left wing >"people will just work for greater good fuck self interest that just a social construct" NATSOCs >white people will just work for the greater good right guys just fuck self interest thats just a jewish construct"
left wing >"people should just get free shit right guys" NATSOCs >"people i like should get free shit right guys"
left wing >"fuck voting just riot" NATSOCs >"fuck voting just elect one guy and trust him to manage the lives of millions of people"
left wing >"people i dont like dont deserve free speech NATSOCs >"im with him on this"
at the end of the day authoritarian socialism an national socialism are almost exactly the same both hate freedom both hate the little guy and both are antithetical to human nature its time to leave these failed shit ideologies in the past where they belong
if the world ends up under an authoritarian regime I would chose NatSoc in a over Communism everytime. I would like minimal government though which isnt going to happen easily.
Jonathan Morgan
Libertarians seem to fit that mold a little closer
Henry Robinson
oh fucking obviously i would to (ust look at the kill count on the commie side) but lets be honest anyone who wants to give all their sovereignty away to the goverment is the epitome of cuck
Nolan Rodriguez
...
Adrian Sanchez
No one says ALL people of any demographic will work for the greater good. Just that some demographics are more likely to work for what they perceive the greater good to be.
>"people i like should get free shit right guys" I don't think I've ever heard a natsoc say that.
The rest of it sounds about right.
Jeremiah Roberts
how libertarians dont think people will work for the greater good we dont think people are just naturally willing to work we know some people will end up fucking homeless on the street the important thing is there stupid fucking life choices arent our fault and we shouldn't have to hold them up wether it be communism or national socialism
Jaxon Cook
National Socialists are basically commies who also hate jews and blacks
Gabriel King
i know that hitler never said that whites were more hardworking or whatever but you will notice most cringy "natsocs" (usually just nationalists being edgy) spew that crap mainly
Liam Phillips
wrong, communism is letting a bunch of workers ( the ones who didnt die fighting back ) be in charge of large factories until they fail and the government takes over. NatSoc is still capitalism
Parker Perez
>NatSoc is still capitalism
Aiden Moore
of course it is, regulated to hell because government wrecks everything.
Hudson Russell
>"national socialism is an ideology that constantly rambles about how rich elite jews conrol he earth and we need to have a revolution to overhrow them and seize control of the means of production" >"wait what? no we arent socialists shut up i don like you cuck cuck cuck"
average NATSOC
Jordan Myers
>regulation >capitalism Okay leaf
Josiah Gonzalez
>Living in a healthy society >Not in one's self interest
Adrian Butler
fuck off were full
Jacob James
well i guess you could call i a heavier version of Keynesian but to be honest after a while (even kenes admitted this) if used to heavily eventually morphes into a version of either corpratism or authoritarian socialism anyway
Adrian Cox
>living in a dictatorship >living in military state >living in a socialist shit hole >living my life controlled by the goverment
wow what a fucking utopia right guys? lets all live there
Jaxson Nguyen
>okay leaf >says the leaf
Jacob Hill
could be on holiday (dont see why you would go there though)
Brayden Edwards
This attitude is essentially why it was so easy for Jews to infiltrate all our institutions and subvert them so you get fucking Bill Nye teaching children race-mixing, anal play, and changing your gender.
Yes, self-interest is a part of human nature, but it isn't the only animating force let alone the primary one that should dictate how we structure our political system. If you care more about owning a mcmansion with a big pool in the suburbs than you do about the survival and health of your race, you are spiritual pygmy who deserves to be ruled over by people who are better than you. Unfortunately democracy has proven that most White people fall in to this category when they are not integrated in to a proper aristocratic hierarchy.
Jaxon Hill
mostly i think it was the whole "master race" thing that was all the rage by the nazis and japs
Justin Hernandez
wow you're right it's almost like horseshoe theory is real
All authoritarians are the same, Stalin and Hitler are equally contemptible and both enemies of freedom.
