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What can we do to save/revive german militarism

how can we stop this cucking of the german armed forces
they are underfunded already no need for mental cucking

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Why would you stop it?
Our enemies are within not without. Focusing on mundane shit like that until we have our nation sorted out only takes away momentum

Join the armed forces

Revive conscription

>join the armed forces
>die for Israel
Great advice Ezra

Stage a coup

Maybe stop crying when some military barack has a nazi wehrmacht helm on display.

Europe is crazy. The armed forces are underfunded, disrespected and treated as somewhat suspect by both the government and the people.

The EU army is going to be hilarious. They're going to have a 37 man (which means 37 woman) supreme council that will have to arrive at every little decision by unanimous consensus. It's just going to be another sinkhole for pet projects and bureaucratic waste. Just about its only real job will be to intervene in """"""spontaneous"""""" """"""""revolutions"""""""".

at this point our military industry is there for sending tanks to the arabs

welt.de/politik/deutschland/article164652401/Der-Koran-erlaubt-die-Homo-Ehe.html
you puke you loose

Conscription and more soldiers = more soldiers in Uniforms in public

more uniforms = habutation

habituation = acceptance

that´s what´s necessary

>Vietnam war started the biggest anti war movement in history that still lasts
>Iraq war brought acceptance of military forces to all time low
Really made me think. Why not say you just want to larp as a le prussian man?
Just go to basic training keep in shape and be an upstanding member of society. Forcing shit is counterproductive both in this cause and for an overall general backlash and you know it. It's just easier for you to complain than to actually do things

funfact
rommel means trash in my language
that being said rommel is the best girl.

It's really the only way out where you're at. Kick Merkel out and make way for some conscription fever to sweep the nation. Make it economical and tax incentivized to have children. Hold out a generation at least for population increase and kick out the undesirables. Thing is, you're gonna need lebensraum. I hope the internationalists don't get you. Good Luck

> bloody wars with lots of death and numerous maimed homecoming veterans result in anti-war movements

no shit sherlock, the thing is, that unlike the US military forces, the Bundeswehr is hardly involved in military operations nowadays. let´s take a look at some current Operations.

Syria: the Bundeswehr provides recoinassance and a flying gas station
Mediterranean: the Bundeswehr provides a patrol boat
Afghanistan: the Bundeswehr trains local police and military forces to do their job
Africa: the Bundeswehr is keeping the locals from brutally butcher each other

Now if you compare these peace keeping operations with US operations, you´ll find that the german variant results in far less bomb craters, far less killed civvies and far less injured troopers. Furthermore the prime objective of the Bundeswehr is to protect germany (idk why politicians see the need to protect germany in the ME, perhaps there will be expansions soon), we see it for example in the cooperations with eastern european armies to keep a russian insurgency in check, or during floodings in germany, or during the migrant crisis, where the Bundeswehr helped tremendously.

The thing now is, just like it is with police and firefighters, that if you dont pay respect to the service members or dont accept them at all, fewer and fewer people will join them, and this trend will lead to an understaffing of said services. and an understaffed service can hardly do it´s job. The Bundeswehr has a problem, the Police has this problem, and even firefighters begin to have these problems.

And desu i´d rather have some ppl complaining than services, that cant provided civil protection

Bring back stiff collars and Pickelhauben

No you don't. Military has an attraction on it's own. Firefighters don't.
Take a look at yourself. You never went to the army yet you respect it. Might have been different if you were conscribed at 18 (if you already are) I know it was for me.

>And desu i´d rather have some ppl complaining than services, that cant provided civil protection
As I said. Pure larping. We're NATO members. Noone attacks us. Your enemies are within and your measures are counterproductive to fixing them.
If you actually wanted to fix this issue and not just complain to feel above it join. What's stoping you you fat beta?
>b-but what does it help if just one person does it
What does it help to play pretend tough guy on Sup Forums yet you do it? Be an example for others. The Bund has pr campaigns on it's own. If you would join instead of larp you can partake in them.

>the Bundeswehr is hardly involved in military operations nowadays

kek
a mainstream loving retard

>Syria: the Bundeswehr provides recoinassance
recon for terrorists (ISIS + imperium), so that they can slaughter civilians. Great job.

