What happened to the internet? Why people don't care about privacy anymore?

What happened to the internet? Why people don't care about privacy anymore?

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Millineals grew up without it and have no idea what it is. We told you this would happen twenty years ago. We were called ludites and paranoid crazies.

>We are called ludites and paranoid crazies.
fixed it

>millennials grew up without it

except we're literally the first generation to grow up with the internet, faggot

I think he's talking about the late 20-something trendies who started to use the internet with the rise of Facebook and the iPhone and could barely open word before that

>Why people don't care about privacy anymore?

Because it's gone?

It's retarded because anonymous trolls still gonna anonymous, but now it's normies' real reputation and name that are at risk of harm, rather than a throwaway handle.

This is the reason for vastly different views on online harrassment and trolling - it's a lot harder to change your Googletm real name. You're stuck with your shitty reputation forever.

>We told you this would happen twenty years ago.
conservative politics in a nutshell.

I think he means privacy, not the internet. As in you're the first generation to grow up with social media in full swing so the idea of not voyeuristically exposing your life online is alien and strange.

Speak for yourself. I never bought into social media. No facebook/twatter/myspace any of that shit.

>We were called ludites and paranoid crazies.

Nah, they just called me un-American.

I'm the one who believes in liberty, who's really un-American here?

>Speak for yourself. I never bought into social media. No facebook/twatter/myspace any of that shit.

Doesn't matter, you still have a footprint profile based on an approximation of your identity.

social media

If I google my name, a few things show up. I miss the old days when we spent hours thinking about a good username. Now we are in the Illuminati's catalog.

I block ads and web beacons, use Self-Destructing Cookies, user agent switcher, regularly change IP addresses, and several other methods to confound efforts to construct a coherent profile based on my browsing activity. I'm sure it's not perfect but I think it's enough to thwart anyone that isn't a three letter government agency.

>Not scrubbing the net from every last bit of yourself
Pathetic, go back to where you came from

What's wrong? are you afraid everyone will find out you're a racist or something?

Yeah, I used to do all that shit and more.

These days I want them to know.

What DNS are you using? Are you using noscript? Are you using windows 10?

There's no such thing as security through obscurity any more, you just have to generate as much fake traffic as you can, and drown yourself out.

>you just have to generate as much fake traffic as you can, and drown yourself out.

The best way to defeat it these days is disinfo, false positives, negatives, etc.

Feels good to have nothing with my name on it. I'm glad I grew up with IRC and usernames.

exactly what they call us flat earthers right now!

I used to change handles every year too.

Haven't done that in years now.

$$$

Noscript was too much of a pain for me. Got tired of having to unbreak every site I wanted to use. I use Linux.

Honestly don't really care if marketers put together some generic anonymous profile or whatever. I mainly care that it isn't traceable to me as a person, and as I don't use my real info online outside of secure sites like banking, I'm pretty confident that I'm anonymous in the ways that matter.

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Nah I don't really care about it, they are just exam results of some public jobs applications. But once I googled the name of a highschool friend and found out he was in jail. So its concerning.

My 6 month old twitter account just got locked, been memeing all day about the mudslims.

Now they want me phone number, get fucked.

Maybe I overreacted, but nevertheless, feels good having no real name - internet connection and enough suckpuppets for a live time and more.

Most of us here probably grew up when the internet was "serious business" and when things were done for the lulz.

Now everything people do has the intent to gain attention or validation, which is why they put their name on everything.

I think thats why the boards are so powerful, because most people here don't need recognition and acts as a collective.

>he doesn't have 4 burners on hand

>using your real name on your google account
>putting your real name on the internet, ever

The nice thing about data is that its value drops off exponentially with every passing day that it isn't updated. Any one of us, at any time, could unplug from the Internet. Within a week or two, their information about our stupid interests and hobbies would begin to be obsolete. Within a few months, their information about our social lives starts to become irrelevant. Within a year, maybe two, they don't even have an up-to-date place of residence for half the population anymore. The only long-term data that remains relevant is basic information like our name and date of birth, which anyone could have found out easily before the Internet existed.

