Do you think the Empire in Star Wars is really evil?

Do you think the Empire in Star Wars is really evil?

To me it just seems like a bunch of White guys who stood up for humanity as a whole and against all odds brought peace and order to a chaotic galaxy.

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>emperor literally became emperor to save galaxy from bigger threat
Fuck off you non canon bastards

>To me it just seems like a bunch of White guys who stood up for humanity as a whole and against all odds brought peace and order to a chaotic galaxy.

That's because you're dumb.

disney is probably going to make it bad, but it seems like originally was going to be that the dark side and the empire were going to be the good side

originally it was going to be that luke turned to the dark side

Yes.

Remember that the jedis were a bunch of degenerate perverts that kidnapped children and brainwashed them into their shady occultist sect

>Do you think the Empire in Star Wars is really evil?

No. Jedi are massive faggots. Sith had the right idea before the rule of two nig-noggery.

I'd like to see an Imperial Propaganda movie about Palpatine. A book mentioned one, it'd be a hoot. The Empire had the potential for good, but it was mismanaged from the top. Like the Democratic Party.

Yeah what did the Empire ever do that was actually bad.

I mean besides blowing up that one planet.

The Rebels were the violent ones.

This. Before the EU got retconned to shit, the Star Wars universe was much more grey. There was a lot of nuance to the conflicts and there was no real "good" or "bad" side.

Disney made it a typical "good guys fight bad guys" story and sacrificed 100% of the depth.

Achieves power through legitimate means. Gets attacked by unelected, unaccountable theocratic elites (jedi). Tries to stop rebellion by tiny minority who consider themselves to be enlightened while anyone of the unwashed masses who supported the emperor are just idiots who were misled and couldn't possibly have been informed and reached different conclusions.

Yes, Lucas based the Empire off of the WWII era Hideki Tojo Japanese Empire and those people were violent and evil.

Fuck you EU kept the setting but didn't have to pass through the choke point of bullshit and editing for 'mainstream' factoring that the main series had to have.

Yes, everything in the films and the actually good books make them out to be evil, even stories told from their perspective

The empire did nothing wrong.

Rebels plunged a flourishing economy to hell and destroyed the highly centralized system the empire had created.

>the jedi
>religious fanaticism
>sexual repression
>provincialist (rural stupidity)
>hate the central gubbermint
>use terrorism to achieve political ends
wtf i like the empire now

>the actually good books
>the stuff I like says they are bad so they are bad, mmkay?

Kek

well, in rogue one it seemed much more rebell-y than the original movies. that movie seems to try to be deep, but it still doesnt excuse removing the entire EU

A concentrated empire was needed to deal with threats from outside the galaxy by hostile forces. Good job Rebels and Jedi for fucking all that up. Bunch of cucks.

Also in the (now retconned) EU they literally kidnapped children that were force-capable to bolster their numbers.

fake fan alert

>Do you think the Empire in Star Wars is really evil?

It is for the sake of story purposes.

But if it was real life then no, obviously not. They're the only real police force in the galaxy and most of the people on the two death stars were civilians contractors.

The guys behind the new trilogy literally called the Empire white supremacists. There is no depth, only the illusion of depth.

reminder that rebels=niggers

> strasserite lefties got rekt by real NatSoc's

>Implying anything but the thrawn trilogy, rogue series and a few of the prequel books are worth reading

The Jedi were fucked up faggots as well but the empire are lolebil tier villians

that was my point

This. This actually happened.

Luke Skywalker will be a Red pilled Jedi in the new one.

why are there even humans "along time ago in a galaxy far far away"?

i just remembered that episode 7 had a black stormtrooper. im confused now.

Faggot ass muslims are too pussy to attack Israel. They're not real men. They let jews steal their land. Muslims are the biggest pussies in modern society. If they had any balls they'd attack Israel.

Not at all. The empire just wanted peace. People were treated very well under the empire. It's the Jedi who kidnap children to brainwash them who are evil. The Jedi are a literal cult.
A planet filled with nothing but rebel scum. A planet that was rampant with rape and murder and human trafficking. Blowing up that planet is equal to bombing the shit out of Muslim countries.

