What would america look like today if USA voted in Ron Paul in 2008 and he got most of his policies implemented?

What would america look like today if USA voted in Ron Paul in 2008 and he got most of his policies implemented?

>listen to Ron Paul liberty report every weekday
>calls out obongo and trump for every deep state shenanigans they do
>realize that our country would've been great again if Ron Paul struck these corrupt fuckers down
>now I sit on Sup Forums depressed as fuck waiting for the inevitable civil war

We would have free markets and there would be much less non-whites here and the borders would be secure.

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In all likelihood, he would have been assassinated. If he survived a few years, then you would see a much smaller government, a free market economy, a reasonable foreign policy, a balanced budget, the protection of civil liberties, the abolition of the NSA (and CIA), a sound monetary supply backed by gold, a safer country, etc.

But that isn't the case right now. Keep the moment going.

Oh and of course Dr. Paul would end the drug war.

>he would have been assassinated
unfortunately true

The would have JFK'd him And if he ended up going with shit-for-brains Gary Johnson as his VP, he would fuck it up and lose in the following election (assuming he even decided to run).

Sometimes I really wish he did win in 2008. Obama ruined a lot after what Bush already ruined, with the only pay off being that the economy isn't absolute shit anymore. I'm glad we got Trump in, but the way things are going, it feels like a consolation prize more than anything, especially with how corrupt things are getting with the democrats and their foothold on the youth. I'm just hoping we can emerged from this shit actually great with Trump doing some good, needed action for this country after Europe continuously cucking itself.

>And if he ended up going with shit-for-brains Gary Johnson as his VP
he wouldn't have because johnson isn't a libertarian

the economy has been absolute shit under obama

the economy was actually better in the pre recession bush years

Dread his passing; it will feel like the coda of the US. There's nobody to replace his voice.

who do you think would have been his running mate in '08?

You can pick an ideal one, and/or a realistic one

This would be the meme

>There's nobody to replace his voice.
it's so fucking true

holy shit
where are the nationalist libertarians to replace him

all we have now are stoner cucks like gary johnson and he's not even a libertarian

>who do you think would have been his running mate in '08?
plenty of other people
mises institute people etc

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Right here mate. Not only a nationalist libertarian, but I do intend to get into govt once I graduate.

CNN would have had him impeached in the first month

open borders would sure get implemented : ^ )

>Right here mate. Not only a nationalist libertarian, but I do intend to get into govt once I graduate.
please do for fuck sakes

and run for president after you become senator

>open borders would sure get implemented : ^ )
why?
he was strongly against open borders.

He would have immediately started bringing troops home. It would be hard to demonize him to the point where many would be calling for impeachment without any evidence of wrongdoing.

aren't lolbertarians have weak stance on border control and immigration?

like this

Well, his position was never that strong. So if he had been elected, somehow, I guess we'd have a Democrat as president about now.

They are the biggest globalists so take a wild guess.

>non-interventionist
>biggest globalists
weird bait

So everyone died?

His son is the closest thing, but he's largely a party man.

>non-interventionists
>open borders and axe import tariffs
>deregulate minimum wage
>deregulate everything
>suddenly Paco and Jose are selling their labour for $2 an hour

Libertarianism is nothing more than a soft and orderly Anarchism while Libertarians are sitting in their comfortable chairs arguing how they could provide less with the same amount of government.

>aren't lolbertarians have weak stance on border control and immigration?
FUCK NO

Ron paul wanted to deport the illegals and secure the border.

Gary johnson is a faggot and not libertarian.

Mises supported strict borders controls too, same with rothbard and hoppe.

>hey are the biggest globalists so take a wild guess.
why do you economic illiterates lie so much?

>open borders and axe import tariffs
"open" borders without gibs isn't a problem because there's no incentive to move other than a desire to work or opportunity. import tariffs as a protectionist mechanism do nothing but pass cost to the consumer and don't stimulate domestic economy or spending. which is exactly why king nigger obama's attempts failed. import tariffs are great if you want $500 gallons of butter, though.
>deregulate min wage, etc.
$2/hr would still be good wage without central banking pyramid scheme and debt slavery

>>open borders
We aren't open borders. Fuck off you strawmanning faggot.

>axe import tariffs
Absolutely based, can't wait for cheaper consumer goods and a strong service sector economy.

>>deregulate minimum wage
ABOLISH IT
FUCK YEAH

>>deregulate everything
FUCK YEAH INCREASE ECONOMIC GROWTH

>>suddenly Paco and Jose are selling their labour for $2 an hour
They wouldn't even be in the country senpai

this

central banking fucking sucks

Daily reminder the first country to eliminate their central bank and allow free market banking will have the highest living standards on earth within 5 years.

Massive high paying service sector jobs with dominate this country's economy to consume the goods the rest of the world has to produce for it.

The workweek would shrink to 2-3 days a week and people would retire much earlier. This will also lead to more jobs becoming available.

Everyone would have high saving rates. Houses would be inexpensive. Debt would be strongly discouraged economically.

Massive automation would take place as the cost of capital goods would be extremely cheap. This will lead to massive levels of technological innovation.

It would be extremely easy for the average person to start a business due to the cheap cost of capital goods.

Daily reminder REAL capitalism has prices falling all the time instead is going up.

