Forced Eurozone

I WANT OUT all EU countries which do not have euro as their currency will be forced by 2025 to have it, no matter what the citizens have voted for.

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>no matter what the citizens have voted for
Isn't it implied when you join the EU that you also have to join the Euro?

Denmark, UK, Sweden

where did these leaks come from then? really makes you think.

denmark and Uk have a permanent optout. Sweden doesn't, just uses clever accountancy to not meet requirements.

lithuania and latvia are in the EU

do you really want them to share a currency with you?

Got the info from the State approved media, just shows how undemocratic the Eu is actually

rather them than France or Italy.
These guys up there are culturally very German.

Dig your own grave, and save!

uh uhh not me

>Doesn't want euro
>Thinks in euros every time he's about to purchase something

wat

>Forcing the dirtpoor countries into euro
Good luck with that.

Finally Sweden will join the civilized world, it will have taken you loophole abusing kikes long enough
Baltics are comfy desu

For the love of Fuck, do not switch to Euro currency. It will destroy your economy with debt and take your sovereignty.
Switching to Euro currency gives (((them))) control.
Leave the EU.

Well, isn't the point to give the EU (Germany) control over member state economies and ultimately create one european economy where poverty and social conflict is equally distributed, turning Europe into one big ghetto of underpaid or unemployed drones? Enjoy the manufactured permanent crisis that allows nondemocratic neoliberal organisations to replace national governments, lol.

Maybe they got spooked over Brexit. It will be a lot harder to leave EU when you're using the same currency as everyone else in Europe.

So, The United States of Europe?

>U-S-E... U-S-E... Our poor have more culture than your poor.

Euro is the only good thing EU did.

>Implying the Euro is a success

The Euro ist the worst thing the EU did.
It's an absoute disaster.

>All those clueless retards shilling against the Euro because it hurt their feelings

The more countries that adopt the Euro, the stronger it becomes. The stronger it becomes, the stronger the economies using it become relative to the rest of the world. No Euro is a guaranteed descent into irrelevancy for any European nation, while the Euro not only prevents that but also offers top relevancy in this modern world, especially if it finally becomes the reserve currency.

The EUR is probably the best thing to come out of the Union.

>The stronger it becomes, the stronger the economies using it become relative to the rest of the world.
You are an excellent example of why the Euro can't work. You think you can ride the coattales of successful economies while not contributing anything.
In the end the ECB will stay on course with QE and German savers will pay the price with low interest rates to prop up lousy economies which need cheap money to stay afloat. We're practically giving you a way to tax our savings away for nothing in return.

>if it finally becomes the reserve currency
So we can print fresh money out of thin air and everybody has to buy it? Great plan.
That's exactly why Germany shouldn't go into a currency union with countries like yours.

It's almost as if the EU was built from the beginning as a way to force countries to mesh together and make it so you couldn't reverse it if you wanted to

You have no idea what you're talking about. Furthermore, your country will be absolutely irrelevant if it wasn't for both the Euro and the Union, and you know this very well. You're neither "masterrace" nor as wealthy as you think you are - if the Union disappears, you do not have the means to stay REMOTELY relevant in this modern world, and you'll probably get capitulated for a third time

But keep pretending that you're some independent regional power lmao

It's the steps just the steps to make EU one nation. One federation much like USA.
>control money
>control laws
>remove borders
>add immigrants to destroy local cultures
>unite people under one "country".
>make Merkel Queen

There you go. There are the steps.

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It´s not. Germany and Spain/Italy do not share economy, so they should share currency. Spain will have a much easier time if we´d be able to devaluate or coin, but we can´t. Imagine when third world nation tier nations as Romania will come in.

>Furthermore, your country will be absolutely irrelevant if it wasn't for both the Euro and the Union
My country was relevant long before your country came to exist again. Pic related. We could easily do it alone, you haven't established any of your claims. In fact it's the other way round: the EU is relevant because of Germany, and mostly Germany even.
The EU is a clean and tidy space for outsourcing and cheap labour for us. Nothing more. Our valuable exports go outside the EU.

>you do not have the means to stay REMOTELY relevant in this modern world
>But keep pretending that you're some independent regional power lmao
We're not independent because we don't have the balls to cut ourselves loose from the US. We could be a global power without any doubt. We're just too cucked to do so.

