Why communists even exist today?

why communists even exist today?

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>he thinks peasants fighting the ruling class started with communism

>implying peasants don't benefit from capitalism

That's sun tzu, not che guera.

your pic contradicts your post.

that's the point

Because some people in this world are born with mental defects.

>implying peasants benefit from (((capitalism)))

>finally have their own land
>can freely sell crops for profit
>massive increase in living conditions
>not benefiting

yeah because state agricultural farms were soooo cool

Because some people read about what communism actually is instead of parroting retarded corporate propaganda about how horrible it is.
There used to be a significant socialist movement in the west, even George Orwell was a commie

There's aspects of Communism which is tempting.

Obviously it's flawed by nature because Humans aren't perfect and any attempt to fix reality is just going to lead to discontent and disharmony, and all societies are doomed to failure. But, to me personally, it's no different to Feudalism, Fascism, Capitalism, or any other -ism. Either way, I'm oppressed and not free, and people make decisions for me. The lie that Anarchism, Communism or Capitalism is in anyway gonna liberate me from my own physiological nature and the inclination toward stratification is ludicrous.

Which is why I've found myself just not latching onto ideological systems, but rather, a value system. There's no utopia.

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>conquest of bread
I've read it, it's utopian bullshit that Marx would quickly dismiss. even he acknowledged the need for protelarian dictatorship.
>inb4 USSR wasn't real communism
it wasn't, that's true. according to marxist ideology it was socialism. But denying it still is what world after your commie revolution would look (not that it'll ever come) Lenin, and Stalin in fact got the right idea. USSR style socialism was the only way to achieve communism. you can't just build your own little utopia without any sort of violence.

also orwell
>socialist democracy
>people don't like it because planned economy is inefficient and there is nothing in shops
>they freely complain about socialist governent because you are democracy, and you must have freedom of speech
>capitalist party wons election
>5 years of revolution goes to fuck itself

That's just democracy. Are you saying that Bernie would launch martial law if he got elected once but was defeated in the next election?

Reading about Communism makes most people wonder why Socialism exists when it destroyedevery country it was tried in. Communism was the direct cause of the famine of 1933 because Stalin is a fucking moron who took money and land away from wealthy farmers that were responsible for feeding the majority of the country. Commies deserve their own Pinochet

Bernie isn't socialist. at least in marxist sense.
socialism =/= social democracy. former is transition state between capitalism and communism (for example USSR). latter is just capitalism with welfare (scandinavia). in fact commies would call scandinavia counter-revolutianary because it supresses class consciusness

Eat shit and die

Living standards in Russia in the 1950s and 1960s were actually much, much better than those in the 1910s. Enver Hoxha's Marxist-Leninist government turned a literally feudal country with medieval living standards into a still-poor but much more modernized country.

Forgot to mention that Hoxha was in Albania.

thanks to central planned economy. in fact it's quite useful when you have huge crisis, or live in albania. but you don't have to be commie to use it. in fact in my country there was planned economy for some time. but they were not communists. BTW albania got shitload of money from china

>b-but Stalin is a bad guy!

>implying holodomor wasn't planned attrocity to punish resisting kulaks

How do you imaging this to yourself? You come to the villages, take the food, beat the fuck out of everybody/whatever hohols imagine to themselves just to make them (and countless batraks and serednyaks) starve?

when you could just come and hand out one way tickets to siberia to every kulak without harming the "countryside proletariat"

Do you understand that your way of explaining things fits any ideology but the one that was centered around working class?

>declare collectivization
>kulaks sperg out and start revolting, killing cattle, and burn crops
>Stalin gets angry at them
>take food
>people start starving
>refuse to send it because stalin was a literally paranoid autist

>Do you understand that your way of explaining things fits any ideology but the one that was centered around working class?
you really think he cared about that shit?

>>kulaks sperg out and start revolting, killing cattle, and burn crops
>implying it's a bad thing to punish the autists

So the whole your theory is based on some people being inheretly illogical and unfitting what they say, right?

>stalin did X because he was a paranoid maniac

Such explanations explain nothing.

You know that ukrainian SSR still exported crops rather than keeping ot to feed people?

Communism is unachievable with a global average iq of 88. It can only occur if everyone who would actually benefit from a communist society is genocided, at which point it's pointless.

It is naturally attractive to leftist because of their morals.

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>It is naturally attractive to leftist because of their morals.
You say that like it's a bad thing. Sorry for loving freedom, I guess.

>no god, no country, no master
>get BTFO by franco's
K E K
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K E K

No really, tell me how are you to build communism when it requires concentration of means of production (AKA state) to make all those technological advancements needed for it to work? kropotkin even wrote about role of technology in CoB

>he thinks there is even a remote comparison between feudalism and communism/capitalism

It gives man the ability to organize and work toward goals that are larger than the individual.
It breaks down the conflictive relationship between people created by capitalism:
Competition for jobs, competition for customers, competition for advancement.

Competition is replaced with cooperation, the instability of unemployment and false scarcity is replaced with social insurance and planning for the future.

people are liberated from humiliation, they can stand up and criticize whoever they wish without fear of job loss.
Go tell your boss what you really think of them.

production is used to provide for people, instead of people being subservient to production. Your income is dependent on the growth of production rather than your own personal contribution. this means if robots replace you and increase production your compensation grows because production grew.

The whole point of communism is that it comes AFTER capitalism is no longer needed. We already have the technology to provide for the basic needs of the world's entire population, and its imperative that we act to end capitalism relatively soon before we all end up in a Brave New World-style dystopia if its not too late already.

>It gives man the ability to organize and work toward goals that are larger than the individual.
It breaks down the conflictive relationship between people created by capitalism:
Competition for jobs, competition for customers, competition for advancement.

which creates stagnation

>the instability of unemployment and false scarcity is replaced with social insurance and planning for the future.

you know there was unemployment in socialism too?

>people are liberated from humiliation, they can stand up and criticize whoever they wish without fear of job loss.
Go tell your boss what you really think of them.

Go tell chairman what you think of him

>production is used to provide for people, instead of people being subservient to production. Your income is dependent on the growth of production rather than your own personal contribution. this means if robots replace you and increase production your compensation grows because production grew.

too bad nothing is produced

Because higher education is filled with commie dim wit lecturers

stagnation and unemployment exist in capitalism.
>Go tell chairman what you think of him
pic demonstrates the consequences are much better than what they are in capitalism

Maybe you are not a worker, but a parasite, if that is the case it is understandable why you wouldn't want workers to have rights, dignity and political power

Nice breadline bro, mine's bigger though.

Fuck communism and fuck communists

Because their parents give them everything on a plate. I've never met a communist who had a job.

yeah freedom of speech is cool. too bad you don't have it in socialism. even if you are commie too...

I didnt say it that way.

its kim jong un actually norway

Utopian idealism refuses to die

why do skinny, stupid white boys think that they would survive communism? you would be dead within 5 years in a communist state you stupid little faggot.

> implying there is anything wrong with MLP
Gas yourself

Pseudo-intellectuals love running around the ideological rat-maze that Rabbi Marx left to the world. Give these people something productive to think about and they'll go full 1488 in less than a week.