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Have you heard about MGTOW? Opinions?

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Beta cucks

jews and leftists trying to drag us in nothingness along with their kind

They are the definition of cringe and Incel. Elliot Rodger would join that shit.

You need national socialism , the Jews want to cuck you so bad that you can't return to normal life , don't fall for it

>Feminism: Whiny Bitchboys Edition

They are necessary, because women are here to destroy us. Unless we can take control of them.

>marrige
>alpha
pick one

Yes and it's bullshit. These people gave up and are quiters, cowards and weak.
If you can't reign in your wives then just give up on having a wife. Pathetic.
sage kill yourself.

Good goy

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From what I've observed, they're usually divorced men or those who have been in LTRs with plenty of nightmare stories to tell each other and start to notice behavioural patterns specific to women. Just like with everything else men are interested in, they've gotten women figured out better than niggers. Now that women have much more power and leverage now the older and wiser men are trying to warn the younger naive men from having their lives ruined because of bonding hormones and sex drive.

Until sentient robots with artificial wombs are a reality, the paradox of desiring a family while avoiding still exists and MGTOW has to face up to that.

Yes. Lots of idealistic good goys here these days. Most of them polled as young virgins.

Same thread, multiple times a day.

What's the gameplan here?

What's the endgame?

Why won't you faggots stop stroking your own cocks?

what if i told you that my opinion on this does not matter since i am a low value male what then

We live now in a very demented world, so they gameplan is to become Goku and the end game is VR and robot waifus.

>don't date actually religious women

Which will be probably conservative and want a traditional family instead of just going to church two times a year before banging Jamal.

>don't date multilingual ones

Although women are more linguistically gifted and will learn new languages more easily if not retarded without being foreign or autistic.

>don't date women which will cook

Although it is natural for taditional women to want to be a good homemaker.

>don't date blondes and redheads

Nice try, Shlomo, trying to destroy the last chance for a future for white children with this bullshit.

I've turned a Christian woman into an agnostic who meditates and inquires about metaphysics instead of going to church anymore. It's all about what male or even group they associate with and choose to emulate. Send a religious girl to university and she'll become a degenerate.

And redheads are crazy. Few deny this.

men grabbing their own weiners

Sour grapes movement for men who aren't able to get girls anyway. They just want to make it seem like it's their decision when, in reality, they're usually complete spastics.

Artificial wombs will make women obsolete within the next 10-20 years. Anyone who says MGTOW is bluepilled because you are removing yourself from the gene pool is retarded.

Sure, women are easy to "manipulate" as it's their nature to learn from their man but it's easier if you get a "naive" christian one which wasn't riding the dick carousel instead of a "christmas christian" which is already fucked up and only acts religious to gain shit.

Sure, don't go for batshit crazy religious nuts but those are a small minority, not worth making all religious ones look bad (t. agnostic).

Nah, natural redheads aren't crazy. It's just that society implements that picture and those lucky ones being born with red hair thing its something "cute" to reenact. Well and artificial redheads are shit.

It is still better for these men to become MGTOW than to waste time trying to get girls and failing.

No, cause if they would try they could actually get a girl and a happy life instead of being salty and bitching about it on the internet ruining fellow young men.

If you want to be a virgin be my guest but don't act like it's something to be proud of. Or that you are actually a virgin out of choice.

This tbqh.
Most of the time their situation is amendable (could work out, improve social skills, etc), but they just decide not to.

>women can do know wrong ur just jeluz
It's pretty lame to dismiss and entire method of thought by lumping it in with people you happen to not like.

The biggest whore I knew in University met her husband at Church. She'd fuck almost anything with a pulse regardless of gender including niggers & Arabs.
I nearly died laughing.
Poor guy was a good white Christian carpenter because that's what Jesus did. Arguably the nicest person I ever met.
She mentioned missing the University days.

mgtow is just men saying yep we wana fuck without paying much in response to feminist you gota pay more for ugly pussy movement

Most of the time it is beta males who do MGTOW.
No one's saying that women can do no wrong, but these people are essentially blaming women for not liking them.

One word: hypergamy.

did all of this, the game is still rigged.

I won´t boy down to a fucking bitsh for some pussy.

as soon as women are not able to treat me as a man as equal and our law and society takes all my possibillitys to force her to submit away, i won´t enter a relationship.

