
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Jaxson Ortiz
>When a fascist movement grow in the US, it'll start as a Veterans movement
>tfw 'the war room' on trs is the epicentre of the coming American fascist reich and white Sharia becomes real
Christopher Sanchez
It's a rock and hard place, trying to sort out how the US would divide iteself as an ethnostate. Hispanic Americans that are assimilated are often mixed race, or mostly white. Those that are not are still heavily connected to Mexico, or their country of origin in the South. If they were to stay, there would have to be some notion reached of their own ethnostate. How exactly it all divides up at this point is hard to discern: >blacks somewhere in the South, or sent to an African colony via some arrangement >Hispanics constituted probably in California / the South-West >Whites in the northern states along the border But politically speaking, for this to even be possible would require a massive disruption to the current world system. The elites of this country would go to war to prevent it, although people who want ethnostates could voluntary start to divest themselves from the current system, and form alternative systems for themselves and their communities -- perhaps along already existing demographic distributions.
Ethan Parker
>white Sharia Isn't this just MGTOW? Most Natsocs are against this.
James Cruz
My take on the US and race is that it is entirely possible for us latinos and whites to live together in the US, thanks to the Marxist revisionism of history most people have forgotten that before 1965 life was better for everyone, it wasn't until the (((Immigration Act of 1965))) that things really started going to shit. If we want to preserve the US, we must maintain a white majority or else it will all fall apart and no one will be happy.
Of course I think a part of fixing this is to kick out all the niggers, illegals/anchor babies, hajis and kikes, most will disagree but I think that any worthwhile beans that are left, and it really won't be that many to be honest, can be a part of an American Fascist society
Hunter Diaz
>white sharia you disgust me
Leo Fisher
I personally believe that it would be best if we tried to preserve the American identity without going full civic nationalists, if the beans want to be a part of it, they need to come to accept that we need in order to keep it alive. I don't think we can survive so long as there are niggers and kikes around.
If it all falls apart, I'd like to see a Castizo/Hispanic led Falangist government that isn't beholden to anyone south of the border for Americanized beans in California, build a wall between us and Mexico to keep that cancerous northern Mexican culture out, if worthwhile hispanics, castizos and mestizos want in, they'll have to get in line and prove themselves, same thing for any non Iberian Europeans, wouldn't want to let any jews in now would we?
Jace Hill
>white Sharia That's fucking stupid as hell.
Sharia is anti-White. Islam is anti-White. Arabs have no place in White countries.
Jose Cook
FPBP
Ian Ortiz
I've heard some people make the argument that North American whites are a distinct race and ethnicity at this point, due to all the trace amounts of other races, especially hispanic lineages. It doesn't make a lot of sense to people int he Anglosphere, the Latin American notion of caste variations, but it could. Time will tell, and the ethnostate is far in the future if at all, if we even survive to that point. I trust these issues will be debated and worked out in that time. >I don't think we can survive so long as there are niggers and kikes around. Definitely. These two groups are the least assimilable, impossible in fact. Jews already have their own state of Israel, and sending the ones we have there would be a massive "brain boost" for them, probably ending any need to remain dependent (parasitically) on US aid. The black question is more difficult: blacks will resist any changes, beneficial or otherwise, and might require some kind of forced repatriation anywhere -- in North America or Africa. Some would go willingly, but the majority are too integrated into the welfare system, too low IQ, too socially degenerate. It would be Baltimore riots on a multi-state scale.
Nolan Thompson
When's the next Sup Forums cup btw?
Grayson James
It's a fucking joke meme you retards (Or is it real and this is just white takiya)
Asher Perez
>It's a fucking joke meme No, there are definitely serious proponents of it. Not just here, but Daily Stormer, TRS, etc, etc. Enough to get discussed on Far Right podcasts:
I see what you're saying and although it is all larping anyway I can't agree. What you suggest will inevitably lead to mixing between latinos and Whites which even if on a small level will only degenerate the white genes while giving no benefits to whites overall. Although I can sympathise with the fact you wouldn't want to live in the shithle of south and Central America a line in the sand needs to be drawn.
Caleb Morris
Like I said earlier, American Fascism will be uniquely American, will it involved us Beans? Maybe, I hope it does, but if the worst happens and European Americans are backed into a corner, you guys should defend yourselves and look out for each other, if it reaches that point I think all the races and ethnic groups in this Hemisphere will be looking out for themselves too
I'll never forget what an old Mestizo man, a Pacific War veteran, once told me, he told me of an America where life was better for everyone, none of this Marxist bullshit, no Mexishit nationalists shitting things up, no wild packs of niggers raping and murdering.
I just wish I could've lived in that America
Landon Morales
Thanks. I'll look into this literature.
Zachary Brooks
Yeah there are some autists that don't realise it's a joke and take it seriously as always and some no fun allowed fags like you posted who dont get the joke.
Isaiah Moore
You're just looking out for your people, if it all falls apart then I'd like to see a Falangist California for latinos and hispanics who have been Americanized, the truth is we can't go back to those shitholes because we'd be foreigners anyways and we can't shoehorn ourselves into White people's society, we'd need our own thing
Still, I'm optimistic that given the US's history, it could work, so long as everyone in the country safeguards the peace
Cameron Stewart
Yeah, its going to be a hard discussion, but it has to happen. Once we take account of how much mixing has actually taken place since 1965, its going to be hard. No one wants to admit that race isn't clearcut in such circumstances, but that's why promoting race-mixing is so diabolical. They did it on purpose. This was their insurance policy. Maybe Americans will have to adopt a more Latin American sense of "racial caste", who knows.