>Afghanistan: the Bundeswehr trains local police and military forces to do their job
you forgot burning civilians alive for stealing a bit of gasoline.

>Africa: the Bundeswehr is keeping the locals from brutally butcher each other
you can't be this retarded.

>these peace keeping operations
fucking retard, kys

you´re degrading yourself with this incoherent argumentation, I advise you to stay with the actual arguments you´ve made before, and not continue this aggressive ad hominem tactic

Yes, we´re NATO-members, and atm no one is attacking us, that point is right. Now I ask you, why do you think no one is attacking us ?

Another thing: Firefighters , too have a fascination on it´s own, you can protect your loved ones and friends from harm, be it fire, accidents or natural disaster. Tbh i find that firefighters have more attraction to them than the army. Compared to firefighting, military service tends to be boring (unless you get to shot something etc.). Firefighters train often, they do fun activities, like go swimming or having a bbq. Furthermore, they can go to work and earn money like everyone else, and when they´re needed, they can be called to their respective stations. Yet new blood is desperately needed in quite some regions.

Perhaps i respect the firefighters more, because i see them more often, not only when they rush to the place where something has happened, i see them on their way to training, i see them on patrol, i see them in public spaces, i see them on festivals. Not only do i see them more often, i get to see them in action, when they fight a fire, when they help in road accidents, when they rescue the neighbors kitty from a tree. I can imagine, that the same would occur if we´d get to see more of the Army. Like when a massive storm hit big parts of Germany in the last two years, the Army was deployed. With their tanks and other equipment, they helped to remove the damage from the storm. The people were thankful for their help, just like they are thankful for the Help of the firefighters, the THW, medical services and police.

and lastly, what´s your fascination with larping ? You mention it all the time.

and your argument is ?

I´m certainly sorry, i dont understand what you´re trying to say, could you elaborate ?

There are not enough uncucked Germans left. just come here instead.

>Get the fucking woman, which was fucking minister of family affairs before, which has never fucking held a weapon to shoot it even in basic training, out of the fucking landlord position over the army.
>Don't shit on people for Wehrmacht-memorabilia for PC reasons. It was an army, no matter what someone thinks le ebin nazis mightve done.
>Stop fighting wars for hand rubbing people
>???
>profit

Rommel tried to topple the Nazis, come on Franz.

who do you plan to fight?

There are plenty tbqh. Problem is that you'll be ostracized the nanosecond you'll express your disdain.

I mean see this: Lately there was a report on right-wing extremists in eastern Germany, released by an officially government-affiliated research institute, ordered by the official eastern Germany caring whatever pseudo minister which "comes from eastern Germany, too".
They researched 3 (!!!!!!!!) very small to intermediately big cities. And projected the results unto the whole of fucking eastern Germany.

Now, people are indoctrinated as hell with radical liberal and anti-German ideology since school. And there you go:

People that avoid to be called """Nazi""" are called """Nazi""" nontheless for living somewhere.

Now think of what'd happen if they'd start to go off like "oh yeah le minorities an shiet". They'd fucking explode.

'Member we're the only country on earth where it's people are taught massive self-hate throughout the whole school-career and even later, because it's like 24/7 in the media.

Literally no day without getting told how bad we are and that even today's infants are to blame for le ebin Hitler.

fuck me

von Manstein > Rommel

This. Germany is lost, come to America. We would love to have you. We have the first and second amendment, this will be our last stand.

Well said. You need to work on your Reddit spacing however.

what a stupid meme. usa is so far gone

you, gib sudentenland!

Whatever you're referring to. Thanks anyway

you should've been genocided post ww2, scourge of europe

Why do you accept this nazification that demoralizes snd dehumanizes you as so called innocent murderers?
What evidence do they have of mass murders carried out by the german state or german people?

all Germans following that dead ideology are the cucks.

Nazis=conflict=means Germany in shambles=america gaining more power=means Germany weak=Europe even weaker=means all of Europe colony to united staates of niggers

All nazi flowers and Sympathisants belong shoot or gassed like commies the commies in the good old times.

