Why do you still worship a dead socialist kike Sup Forums?

being conservative and being christian are incompatible. jesus was a commie kike sand nigger

Socialism is redistribution, Jesus would not have believed forced charity is genuine charity. Therefore, Jesus could not have possibly been a socialist.

He was a mutualist.

catholicism is basically just paganism with a christian mask on it anyway

Jesus advocated turning the other cheek and "loving your enemy."

I don't know how these supposedly Christian retards are gun-toting hate-mongers, but I don't think they're readers, most of them.

Do any christians privately feel embarrassed about the fact that they, even as grown adults, still have an imaginary friend, and that the reason is that they do not have the courage to face their own mortality?

It's ok, you can be honest here. It's an anonymous board. Would any christians like to admit the truth?

The Preachers brainwash them into voting for right wing policies so they can get nice tax breaks.

No, because that's not what God is and strawmanning it like that is only embarrassing me vicariously through you.

God's true name is in exodus 3:14 and tells you everything you need to know about it.

His dad promised free housing for dead souls that were on the list

>Mutualist
>Not a socialist

>commie kike
>only share voluntary and not by compulsion

I was not describing a god (not sure which one you mean, as there are 1000s). I was describing christians.

Who do you worship?

Fine, Marxist socialism then, which today has its tentacles in every branch of socialism. People already know you can't get more egalitarian than a relatively contemporary legal system sans the protected classes part. That's from Marxism, it is class warfare applied to non-economic demographics. That makes it evil.

There could only be one pantheistic god.

>Marxist socialism then
Christianity and Marxism are the same thing.

Karl Marx specifically took the same exact thing and removed the obviously absent 'creator deity'.

>There could only be one pantheistic god.

Or none. There could be none.

Karl Marx and Frederick Engels created a violent ideology that preys on working class resentment towards people who had more, which in those days actually was completely and utterly unearned.

There is literally nothing Christian about envy.

Then the universe is a dead cold place and your consciousness is an illusion. You are then already in hell.

> "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist."
t. Helder Camara

Notice the difference? The Christians don't ask retarded question.

>Then the universe is a dead cold place and your consciousness is an illusion. You are then already in hell.

So you openly admit that your faith is fear-based. Your honesty is impressive and admirable.

>that preys on working class resentment towards people who had more
Yep. Exactly how Christianity works.

Incites the working masses against the "decadent hedonistic sinners", aka philosophers, merchants, landowners, etc.

>Notice the difference?
Not really. Christianity, especially in ancient rome, used charity to whip up mobs to desecrate pagan temples and loot classical cities. The Christian graffiti is still there.

They're Marxists. Just ask Mr. Francis.

Come home white man.

Simply how I wished to argue, I know I can't convince you so why would you expect me to try? Do you want to tease me, is that what this is?

If I cared I'd have reminded you that your consciousness does exist and it arose naturally from the laws of the universe, this means whatever logic is behind it is intrinsically connected to you. You are a part of the universe perceiving the universe.

The fact that this doesn't conflict with the core beliefs about God in judeochristian beliefs is mind blowing. I'm sorry it's not something you're open to experiencing.

Hardly.

Literally free love up until it gets you killed, the trick is when this gets old the people doing the killing look really, really bad.

There is no difference.

i dont. if your a christian you should worship god not jesus. if you think god is jesus you havent read the book

make like a jew and get the fuck off my board

>Literally free love
Riiiight. You somehow after thousands of years of objective proof otherwise believe THAT's what Christianity is about?

There's this thing called "hypocrisy", you know. Where you say you're doing what you're not doing.

>Giving money to the poor in order to gain political leverage is Marxism
>Giving money to the poor in order to gain political leverage was brought to ancient Rome by Christianity
You can't see the difference between charity and the desire to create an earthly paradise?

It is hypocritical. It is Christian blood being spilled to create narratives that help the Christian cause, it is literally blood magic. But it works because you feed too many Christians to the lions and meet too many Christians who smile too much, then you're not going to believe the games organisers are very decent people.