Tyler Jenkins
>"if you want to live in a nice house and have a nice pool and a nice car and take care of your family instead of spending all day doing "the right thing" you just dont deserve rights man"
NATSOCs in one sentence guy >"you deserve to be ruled over by people better than you"
C U C K
Gavin Parker
comes down to i don't support any regulation. it mucks everything up. The only class of people that truely feel a free market is when they are dealing in illegal activities. Drug dealing, selling guns, or even simple things like doing cash deals with people.
Juan Morris
>(dont see why you would go there though) how new are you? leafs need to be raked.
Jaxon Reed
Both are in competition to see who can be the most edgy
No self respecting man would label himself with a political ideology.
Kraft durch Freude was a part of the German Labour Front (Deutsche Arbeitsfront, DAF), the national German labour organization at that time. Set up as a tool to promote the advantages of National Socialism to the people, it soon became the world's largest tourism operator of the 1930s
It was quite successful up until the outbreak of World War II. By 1934, over two million Germans had participated on a KdF trip; by 1939 the reported numbers lay around 25 million people.
25 MILLION PEOPLE ON FREE HOLIDAYS TO Madagascar. In national socialism the workers are sent to state sponsored holidays and in communism they starve choose your side
Henry Diaz
>"people should just get free paid holiday leave and sheit" like all those modern socialists who want the same fucking thing?
Austin Carter
What is your point?
Josiah Turner
The mass of humanity will never be remembered or produce anything of lasting value. They are given purpose by their natural superiors and their fractional contributions to the elevation of the race as a whole.
Jaxon Young
No shit, I've been saying this forever
Stormfags are just the right's equivalent of Antifa, a bunch of psychotic morons
Jaxon Jackson
anything is better than this
Christian Hall
who cares? who gives a shit if nothing of value is produced i dont care about any greater good and no one should only thing people should care about is the good of the individual
Liam Flores
natsoc is sort of like ron paul's platform except with only white people and people voluntarily give to charities more
Lincoln Gomez
>who gives a shit if nothing of value is produced i dont care about any greater good and no one should only thing people should care about is the good of the individual are you retarded?
Sebastian Martin
ITT plebbit
Sebastian Jackson
Are you listening to yourself? Stop reading Jewish economic theorists. Our ancestors have left far better wisdom in their most ancient writings. Don't post on Sup Forums again until you have read Plato's Republic.
Hunter Walker
DUDE WEED LMAO
Of course he is. He doesn't even understand the fundamental concept of his own ideology. Its a plebbitfag 15 year old thinks he's smart episode.
Nathan Rodriguez
>ITT SWJs and kikes want your self-interests gone, so they can implement their interests easier don't fall for it
Liam Rivera
Nat Soc is sort like modern postDeng China but with enviromental friendly laws and a strong cultural filter and norms on what the citizen is allowed to consume along mandatory communal /fit/ courses since youth and a nork-tier adoration of the state.
Jayden Jones
>NATSOCSs are just edgier sjws eat a dick
Jacob Sullivan
you shareblue
Henry Ward
>be you >need to move heavy object >hey neighbor could you help me out >fuck you pay 20 bucks or its not worth the effort What a great place to live. Family values and all.
Dominic Ramirez
commie trash
Sebastian Lee
Are you an American boomer using a proxy? You really don't understand any kind of nuance do you?
Hudson Price
nice strawman faggot.
“Blood is greater than gold, a dirt clod is greater than a stock portfolio, honor is greater than the highest dividend, the folk stands taller than the sum of its business-transactions.” –Dr. Alfred Rosenberg
Jaxson Barnes
>i'm so insecure i'm unable to admit other people may be better than me. >I don't understand the concept of allocating resources.
Angel Flores
Why should a little guy like you have freedum? That is nature, that is justice. Fucken dumb cunt. KYS.
Jonathan Cook
>plebbitor intellectuals
Cooper Lee
Blood and soil are eternal and holy values. For eternal is the bloodline which manifests itself from the past through the present into the most distant future. And eternal too is the soil, hallowed by the blood poured forth in its defense. These highest core-values place a great obligation upon us.
