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Why aren't you Catholic yet, Sup Forums ?

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Ad maiorem Dei gloriam

God bless

Good day brothers.

What is everyone's opinion on "Communion Under Both Kinds?" Does your church give the laymen both the body and blood of Christ?

Because Jesus said, "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."
No need for kiddie-diddling idolaters being the middle man between me and my Creator, but thanks anyway, Thierry.

I'm surprised you heretics didn't come sooner

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"no need" but it sure helps to have a specialist who has spent his life studying these things, when the average Christian doesn't know more than a verse or two if he's ever read the bible at all. Average Christian doesn't know Greek or Latin or Hebrew, so if Average Christian's language and education didn't teach him a lot of the concepts found in the bible then it goes over his head; people aren't born with all the concepts built in, concepts don't perfectly translate across languages and thousands of years etc.

In other words, try confessing to a random Christian. He doesn't wanna hear your shit. Now try just praying on it yourself; can't really kick it, can you? Now confess to a professional who does this all the time. If you've never done it, then you don't know how comforting and great it is to have a priest hear your confession. God forgives you, not the priest, but it is amazing to have the guy listen to your problems and remind you God forgives you and loves you. You can't get that experience anywhere else with any random person, and it is free!

Pride's killing you. So many mental illnesses have emerged since the rise of protestantism, and it comes from people thinking they can just forgive themselves. They may think they talk directly to God and feel good for a bit, but then they go right back into sin over and over and the guilt builds and builds. Better to just talk to your priest about it and leave it there.

protestants hate this

>why aren't you a member of one of the biggest nigger supporters on this planet?
I wonder

I have to wait till September so I can take RCIA classes :(

I already know more than the RCIA probably even teaches...

I was just baptized as a Mormon.

It's always good to see fundamentals again. Might open other perspectives

Currently working on perfecting my Buddhism, once I've covered personal mysticism I'll try and reorganize a relationship with the church

What a fucking joke lol. Because Catholicism doesn't have what it takes to defeat Islam, Orthodoxy does, they are the ultimate kebab removers in chief. It's no surprise, Catholicism is a servants religion, it's weak, Islam is a warriors religion unfortunately.

FFS, just look at the current state of your church, why would anyone want to be catholic in this day and age.

>Catholicism doesn't have what it takes to defeat Islam, Orthodoxy does, they are the ultimate kebab removers in chief.

our ancestors nearly did, before love of money and protestants came.

so what ? isn't it typical of this generation ? we want the good times but when we go through hard times it's unfair, we give up ? I want to go till the end with the Church. Whether for good or bad. They don't need quitters. They need people who practice and stay.

dog/s are not worth praising.

We better fix Europe, first of all. I'm Catholic, but we're slowly becoming minorities here in Western Europe. Even Italy, where the seat of the keykeepers always was, is about to fall...

We must not give up, we must pray and do better; but we have confused the pacific attitude of Jesus with the lack of action of pacifism, which is a sin. Not to fight against evil is to be complicit with it.

Breaks my heart to know such a great Country like Czechia is now so unfaithful...I wish them good luck still. At least they are not fully brainwashed.

Hello there. Let's not fight amongst ourselves, at a moment like this.

ignore him...but I give the Orthodox Church this: they never gave up, even when they were under their rule; same when the ((Communist revolution))) and the USSR took over.

Pope Francis would excommunicate me for believing in Christ and not Mohammed.

Because I'm not interested in being a part of the system of the anti-christ/the beast/the little horn

Because it is a corrupt and scum filled fallang of christianity. Protestantism is the best what I am conserned

>niggers supporting niggers
>bad thing
I thought the problem was their inability to do so.

>pol
>worshipping jews

That is true. Then why construct cathedrals and magnificient pieces of art?

Must be degeneracy then.

Agreed.

And to be affair, it was Catholic armies and navies that removed Islam from Western Europe, prevented armadas from invading Italy and also repelled an Islamic army that marched right up to the gates of Vienna. We were also the ones bogged down with the Barbary States. England more or less took advantage of this to seize opportunities for its own aggrandizement.; but to the fair again, the Prots were the underdogs against the Catholics and it was largely Catholic lands and sea lanes that were under immediate threat from the Muslims.