In a proto-fascist state fuelled by image this is disastrous. That being said, it's fairly difficult to maintain militarism after you've accepted a pacifist theology into the upper echelons of your society. They were fucked anyway.

When I post about early Christianity and you post late Christianity, do you not feel really fucking dumb?

>I know I can't convince you so why would you expect me to try?

Sure you can convince me. The scientific method is the only game in town. It is the very reason your quality of life and your life-expectancy is so vastly superior to your fellow christians of centuries past. And at the core of the scientific method is evidence. When you present credible evidence for your favourite god, I will become a theist. But not before that day.

Sadly for the christian, and for every other theist, the sum total of evidence for every god ever fabricated, after a search involving billions of people spanning thousands of years..........................................is zero.

Zero.

>dead
thats where you are wrong

You actually believe repeating "science" is convincing? Good work, you just gave yourself a new God, a 7 letter word.

Seriously dude, fuck off.

btw your post is an appeal to authority :^)

>But it works because you feed too many Christians to the lions
No, what happens is the corrupt politicians who want to exploit Christianity to dominate the poor promote the narrative of "martydom".

Christians objectively slaughtered every classical culture. How did they get away with it? "More killing!"

Now you believe they're just great. Why? "They killed all their critics!" Beginning to see the strategy? Same reason Islam exists. It does the same thing, only to Christians. BAM. Islamic Turkey. Got a problem with it? "Convert or die."

myself. god is within everyone

I am what I am and you are what you are, brother.

>You actually believe repeating "science" is convincing?
Actually, I would say we're pretty sure almost nothing will convince a fully brainwashed cult member. They have 'deprogramming' services for even smaller alien mothership cults.

If you don't accept the sanctity of evidence and the humility of research, it is your own detriment.

Of course I do, which is why I prefer a religion that views the wider universe as sacred and the act of studying it as sacred. Pantheism could be used to be extremely pro-science, my you could almost call me a technocrat!

But pretending you've won an argument against me by repeating the word science is dishonest.

i thought this was trolling but you really are this stupid arent you.

>by repeating the word science
>Pantheism
Little problem there in the whole 'scientific skepticism' thing.

That is, theories aren't considered true until proven true. As in, they make good predictions.

"Theism" is purely masturbatory. It makes no usable predictions.

The scientific method is the reason that the internet exists and that you own a device on which to communicate.

Your anger should prompt you to think about what triggered that anger. It is probably fear.

Requesting that theists produce evidence for their claims is not an appeal to authority.

>i thought this was trolling but you really are this stupid arent you.
Well you know, if you just make a comment like that without rebuttal, it's a bit silly of you.

You should hardly be calling other people "stupid", you know?

>Requesting that theists produce evidence for their claims is not an appeal to authority.
To be honest Aus, I'm not sure they can.

They just have an animistic theory where they believe there must be some kind of creature behind it all. They can say that ad infinitum, and they don't ever consider that to be a waste of time.

>evidence

I want a honest answer out of this question.

What if the gods are evil and thus hide the evidence and the only way out is a particularly hidden religion that's hard to understand and practice like gnosticism?

It baffles me how no atheist has ever considered this, that the evidnce may be denied so you don't escape.

>It baffles me how no atheist has ever considered this
They have. It's the same question as:
"What if the world is a puzzle box, and the only people who are saved are the ones who do exactly the right ritual dance, but the puzzle box maker made it hard to figure out the moves?"

It's just an irrelevant time wasting question.

The evidence indicates that humans created the concept of deities to explain the natural world, then got socially tied up in it.

>It's just an irrelevant time wasting question.

No it isn't, you only have a 50% (pure) chance of the gods being benevolent if they exist.

The existence of gnosticism makes ridicule your notion that men created gods, for gonsticism opposes these gods and seeks a hidden one. Gnosticism also ridicules any atheistic belief because to practice it you absolutely 100% need spiritual experiences.

>if they exist
But they don't exist. It is all a fantasy of tribal humans who didn't know where lighting came from.

You can certainly waste your time searching for
'magic creatures', but a waste it is nonetheless.