Nolan Barnes
Australia and New zealand are literally the same place
Aussie >stupid comments NZ: >stupid comments
Aussie: >Stupid flag NZ >same flag
it's settled
Wyatt Scott
Today a new mythos is dawning – the Mythos of the Blood; the belief that the godly essence is to be defended through the Blood
Logan Diaz
Why do people see freedom as automatically good? Freedom to take drugs Freedom to mentally degrade Freedom to degeneracy Freedom to lie cheat and kill
Asher White
Liberalism is a cancer
Lucas Young
>reddit
Hudson Lopez
The natsoc larpers are usually newfaggots who found out on cnn that pol is rayciss.
Connor Jackson
> i need a dick up my ass to know what to do Drone mentality is the sign of low iq.
Jace Gomez
>>>reddit
Thomas Rogers
t. newfag. How about you lurk and educate yourself instead of posting like a retard.
Ayden Edwards
The natsocs are who take over after some time actually as seen on 8pol if you have no proper value basis to conflict with them.
Charles Jones
Most White people, given the "freedom" to choose, will vote for the destruction of their race and open gates to hostile mongrels who want to rape and pillage their countries, all in the name of tolerance and equality. Why? Because a certain tribe of people who practice collectivist ethnocentric strategies overthrew our institutions and informed them it was correct to do so.
Zachary Cooper
wow horseshoe theory what an original thought faggot
Oliver Sanchez
They don't overtake, the rest just leaves. 4chans format is what attracts people here, not the content, so i don't see that happening anytime soon. > getting this triggered over the truth By your reasoning, why not give niggers all positions of power to preserve le ebbin white race.
Angel Rogers
this collectivism is cancer
Henry Gutierrez
Natsoc was dirigism, a nice compromise between liberal capitalism and complete state planning.
Christopher Wood
THIS
Landon Ward
please come back when youre 18
Gavin James
Learn the triangle, unfuck your mind of right/left authoritarian/horseshoe/capitalism/communism blah blah.
The triangle clarifies all
Wyatt Young
lurk for 3 years before posting
Joshua Bailey
Thats fine if you don't give a shit but realize this: you then have no right then deciding anything society does. You are a pig ignorant peasant. Stay out, because your thick attitude is disastrous.
Bentley Stewart
this
Tyler Barnes
Come back when your balls drop you fucking degenerate
Isaac Butler
> how do i up-or downboat That's pathetic even for a leaf.
Lucas Jackson
>if you have strong feelings about an issue, then you're exactly the same as people with strong opinions on the opposite side of the same issue >you're such a fuckin hypocrite liek omg lmao
You are literally a sheep, hop to the next island over and get fucked.
Gabriel Flores
>NATSOCs are just edgier sjws Sup Forumsacs always rage at me for my ignorance, but I always felt that the two contrasting approaches to Volksgemeinschaft caused as rift that never really was bridged. When the Worker's Party split, what became Social Justice lost its specific cultural ties, and the new NatSocs lost some of its unspoken community cohesion, rather than firm rules, and genuine appreciation and connection for the agrarian life it still held up as its ideal wellspring of Volkish identity. There was definitely some cross pollination, after the War, but the two philosophies have carried their antagonism in their memes down through the century. It really doesn't work to call either one "more edgy." >left wing They are both extreme "left wing" substituting a highly structured society tied together by constant reenforcement of shared cultural bonds for the old feudal top-down, or the new pseudo-bottom-up democracies. Neither of them actually believes anyone should get free shit, but rather community compels individual action, which rewards the community as a whole. Neither feels any sympathy for those outside the regimented social structure, with its highly specialized take on language, and bonds formed through blood and shared struggle. "Liking" an outside doesn't make them part of the group and both would claim to deeply love "the little guy," not as an individual, but as part of the whole. "Freedom" is merely lack of structure, "Free Speech" is static and disruption of the highly structured society's internal communication, "Personal Freedom" is dereliction of your proper place within the structure. There are shared values, still yes, but the cultural split, and the continued failure of SocJust to crystallize a clear hierarchy maintained the original divide, as was seen in Manhattan in the '50s.
