>have PhD in applied math >Apply to internship in Toronto bank >300+ PhD applicants, I get the job >Pays $20 an hour with no benefits and no full time offer afterwards >The work doesn't even require a PhD, the employers just felt like being picky because they can get away with it
Why is the job market in Western countries so much worse now than it was 30 years ago? This is getting unsustainable
Carson Reed
immigration
Josiah Cooper
Government over regulation has killed competition, thus driving down employment
Nathaniel Morris
>math
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Chase Hall
>get paid 17.07$ an hour after taking a two-week job training, a great job to work in summer as I study in university
Might want to look more closely
Xavier Powell
government subsidy of "higher" (((education)))
Nathan Sanchez
You spent years of your life, and a lot of money, learning to think for yourself. You are a liability. Companies want people they can train to think their way. Preferably with experience.
Brayden Thompson
how did he do a phd and 3 postdocs with only 6 papers? no wonder, should have at least double that
I just finished my phd and i have 5 papers, doing a postdoc which should have me past 10 in 3 years. Still wont get a job tho because im fucking a white male
Josiah Martinez
Work harder. Stop being poor.
Jaxon Thomas
> learn another language > move to the "second world" (Brazil, China, BRICs) world where they beg for a person with your skills.
Jayden Hughes
>internship in bank
doing what
what the fuck are you even doing
Angel Long
>blue collar jobs go to chongs to save $ >white collar jobs go to pajeets to save $ >women join the workforce, cutting the rest of the pile in half
Kevin Lopez
If this is real, then you fucked up somewhere.
Gavin Wood
kikes
Nolan Jackson
the problem appears to be, that you suffer the disease of being white and male
Luke Watson
bugman.txt
Jason Collins
Because of globalist jews user. Like it or hate it, that is the truth. Go borrow some money on behalf of your children or don't have any children. Either way, enjoy.
Sebastian Anderson
I make 40$ hour. I own gold. You're educated.
Adrian Turner
Oh bullshit. It's because employers want you to have a debt they can threaten you with. That's the same reason that most of the middle class has employer-sponsored health insurance. Source: ex-gf's dad, "muh job creator"
Jaxson Morales
As a person with a Blue Collar job, and a MA, I wish t NEVER went to college. I total waste of time and money.
Adrian King
Risk management
It's boring as shit, basically just reading regulatory documents and making sure our numbers meet the minimum.
Carter Bailey
>>have PhD in applied math > >Apply to internship in Toronto bank > >300+ PhD applicants, I get the job > >Pays $20 an hour with no benefits and no full time offer afterwards > >The work doesn't even require a PhD, the employers just felt like being picky because they can get away with it > Why is the job market in Western countries so much worse now than it was 30 years ago? This is getting unsustainable
Seriously get a real job
Work in shipyard
Make over $27 an hour with near unlimited overtime if you're not retarded, college degrees very rare in trades jobs
Keep nearly 70% of income after taxes and premium benefits
Easton Long
bro my brother makes more as a financial advisory 2 years college. what bank do you work for
Benjamin Turner
why does it need a phd
why is a math person doing economics work
Dominic Hall
They asked me if I wanted to extend my internship by another 6 months and I almost laughed in their greedy chinese faces
Jonathan Ramirez
Feminism just about doubled the supply of labour
Ayden Campbell
nvm ur just larping
Landon Clark
>be me >chemical engineer >master degree and doctorate in chemical engineering and materials science >speak 4 non-native languages (english, spanish, german, french) and can code in 5 >never ever even got an offer for a chemical engineering job, ever >worked as a sales guy for L'Oreal, which doesn't even needs a degree >give up and join the Police academy >spend my days doing paperwork for the investigations
Life sucks in the third world. So much effort, so much studying and whole nights awaken doing homework and essays, for nothing.
Jeremiah Edwards
Dude there will always be bad job listings
Stop being a cuckold
Tyler Sanchez
Maybe you should of picked a career that pays money
Isaac Lopez
100% this. Wages driven down for everyone.
Jason Morales
I meant to quote it but fucked up.
Michael Kelly
>$20/hour internship >internship Fuck off and die. I was barely paid $1/hour at a fucking energy test bed.
John Brown
Top 5 bank on Bay Street
We sometimes do coding in R and undergrad level math.
Jaxson Cook
Neoliberal economic policy. Every major party in Western countries has the same failing economic doctrine, intended to protect bankers and investors.
You're absolutely retarded.
Daniel Howard
Apply to military! If you were 'Murican, you'd have your choice of positions, NSA, USN, USAF, CIA, DIA, etc.