>It is all a fantasy

I have seen no proof of this statement, I have observed personal experiences that say the opposite.

>you only have a 50% (pure) chance of the gods being benevolent if they exist.

How did you reach this conclusion?

Did you survey a statistically significant number of gods and found that 50% were benevolent?

Burger is right. Christian ethics are beta left.

Either they are benevolent or they are not, it's a pure 50%

>I have seen no proof of this statement
Of course not. Because you cannot see proof of it, like every other religious cultist.

You have removed your capability to see the truth by virtue of clinging to tribal fantasies. The forest for the trees.

If 'gnosticism' were right, why would such "evil deities" let you know about it at all? It's obvious nonsense.

>If 'gnosticism' were right, why would such "evil deities" let you know about it at all?

For some reason most of what we know about gnosticism is a few leftover old documents because gnostics were murdered and tortured.

Escape what?
So a God that makes himself unknown and has no influence on the universe but expects us to worship him?
Is this what you are saying?

Actually he gives gnosis, which helps escape.

There must be no evidence that any gods out there are evil, now allow me to show you a picture of my firstborn.

>For some reason most of what we know about gnosticism is a few leftover old documents because gnostics were murdered and tortured.
By humans. Just like every other sect deemed 'heretical'.

However, if their opponents were 'divine' in nature, surely a full purgation would have happened? Better, why would they exist in the first place?

Why would a fully 'evil' deity give you any chance of 'escape' at all? It would only be an illusion.

Perhaps it is best simply not to play that game. There is more to discover in the usable physical universe.

My baby was deformed by humans? :c

Reminder that the face in OPs png was recreated as being a typical biblical jew.
And it is certainly true that this slack jawed vacant eyed Neanderthal is indeed the typical jew as even seen today.

Stop fucking your sister nigga

>why would they exist in the first place?

Are you saying that when there are many gods nothing exists if they disagree?

As usual atheists are retarded.

>surely a full purgation would have happened?

You mean like, no one surviving?

>My baby was deformed by humans?
Objectively, yes.

If you add teratogens to frog embryos, they come out similarly deformed.

As you cannot prove 'divinity' as opposed to 'mutation' or 'poison', your claim is of course invalid.

Explain how come I experienced gnosis.

>Explain how come I experienced gnosis.
I don't know you personally, but people can experience a wide range of things, usually with the aid of drugs.

Ask yourself: Can you do something materially useful with your realization, like feed the hungry? Or are you simply waiting for death, like all the other religions?

Why would I want to feed the hungry?

>bcus you need to b gud

No, why?

>the commandments

What commandments?

>are you simply waiting for death

I don't need to wait for death for some pesky judgement, I've already earned heaven.

That's what gnosis does.

Looks like a darker version of Bud Spencer.
Does that mean that Terence Hill was Judas?
That'd be a great fucking movie.

>No, why?
Because if you don't eat, you'll die.

You said feed the hungry, as if I was obliged to walk the globe presenting everybody with food like they were my work or something.

Sup Forums is getting flooded of reddit atheist
Remember that you can ask God to manifest Himself to you any time

>You said feed the hungry, as if I was obliged to walk the globe
No, I said "could".

If your realization cannot materialize food to feed the hungry, consider its worth in reality.

Meanwhile, science has agriculture.

But we hate the people of the world, why would we feed them?

>science

You're not a scientist

>You're not a scientist
Oh?

>But we hate the people of the world
I don't. And you do not hate yourself, or you would not persist in living.

Christos not a kike you goddam repeat thread golem ashkenazi
>youre a fucking mongol literally
KYS get BTFO and saged

>Oh?

You're a leech, you stick yourself to science without contributing to it to attack people who want to advance spiritually (which is also an advancement) therefore becoming a parasite of no benefit, not only you hinder the progress of science by stating what should it or not research and what is and isn't scientific but you also impede progress in other areas like spirituality, end yourself you civilization destroying leech.

>you stick yourself to science without contributing to it
It's interesting that you would make such a claim. It is proof to me that you have no special knowledge.