Google/Facebook/Apple (and later Microsoft) figured out they could make a trillion dollars going balls-out with the surveillance and personal data hoarding, and everyone went along with it because it was the only way to feed their social media addiction.

If kids want to give up their privacy, then I don't care. That just means more stolen nudes and facebook snuff videos for me.

The internet's best days are behind it, but at least I was around for the good years. Hopefully the free porn will last a while longer, but if not I've got a few TB saved that hopefully will last me.

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Cool fantasy, bro. None of us can afford to "unplug" from the internet, and even if we could, we're still leaking information from our financial records, from the social networks of others, from any travel outside of our countries. We're just not living on that planet anymore.

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I happen to use my full name it just so happens to be wyatt shekelman

>financial records
Typically banks don't send your financial records to social media companies.

>the social networks of others
This depends on who you socialize with. If you have lots of friends who post your pictures to social media against your wishes, maybe you need new friends.

I think you think I was talking about staying anonymous with respect to governments. I wasn't, and that's barely possible. I was talking about private companies. It's actually not difficult at all to cut them off from information about you.

If I can't find myself on the internet, does that mean I've done well anons?

Your ISP is free to sell your data to whomever it wants. Of course it's possible to stop private companies from spying on you (except for facial recognition, which is used to track your "interest" in products) by never using the internet, never buying anything with a card, and giving up using a mobile phone, but the reality is that NOBODY would ever do this.

> None of us can afford to "unplug" from the internet

We could, but that would hamper our learning capabilities.

That's not tolerable, for me.

You have to go deeper.

Haveibeenpwned.com can tell you if your email and password has ever been leaked online.

Worse than that, you'd practically be disabled.

Paradigm shift
From "Keep all your important information private" to "Make so much useless information that it will be hard to find useful, important bits"
On the other hand, Google is using this to make sure you make as much information available to them as possible, so they can keep selling adspace that a good 20% will never even load

>Worse than that, you'd practically be disabled.

I can still connect to people without it, but it's a bitch comparatively.

>Your ISP is free to sell your data to whomever it wants.
Yeah I guess, except in countries with rule of law (America and ex-commie shitholes need not apply).

>NOBODY would ever do this
Most people over 70 do this. If they can get by just fine, why can't everybody? The problems we have now with privacy are 100% a choice by the individual as well as a reflection of the culture. It could be stopped overnight very easily.

Connect to other people how? Connect to the people in your immediate local area face to face only? How do you communicate with the government when 100% of services are online? How do you make a doctor's appointment, when they store your info on a "cloud"? How do you find anything out, when libraries are being closed across the western world, because of lack of interest?

I dare you to do a week.

>Typically banks don't send your financial records to social media companies.

While banks don't, credit card companies certainly do.

"Google says it has access to roughly 70% of U.S. credit and debit card transactions through partnerships with companies that track that data."

latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-google-ads-tracking-20170523-story.html

Why should it matter if someone is a racist? Why do people have to like everything other people say they should? Wouldn't it be better if people were more open about being racist, then you would know which neighbors not to visit or ask to watch your plants

>I dare you to do a week.

I've done 3.

I'm good on that.

>Most people over 70 do this

Is that really true in Canada? Here, every person I know over 70 has minimum a smart phone, and usually a laptop that they use daily for email and skype.

Surprise! You're on the blacklist. The jew controls the government, and you're out of a job forever, for some dumb shit you posted when you were 14, or even by association with the retards amongst whom you're currently posting.

NSA wouldn't listen (the fucking irony), tired of beating a dead horse. wise up or don't, your choice at this point.

>Surprise! You're on the blacklist.

For pontificating?

How many have to die for this right to be won for good?

Every few centuries it's the same shit.

That's really interesting. I already knew that offline purchases could theoretically be matched with your online search activities so long as the search engine and the retailer or credit card company agreed to share data, and now I see this is happening.

As a rule of thumb, I generally don't search for products on Google; I go straight to the retailer's website and use their built-in search engine. Now, maybe this search engine is powered by Google, but most of the time with bigger retailers, they're not.

because they assume they'll never be wanted for police questioning.