It´s about regulating the market.

You become chad, make a desire, and tell them why they won´t get you.
It´s haggling the price by redefining the social norms.

Well, we're speaking about probabilities. Sure there are christian whores, but it's less likely than finding them amoungst atheists leaning towards nihilism.

But considering he was himself a naive christian, she might simply have changed the roles, "outsmarting" the sexual market getting a religious and slithly dumb husband for using him for her own gain.

Let's be honest, that's what men are supposed to do with naive women.

That's unrestrained hypergamy in a nutshell.

Disagree. Most people who knock MGTOW are on this site and constantly lament about their virginity and inability to get a gf.

>says France of all people
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100% beta fucks... b a alpha.. fuck!!

All the biggest whores I've met have been "religious Christians" including a swinger couple who attends church every Sunday.
I put it between quotations because you can't be religious and singers.
IMO the only consistently decent white girls these days are Mormons but their religion is ridiculous.

>did all of this, the game is still rigged.

Nah, you're probably just not attractive. No matter how fit you get, you're still will not get "alpha" or get taller.

Don't blame women for wanting the best one on the market, that's evolution and human nature. Decrease your standards, as you obviously can't get the cream de la cream. I see such guys regularly, bitching about all the 8+ which don't want to date them just because they have a six pack while ignoring women more on their level.

Might be a north american thing. In europe being atheist is the standard so if you declare yourself religious you usually are really religious but in a healthy way.

>the end game is VR and robot waifus.
I approve of this.

I´m cute af when i´m out women dance at me i get hit on by hot guys a lot, and i can read females who get extremely wet when talking to me because me MGTOW lifestyle gives me the freedom to be proud of my aggression, my maleness and to embrace it.

I don't fear all this "oooh im making my holes unnaviable" shit i am free.
I can tell them what i think about them, i can behave the way i want.

And, especially since i am that way, I reject women more than they reject me.

They're usually whores that find Jesus IMO
A lot of former pornstars like Nina Hartly are born again Christians.
Remember Joseph was cucked & Jesus was nice to whores

you can make artificial wombs but you'll never replace the warm embrace and nether regions of a female who actually loves you

MGTOW is a sad pathetic way to define your life with your social failings.

this is what the west needs. it will cause a pussy glut and the pussy market value will fall like a rock

bitches are to picky . they all think they deserve some guy with rock hard abs who looks like a model but they are nagging you constantly to do something when half the fucking time they are the only one who cares so why dont they just fucking do it?

>calling himself "cute" as a male
>talking about making women "extremely wet"
>thinks MGTOW is "aggressive" and full of "maleness"

You know, everyone can read the autism in your words. It's like a mantra of empty words you repead to reasure yourself, fellow Hans. And it'S the reson germany is dying because men like you think being a evolutionary dead end is being alpha.

The male version of foreveralone feminists

If anything Sup Forums has taught us it's that the world has become a degenerate freak show circus on the verge of collapse both cultural and economic. He can pretend we can bring back a traditional utopia through individual will power, but it's not going to happen. This is bizzaro world is unfolding now, and men rejecting women who show interest in them is just part of that process. Those who tell you to find a rural good girl unicorn will be in for a rude awakening.

you are all pussies

You might want to read into the Mouse Utopia Experiment before laughting at people who try to fight that scenario.

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>a female who actually loves you
I see someone finally found their first GF. Come back when the honeymoon period is over.

There are still lots of good women in the suburbs and rural areas.

Get out of your shitty city for once in your life

>good women
no such thing

My face is cute,
I am aggressive and /fit/
MGTOW is a tool and it allows you self fulfillment.
I i want to fulfill myself as an aggressive and manly person, MGTOW gives me the possibility to do that without worrying about if any women would like me how i love me.

Every women you turn down will know that she can´t have you, if she knows that that´s because she doesn´t treat you as an equal and neither is willing to submit, it will make her think.

Also, if you don´t fuck many girls, and many girls want to fuck you, it gives you more value on the sex market.
This is exactly the reason why real women are far more desirable than sluts.

You can define the rules, you just have to be patient, and be able to not stick your dick into any wet hole which opens up to you.

This is exactly why women are winnig this, because they can have sex EVERYTIME THEY WANT and we have to "pay" for it by behaving like they want.