It almost is one nation. It has its own:

flag
currency
judiciary
parliament
executive branch
civil service
borders
police force
border force
army
navy
national anthem

What is missing to make it a full country?

There is no Federal Income Tax like USA.

It could happen at some stage at business level but I don't think income tax could be federal.

Kick out Italy too pls.

>Pic related. We could easily do it alone
Oh, so the Marshall Plan and artificial propping up of your economy from the US for as long as the Soviet Union existed is "alone"? LMAO

If they left you alone after the capitulation to the Soviets like they left the rest of us, you'd be absolutely equal to Poland. A proof of that is a visit in Eastern Germany, which looks exactly like Bulgaria except with Germans. As soon as the Soviet Union collapsed and you were actually left alone, you instantly reformed the EU into what it currently is so you can colonize all of Europe's economies through it. Without that, if you're actually left alone as you claim, you cannot be even half as relevant as a nation like Japan. The UK can, Canada can, Russia can, Japan can. You cannot.

So stop pretending that you're being this great donor to the rest of the "shitholes" to the east, because you aren't. We're more of a donor to you than you are to us.

>We could be a global power without any doubt.
LOL
And where's your navy? Wait, maybe you don't like a navy that much. How about an arm-, well, maybe the future will be fought in the air, how about an airfo-

Germany needs to keep growing the pyramid scheme.

the fact that italian politicians absolutely love the EU is the thing that makes me most suspicious of it since they're also the most corrupt in Europe..

>Marshall Plan
>If they left you alone after the capitulation to the Soviets like they left the rest of us, you'd be absolutely equal to Poland.
The Marshall Plan is the most overrated thing in recent history. We have given Greece around 30 Marshall Plans and they are still bottom of the barrel. The German Wirtschaftswunder was made by Germans not by Americans. In fact they profited from the fixed currency exchange system that was in place directly after the war till '71.
Your explanation is incomplete in every way. Poland is getting Euromonies shoved up their arse for over 10 years now but they haven't developed a huge amount of companies that West-Germany did in the years after the war. Poland is doing well but that's again not because of the US or of Germany but because of the Poles.

>As soon as the Soviet Union collapsed and you were actually left alone, you instantly reformed the EU into what it currently is so you can colonize all of Europe's economies through it.
correct. But that's not an argument.
It's a cheap way to get the low hanging fruits. It has nothing to do with the Euro being a scam.

>So stop pretending that you're being this great donor to the rest of the "shitholes" to the east, because you aren't. We're more of a donor to you than you are to us.
That's why you're shitting up the thread with praises of the EU? Because it's a drain on you?

>And where's your navy? Wait, maybe you don't like a navy that much. How about an arm-, well, maybe the future will be fought in the air, how about an airfo-
As i said: We need to cut ourselves loose from the US and build up our own army. Right now we're not doing that because we don't have the balls to tell the US to fuck off and ramp up military spending.

eww fuck off
shit currency.

I cba arguing with you because we'll keep levitating over those retarded circular arguments, but I can agree on the last point - we DO need to cut ourselves from the US and establish our own army, navy and airforce. Notice how I use "we" and not "you Germans". That's because contrary to what you tend to think, you alone cannot build an army because you lack the economic base to do so and sustain it. The EU however doesn't. This is a very good example of "the rest of the shitholes" benefiting you with their economies and manpower, allowing you to establish something that is otherwise not possible for your nation.

EU is going the way of Obamacare pretty soon. It's a motherfucking disaster path to a third world war sooner rather than later.

If PD loves UE it means that it is a criminal organization.

>WANT OUT all EU countries which do not have euro as their currency
Sure thing Sweden. Happy to leave.

>Romania
>Poland
>Hungary
>Bulgaria
>Lithuania
>Latvia
>Greece
You want these shitholes tied to your currency? They're Brazil-tier.

>They're Brazil-tier.
That's funny because Poland has stronger economy than Russia.

Would you vote to remain being under Chinese rule or would you go back to being British?

German want it.
It lower the value of its currency.

It means that it is cheating hard.
Fucking Germany.

lmao, good luck with that

we'll sooner leave the union

i also want out.

Polan
Let's do an alliance against Germany.

They are building an army to invade us once eu falls

You to are invited slave.