Jaxon Cruz
The difference is that it actually works when the people all share the same past and future. You can't compare the bonds of blood to retarded ideas like transgenderism, multiculturalism, and cuckoldry. The people are what makes a nation thrive or fail. You can't just expect the inferior to be able to succeed using the same rules as the superior and by holding back the superior people from continuing their great works you're holding back all of humanity because those superior people are very generous.
Juan Turner
seriously, lurk more if you think this isnt a natsoc board infected by the likes of you
Joseph Cooper
>stop oppressing people it's wrong and immoral Try to stop me ancuck. Might is right.
Nathaniel Gomez
This
Connor Myers
>tfw you realize ancap is the only logical choice
Cameron Turner
>tfw underage know this feel?
Xavier Sanchez
goober peas
Aaron Thomas
SOON BROTHERS
Gabriel Perez
Yeah, fuck borders and laws and sheeeiiiitt!
Zachary Morgan
>media is owned by a few Jews, who then shape public opinion >enemies of your nation and people use your "free speech" against you Freedom of speech is a meme. You must control it, or be controlled.
Jaxson Rodriguez
> i watch cnn outside of airports unironically, the post
Wyatt Walker
While there was definitely some strong influence on the American Branch of SocJust, movement of thinkers between schools, it isn't fair to blame them for the excesses of the various Communist Regimes. They originally branched from an opposition to Soviet movement to oppose their other half, who gained power in their native land. The only government the American Branch has ever had strong influence over, was the United States, originally via think-tanks and associated Universities. >National Socialists are basically commies who also hate jews and blacks "Commies" brings to mind totally different approaches to Socialism, not as regimented, and neither ideology really views itself as hating anyone, they see themselves as defending their own body against outsiders, expelling elements foreign to the body, and seeking to replace what they see as parasitic social and economic ethnic ruling class with the body's own structure. They don't view it as hate, but rather purification, self-defense and self determination. Freedom from "ZOGs" or "Patriarchy" whatever you call it, the pervasive alien social programming and economic enslavement by a non-native enclave.
Blake Lewis
>You need to be force-fucked to understand you like it. Not everyone is born to lead, or breed for that matter, fag. It's the natural order.
Hunter Reyes
Most governments have taken away your freedom.
Of course you can go to Somalia.
Joseph Jackson
Anarcho-anything is retarded. If it's truly anarchy, then you have no means to enforce your ideology.
Parker Lewis
Wrong. Anarchists on Reddit tell me anarcists will compromise and agree on certain rules.
Nathaniel Clark
Communism aims to break down a societies past in order to build a new human for the purpose of revolution. Nation Socialism aims to preserve the past, believing that it is fundamental to a functioning society, it is an inherently conservative ideology.
Leo Wood
I take it you're not one of these 'born to lead" types, otherwise you wouldn't be this fatalistic about it.
Jaxson Baker
The stormfag retards claiming Sup Forums is a NatSoc board are just as bad as the T_D Redditors. For Christ's sake, this isn't Stormfront or the_Donald, this is fucking Sup Forums. You can't claim this place as your own personal echo chamber.
Dominic Fisher
What is democracy and how does it work
Blake Hughes
"As the ant without its nest dies..."
Either philosophy would ask if you honestly would prefer living in complete unstructured anarchy, a sort of Hobbesian Natural Law, or as slaves, or else as a part of a whole, serving the whole and being supported by it. You can't really compare a collective bargaining Unionist, who seeks to unite workers together to gain greater individual liberties within a much larger system, with the kind of socialist who seeks to replace the entire system. They are antagonistic philosophies focusing on different issues. SocJust and NatSoc are both the later, seeking to eliminate the Capitalist Class and unify the entire Nation, not each factory or trade separately. Yes, yes. We all learned the Horseshoe in our public education. But in what way do see these two ideologies as being "opposite" in their methods. How is either in anyway "the right?" Are you saying they are Feudalists who oppose Feudalism? What is "the Right" to you? I don't believe any of you have thought to define the term you keep using.