I have always seen the threads talking about staying away from plastic bottles and milk and whatever else have you. But I never paid any mind to them until I started looking up stuff related to hair loss and how it starts. In men, hair loss is the byproduct of excess estrogen in the body. Consuming xenoestrogens or estrogen cause DHT levels to rise which act as a more potent form of testosterone. But hair needs a balance of testosterone and estrogen not DHT and estrogen.
estrogen and xenostrogens can be found in more food than many think. Soy plays a huge role in this, soy mimics estrogen in the body, which also contributes to DHT. Heres a link listing foods that contain soy: meghantelpner.com/blog/soy- masquerading-as-a-whole-lot-of-other-stuff/ soy can also be found in canned tuna, whole grain bread, protein supplements and so many more.
What lead me to believe the adding of estrogen or xenostrogens to our water and food is a recent thing is the old people, be they in pictures or in person. My grandpa is reaching 70 years old soon and weighs upwards of 250 pounds, he a big guy. But shows no signs of Gynecomastia. Even if you look up fattest guy from the 1900s on google you wont see anywhere near the extent of gyno on a teen or young adult that is just mildly overweight, but that is just whats noticeable. You can go to /fit/ right now and there will probably be at least 2 threads up about fit guys who have puffy nips from gyno. It is becoming a more frequent occurence. Playing into the Sup Forums narrative of jews trying to damn the white man to bring an age of coloreds, estrogen and xenostrogens in majority of what we eat can lead to men becoming more effeminate, lower sex drive, less motivation to reach your goals, hair loss, erectile dysfunction, and many more side effects which in todays time would be considered poor genetics and unattractive to the opposite sex.
>hairloss is the byproduct of excess estrogen >of excess estrogen No estrogen causes hair growth testosterone causes baldness. and you are literally retarded in every form
Isaiah Torres
The point of this post is to discuss how to lower or remove the added estrogen the western male is consuming in the current year. Also i didnt have enough space to put it in the post but another symptom of inbalanced hormones is you become lazy, jaded, and no drive to better yourself or your life. I believe that is precisely why so many men of today are opting out of higher education and would rather sit at home playing video games. It makes them docile. I believe cutting out gluten, bottled water, and canned meats is a good start.
>20 years old >my hair starts receding >start injecting estrogen >hair comes back 6 months later
sorry OP
low T makes you lazy and tired, but thats because the body needs enough of one of the two sex hormones to function properly..if you substitute it with estrogen its fine
Mason Perry
what the jews gain from weaker male population is a window for women to rise up in power and possibly take the reins, as we know women are predisposed to wanting more government, which would contribute to a globalist society. and with men losing their hair and peckers not working, doesn't make them too desirable to women which will ultimately lower birthrates.
Nathaniel Thompson
did you read anything i said? excess estrogen causes your testosterone to turn into DHT, which is just a more potent form of testosterone. Hair loss is caused from an inbalance of hormones and your DHT levels were most likely higher than your estrogen, so taking estrogen evened out the process, inhibiting the hair loss, id bet unless you keep taking the estrogen your hair loss will return unless you cut out the estrogen or xenostrogens.
David Reyes
>perfecthairhealth.com >they sell fucking shampoo >Op thinks this is fucking credible medical site like i said you are fucking brain dead retarded
if excess estrogen is the problem, why would taking MORE estrogen solve it?
Jose Hill
borvine hormones dont bond with human DNA
Dylan Baker
DHT is more potent that testosterone, as long as youre consuming estrogens your body will continue making DHT, hair loss is caused by an inbalance in testosterone and estrogen, removing this disparity will cause stop the hair loss as long as you keep the levels equal. Im sure the dosage of estrogen you need to take to combat the hair loss increases over time
Jace Watson
i didnt find a direct relation between milk and estrogen, that was just something ive seen on pol throughout the years, the estrogen you find in milk could be caused by the plastic carton.
Jace Myers
Pay no attention to the op of this thread goy- I mean guys. He is clearly a paranoid conspiracy theorist. Keep eating the processed Semite! and drinking the carbonated Jew! A healthy goy is a happy goy! Make sure you brush your teeth at least twice a day, and make sure you keep your hair nice and clean with shampoo and conditioner!
Samuel Wood
If excess estrogen is the problem why isn't every women bald.
Also as a tranny just wanna say that my hairline has advanced since I started the skittles, and it's not like I was balding before.
QED Ugly cave men lose their hair because of testosterone.