Landesverräter alles samt. Gehören samt Bällger hingerichtet.

Reddit spacing is the mark of the beast. It's hard to forget the conditioning by reddit, but the damage can be undone!
Don't leave empty lines after every sentence, not necessary here.

Im not Germsn but Fermany is honorable good nation that should be great and free.

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More reddit spacing. Fight the conditioning or the jews will win!

Oh I see. Yeah, no I'm not from that shithole. But I write reports with spacing and I'm used to it. Gotta throw it over then for the sake of posting on this board and not getting mistaken with normie scum

>Nazis=conflict=means Germany in shambles=america gaining more power=means Germany weak=Europe even weaker=means all of Europe colony to united staates of niggers

thats true but the EU is already a colony of the usa, and leaving will just result in the situation above, so looks like germany is fucked

It started post WWII and never ended.
Already I have been born into that shit and I'm over 30. It's just inescapable at the moment.
But I guess the backlash WILL come at some point, because we're devolving into some radical liberal police state where everything that's dissent is considered """hate speech""" and people are slowly but surely fed up with that shit.

....at least I hope so

You realise relatively few people are shipped overseas because it's expensive and modern wars don't need a lot of people?

Approx 3000 troops are deployed out of the total of some 180k people. And even in Afghanistan casualties are very low.

What the service gives you is a useful skillset, discipline and most importantly network of like-minded people. It's also less ((diverse)) than any other german institution because it requires one to work.

Every German who cares about his country should strongly consider joining the Heer because it will give them much more leverage than sharing ironic "red pilled" memes on facebook.

i bet you cry ever time some one btfo´s you in conversation that he is antisemite.


oy vey a logical and 100% true argument, thats only possible on reddit you dont find this on Sup Forums.

on the contrary since the 90 we arent. To bad for you and each day with trump ameriniggers get closer to be send home.

also
Guderian > Rommel

problem with von Manstein was that he was too rigid in his Prussian obediance

and Guderian on the other hand had no problem with braking orders when they were stupid, and got outpoliticisized by von Kluge

well ill believe that when the EU stops enforcing blatantly american geopolitical goals. I like the optimism but i just dont see a way out senpai

i chose Rommel because there is a Rommel barrack that will be renamed

wont happen because eu is in nato

fuck me

wat?
wry?

he was part of the 20 July plot
he was forced to commit suicide
if anything he was a hero for anti nazis

what are they gonna rename it to?
Marx and Engels?

fuck them all, with a spade

exactly he is relatable for all sides and a hero
which is why i took him as an example

Germany was unified by the demonstration of force against Austria and France. Force was a core tenant of your being.

Now you're autistic economic units browbeat with racial guilt. The only force you'll ever use is to preserve liberalism.

Consider this:about the same amount of time has passed since ww2 than from German unification to ww2. That's scary.

America has more chance of going to fascism than you.

War crimes of the Wehrmacht were those carried out by the German armed forces during World War II. While the SS (in particular the SS-Totenkopfverbände, Einsatzgruppen and Waffen-SS) of Nazi Germany was the organization most responsible for the genocidal killing of the Holocaust, the regular armed forces represented by the Wehrmacht committed war crimes of their own, particularly on the Eastern Front in the war against the Soviet Union.

The Nuremberg Trials at the end of World War II initially considered whether the Wehrmacht high command structure should be tried. However, the OKW was judged not to be a criminal organization under the legal grounds that because of very poor co-ordination between the German Army, Navy and Air Force high commands, which operated as more or less separate entities during the war, the OKW did not constitute an "organization" as defined by Article 9 of the constitution of the International Military Tribunal (IMT) which conducted the Nuremberg trials.[3]

Had it not been for these legalistic reasons, the OKW would have been judged a "criminal organization" by the IMT. This has often been misconstrued, not the least by German World War Two veterans that the IMT ruled that the OKW was not a "criminal organization" because the Wehrmacht committed no war crimes.[3]

