What does Sup Forums think of Otto von Bismarck

Bismarck once famously said, "Politics is the art of the possible." What he meant by that is that if you're bogged down with ideology, you're making yourself irrelevant. Since Bismarck is a precursor to Hitler, I'm curious if any 14/88 types have anything to say about this, because my criticism of the 14/88 crowd is that they've lost sight of this quote by Bismarck. The further down the antisemitic rabbit hole you go, the less relevant you become. You lose traction with reality. Reality is Donald Trump, and Donald Trump said, "I like guys who weren't captured." Hitler was a loser. I can almost hear Trump saying, "I like guys who didn't lose."

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countrystudies.us/germany/112.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Saudi_Arabia
westcoastrxers.com/2016/10/22/lockes-adversary-the-patriarchal-kingdom-of-sir-robert-filmer/
reactionaryfuture.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/locke-versus-filmer-or-why-you-are-all-communists/
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Bismarck was a fucking monarchist who enjoyed to lick the dick of the German Kaiser

>monarchist

So literally /our guy/

t. le amerigan bear

>Jews still exist
>usury still exists
>ovens are still readily available
Plenty of possibility here, user.

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He's perhaps the most overrated person that ever lived, only admired by edgelords and hipsters.

>t. liberal

why do you think that monarchy is bad?

I wish he was make all poles german speaking persons, it will be an civic upgrade for us

>that pic having anything to do with Bismarck
>burger education

He was my role model as a teenager, I wish we had a figure like him in our history.

the personification of Realpolitik

if I had to chose an eternal Reichskanzler, this guy is it

he would have prevented WWI as well

He wouldn't have became famous if he were born as an Anglo. Krauts are too fucking autistic for diplomacy and long-term thinking, Bismarck was a huge exception.

Clever, patriotic. Strong. Supreme troll, supreme shitposter and an absolute madman.
Spinning in his grave now.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ems_Dispatch

>being a retard

That's Paul von Hindenburg, dum dum.

Bismarck died in 1898.

That's hindenburg you stupid nigger

>still being retards

That's Hindenburg...

>y-you should stop being antisemites
>Trump is reality while Hitler is a loser
>l-less 14/88 and more 6.000.000
piss off

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>Hitler was a loser
it's easy to say that while sitting in your mom's basement, doing nothing but criticize
he tried to defeat the jew, sadly he failed, nobody wins against the jews no matter how hard you're trying, and what you achieved in your lifetime? nothing
fucking cuck

Say my name xdd

That's not Bismarck

Stupid moron desu the time was right for unification sure but he should put the austrians into our empire too
Austrians had an empire too but a double monarchy would be better for both of us and hungary could form an empire on its own....
We could have a super german empire but no this faggot killed this all...

If the modern Germany taught you your history you would understand the Kaiser forced Bismarck out of the government making your country the shithole it is.

Bismarck should have deposed of the monarchy but his duty held him from doing the truly best thing for his country, removing all power from the monarch.

If you like monarchy this much, why don't you emigrate to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia? mhhhmmm....

Best German to ever exist on this Earth ,national hero and Father of the Fatherland

I his infinite wisdom, recognized that Russia is not an enemy but an strategic Ally

Take note merilards

If you don't understand what I was trying to convey by posting it then you're too stupid to understand even if I explained it.

Leave Sup Forums.

You don't belong here

The French revolution was the beginning of the decline

He was very smart for sure. He tricked France into a war we couldn't win using nationalism and was the cause to the fall of Napoleon III.

im not a muslim and I probably wouldn't be welcomed there.

tho saudi arabia out of all the places is doing pretty for the arab world, isn't it?

That's a big guy

Reminder what this phrase sounds like
gott schütze den kaiser

yea, we had actually more similarities with Russia than the degenerate western democracies like France and UK

we should have kept Russia as an ally but sadly there were too much problems between Russia and Austria-Hungary

Bismarck fought the democratic forces and spewed on the parliament. The war with France was totally unnecessary

holy shit you're retarded

yea, nearly 2 m

Bismarck was also quite big though

read a book nigger.

stop pretending that you know about Bismarck, just by inhaling documentaries from the public broadcasting

That would be a horrible thing.

The whole legitimacy of the Empire was the monarchy. Surely states like Bavaria would declare independence again if he declared a Republix

He deserves bullet.
But I would also enjoy watching him as he is (re)discovering today's Germany

If you like democracy so much, then you deserve the country in that you live today.

Not gonna lie, I rarely if ever think about Otto Von Bismarck.

>tho saudi arabia out of all the places is doing pretty for the arab world, isn't it?

well it all depends on the oil price, that's why they're kissing Donald's behind right now, to stop him from flooding the world market with cheap American oil

you mean the documentaries that portrait him as "literally Hitler" ?.

This guy was the best that could happen to this godforsaken country, if you could stop jerking yourself off over your contrarian edginess for one moment with your revisionist knowledge that'd be great

the capital of mighty North Dakota is named after him, how can you not think about him ?