Kevin Evans
memes aside, i want to know how i can lower my consumption of xenostrogens, drink from BPA free plastic containers and checking labels for soy is the main things i can think of right now. Do you have anything to add to this?
Aiden Watson
im not going to answer the same question twice, just scroll up youll find it im sure.
Also youre a prime victim of estrogen, it has caused you prostate to become enlarged as well as make you more effeminate. But as someone who gives in to such impulses is telling of your character and says youre too far gone to be saved.
Caleb Butler
Virtually all food packaging is plastic, or lined with plastic. Soda cans are lined with a plastic film. Same goes for everything. Even glass bottles have a plastic stopper. All of our water comes in contact with plastic through pipes or bottles. It's not so bad yet is the US, but is Europe the female hormones in the water has reached critical mass. Birth control does not degrade in water, and just keeps getting more and more concentrated every single year it is released into the water supply by urination. Men are being emasculated. Only men can understand and defend the nation. Women are the ultimate goyim because it is in their genetics to submit and do as they are told without the ability or desire the question.
Ryan Jackson
Always use glass or stainless steel if possible and avoid soy like you said.
The next biggest thing are personal care products. There are all kinds of weird chemicals in soaps and shampoos that mimic estrogen, especially scents.
Use natural laundry detergent, and switch from body wash and shampoo to pure real soap, I like Dr Bronners. For toothpaste use a natural kind like toms or something you pick up at a health food store.
Natural antiperspirants suck and don't work so I keep using the poison ones because I can't smell at work.
Cool/cold showers increase t, sleep increases t, good diet increases t, exercise increases t, noporn increases t.
Josiah Barnes
Human estrogen and bovine estrogen have the same chemical structure dumb dumb. Also estrogen isn't bonding with your DNA.
Charles Jackson
>drink from BPA free plastic
BPA was replaced by something that has the exact same effect. There is no road you can take other than drink from glass containers sealed with cork.
>checking labels
If you buy your goyim feed from a warehouse you are already beyond saving. Remove the processed Jew from your life and you will begin to see changes. No amount of "checking labels" will help you.
Joshua Clark
Mainly liquids are at risk to soak up the BPA in plastic containers, food items arent typically in contact with it long enough to take a substantial amount. stay away from bottled water and soy are the main things i took from all the research. there could be many things out there that mimic estrogen that i failed to mention here, all my knowledge on the subject comes from the last couple of days. if anyone knows of other products that could mimc estrogen please feel free to list it here.
Brayden Morgan
This is why I buy pallets of San Pellegrino in glass bottles.
Ian James
from where?
Aiden Butler
unfortunately my feed is only available to me through a warehouse, same with the average person, if you tell them they have to farm and raise their own food to make a difference theyre going to disregard the whole concept and think they cant do it. Its detrimental to the betterment of our people so id recommend keeping that bit to yourself.
Zachary Cox
Walmart
Parker Long
best post in the thread so far, where do you get natural laundry detergent and real soap? and is toothpaste really a huge issue if you dont swallow it?
Matthew Long
>whole grain bread You mean bread with flax seeds you dumb cunt
Eli Collins
>excessive estrogen turns your testosterone to dht You're an actual retard aren't you?
Lincoln Hughes
S E N T I E N T E N T I E N T
Nathan Nelson
these are the wolves amongst sheep, the jews, the reptillians, shareblue, whatever derogatory name you prefer to use, do not listen to people who dont want what is best for you
Christian Perez
The grocery store and natural food/products store. Or the Internet.
You can buy dr bronners soap on the internet.
The toothpaste thing probably isn't a huge deal but every little bit helps. Also think about the entire supply chain of your food. Do you drink coffee? Drip coffee is made by pushing very hot water through a plastic machine, buy a glass french press instead. Stuff like that.
Benjamin Brooks
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Hunter Myers
>don't listen to people giving you incorrect information Ftfy. You daft retard, estrogen has nothing to do with your testosterone converting to dht. The only reason people go bald is because they possess the gene that makes their hair follicles react to dht. Contemplate necking yourself
Good thread is good. Don't sperg out too hard its unfortunate we live in a sea of chemicals that sissify us. Hit the fucking gym, drink out of glass, get enough sleep, fuck soy, don't watch porn/masturbate more than twice a month.