In their memoirs, German Army generals claimed that the war had been a "clean war" on their part with the Army fighting because of the noble Prussian-German traditions, patriotism and a deep sense of honour and duty and that National Socialism had virtually no influence on the Army.[127] In this version, almost all German war crimes were the work of the SS and any "excesses" committed by the Army were only the product of a long and bitter war and were no different from Allied war crimes.[127] Very typical were the claims of one Infantry commander, who stated in his memoirs that all of the battles fought by his men were "always fairly conducted, though tough and bitter."[128] Such claims were widely believed not only in Germany but abroad, with the British military historian Captain Basil Liddell Hart writing that "the German Army in the field on the whole observed the rules of war better than in 1914–18".[129]

On 11 December 1979, the West German television show Report aired a documentary entitled "Crimes of the Wehrmacht in World War Two".[123] The public's reaction was almost overwhelmingly negative, with World War II veterans leading a campaign to have the producer of Report fired for the "defamation" of German soldiers. This despite the fact – as the German historian Jürgen Förster was to write in 1989 – that the producers of the documentary had gone out of their way to be fair and unbiased.[123]
In 1986, the German historian Hans Mommsen wrote about the role of the Wehrmacht under National Socialism:

The leadership of the Wehrmacht rather willingly made themselves into accomplices in the policy of extermination. It did this by generating the "criminal orders" and implementing them. By no means did they merely passively support the implementation of their concept, although there was a certain reluctance for reasons of military discipline and a few isolated protests. To construct a "casual nexus" over all this amounts in fact to steering away from the decisive responsibility of the military leadership and the bureaucratic elites.[130]

British historian Ian Kershaw wrote that the genocide and extreme brutality used by the Nazis was their way of ensuring the Lebensraum ("living space") for the people who met the strict requirements of being part of Hitler's Aryan Herrenvolk ("Aryan master race") and the elimination of the Slavic people:

The Nazi revolution was broader than just the Holocaust. Its second goal was to eliminate Slavs from central and eastern Europe and to create a Lebensraum for Aryans. ... As Bartov (The Eastern Front; Hitler's Army) shows, it barbarised the German armies on the eastern front. Most of their three million men, from generals to ordinary soldiers, helped exterminate captured Slav soldiers and civilians. This was sometimes cold and deliberate murder of individuals (as with Jews), sometimes generalised brutality and neglect. ... German soldiers' letters and memoirs reveal their terrible reasoning: Slavs were 'the Asiatic-Bolshevik' horde, an inferior but threatening race. Only a minority of officers and men were Nazi members.[131]

In 1989, the British historian Richard J. Evans wrote that right from the beginning of the war against the Soviet Union, the Wehrmacht fought a genocidal war of "extreme brutality and barbarism".[132] Evans noted that the Wehrmacht officers regarded the Russians as "sub-human", were from the time of the invasion of Poland in 1939 telling their troops that war was caused by "Jewish vermin", and explained to the troops that the war against the Soviet Union was a war to wipe out what were variously called "Jewish Bolshevik subhumans", the "Mongol hordes", the "Asiatic flood" and the "red beast".[133]

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"I keep stumbling upon people who uphold the myth of the "Clean Wehrmacht" or believe in a fully evil Wehrmacht, and everything in between, which makes me wonder... Just how much of the Wehrmacht was dirty?

I found this:
Particularly grim reading are the responses to the 19 August 1946 "German attitude scale" survey: 37 % agreed that "the extermination of the Jews and Poles and other non-Aryan races was necessary for the security of Germany", 33% that "Jews should not have the same rights as those belonging to the Aryan race"

If that is to be believed, cca 40% of the German population wanted to kill the "Untermensch", cca 30% didn't want to kill them, but thought they were inferior regardless, so the rest aprox 30% were probably "moderates".

Are these percentages accurate? If they apply to the German population, can they be applied to the Wehrmacht in particular as well? What is the accepted historical standpoint about all of it today?"

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Ok, answering this is probably less straight forward than you'd like and requires to differentiate the question in several levels.