They want sex as much as we, they need it as much as we, so we have to make that clear for them, and not trow away our sexuality like it was nothing; even "pay" for it by being nice or inviting them to dinner and stuff.

Stay bitter

we broke up, sadly. Circumstances got in the way. But it was fun while it lasted. Why do you have such a dim view of a loving relationship?

>I i want to fulfill myself as an aggressive and manly person, MGTOW gives me the possibility to do that without worrying about if any women would like me how i love me.

So you want to be a aggressive man without actually fullfilling the main role of a man, that is reproduction?

You're merely larping because you're afreaid of the real male responsibility. You want the "cute" stuff without actually having to deal with the shit which makes a man a man.

stay deluded

m8, these fuckers dont understand because they never had girls chase after them, i saw through their bullshit since i was 13 and stayed monk

>implying that advanced sexbots will never exist

Stay sheltered

youtube.com/watch?v=KiODc8vS31U

mgtow is stupid as fuck...go out and conquer women.Before that go to the gym,learn martial arts,have a purpose in life.And never be a white knight or nice to women.

Transhumanism is the future

You might want to stop citing, like every other brainlet with no interest Calhoun's field of study, a single archaic study about the behaviour of mice in an overcrowded prison.

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I still make fun of them, but can see where they're coming from with how a lot of women are nowadays. Still, flaunting it is pretty obnoxious and what attracts a lot of the hate.

>Have you heard about MGTOW?
No, m8, totally the first time I ever hear about it

Fucking stupid. The west is already dying because of low birth rates, so lets avoid women completely.. Who's behind this I wonder? Hmm...

yeah a sexbot will be the only mother your child will know
I pity mgtow-ers.

In EVERY MGTOW thread you get the same discourse:

1) Inexperienced but horny kiddos think every guy just want to fuck anything that moves and the entirety of social interaction revolves around fucking and MGTOWs are fat autistic virgin neckbeards who can't get laid.

2) Actual MGTOWs who are experienced grown men who are warning about the dangers of women + the state vs you, and how you can be easily taken for all you've got.

3) The "Yes, thats right goy - dont reproduce" jew shills - yes JEW SHILLS. The thing (((they))) want you to do is YES reproduce children to a raving tinder psycho / bar slut who will NEVER grow up and you will be raising her as well as your kids until she bails on you and takes half your shit after dragging you through divorce court.

The jew agenda is NOT to stop whites reproducing, its to produce a WEAKER generation with poor parents so the state can bacome the new parents. No reproduction means no goy-cows for milking. Why the fuck would (((they))) not want a new generation of tax-slaves. (((They))) own the banking system AND the law courts / judicial process.

(((The agenda))) is all about making money from broken individuals from broken families - NOT stopping reproducing.

MGTOW is redpilled because its men refusing to get fucked over by the jew system - and (((they))) are worried. (((They))) are worried that (((they))) have pushed the feminist "high maintainance woman" meme too far and thought mn would become pussyfied slaves to nagging bitches and never thought men would just go their own way.

I've lived in the suburbs, small town, and mostly rural. Try again.

Part of being a man is to not give a fuck on other opinions and do exactly what is right for you (and your people)

I have time, women don´t you can marry and breed downwards, even with 30 you can still get a 20 year old chick.

I will settle down, but on my terms, and those include equal treatment and/or submission from my woman.

Permavirgin pathetic losers saying its a social or political statement that they are a waste of oxigen and find blaming women and society for their own weaknesses easier than fixing their pathetic lifes.

>Goy, this study in mamal sexual behaviour has absolutely nothing to do with your way of life. Keep MGTOW, all white women are trash, go your one way, children are only a burden.

It's sad that so many of you simply give up instead of trying and growing while at the same moment thinking that you'Re some kind of alpha knowing it all.

Stay genetical dead ends.

>implying you couldn't program a robot with AI to have mothering abilities

Just bunch of man Childs that want to play vidyas all day without the love of a woman. It's unproductive and they should kill themselves

>The jew agenda is NOT to stop whites reproducing, its to produce a WEAKER generation with poor parents


Actually most people here advise on getting a GOOD women instead of fucking trash stacies.

There's something in between, which was the basis of generations for millenia.

>a robot nanny that is also a sex bot
>not pathetic at all

The personal IS the political.

What makes you think that they could get a girl, and that if they did they would be happy?