You're such a fucking inbred shill you can't even understand I'm the same fucking person It all makes sense know, you're shilling your shitty overpriced soap. Kirks is better and cheaper
>Japanese eat a lot of soy >everyone has strong hairline
Fuck off
Cooper Ward
its kind of scary to see how much of that is already coming into fruition. although it was published this year someone could just write down what is already happening to generate fear. But from what you post it seems like it could be speculation based on whats currently happening and what can come from it.
Lucas Bennett
I don't have the link at hand, but it's much worse than that. Even BPA free plastics contain and release xenoestrogens, some even more of it. It's fucked. It's not just plastic containers, metal containers and cartons are universally plastic-lined. Just as much contact surface as a pure plastic container. Temperature changes speeds up release, but anything stored for a longer time will have it. You can't avoid it. Either accept your fucked hormones, or fuck them the way you want, with test and AI's.
Ayden Campbell
>>Japanese eat a lot of soy >>everyone has strong hairline >Fuck off
ever notice how effeminate asian men are? of course some men are predisposed to hair loss already as its a natural thing.
Adam Gonzalez
>Soy plays a huge role in this, soy mimics estrogen in the body, Soy shit is in everything now. They use soy lecithin as preservative.
I think soy, xenoestrgoens and a high carb western diet are why so many millenials are balding at such a young age.
Matthew Sullivan
precisely, how do we combat it? is it even possible in a consumer society? how do we get knowledge of whats happening to the masses?
Isaiah Ramirez
Then what am I supposed to drink? Tap water = xenos from birthcontrol bottled = xenos from plastic
Chase Lee
Not really tho, 20 years ago male pattern baldness was almost unheard of in gooks but today's it's almost as common as in the western world, especially among men from southern china and Okinawa
Luis Brooks
my water comes from a well, but someone from the city could purchase a water filter, when i lived in an apartment i used pur water filters.
Hudson White
Another note on soy, I think 90% of it is a monsanto gmo - glyphosphate resistant. Not sure if the gmo makes it more harmful though.
Hunter Miller
You're fucked. Also worth mentioning, fat tissue acts much like aromatase, it helps break down test into estrogen. So probably the biggest change you can make is getting lean and staying lean.
Wyatt Wood
Flax seeds have the highest phytoestrogens per serving of any food. Avoid it at all cost
Henry Cook
do you have any sources on that? i just tried to google it but didnt find anything. If thats actually the case then the jews promoting fat culture and unhealthy foods would make even more sense
Xavier Torres
Too much estrogen also ruins women's reproductive systems with endometriosis and leads to infertility and lower birth rates. Especially in attractive European women who have more estrogen receptors and are thus more genetically predisposed.
Luis Cook
just looked it up, this is very much true. Add flax seeds to the list of things to be avoided
Some estrogen is good and is natural in men. Estrogen regulates bone strength and neural function.
Jackson Baker
>pur water filters That doesn't filter out the xenogens though. Molecules are too small I think.
>my water comes from a well Aside from getting a well, a lot of the water near me is contaminated because the bedrock is sediment (think pouring liquid into a jar of rocks - passes right through).
Kevin Harris
more fat does lead to an increase in estrogen I think thats the one true thing that has been said this entire thread
Lucas Ortiz
I don't remember where I heard it from, but this was my first google result. >ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11511861 It talks a lot about extraglandular production, and aromatase(the test fucker) expression in adipose tissue.
David Nguyen
White mushrooms have a lot of aromatase which is an estrogen inhibitor, which can be used for treating estrogen related cancers.
Robert Cruz
Nigger literally anyone can get a .org, .net, .com TLD. Reliable sources use .edu and .gov.
Luke Kelly
>You can go to /fit/ right now and there will probably be at least 2 threads up about fit guys who have puffy nips from gyno. Here's the thing about that, free test gets converted to estrogen. So a lot of guys on fit take test supplements that aren't stacked with an estrogen inhibator like clomid.
Here's the cycle:
Supplement to increase test ==> too much free test ==> converted to estrogen ==> develop breasts.
Luke Butler
il summarize the information ive collected from this thread as well as what i learned on my own accord into a single post for the tl;dr
Things that can contain estrogen or xenostrogens: plastics beauty products hygiene products such as shampoo, toothpaste, soap, and laundry detergents anything with soy or flaxseed city water
how to combat it: drink from glass containers, i was just looking at this glass water bottle off amazon amazon.com/Takeya-Classic-Bottle-Silicone-Sleeve/dp/B003DTLNUG silicon is non-toxic and doesnt leak chemicals into the water check labels for flax seed and soy
you can raise testosterone naturally by taking, refer to if im forgetting something please feel free to mention it as well as other things you feel should be listed here
Kevin Ward
Nice bro science. DHT fights estrogen. DHT causes hair loss. DHT isn't a more potent form of test, it's a byproduct of testosterone. DHT causes a deeper voice, body hair, increased libido, facial hair, and male pattern baldness. DHT has little to do with muscles unlike testosterone.