First off, it is important to take a look at the Wehrmacht as an institution of the Nazi state. As such, the Wehrmacht as an institution superseded the "normal" function of an army within your average nation state (this is a bit simplified as neither a normal function or average nation state exists strictly speaking but I mean stuff like defense or fighting a war) and crossed the territory into becoming an institution heavily involved and complicit in the crimes of the Nazi state.
To exemplify (the list I am providing is far from extensive):

>The criminal conduct in the Soviet Union and against Soviet POWs

The probably most famous examples of Wehrmacht crimes are probably the Commissars Order and the Kriegsgerichtsbarkeitserlass. When preparing for the invasion of the Soviet Union, the Wehrmacht leadership in conjecture with the Nazi leadership issued orders that the war in the Soviet Union was not to be treated as a "normal" war but a war of "Weltanschauung", meaning they were not just fighting another country but rather Jewish-Bolshevism itself. To that end, the OKW gave the order that political commissars within the Red Army were not to be treated as POWs but were to be shot immediately after capture. Political Comissar included however not only people who held this position but also any member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union as well as all Jews. In conjecture with this order, the Kriegsgerichtsbarkeitserlass decreed that no member of the Wehrmacht could be persecuted for any and all war crimes they committed while in the Soviet Union. So [edited], pillaging, murder and burning down villages were all fair game for all members of the Wehrmacht. The Commissar Order alone lead to something between 60.000 and 140.000 victims.

Additionally, the Wehrmacht as an institution was responsible for Soviet POWs in general. In that function it was the Wehrmacht which basically let them starve to death in violation of all international treaties and conventions. Basically, the Wehrmacht built POW camps for Soviets by just putting up a fence and putting the POWs in there, letting them starve as a policy before the leadership of Nazi Germany needed them for forced labor in 1942. But even with that the death toll is staggering. Christian Streit estimates that about 3.3 million Soviet POWs or 57% of all Soviet POWs captured by the Wehrmacht died while in captivity.

>The Wehrmacht as an occupational and security force
The Wehrmacht was an important part of the occupation of conquered territory and as a security force in that occupied territory. As such, it committed murder and war crimes. Taking Serbia as a territory that was directly administered by the Wehrmacht, Wehrmacht units shot 20.000 civilians alone in the time frame from September to December 1941 as part of a campaign of retaliation for Partisan attacks. The Wehrmacht commander of said territory, Franz Böhme, instituted a policy of 100 civilians shot for every dead German soldier and 50 for every injured German soldier. The vast majority of victims were not related to the attacks or the Partisans but rather male Jews or Roma and Sinti thus making Serbia the first territory outside of the Soviet Union in which Jews were systematically killed by the German occupation.

Crimes such as these are numerous and extend even into the Western territories of Europe. For example, the Wehrmacht massacre of the Italian village of Marzabotto in October 1944.

Also, as an occupational force, the Wehrmacht was responsible for administering Nazi racial policy in its territories as can be read in detail in Dieter Pohl's book on the Wehrmacht in the Soviet Union.

>The Wehrmacht and the Holocaust
As mentioned above, the Wehrmacht as an institution was involved in the Holocaust in Serbia, where it was Wehrmacht untis who killed the male Jewish population or when it came to Soviet Jewish POWs. But the Wehrmacht also collaborated closely with the Einsatzgruppen in the Soviet Union basically either transferring Jews into the hands of these mobile killing units or even lending a hand when it came to shooting Jews. Additionally, Wehrmacht units in Poland and the Soviet Union also were involved in killing the mentally handicapped and disabled.

Furthermore, the Wehrmacht established Ghettos and provided transport for Jews to be deported to Auschwitz, e.g. in France and aided in registering and confining Jews to certain quarters in countries such as France and Belgium.

This is important because when it comes to your question, it is imperative to know that the Wehrmacht as an institution itself, regardless of what some individual members did or though, was complicit in Nazi crimes and committed crimes itself.

As for the question of the involvement of individual members: The Wehrmacht had about 18,2 Million active members from 1935 to 1945 and it is impossible to estimate just how many were involved in war crimes. It can be said that the entire leadership of it was complicite through making policy but when we get to the lower ranks, it is impossible to determine, especially in light of the question what exactly constitutes complicity.

Rommel admired hitler. So you could say, yes Rommel literally did nothing wrong.