This is why racialists need to get started moving in this direction RIGHT NOW, before there are further demographic changes.
I get that you were joking, but trust me. Go try to talk against it on Daily Stormer, watch the massive rage before you get banned.
Dylan Gray
the mestizos are as bad as the niggers- not quite as awful to live around, but they breed faster so it equals out
Jason Hill
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Daniel Turner
I believe you about the stormer but doesn't change my point, Anglin is the biggest bantzer out of anyone and never lets a good meme go to waste
Matthew Rogers
>I'd like to see brown people take over California
And this is why this country will never, ever, ever be your home, not in 1000 years. Go back. You belong here no more than niggers or jews, and are just as bad as them if not worse.
Julian Bailey
What if I believe in everything the Nazis did excluding the jew/race stuff and also I want democracy? Does that make me just a patriotic guy?
Brandon Gomez
The name is a meme, the principal is a good one. And it's mainly just the christian cuckolds who get mad about the name anyway.
Parker Morgan
To be perfectly honest, its too late for america. Many americans are mixed and most are likely mixed between european ethnicities. Its too late for us but hopefully it Europe will learn from our mistake before its too late.
Angel Davis
We're LARPing about the hypothetical collapse of the US here brah, I'm just looking out for my people in the case that it happens. Also, niggers or jews aren't native to this side of the hemisphere, we don't want them here either
You really need to stop acting surprised that we'd have different goals and interests, Americanized Beans can't go back because we'd have no place in any society south of the border, if anything south of the border counts as a society and besides, I'd want to go with a Falangist government that embraces Hispanidad and stamp out any indio bullshit that might sneak in
Ryder Fisher
Well basically you are just a guy that appreciates and is drawn to the power of NatSoc Germany but is not on board yet which is the status of a lot of people. Their ideology and image was was so powerful it is attractive even to their detractors.
If you are a nationalist but don't believe in the importance of race you are a civic nationalist. Take the racial realist pill and it will all start to fall into place.
Hunter Turner
Anglin is dead serious about it, and so are his followers. Unless he has contempt for his forum users, and is just stringing them along. Maybe his stances on race mixing are also a joke too, but he actually does race mix so hard to believe "its just memes". Anyway, not trying to jump down your throat, we just get a fair share of people serious about it in here. Just looking out for ya.
> also I want democracy Generally frowned on, but Nordfront is pro-limited democracy. Most natsocs in the Anglophere would probably also tolerate limited, local democracy for townships and the like, to handle local affairs the government wouldn't handle efficiently. Read the Nordfront position paper.
MGTOW isn't a good idea. Raping non-whites isn't a good idea. MGTOW = white genocide.
>Many americans are mixed and most are likely mixed between european ethnicities Thus the notion that we are a distinct ethnicity and should behave as one. But we are undoubtedly part of Europe's heritage, racially, culturally, philosophically, linguistically, etc. The "it's too late" meme is garbage, we aren't just going to sit here and die out. >believed the LARP meme No one's larping, its a real concern. Next major financial crisis, or the white population dropping below 40% -- expect to see widespread conflict.
Christian Hall
Bump.
Andrew Carter
It makes you a fool
Democracy is fundamentally leftist- the foundational principal of leftism is egalitarianism, and there is no more egalitarian principle on his earth than the concept of "one person, one vote". It is an idea which suggests that people are or should be equal, and any time an idea that regarded runs up against reality, the results will be degenerative. After we've got ourselves back on a path to order and stability, we may be able to salvage some Republican principals- but it will require severely restricted suffrage, at minimum returning voting rights only to property-owning white males over a certain age.
Carson Hill
i want to become a high ranking nazi officer so i can look dapper as fuck
Noah King
no problem , I spread the truth about these issues because there is too little knowledge about economics in our movement
Henry Brown
Of course you're looking out for your people. I'm just reminding you that you're people are a violent, low IQ invader race of parasites who breed and live like livestock and who are not, have never been, and will never be Americans. You are exactly the same as the jews and niggers and if we ever reach the type of collapse you're taking about, you will be treated accordingly.
I fully expect you to attempt to seize our territory, and I fully expect us to respond in the way whites have always responded to the alien tribes who attempt to size our land. Best of luck.
Ethan Richardson
>No one's larping
It's a joke ya dip and you're right, after 1965 and especially after all the pro-illegal laws passed in commiefornia, the demographics have tanked and its reached the point that even after we've deported all the illegals, all the anchor babies and all the visa violators I'm having my doubts it'll make a difference because the niggers are still there and there are more hajis arriving recently, I'll gladly live in this country as a true minority because that is infinitely better than the alternative but I can't just stand by and watch it all fall apart
Either we come together or we balkanize, I'm just ready for either scenario bud
Xavier Torres
Best of luck to you too, despite having to face the reality of such a situation, I still hope that it never has to come to that
Andrew Campbell
fuck nvm, wrong ID
Ian Campbell
It's going to be fun grinding all ya'lls dicks into the dirt when you finally have the guts to try something.