You, sir are an idiot.
Ryder Brooks
The amount of pseudo/bro science in this thread is making my head hurt.
Jacob Stewart
I have being drinking tap water all my life. My dad drinks bottled water and has a thick head of hear. I drank all water straight from the tap and by the age of 16 my hair was already thinning and I became violently ill and sick and lost all my hair.
nothing you said contradicts what ive provided, except that DHT isnt a more potent form of test but a byproduct, which could very well be true but its not important to me what its classified as but rather what it does it the body
Grayson Sullivan
your thread is what motivated me to make this thread, what do you normally eat? i heard somewhere that the severity of male pattern baldness is determined from the father of your mother, hows his hair? and MPB isnt something you can stop completely, 80% of men experience MPB in their lifetime. But what im speaking on is how its happening prematurely in our youth
Colton Thomas
I think (and hope) it's heavily X-tied. My dad was almost completely bald when he was my age, my mother's still has a full head at 80 and I'm not thinning yet.
Gabriel Cox
You are looking at DHT like it's the devil, but it's not. It's the masculine hormone and fights estrogen. You should be avoiding xenostrogens already though and boosting your testosterone by: exercise/weight lifting eating meat/healthy fats not eating sugar/simple carbs getting sunlight on your chest/back/balls(increases test by 200/300%) avoiding alcohol/weed and just don't be a fat ass in general
Kayden Rivera
godspeed brah, i never met or saw my moms dad so its a gamble for me aswell, 20 now thought and nothing noticable
Elijah Butler
>free test gets converted to estrogen That's not how it works, that's not how any of this works
Parker Brooks
start finastride ASAP
Henry Phillips
It's not happening prematurely, this is the way it has always been. My dad is 82 right now and was balding heavily in his 20s. He was losing his hair quicker than I am he was my age and he was born in the 30's ffs.
Matthew Rodriguez
>eating meat oh dear
Christopher Carter
I can see DHT serving a purpose in a society where xenostrogens arent in everything but here, the constanst influx of xenostrogens would keep DHT on the rise causing worse problems.
Christian Thomas
Yeah man have fun with the low sex drive, depression, bitch tit side effects it propecia causes. Just start lifting and shave that shit.
i think youre just genetically predisposed to MPB, have you tried minoxidil 5%? if so,and it didnt work, id recommend jjust shaving it all off and making your legacy from there
Ryder Williams
It's so bizarre I used to be a hardline depressed suicidal Sup Forumsack and now I'm a emotional estrogenised tranny but actually happy about life now
Girl hormones are really nice ;-;
Juan Peterson
whats the problem with eating meat? i can see the argument for red meats with the heightened cholesterol and what not but other than that what is really wrong with it?
James Evans
>Girl hormones are really nice ;-; trips don't lie
Kayden Davis
Nothing, they increase test. That guy's a moron.
Asher Reed
Test also feels really nice but doesn't make you into a bitchboy tranny.
Elijah Bailey
Estrogen is pretty great. It made me a compassionate leftist
Justin Campbell
Test made it hard for me to do things like express my emotions. When I'd get upset I just wanted to break things because that was the only way I could get it out.
Michael Morgan
I take 4 grams of pueraria murrifica a day along with red reish extract, genestein, and fish oil.
Hunter Walker
this t b h
Ive sorta accepted the decadence of my lifestyle. Its kinda nice once you do.
Hunter Cooper
That sounds more like a psychiatric problem. Testosterone makes you pretty fuckin happy and ontop of the world.
Eli Perez
estrogen makes you feel more loving and emotional in general, its kinda neat it really shows that typical gender roles don't just exist because of stereotypes
Jace Taylor
Everyone here says soy is bad but never considers soy fed livestock. Those chemicals build up in you. Cows are eating and shitting soy 24/7
Christopher Brooks
>"I'm an idiot who only trusts my government"
Congratulations on being the world's biggest goy! 100 shekels have been taken from your account.
Mason Cruz
If alcohol is bad for men why do men like to drink more heavily than women? Seems like high alcohol intake is tied to high masculinity
Eli Walker
4chins also uses .org. What are you trying to say?