The Wehrmacht was an institution in which most members did not serve completely voluntary. Rather they were drafted and of course within the army itself there was a considerable degree of social pressure to do as your fellow soldiers did. It is a fair estimate that the vast majority of Wehrmacht members, especially those who at one point served in the Soviet Union and the Balkans were aware that crimes were being committed. It is also a fair estimate that a considerable number of those who at one point served in the Soviet Union or the Balkans (especially the later) were involved in some form of crime, i.e. were present during its committal, pulled the trigger, guarded victims etc. However, in a strictly legal sense not all of these were complicit in these crimes. In a historical sense, one can say that they were though and also in a certain moral sense.

That doesn't mean that every member of the Wehrmacht, especially those serving as rank and file soldiers were "evil" but it does mean that they were - with different degrees of voluntariness - members of an organization that was fully complicit in crimes as well as murderous on its own.

As a little aside towards the end: In his study of Police Battalion 101, a Police unit serving in Poland made up of older members of the Hamburg police, Christopher Browning found that when it came to participation on executions of Jews, about 20% did so willingly and with conviction, 20% refused to participate and 60% did so because of being subjected to social pressure of some sort. While this is only one unit and one set of people, given that their social make-up was similar to many a unit in the Wehrmacht, it could be said that this is the closest we can come to an estimate of participation in crimes in individual Wehrmacht units.

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I am not saying the Wehrmacht is clean or pure
the thing is many Germans conviced of NatSoc or not fought and died and vanished and now we spit on the grave of this lost Generation
it reminds me of the drama draußen vor der Tür where a soldier returns from the war but there is no place for him anymore

>fought and died and vanished
For a genocidal fascist regime.

Thank god we have Wikipedia, right ?

There is nothing wrong with that.

No doubt but I still find collective guilt a dubious concept.
Germans were in a shitty position and made a shitty choice. When things got rolling it was hard to resist. It was a totalitarian system and a dirty war.
However yeah, "muh noble generals" is mostly a meme. Many of them cooperated with Nazi regime in atrocities willingly and with clear intent.

That's okay, but on this board Hitlerboos outright deny Nazis had these plans, and pretend it was morally righteous crusade against Bolsheviks.
In part maybe, but it was also a genocidal campaign.
In hindsight that sealed their defeat. When your choice is communism or death/slavery, communism works I guess.

(((wikipeda)))
(((reddit)))

gas yourself leaf

Its dead bro

now its only gays, trannys, turks, subhumans led by a mentally ill woman.

ggwp no re

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Soldier mooning the camera isn't exactly new but wtf is going on here?

>all these anonymongs on my blog

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what am I looking at here??

You have a military. It's called the EU army.

the current state of the German Bundeswehr.
webms are from recent recruitment "propaganda".

Didn't they have a Jagdgeschwader named after Hartmann ,that triggered the Russians , and they had to rename it something else?

I know the history so listen this.

Germans used to such pussies. During 30 year war we finns slaughter them more than wild deers. They were kebab i say. More than 50% of german speaking folks was killed.

Then game Napoleon. He was just a great man. He was brave soldier. But french were pussies too. So he trained germans to be good soldiers. And after that germans rise, learn volksgeist under Hegel and unite under Bismarck.

After Bismarck there were no longer good generals. Schlieffen Plan failed because of socialists didn't understand the nature of war and Germany lose ww1. Hitler was no good general. He was socialist didn't understand nature of the war and Germany lose ww2.

You have no good generals. You don't understand the nature of the war. You should hire a good finish general to run your business. Otherwise you fuckup totally. That's lesson of history. Believe me.

I've read articles where they're having a natsoc problem. Alot of German soldiers have Nazi relics

cuck bag

Future Schreibtischlandser going through basic training.

actually they are from the navy and this guy here is now a cleaning technician on a ship.

>cleaning technician
Er ist die Putze?

>EU army
it's going to be so shitty it will make the Austro-Hungarian army look like gods of war by comparison

yes
watch
youtube.com/watch?v=UCKA3JPAHQs

til 0:17 , then you can turn off everything afterwards is just propaganda to make the Cleaning Technician job look like its not about cleaning only (it is).

this is sad

more sad than this?

also why the fuck do they have training mats? it's on grass too, lmao

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