>Pope Francis would excommunicate me for believing in Christ and not Mohammed.
Behold the effectiveness of modern demoralization propaganda.

>Catholics make a statue of a Saint, therefore they are satanists.

>implying Jesus was the equivalent of the modern day "Synagogue of Satan" who call themselves "Jews."

>implying Jesus was the equivalent of the modern day "Synagogue of Satan" who call themselves "Jews."
Rejects tradition, betrays his nation, loves everyone like our SJW faggots do - sounds like a kike alright

Worshiping the dead is just the beginning of the pagan ideas they've introduced into Christianity

His people betrayed him, and by betraying him, the Jews betrayed God himself.

>Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. (Revelation 3:9)

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>Rejects tradition,
Restored it
betrays his nation,
Saved it
>loves everyone
I don't think the Pharisees felt much love
>like our SJW faggots do - sounds like a kike alright
SJWs are radical revolutionaries, I doubt they would appreciate the injunction to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's

>Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
>And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
>I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
>Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
>They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
>And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
1/2

>They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
>Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
>I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
>I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
>They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
>But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
>Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
>Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
>Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
>Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
>And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
>Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
>He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
>Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?
2/2.

God is my strength

>Worshiping the dead
Jesus was a human that died, was he not?

Catholics don't "worship" the saints, they ask the saints to pray to God for them.

Also, the church had to compromise and allow European pagan practices to continue (Halloween, Christmas Trees, Easter Eggs, etc) in order to make the religion appealing to the pagans. It has nothing to do with "satanic corruption" or whatever. Remember, we are still Europeans who have our own traditions different from the "people who call themselves Jews." We don't celebrate Hannakah or Yom Kippur, do we?

we fell from grace, that's for sure...we lost our way, our roots and we're loosing the batle for our future, the one which starts into the craddle.

I'm Catholic and I am well aware of all the troubles and terrible isses of the RCC. But I bleieve in it because I first and foremost believe in God. We confused tollerance with allowing people to walk all over us and even beg forgiveness if one of us dare to fight back as Jesus intended (with wit and trying to avoid direct fight, but always ready to strike in defence of others and our lives if necessary).

Jesus warned us all: "However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?" (Lk 18:8)
And we, as servants who knew the will of the Master, will be asked an higher toll for our failure:
"The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him, and at an hour of which he is unaware. Then He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers. That servant who knows his master’s will but does not get ready or follow his instructions will be beaten with many blows. But the one who unknowingly does things worthy of punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and from him who has been entrusted with much, even more will be demanded." (Lk 12:46-48)

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Maybe Catholicism is better over in Europe, but here it's mostly degenerates that are Catholics. They have zero self-reflection for their own shitty behavior and a sin-on-Saturday, pray-on-Sunday type of attitude.

Most the Catholics I know are cokeheads.

I think I am going to sart a total boycot of Novus Ordo masses, I have seen too many liturgical abuses and know that the devil hates latin.

>His people betrayed him
If I kill a traitor and that traitor happens to share my nationality, I don't become a traitor myself. That's not how this works.

>Restored it
Can't restore something by changing it.
>Saved it
You don't save your nation by opening your borders to the entire world.

Why do you Americans love kikes so much?

>Jesus was a human
Mind your articles! Jesus was the human to live.

He was no traitor. If I were to tell you how to get out of Plato's cave, I would be your friend. But you would kill me.

Because your mass is way too fucking long and it takes you almost 20 minutes to even start communion.

The problem isn't your prayer the problem is the people are not dedicated to the religion anymore. We need religious zealots like Pastor Anderson.

Christians are no longer the organized force they once were. They don't own media. They don't wage wars. They don't control anything. The Christians today are passive and uninterested and that is why they are being replaced by people who are much more cunning.

>American Protestants
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Also, the Protestant doctrine of "Sola scriptura" is a disaster, it causes Protestants to deny proven science.

I've only been to Catholic church once and the people didn't even speak to each other. Wtf is the point.