That still won't fix bad genetics.

So playing vidya all day WITH the love of a woman is productive?

Men need to have higher standards of those women they choose to give their attention to. Its easy to attract bar sluts by throwing money at them, but this is not macho alpha-redpilled behaviour because anyone can do it. Men need to learn some self control and if they are dealing with an un-motherly tinder psycho - yes you can get laid, but theres no lasting relationship there.

By restricting who we give attention to, we are creating a better caliber of woman because they have to up their game. All these tinder psychos and bar sluts are created and made worse by riding the "cock carousel".

You never hear the concept of an alpha-woman on Sup Forums because Sup Forums for the most part have never concieved such a notion.

Go on dates and meet women. An alpha women is motherly, mannered and courtious and wont fuck you after a few dates. An alpha woman is breeding material. Not a crazy slut. Resist the primal, base level, neanderthal thinking to just get laid, and keep your dick in your pants and have some standards of behaviour - not just "shes hot and up for it"

Alpha women do exist.

Its because we threw out the notion that you need your spouse to survive. "Welfaire" should only exists for widows or the naturally retarded, of course this is only sustainable if the government where willing to subsidize sterilizing anyone with an IQ under 110. (On a volunteer basis using a targeted add campaign.)

Mgtow and feminism are both filled with bitter people mad at the opposite sex as a whole

Mgtowism and feminism both push for the destruction of the family unit

Mgtowism and feminism both want women in the work force so they can be stronk and independent(don't need no man).

Mgtows believe they should be able to abandon their kids and feminists believe women should be left to raise children by themselves

Both mgtows and feminists whole ideology is completely self indulgent with no foresight or concern for others or society as a whole.

Most mgtows or feminists I've met are just mad at the opposite sex because they got screwed over in their last relationship. Instead of realizing some people are just shitty, and bad relationships are a part of life, they turn their hate for their ex into a hate for the opposite sex

>What makes you think that they could get a girl, and that if they did they would be happy?

Nothing, but it's in my opinion worth to try instead of giving up and living a lie just to not face the fact that one either such a failure or weakling of character that one didn't even try.

Having a family is the way humans evolved to life. It's what makes us happy in the long run. Sure we can lie to ourselves because life nowadays is hard and shitty, but at least yuo can die with the knowledge that you tried. No trash stacie will wait on your death bed with you or care for anything you archived in your life. You will be nothing more but a number in the capitalist system.

Yes - I agree

See:

MGTOW is great tbqhwyf.
Unfortunately, foolish men (such as myself) have tried to have girlfriends instead of listening and got burned terribly.
Thankfully I never intend to make the mistake of allowing a woman near me again.

>Welfaire
>should only exists
>where willing
>add campaign
Very well then,
>anyone with an IQ under 110
We'll start with you.

Absolutely not, I can't argue that say 1 or 2 hours a day of video games is bad, totally go for it. But from there and spend the entire day behind the screen is bad, healthywise.

You tell em' eggy!

Post a selfie pls.

This is pretty much true. Unfortunately it'd be almost impossible to actually get men to go along with such a thing en masse, so most women have no need to actually improve themselves or stop skanking it up.

Unlike feminists, they're don't seem to have a political agenda and this is a +1 for me. Besides, I've never been bothered by MGTOWs.

So yeah, I don't care about them.

>Goy, this study in mamal sexual behaviour has absolutely nothing to do with your way of life.
It was actually about behavioural change that shifted from cooperation to the mouse prison descending into violence driving it into extinction. Did you even read the study?

I don't think in terms of alpha or beta like an insecure little boy. By the way, those terms come from a debunked wolf study. You should stop using false dichotomies to describe human interaction.

>they don't seem
Fix'd.

MGTOW can't fix the system, only civil war can.

and this wraps up the thread. Saved.

>Unlike feminists, they're don't seem to have a political agenda

Because men don't need the polizical sphere to express their ideologies. But it's much worse. While feminists will make you do X, MGTOWs will make you believe that making Y is the best solution.

While feminists will fuck you up and make your life shit, MGTOW will literally make you steril as a man. It's much more dangerous especially because men have more willpower and if decided will gladly die off believing it's the best decision they ever made.

Yes, I've read it and "alpha" "beta" is a sterotyp of males more than a real specific concept found in reality. Welcome to the internet, Canuck.