Same as the soviets who went along to the gulag willingly.

youtube.com/watch?v=gsNaR6FRuO0

Every day I wish we could go back.

>Here, every person I know over 70 has minimum a smart phone, and usually a laptop that they use daily for email and skype.

That sounds like a steaming pile of bs. Even so, maybe it's not. Your anecdote is unverifiable and perhaps crazy enough to be true. Regardless, the data from 2016 suggests that daily Internet usage in Poland is among the lowest in the EU for the general population, and I'll hazard a guess that for your elderly, it's even lower.

>In the EU, 71 % of all individuals used the internet every day or almost every day. The share of daily users was the highest in Luxembourg (93 %), followed by Denmark (89 %), the United Kingdom (88 %), the Netherlands (86 %), Sweden and Finland (85 % each). Shares lower than 60 % occurred in Greece and Poland (57 % each), Bulgaria (49 %) and Romania (42 %).
ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Internet_access_and_use_statistics_-_households_and_individuals

>stats from 2010
Good job. Try 75% daily.

Are you blind? Or just a bored American shitposter behind a proxy?

that would be the EARLY 20 somethings, yes?

tfw old

I read the government data - your stats are based on a voluntary household survey. If mass surveillence is good for anything, it can certainly give us a better picture of internet penetration in Poland.

>Connect to other people how? Connect to the people in your immediate local area face to face only?

A guy has to have a certain level of mystique.

>How do you communicate with the government when 100% of services are online?

Why would I?

> How do you make a doctor's appointment, when they store your info on a "cloud"?

I haven't dealt with doctors since they dropped my case when they couldn't figure out what was wrong with my thyroid.

>How do you find anything out, when libraries are being closed across the western world, because of lack of interest?

That's what I was saying, user.

It's the lack of learning that is the crux of it, for me.

I'm an early 20-something (20 to be exact) and I grew up compiling Linux for my dreamcast and fucking around in CLI on that.
>grandpa shows off his senility again

>couldn't figure out what was wrong with my thyroid.

Lol'd hard, cryptolard.

Nah, it was when I was playing soccer in high school.

I was running 4-5 miles every day.

I tested both hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism, on several occasions.

I started my Internet surfing in Yahoo chat ((sniff)) Learned about proxies and cracking passes to xxx sites. Used proxies for years then said the hell with it. I'm an open book lol

Waiting for images to load? I'd rather not have internet at all.

Your a fucking liar, you would've been 4 years old when you got your dreamcast.

The first consol you played was probably a ps2 or a GC

((free)) proxies are worse than clearnet. They are literally recording everything you do and storing it all in a folder labelled "Valuable blackmail material"

Good jaaahb.

I'd rather that than the nightmare we have now.

>that would hamper our learning capabilities.
What did it meant by this ?

>he buys his consoles immediately after they come out

no

Autism. He thinks of himself as some kind of ubermensch that is constantly improving himself using the resources avaliable to him online, while simultaneously posting on the second-worst board of the worst chan on the internet he claims not to need.

No, i mean how does not clicking on like kikebook makes you unable to pirate books and converse with people and stuff ?
What did it meant by "learning", and what did it meant by "capabilities" ?

yeah now, not in 1998 - 05

The whole thread is discussing the fact that just avoiding kikebook won't save you from endless tracking. He suggested that you could make their tracking useless by quitting the internet for a year or two. Except his "learning" is too important.

Nope. I used to run one back in the day to get passwords. Admittedly, data storage was more expensive then, but if you can sell it, it's worth the money.

Late 20-something are in prime position to have grown up with the Internet since it starting becoming widespread in the mid-late 90s. You know, people around moot's age.

If you're ~35+, you missed out on a lot of early social mediia and chat content from ICQ, to AIM, MSN Messenger, forums, etc. Unless you were a meganerd.

>people around moot's age
those are minority. 100% minority.

that is what user was referring to, the people who grew up parallel to the internet anons. the lost generation who only know internet through smartphones and microsoft office

Maybe in bumfuck parts of the USA that only just have electricity.

>How many have to die for this right to be won for good?
~2 million