That's the guy that crashed the giant balloon.

yeah mate its just the oil.

now lets compare it to another 3rd world oil country but democratic. hmm venezula maybe.. oh wait its absolutely unlivable there.

take a walk, you are lowering the avg IQ just by visiting this board

Fuck me! That is the stupidest thing I read all day.

well, then show us your wisdom instead of insulting other people

he's quoted in art of the deal as saying siding with the winner is always better than the loser

He should've crushed Austria-Hungary though.
Made Austria a state of the German Empire or kicked the habsburgs from it and annexing the whole country as a Prussian province

nice ad hominem faggot, maybe give next time arguments, instead of posting american spurdo and calling people retards

both a failure and a great leader
he was great because he united the german kingdoms into the german reich.
and a failure becuase he was one of the first leaders to institute socialist programs.

ssa.gov/history/ottob.html
countrystudies.us/germany/112.htm

> yeah mate its just the oil.

yes mate, it's just the oil:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Saudi_Arabia

> petroleum and petroleum products 90%[7]

back to school, stasiek

>What he meant by that is that if you're bogged down with ideology, you're making yourself irrelevant
>Hitler was/is irrelevant
how does it feel being a retard?

THIS THIS THIS
Everything would be better if he had do it

the problem with Austrians is, that they are as proud as Bavarian's and as twice as ugly.

they would've been most likely just a thorn in Bismarck's political goals

Does anyone know any good book about him ?

Dual monarchy dipshit.... if they did it with hungary and accepted it they would love to do it with the german brothers

1. Austria-Hungary didn't exist until the German unification
2. Prussia couldn't have "crushed" the Austrian Empire. The war between them was quick, the Prussian army was better and Austria had some rebelling Italians to care about so they sued for peace. If the war would have lasted for longer, Austria could have gained advantage due to higher population and European powers wishing to preserve the status quo.

He was good friends with Bismarck. Bismarck sailed his boat and Hindenburg went balooning over the water and they waved at each other.

They did it with Hungary after it became apparent that they need our cooperarion to keep their Empire.

I think Wilhelm II showed why monarchism is bad.

Redpilled enough.

His uniform was probably the best in the history of leaders.
Elegant,commanding,high class,high quality.

You dumbass. Fascists did not like bismarck or the monarchy

I think Vietnam showed why democratic systems are even worse.

He talks about it in Mein Kampf

Literally the only relevant german Politician without Autism

Hence the best german politician of all time

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Fascism was implemented in a monarchy and the king had the right to remove the dictator from power.

what do modern Hungarians think about the Austro-Hungarian Empire?

fuck off retard. liberalism is a cancer

Bismarck was the last good german politician.

Do you have a link to an ebook download? I haven't been able to find a copy

>1. Austria-Hungary didn't exist until the German unification
Technically, Austria-Hungary predate the German unification (1871).

>. If the war would have lasted for longer, Austria could have gained advantage due to higher population and European powers wishing to preserve the status quo.
The Austrian empire was barely surviving.
The prussians could've used the nationalist sentiment of austrians and hungarians to gain support from within the Empire.

The austrian problem was mostly because they were catholics

The consensus is that economically it was the best thing for us since we stopped raiding the rest of Europe but we got out the worst from it because of our privileged position and having too many nationalities on our historical clay.

literally this. drop any remotely competent restoration english politician into 1800s germany and he'd have a secretive cabal running the place in months. the fact that it took nearly a hundred years after the hanovers got their asses on the english throne for realpolitik (the only kind of politics in civil war/restoration/walpole-era england) to cross the channel is all the proof that's needed that germanics are literal barbarians. speaking of which, contemplating walpole vs bismark sheds yet more light on how incompetent germanics are.

It's true, but you can't also keep compromising, or else you end up with some civies that are barely better than socdems.

>monarchy
>not the best political system

Just search on google; "pdf patriarcha robert filmer".

you will find online version in pdf.

but I recommend these articles on patriarcha:

westcoastrxers.com/2016/10/22/lockes-adversary-the-patriarchal-kingdom-of-sir-robert-filmer/

reactionaryfuture.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/locke-versus-filmer-or-why-you-are-all-communists/

liberalism is incredible naive and based on notions as the blank slate, natural human rights, equality, the rootless, anonymous individual,....

You are correct about the first one, but it took a defeat from Prussia to make a compromise with the Hungarians.
But the Empire wasn't really barely survining back then, nationalist sentiments were suppressed since 1849 and playing with those could have backfired on the Prussians as well because of the Poles. Not to mention dragging Russia into the whole conflict. Or other powers could have interfered as well it the war lasted for longer to preserve the status quo. A quick peace was the best for the Prussians and it wasn't too much of a loss for the Habsburgs as they could still try to focus on the Italian territories (then lose them).

Should have listened to him and not annexed Alsace-Lorraine. Or at least kept Russia on their side

>germanics are literal barbarians
No, they are just too autistic for big politics. Except the English and the Austrians, the only Germanic people who were able to keep a real Empire together for more than 50 years.

It started all of our problems

lmao this is satire right

Should have just rebelled less m8, then you maybe could have played the imprisoned nation card too like everyone else did when everything fell apart

He couldnt make a stand against the masses and socialism and ended up giving gibsmedat to the germans, marking the rise of the Welfare State.
Probably incompetent

>Hungarian
>not rebelling
Only happens when we are fighting amongst each other (jk, we do that even during rebellions) or when we can feel superior to the majority of our neighbours.

hopefuly will burn in hell forever