Jason Green
3 post docs, only 6 papers? What a joke
Angel Fisher
Here I am in a major city being offered multiple jobs in the IT sector with no finished degree all around 65-70k starting. OP, learn something useful you dumb faggot.
Elijah Sanders
Engineering interns make more than that and get benefits
Dylan Bennett
> be me > drop out of STEM undergrad program > become developer at major tech firm > make double the average household income of my country
Being in my mid 20's and making this much is fucking awesome
Caleb Ross
I hear there's a lot of money in banking
Nolan Watson
bc 9/11 and bc mathematics is an unreasonable phenomenon that is unnecessary aside from addition and subtraction
Justin Lee
You applied to an internship not a job you moron...PHD and you cant figure that out...also you didnt bother to tell us what people in that field make in toronto after a year or two of experience...hence the internship.
Chances are you put in the grunt work for a couple years making 20k a year and youll end up making six figures within 10....You have to be larping if you couldnt figure that out.
William Cook
Heh heh... Some people think the Civil Rights Act was some sort of manna from heaven. Heh heh heh... There is. Don't expect to get any of it unless you're a psychopath.
Aaron Moore
Guy I know interned at microsoft and got 7k a month as an undergrad
Brody Hill
>drop out at 16 >start working in security >24 now >own a house, car, RV, bike and jet ski >falling for the education meme
Henry Edwards
>50% of Americans live on the poverty line >Just get a job in IT!
Justin Nelson
>went to colledge/university I see where you went wrong. You thought a paper on the wall would feed you.
Ayden Baker
Gj working hard now raise a family and be a part of a community.
Luke Rodriguez
Ah fuck off. Please don't tell me this is true.
Chase Lee
you must literally be retarded. I have a bachelors in math and applied math and first job out of college (right now) Im making 95k salary with 20-40k bonus (ive been told to expect)
Isaac Rivera
>t. Retard
The reason most middle class jobs provide subsidized health insurance is because it was illegal to raise wages during wartime and 1940s companies had to think of some other way to competitively attract workers. Everyone started doing it and the trend never died.
Joseph Jones
There is a lot of money if you can drive revenue. Any good paying job in banking is only going to pay well if you are good with people and can sell. PhDs don't matter.
Zachary Sullivan
>graduate with bsci in med science >get a $45,000 job doing analytical shit in hospital >find a $90,000 job putting up scaffolding Really tickles my taint...
Robert Ross
And yet when adjusted for buying power the wages are lower now than in 1940, with no insurance at all!
Wew
William Peterson
>smoke weed >do retail and construction just now learning plumbing people are jobless because they don't want to do manual labor. To be fair some people can't do manual labor but most men 40 and under can do it.
Carson Walker
I have 3 kids >yfw both parents are Maori
Brandon Williams
>$20 an hour isn't good
Sure it's a starting wage but it is infinitely better than being a NEET or wage slave
Mason Ramirez
Companies want people who are able to compartmentalize their own agenda and their company's agenda, preferably finding a way to fulfill both of them at once. Thinking for yourself is absolutely not a liability, but inflexibly refusing to follow your employer's proven protocol absolutely is. You're being paid, for which you provide a service, to spec. Give someone money to do something and see how you feel about them doing it "their way." This thread is full of no-world-experience neet retards congratulating each other on your inability to navigate human society.
Oliver Morales
Depends what field. If you're doing cancer research in mouse models good luck getting 1 paper during PhD. If you're doing materials science you can probably get 6 papers in a PhD with average effort.
Jackson Smith
>Ph.D >3 post docs >6 papers
What the fuck. I've got a friend in the first year of his PhD that has published 4 papers. Jesus Christ, no wonder he's unemployed.
Dominic Miller
>drop out of school because it was too gay >move away from fag city to small town >get job that starts at $22 per hour with health and pension benefits >boss didn't even finish highschool but works hard and knows his shit
Why is OP such a dainty-handed faggot?
Isaiah Wright
It is.
Life is hell in Brazil. I should have just skipped higher education, it's not worth it here.
Ian Russell
Outsourcing, immigration, women in the marketplace, automation, regulation, and debt-heavy, low-interest financial policy that hurts the working class.