>He was no traitor.
Did he or did he not invite the entire planet into the kingdom originally promised to the people he was a part of?
Simple yes/no question

the problem with Catholicism is: we stranded from our roots, we got confy in Europe and the USA and we became sloppy in our faith. Another persecution, thousands upon thousands of dead martyrs willing to die for the one Go would give us back the dignity and humbleness we lost (and I'm not talking about the grandour of robes and churches if those are offered as a gift to God, while too often is just apompous obstentation of self-importance from a small being which was made up from the dirt of the Earth and given life by the Spiritus Paraclitus.

>Can't restore something by changing it.
This is question begging, user
>You don't save your nation by opening your borders to the entire world.
God and truth are not exclusive to any one nation or people: God is not private property. This is exactly what the Jews believe.
>Why do you Americans love kikes so much?
You are a kike.

Jesus is alive now, is he not?

Why must you ask Mary to pray for you? Are you afraid to pray to Jesus on your own behalf? Mary is dead. The dead know nothing.

Why should the church ever compromise with pagans on spiritual issues? What a joke. My identity as a Christian is infinitely more important to me than the national identity of my ancestors.

I'm not much into denominations but I went to Presbyterian and Methodist churches growing up.

I don't know what qualifies as "Protestant" but maybe you are thinking of the nigger Baptists in their gold and purple robes?

Presbyterian and Methodist weren't crazy and the people actually shook hands with one another and socialized, which is the entire point of church. When I went to Catholic church it was like this organized sayance where the priest would say some inaudible phrase and the crowd would repeat. No one spoke to each other, then you went up and ate some tasteless cracker, then the service was over.

>You are a kike.
Didn't your rabbi, member of your beloved chosen people say, "salvation is from the jews"? :^)

Anti-semitic christians are fucking hilarious. Stop worshipping their king if you want to be taken seriously, you dumb shits

>art
pretty pictures and tall buildings have fuck-all to do with my immortal soul, dirty raghead.

yes

acept your pain and dont do anything about it goy

Because i'm not a cuck

That's strange. Perhaps it was a devotional occurring, which is usually directed toward God. When I go to Mass, half the problem is people talking to each other; but even if people are behaving, you still have the sign of peace which everyone gives to each other and afterwards there is typically some event to attend for socializing.

I'm not into hereticism.

>worships dead things and not the living Christ
>calls others a heretic.

>the people are not dedicated to the religion anymore.
Absolutely! I just replied to another comment with these same wrds! Glad we agree!
(also, sorry if I reply this slowly: I'm in the middle of something.)

Well, we go there to pray and give thanks to God, we should respect the sacredness and silence of the church.

You are using woman logic right now.
>Get invited by the king to a party
>Don't want to go, so give excuses and don't come
>King gets new quests

>abandon your religion
>your nation becomes filled with Muslims

Look, you can sit here and try and reason about why Christianity is bad all you want but the proof is in the pudding. Poland doesn't have any shitskins or Muslims running around because they didn't abandon their faith.

go back to /x/ with your dumb shit, this board is for politics and news

Because I don't believe in (((Their))) god. Based as a motherfucker.

It's a simple yes/no question, user. For simplicity sake you could've answered with Y or N too.

Stop avoiding the obvious issue with your kike cult

Christianity is just another jewish ruse.

The whole point of church is to socialize and network with other Christians, this is what builds up sense of community and comradery

Fuck your empty practices.

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You are a kike: even the Romans knew that salvation would come from the Jews. But the Son of God preexisted the theological divide between Jew and Gentile; indeed, He was promised to come before even the division of the world between Europe (Japheth), Africa (Ham) and Asia (Seth), which was also theological (and the backdrop for the story of the tower of Babel).

Catholics are pagans in disguise, which is why.
Holy water isn't a thing, you memers.

I was going to be, then I realized the Catholic church is more pagan than most pagans out there. Mary worship, saint worship. idolatry, list goes on and on.

Most Catholics will tell you the exact opposite and say the exact opposite but if you go through RCIA and ask the right questions you'll come across the many contradictions to the church. All the exceptions you could say.

Don't get me wrong, the Catholic Church has a lot of good to it and most people whom are Catholic are good and righteous people just out to love God and their fellow man. My idea of God changed after I did further research for myself and came to my own realizations about my faith and beliefs.