He quit the Empire because the Empire is very white supremacist mmkay? You can tell the Empire is white supremacists because the black hero man is fighting them.

im pretty sure hell be a gray jedi. basically the same thing but still

The point of the the empire was to build a strong enough force to take down the coming Yuuzhan Vong.

Alderaan was a central hub of the rebellion, and it had defensive weapons strong enough to repel most invasion forces. Plus it was one planet out of fifty million in the Empire.
Palpatine did nothing wrong.

What's better, a stable tyrannical government or chaotic freedom? Although the rebels basically just wanted to give power back to the Senate that ruined everything to begin with so their rebellion was doomed from the start

true true

These conversations always remind me of this video

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They really should have kept the EU explanation for the clone wars and how the empire came to power, the new "canon" one fucking ruins the entire thing and makes everything far more black and white

lmao what is this from?

I remember, in a fucking children's horror book series no less (Galaxy of Fear I think?), one of the main characters is ragging on this Imperial officer just doing his thing. He's talking shit about how the Empire is the devil, blah blah. The officer guy responds by saying that the Empire provides literally billions of people with affordable housing, patrols the hyperspace lands so that the galaxy can actually fucking function, and gives away trillions of tons of food and water for free to starving people whereas the rebels are just a bunch of anarchist terrorists that blow shit up.

thats some sweet sweet blue milk

The first new cannon book did a pretty good job of blurring lines. Rogue One did an okay job too.

Really makes you think.

Canon is the word you're looking for.

On a larger scale, the sith in general are better than the jedi. Just look at their oaths. Which is more attractive to you?

>child
" i wanna be Luke"

>teenager
"I want to be like han solo"

>Adult
I Want to be Darth Vader

Or this?

>Wanting to be a bag of burn tissue in a robot suit
I want to be Imperial officer no.2195125 stuck on the whore planet or some chill backwater
Fuck being actually important

Wow Sith sounds a lot more high T than that Jedi cuck shit

Citizens:
Do not be fooled. You have heard accusations from REBELS. Accusations of "atrocities," of war crimes. They creat these to decive you.
These are lies. Why would they lie to you unless they were desperate, unable to achive victory?

THE EMPIRE IS VICTORIOUS ON ALL FRONTS!
REBELS?
The only ATROCITIES are theirs, as they destroy order and peace.
They began this WAR.
They are TERRORISTS.
They are CRIMINALS.
They are MURDERERS.
Trust you leaders. We defend you from those who would replace the New Order with anarchy and economic misery.
Support your Empire.

THE EMPIRE IS VICTORIOUS ON ALL FRONTS!
SUPPORT THE EMPIRE
Enlist in the military, donate goods, inform on suspects today!
Don't suspect them Inform on them!

THE EMPIRE IS VICTORIOUS ON ALL FRONTS!

The Sith are basically just worshipers of the free market. They believe the most powerful should rule and that through violence or other means those unworthy to rule should be toppled or destroyed outright. That's why they're all about "strike me down!" because if you're worthy enough to defeat them and strike them down, you're worthy enough to rule instead of them.

Palpatine did nothing wrong. He wanted to prepare his galaxy for a massive invasion of alien species. He hadn't a chance to finish his plans, and countless people have died, orders of magnitude more than killed by the Empire

Rebellion was nothing more than galactic terrorists and they all deserved to die. Never forget Emperor Palpatine and Lord Vader!

^

or brainwashed

i want to be darth talon so i can be sexy as fuck

Jedi= benefitting others and becoming knowledgeable w/ force
Sith= becoming powerful w/ force

me too

Palpatine wanted to prevent this
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yuuzhan_Vong_War

palpatine did nothing wrong

jedi= benefiting others by suppressing emotions
sith= benefiting others by using emotions to become powerful

You sure?

Shit. Wrong pic. Sorry.

>Elites taking advantage of crisis to enlarge their fortunes and power bases using boofearhiss.

Art imitates life.

Siths aren't really about helping others. They're about helping themselves

Did you ever hear about the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic, he could save others from death, but not himself.

What is Sup Forums's opinion on Kylo Ren?

edgy teen vader wannabe piece of gay shit

Was a much more interesting villain than a lot of people gave him credit for

Empire are the good guys fighting a bunch of mudslimes in space.

He has the autistic temperament to let him develop intro a true Nazi. Hopefullyhe doesn't let his emotions get the best of him when he needs to pull the trigger