What does Sup Forums think of civic nationalism?

What does Sup Forums think of civic nationalism?

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it's probably a pragmatic step toward creating a white ethnostate. it allows people to slide left which is a mistake.

still perpetuates white genocide
>b-but muh based niggers that talk white

Sargon is a useful idiot. Once civic nationalists realize how pointless it is to bring in degenerates and most minorities, they will become ethnic nationalists.

It's an oxymoron.

Civic nationalism = globalism

We need nationalism to fight globalism and the shit skinning of the West.

>Was in lecture today for a bullshit sustainability course the university is making engineers take now
>Guest lecturer goes full retard dropping words like "white males", "equity for all", "uninformed public" - i.e. anyone without a university degree, and basically calling people horrible for having so little trust in the government and scientists

These faggots keep trying to guilt and cow people into thinking that giving the government and foreigners more control over your life and more money is a good thing. I can't fucking stand all these fascist elitist fags who push these degenerate anti-west ideologies in post secondary institutions.

nah bro, we just to teach these based negros our libertarian freestyle capitalist economic system, then theyll get off the democratic plantation and we'll live in peace and harmony with our families raising our children and sending them to the same school as all the black kids
>using degenerate and fascist as an insults in the same sentence

Doomed to fail.

See: Yugoslavia

they are traitors to their own country and race
cucks in one word

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You have civic nationalism in UK, Spain and Turkey.

And what you get are terrorist Irishmen, Basques and Kurds.

Civic nationalism fails.

Civic Nationalism: pro-white genocide, pro-zionism

The scariest thing a White person and a Minority in the US could ever hear is "I'm a civic nationalists", they'll destroy the demographics and endanger the native Whites and destroy everything the minority has worked for by bringing the Third World to him

Nearly as bad as the "fuck white people" liberals

Perhaps the only way to ensure the United States of America remains a single entity.
Probably won't be enough. Racial tensions are too hyped for it and it will forever remain a weakness for America's enemies to exploit.

As for Europe, it's a no-go for at least the next few centuries. We must eradicate and recover from the banking cartel's trickery and that unfortunately necessitates a ban on immigration. Perhaps it can be allowed on ethno-cultural grounds, but that's a discussion worth its own thread.

Yugo wasn't civic, it was pan-nationalistic.

It's good for basic redpilling. I watched Sargon's videos at first and ended up as a white nationalist after a couple of years. He's naive about everything being about culture instead of race, but he's still right about basic SJW stuff.

Is that William Riker?

He will ditch civic nationalism before the end of the year. Mark my words.

Um, the enemy of my enemy is my friend?

reddit tier shit

It's a gateway drug to better ideologies. Just like shit like Naruto or Bleach is a gateway to better animes. Sarg looks good for a fat fuck desu.

I can attest

No, wrong example. Yugoslavia failed due to communism and later on socialism. When that failed, people started being nationalists and everything went shit.
Civic nationalism means you belong to your country not your race etc.... Pretty much the most powerful country in the world USA is the prime example of the civic society.

The beginning of Naruto was top tier shounen, fag.

I don't actually watch anime dude.

It's incomplete, it's grasping for the father, which makes sense since we've lost much of our identity, but we forget to reach for the son and place too little focus on the individual.

sort yourself out

REGRESSION
TO
THE
MEAN

youtube.com/watch?v=Jpmlqtnrec8
CIVVIES GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

It's what happens when Normies get their hands on Ethno-Nationalism but don't want to appear racist to their social circle. Fucking pussies.

Or maybe we are more than 12 years old, we have real jobs and make real money unlike 12 year olds.
So instead of naively thinking that "my countrymen" is everyone who is (insert here) we value people based on their contribution to society, instead of some another totally arbitrary shit you can't change.

Tbh senpai, I just meme on Sup Forums. I'm totally with you.

I don't like to insult children, but those kids are hideous. You'd think they'd find some cuter ones for propaganda

I don't think civic nationalism is enough, but I also feel that strictly ethonationalism is too extreme, at least here in the US. The problem with civic nationalism is that it allows minorities to bring their backwards culture and stand out from your WASP American. According to civic nationalists, Islamists and Latin American socialists are okay as long as they're US citizens, which is the only think that makes you American according to them. The problem with ethnonationalism is that it assumes that race or ethnicity is the only factor that matters, and at least for the US, we're a mixture of European ethnicities with no ethnicity really bonding us together, and simply being "white" doesn't count because white hoodlum niggers are a thing too.

If a minority can assimilate completely into the US and abandon their backwards culture, then I don't see why having a little bit of them is that bad. Of course, we'll have to restrict immigration and encourage the majority population to have more children so the minorities don't ever have a chance of outbreeding us. If race truly is a factor, then it will become apparent once 99% of the minorities here now are deported because they didn't make the cut. But at that point, does that 1% even matter?

Useful as overton window

Fucking BASED, right fellow MAGApedes?

Uh, no. Civic nationalists expect full integration into society. If you're from the M.E. and wish to migrate to the U.S. you best be damn sure to forgo your fantasies of raping and groping women here for sport, just for example.

fuck you denmark no one likes you.

That's not true. Everyone loves Denmark.

Good enough as a gateway ideology

Civic natio

whatever helps you sleep at night denmark. even poland talks shit about you when you aren't looking.

>I watched Sargon's videos at first and ended up as a white nationalist after a couple of years

This is a very common path for people (insert any other e-celeb in Sargon's place). That's why I hate these retards who spend their time actively trying to tear down alt-lite figures. Those figures actually facilitate the growth of ethnonationalism, even if that is not their intent.

>nu/pol/ watches Sargon of Mossad
>Uh, no. Civic nationalists expect full integration into society
Fucking based!

>Useful as overton window
The window doesn't slide when you push a position closest to the center of it, it slides when you push the position outside of it (to whichever side you prefer).

By pushing the position closest to the center, you're only helping the people pushing the position on the other side of your position.

And when the high IQ Islamic migrant population produces children, they will regress to the mean and have inadequate IQ to assimilate.
Believe me, they WILL exercise their fantasies and won't be able to integrate.
This is why the ethnostate is such a vital component to the future of western civilisation.

Are /ex-yu/ threads still around?

>we value people based on their contribution to society
Then there is no point in society. People who "contribute to society" will have it good regardless. Why even have a society if you're not going to value every one of its members? It's just a pyramid scam then.

It's hypocrisy. I'll never stand for it. Full-blown Soviet socialism or Libertarian cyberpunk dystopia are preferable to this mockery. Identity isn't something to be manufactured by some contemprary schmucks who think they got it all figured out. Fuck them.

It's for fags and niggers

YEAH, identity is ________________

As long everyone is Christian and not to many minorities then there is no problem. Like 1950s

Let's take central and south america for example. All of those countries are pro marxism, pro big government. Do you really think coming to the USA will magically change that? Also the guy who blew up the concert in Manchester yesterday was born in the UK and apparently well integrated.

Who said I was watching Sargon? I said he was a useful idiot. Hardly a compliment.

An identity is chiefly determined by social variables, such as the mentality of your peers, the quality of your home and society. It's nothing some asshole in a university can examine and modify. You can only influence it by building a good state. Noone will ever build a good state without a genuine racial agenda.