If you're interested in Catholicism I'd definitely give it a shot. Don't take RCIA light-heartedly or rush it at all. It's meant for you to question and understand the Catholic belief.

>abandon your religion
>your nation becomes filled with Muslims
Yes, because nigger foot coinnisseur Francis and his cuck cult that's literally housing those muslims you complain about in their sure would rid us of this problem. Just like how the Christian Middle East and Christian North Africa were able to deal with this shit.

Face it, as long as you worship king kike you'll be prone to their shenanigans. The biggest """"argument"""" a Christian can have against them is being butthurt because they wouldn't convert. That's just not going to be enough at this point.

>It's a simple yes/no question, user.
Did Jacob betray Esau and his father? God doesn't play fair. The world is a comedy, and you are the joke.

do american schools indoctrinate children to hate Catholic church ?

>even the Romans knew that salvation would come from the Jews.
kek this Christcuck delusion

Let me tell you about why Judas was the good guy and you're all worshipping the wrong God.

Christianity in total these days

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There were plans to convert Rome into Judaism. Shame that the jews were keen on mutilating genitals and revolting.

>this level of historical ignorance

I already am, my fellow frog.

Jesus never preached that, my friend...He was pacific, not pacifist, He also flipped tables, whipped merchants like they were fresh cream and told his followers to be tough or just go home.
True Christianity, one lived in fullness, is a challenge to one self. It strenghtens will and flesh, whilst admitting we are prone to failure; it teaches love but not naiveteé; it tells us love is a difficult thing, which often requires suffering, but also moments of anger in which you fight your own loved ones to save them.
My father once slapped my mother because she had a panic attack and she went in apnea for her fear...that slap made her breathe again and saved her. That is love, not saying "Oh, do what you want as long as you feel happy!"; that's Devil's talk! To DO good is often to feel the burden of our actions for a better future; to FEEL good is to send ourselves tied and gagged to our most animal instincts and to enjoy only the present without recollection fo the past or direction for the future.
I lived like a beast for two years, I'm lucky I didn't get AIDS or any other weird STD. I believed to be happy, but a snese of misery was brewing in me..the more low I went the number I felt, just to ignore the pain. After two years like that, I almost had an heart attack due to my bitterness towards men. A Filipino priest helped me, saved me from myself and the grip the Devil held on my life, my body, my soul.

>Did Jacob betray Esau and his father?
Yes.
>God doesn't play fair.
The kike god sure doesn't, which is why I won't worship him and the cancer that are his people.

But i am user. Ex anglican now going to be received next easter. Feels comfy finally being a part of God's church

The biggest hoax ever is that there is life after death.

Where's your source then, kike lover?

How do I into catholicism? Are there any books to read/rituals to accept/etc? I'm Orthodox myself, but the guys are worthless and can't get things done

Yeah the Methodist Churches are okay because they also believe in "Prima scriptura" in contrast to "Sola scriptura."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prima_scriptura
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura

>people actually shook hands with one another and socialized
Catholics are very big on tradition. Socializing is saved for before and after mass since the mass is supposed to be dedicated to God. Usually, but not always, people shake hands during mass and say "peace be with you."

One thing that I do very much disagree with many Catholic Churches on is the importance of "Communion Under Both Kinds," which I asked here: Catholic doctrine says that Christ is "fully present" in both the bread or the wine so only one is needed, but only giving people the bread is in fact a violation of TRADITION, because Christ himself gave his apostles both the bread and the wine, as did the apostles to their followers. That is why during every Communion I always demand both the body and the blood.

source?

Because all religion is nonsense

I misunderstood you: I thought you were talking about people in the church, not outside and in the community. This was very bad of me, confusing the building with the people. I made a terrible mistake, I apologize.

Can any catholics point me to readings that show the succession from the church in Acts to the modern catholic church of today? I would be extremely interested in reading that. Also, I just picked up The Confessions of St. Augustine and look forward to reading that.

>..and the cancer that are his people
See , Truth will set you free. Hatred will bind you down. Anger is good, though.

You already. Catholics fully accept orthodox. You can go to a catholic church and receive communion. No need to be received