Daily reminder America never had a system of free market banking. There were only patches of American history with free market banking. The panics that happened during the 1800s were due to government intervention in the banking sector. Sweden had the longest most successful period of free banking and that's what made them really rich.

Daily reminder the longest period of (relatively)free banking in America coincided with the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION where wages rose and prices fell.

Daily reminder central banks are the very reason the economy is a pile of shit and our generation is so fucked.

That is the type of Libertarianism I respect the copter rides one.

Who would have been his VP?

lol at thinking abolitionf of nsa and cia is good


you realize china and russia would abuse the fuck out of you

>"Look mom I posted it again how cool and based Ron Paul is although all lolbertanians would do is turn a country into Liberia. Some day I'll have a job too and be hip like Ayn Rand"
You support a system you've only ever read on paper but you have absolutely no idea how it would play out in real life. Somalia has minimum government and no roads, just like almost all African countries. What you would produce is a slightly less fucked Somalia. Is that what you want?

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I think The U.S is beyond recovery.

Do you make this bullshit up on the fly or did you save your autism to a .txt just to post it on Sup Forums threads?

>>"Look mom I posted it again how cool and based Ron Paul is although all lolbertanians would do is turn a country into Liberia
Why liberia?
You don't make any sense.
Why would libertarians turn their countries into an anti-free market african shithole?

What the fuck is your argument?

>Some day I'll have a job too
Libertarians have jobs. It's you genetically cuCked losers that are too dumb for employment.

>but you have absolutely no idea how it would play out in real life.
But I do.
All examples of free markets had living standards increase dramatically for the working class.

See the gilded age in USA and the 1950s(where taxes were LOW) in USA.

>Somalia has minimum government
Somalia has no free market, it's a statist shithole overrun by warlords.
ALSO libertarians don't want no government. They want a state that protects property rights and has rule of law, clearly somalia doesn't have this. Also they're fucking somalians with shit genetics.
Man you are BAD at this.
Learn to argue.

Why do you commie kikes get so butthurt when the free market makes whites succeed?

If it were up to you henry ford would have been either killed or taxed and regulated to death and never created his car company.

It would be a lolbertarian paradise. We'd all be fucking our genetically engineered catgirls in flying cars that soar above privately owned roads that are well maintained and bitcoin would be the official US currency with cash expected to be phased out by 2020.

I'm Ron Paul and so can you, now let's elect this roodypoo!

>straw man
>bbbut somalia!!!
somalia isn't libertarian any more than zimbabwe is . it's a failed state with a history of centralized command economy and state-sanctioned religious oppression that inevitably crumbled into tribal violence.
you really managed to hit all the bog-standard talking points and bring nothing novel to the discussion. thanks for playing. enjoy your last reply.

Why do anti-libertarians repeat the SAME arguments we've debunked a million times?

This is honestly too fucking easy

for replies. I'd be convinced there's somewhere they can be cashed in to purchase goods online if the people who baited for them weren't so clearly averse to success.

So your whole argument is that taxes were low in the 50s although every high school graduate could tell you why the 50s boomed. Yes it was partly due to deregulation implemented for WW2 but you'd also have to take a myriad of other things into account like

>government stimuli
>automation
>extensive business relations with former axis powers
>high labour force and participation

>So your whole argument is that taxes were low in the 50s
they were

for the vast majorty of Americans(anyone who made from 0 dollars to the equivalent of 3.5 MILLION dollars today) paid only 15% of their income in taxes.

That's an INCREDIBLE low amount of taxes compared to what the "rich" pay today.

If you made more than that, yes your taxes were ~90% but there were so many fucking deductions it didn't matter, their effective tax rate was much lower.
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Because you fags advocate for a system that favors very good connected jews and fucks over the workforce in the long run.
Plus it has never been tried *once* for more than 10 years.

o shi-

It worked because the US won the war, gave Europe the Marshall Plan and the economy went upwards. When the economy tanked the US started regulating more.

>Because you fags advocate for a system that favors very good connected jews
No, we favor free markets and abolishing central banking.
We want to abolish special privileges the corporate/government jews get. We want to ABOLISH central banks.

Please explain how our system would benefit jews over whites.
I'm waiting.

fucking shit

americucks and national (((socialists))) are brainwashed as fuck

whites prospered in a period of almost no taxes and no central banking

>gave Europe the Marshall Plan and the economy went upwards.
HAHAHAHA
I love how DUMB this argument is.

It basically says the best way to have economic success is to kill your trading partners.
It's illogical as fuck.

America was the freest market in the world in the 50s/60s. THAT'S the reason they were so prosperous.

>When the economy tanked the US started regulating more.
No, the US started regulating more and THEN the economy tanked.
Nixon ended the gold standard and handed power over to the federal reserve in 1970. That's when everything REALLY started going to shit.

Yeah and the US had tariffs back then and a vastly different economy and the whole world had a vastly different economy and the US had way different infrastructural standards.

It was a better world

You have zero substance to your claims.
>bbbbbbut the market was so free in those 15 years everything eas soo good because we lived in Ayn Rand wonderland
>and not because the US was the biggest hegemonial powerhouse in the West dominating and dictating the whole free world
Your whole worldview is based on a brief period of time were taxes were low after WW2 ended. The economy later tanked because others too wanted a slice of the pie and post-war economics were bound to crash some day.