Islam needs reformation

There is no way a `book` written some hundert years ago can be accepted as god given rule in a modern society. Islam needs reformation. Anyone who denies that is either blind, dumb or already radicalized

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isnt that odd that Catholic Europe was divided because of the reformation with the help from (((them))) of course but (((they))) cant initiate it on Islam? I wonder what benefit (((they))) get for- wait

Really makes my noggin joggin

Islam needs eradication

r*formation destroyed christianity

The only way the Jews and Islam reform anything about their religion is when they recognize God has come back to reign in heaven on earth. In other words they need to become Christian and realize that Christ died for their sins.

That is the only path to reformation for either of those religions

Reformation is a matter of reintepretation, you can't fucking reform Islam because the Koran is full of direct orders instead of paraboles like the new testament, and that would be extremely haram

Now it's Islam's turn.

>being this theologically illiterate

This

Ironically, Luther was a fundamentalist

You guys are very ignorant. The Reformation didn't happen because of effeminate losers like you. It happened because the Roman church and it's monopoly on the Bible was re-interpreting the Scripture to teach false teachings like the papacy, Marian devotion, sale of indulgences and the mass.

True Islam is violent and requires that it's adherents wage war.

> Luther was a fundamentalist
In other words not a degenerate atheist

Yes it does need reformation and there are people in muslim countries risking their lives trying to accomplish just that. But as long as these lefties keep insisting Islam is a religion of peace and is perfectly fine it's never going to happen.

actually it's time to establish and enforce blood rights, because if you think absolute trash like other religious groups (sikhs), other non-whites (niggers), and in general all these new subhumans that europe has gotten, should be kicked the fuck out.

This goes for pretty much every western country that doesn't want to fade, there are NO benefits to having non-whites in your country.

> shouldn't be kicked the fuck out, you're wrong*

Not really destroyed Christianity since it never will be. It destroyed Europe. Unsurprisingly, it was a jewish subversion

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Perhaps, he still associated partners to the One God and that is inexcusable

Retard, if anything it's the Salafist movements that are the reformators.

The problem with Islam and the Koran is that its is literally the word of God. Reforming it would be like saying God was wrong. If God is wrong then He isnt God at all. Thats why Islam will never be reformed. Thats why Muslims will never be able to stand up and say "this part doesnt make sense" or "we shouldnt follow that part" because doing so would mean the entire religion falling apart.

This is why you cant say "not all muslims" this is why you cant ever trust a muslim and why you cannot allow muslims to become even a large minority in your countries. Therez no shades of grey within islam.

No, Islam needs to be eradicated completely. Every man, woman, and child born to muzzie vermin.

There are plenty of people trying to reform Islam, but they're all either killed by the Islamic state or silenced by the left-wing media. Look at Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

theres one problem with that in america.
islam is called a religion so it's prtected by the constitution so we can't just purge muslims.

> problem

Jungle gook, please

> muh based black womyn

This trend did exist in the Russian Empire (see Jadidism). However, the trend of reform came to a halt because the Soviets killed off and silenced all the reformers to enforce atheism.

>The problem with Islam and the Koran is that its is literally the word of God. Reforming it would be like saying God was wrong. If God is wrong then He isnt God at all. Thats why Islam will never be reformed. Thats why Muslims will never be able to stand up and say "this part doesnt make sense" or "we shouldnt follow that part" because doing so would mean the entire religion falling apart.

This Anglo knows.

So I've been co conflicted... On one hand I think that the koran needs to be changed, because people interpret it in a bad way (even if it is the easiest way to interpret, or even the intended way to interpret). On the other hand, I vastly oppose people blaming video games or books for violence.

Now I agee how a religious text is different from a normal book, but still. Just because stove people blue themselves up doesn't mean you have the right to change it in done way...

>Islam needs reformation
The root cause of why muslims are complete shit is not because of the faith, but because of the genetics

It helped create the modern nation state and promoted secular government.

agreed

Muslims need extermination

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And thats where the Problem lies. Every aspect of adaptation to a modern society is supressed or rejected.

But jet "islam belongs to (((insert your european country here)))"

>implying attempts to reform Islam haven't been happening constantly since its beginning
Various schisms in Islam are some of the reasons there's so much unrest right now. Ever heard of Sunni vs Shia? Not to mention Sufi and dozens of others.

Also, Martin Luther is probably not a good figurehead for this, as Catholic vs protestant caused quite a few wars over the years

But Islam cannot be reformed. In islam, the quaran is the literal word of god, revealed to Muhammad in the desert through the archangel Gabriel. And unlike the New Testament, there are no parables, no comparisions, almost nothing that can be debated. The quaran gives clear orders. You shall do this, you shall not do that. Every aspect of life is ordered, from eating to shitting. Also, where the Christians can form individual relations to god, Islam only knows one connection to god, one way to pray: submission. Total and utter submission. That is what Islam means, submitting yourself completly to Allah. It is totalitarian at it's very core. Everything has already been revealed, all rules established and muhammad, the perfect man whose actions are to be imitated, has already been born. And his life has been clearly documented in the Hadith. Thats why you cannot reform parts of Islam. It is a monolithic block of an ideology. Once you start saying that marrying and fucking children is wrong, even though Muhammad did it, everything crumbles, you cease to be a Muslim. Their very creed, the shahada, states: "there is no god but god and muhammad is his prophet." Altering the quaran in any is a sin punishable by death. So you can't just cross out sections you don't like. And you can't ignore anything written in the quaran because it is the literal word of god, as revealed through the prophet. The "moderate muslims" who only take some parts seriously are considered infidels in the muslim world. There is no moderate Islam or radical Islam. There is just Islam.

This.
Therefore, what should be done?

>There is no way a `book` written some hundert years ago can be accepted as god given rule in a modern society. Islam needs reformation.

The Reformation was all about biblical literalism you fucking moron. The Protestants were literally LARPing old testament Jews and claiming that the many pagan elements of Catholicism were evil because they weren't biblical. And the bible was supposed to be the main source of political philosophy according to them. How stupid can you be?

And how are you going to promote reformation to the Muslims? Look at modern protestant churches with lesbian bishops and Global Warming gospel.

Catholicism is heading that way with the current pope but isnt that far gone.

You know what we must do.....