Ryder Cruz
Surely if everyone just pulled up their BOOTSTRAPS there would be no poverty
Dominic Myers
Thank you based merchants for galving the cost of labour and getting my wife easy access to BBC and gubmin gibbs if she decides she wants to run away with J'mal al Bagdahdi
Oliver Thomas
$20 an hour is shit for a person with a PHD
Gavin Jones
hmmm.. i don't know, maybe research the job market before you piss away years and thousands of dollars for a useless degree. i'm self taught computer security, retired @ 55. i' still do a little contract work, i won't interview for less than $50 hr
Robert Rodriguez
>2 year degree in industrial maintenance >got a job starting pay $20.65 >full benefits >5 day work week. Always weekends off
Eat a dick leaf faggot
Ryan Howard
Maybe for plumbing. I've worked across several construction trades and there's tons of work place politics that keep people from advancing. Most foremen are Friends, Brothers, or In-laws of some other fuck in a company. Can't even count how many times I've had to fix some fuck up that a bosses son who had a higher title and wage than mine
Lincoln Perry
>Toronto
Well if you're white, that's the problem
David Reyes
>be me >no degree >make more than most of you idiots
You're all a disgrace to the white race. Sort yourselves out.
Isaac Howard
What do you do?
Kevin Phillips
>get degree in a field that is saturated >WOW WHY CANT I FIND A JOB???
You could be making 6 figures doing a skilled trade, but you think that is 'below you'. So now you take scraps.
Stupid millennial.
Juan Price
OP youre in Toronto. All medicine services are free? do you even need more money?
Kayden Sanders
IT jobs here in Florida require a Net + and A+ but starting pay is 10:10 an hour.
Yes, thats right, 30 hours a week maximum, no benefits, and only for 300$ a week BEFORE taxes.
For an associates and 2 technical certs.
College was a mistake.
Jaxson Peterson
>Muh Neoliberalism No, it's the fucking immigrants that are killing the job market. Them and the old people who are living longer and retiring later, not allowing young blood in most companies
Brody Price
It's also 3rd world tier wage in Toronto. Where a non bed bug infest 1 bedroom is $1300+ leafbucks with every commodity jacked up
Asher Carter
He isn't completely wrong.
Immigration is one of the key tenets of neoliberalism, and there are just too many people for the available jobs..
Mason Miller
Florida economy is shit.
Alexander Flores
I'm starting my first year undergraduate in business this fall. Any tips on future planning? I'm thinking of going into finance to learn the way of the market jew.
Levi Brown
If you're not a lazy fuck it isn't hard to find work within 1-3 months. If you can't do that you should kill yourself for being such a lazy dumbass
Liam Ortiz
That's for the job market to decide. Which it turns out is shit, but between that and nothing, you take $20/hour. The real problem is with high school and undergraduate educators telling you that degrees lead to better employment opportunities when realistically you would have better chance at long term, financially rewarding employment in your field if you had become an electrician.
Joshua Perez
>get college degree >nothing but internship offers that pay less than minimum wage, no benefits, have to move to expensive city on my own dime >fuck that >take a Wine and Spirits certificate course for 500 dollars >am now making 60k a year working for a winery
yep
Landon Lewis
>phd
Your fault for not doing an internship while you were an undergrad, or afterwards. By now you should be doing some type of fellowship, but instead you're selling yourself for peanuts making it more difficult for the rest of us.
Christian Adams
Sounds like your friend is lying to you because many science PhD programs do rotations and aren't even in a lab their first year
Owen Miller
90%+ of my co-workers are foreign born. There's a bottomless talent pool of Chinese, Iranian and Russian stem PHDs so the employers don't give a fuck
Anthony Garcia
Do you realise how many people in this country live in poverty or close? It's not for lack of hard work, there are systemic issues
Ryan Carter
>PhD in applied math
That's where you fucked up desu
David Nelson
Toronto is the next Vancouver in terms of housing and Vancouver is the next Toronto in terms of social faggotry. Move north, away from the American border, it's almost like the flouride is leaking into our water
Elijah Adams
What do you do at the winery? How long did it take you to make that much?
Ethan Powell
it is fine in the US
Jace Adams
We had plenty of immigration from 1950 - 1980, where wages doubled twice. That was under largely keynesian economic systems.
Wages have stayed the same since 1980.
Cooper Hernandez
I'm working for free at my internship, and delivering pizza by night.
Gabriel Sanders
I did a PhD and two postdocs. In the postdocs *alone* I had six papers, and that was considered a middle-of-the-road number.
Anthony Wood
>Says Neoliberalism >states that someone is retarded for thinking it's immigration >Neoliberalism commoditizes labour and it's in their interest to keep labour costs down through immigration
I think you're the fucking dipshit here user
Joshua Lee
We imported a bunch of ambitious Asians and we aren't competing
Hudson Campbell
You got any change chump?
Adam Russell
Lol holy shit that's awesome. It's always the places you least expect it that have some of the best jobs.
Isaac Mitchell
You need to make drugs it pays well with your degree , set up lab make a killer batch of exotic drugs fentanyl retire !