But by your statements here , you indicated that you should not care.

Jesus was a radical, many people seem to forget why he got crucified in the first place. I wonder if today's christians would do the same if he came back

>I wonder if today's christians would do the same if he came back
Of course. They are the same people who did it.

>you have no special knowledge

Gnosis is merely knowing god personally and experiencing him within, I have this knowledge.

>being conservative and being christian are incompatible
It is in the jewnited states of america, the ultimate jewish golem.

>you indicated that you should not care

However you do, merely informing you of what a parasite you are.

They're that morally retarded, they need a book to tell them to be nice. I'm grateful of the bible. If it wasn't for the jewble, the godniggers wouldn't be able to control themselves. They're like naughty children. Will only behave out of fear of (eternal) punishment. It's totally pathetic for someone from the western world to need such a thing. But these cucks need it for everyone else's sake.

>However you do, merely informing you of what a parasite you are.
That proves you care enough to inform others, doesn't it? Why would you say anything to another person if you didn't care?

I am not impressed by your desire to get at me from any vantage point that only exists in your mind.

To me you're merely a marionette of the demiurge, so that's how much i truly care, if you aren't one of us, you're better of dead.

...

>merely a marionette of the demiurge
And yet you still have the will to talk to others. It is a curious belief.

Do you like the Gospel of Thomas?

>you still have the will to talk to others

It's called entertainment.

>It's called entertainment.
Which you should have no use for, as it is supposed to be a creation of the demiurge.

I find that humans merely look for things to make themselves feel more powerful. 'Secret knowledge', 'divine allegiance', but it all amounts to nothing in the end.

Do not speak of religions you do not practice nor know about, it's already bad enough with the other freaks of the demiurge who roleplay.

>they need a book to tell them to be nice
Why should you be nice if life has no meaning? It's you who is morally retarded , because you just run on innertia, and don't think about morality at all.

So by your logic we shouldn't criticise Islam. Sjw 101

>Do not speak of religions you do not practice nor know about
I don't practice any, and do know about many.

And in that, I know that they are all false. Granting of no real power nor insight.

You don't have a path behind the curtain of Plato's Cave, nor a line to Plotinus' version of 'nirvana'.

'Religion' itself is a roleplay for the people to waste their time upon.

I don't

The "Christianity is jus muh socialism" meme again.

Quite the contrary. The most that could be said for that case is that the Bible is against the love of money, and that to show compassion for the poor is to gain the favor of God both in this world and the next. Those two things hardly mean muh 1% is 2 rich, or wealth redistribution by the state.

You're just a retard who thinks himself smart because of the conclussions he has gotten to, in doing that you do falsely because you willingly and knowlingly work for the devil.

Read Platos "The Republic" and other Greek philosophers and you'll find that Socialist ideas long predate Christianity and have developed before any notable jewish influence.
The Republic in particular is a dystopian nightmare of an ideal society, I really have to wonder how Plato could believe that such a slave colony would have been a positive thing.
But on the other hand, I didn't live in Greece at the time, who knows what he was comparing it to.

>who thinks himself smart because of the conclussions he has gotten to
Isn't that why everyone would consider themselves 'intelligent'?

And why isn't it you who willingly works for the trickster, knowingly leading people into useless religions that waste their time and lives?

And defend it by saying you "don't care about people"!

>Jesus would not have believed forced charity
>"Gibs me dat or go to hell forever"
>not forced charity

>And why isn't it you who willingly works for the trickster

There's a fun story behind this one.

When I received my gnosis and started seeking religions the people of my surroundings started testing me with every religion I was reading on and testing, if I was reading into hindu religions they would try to have me do bad hindu stuff, if I was reading the bible, they would try to make me sin in a christian way.

Why did people react like this to my believing and seeking?

>Why did people react like this to my believing and seeking?
Humans like trying to get people to do things they don't want to do. It's a pretty common control fetish.

But I will say that eating pork isn't particularly bad in moderation.

>be young
>fuck god amirite? le jew on a stick, le imaginary friend
>old, about to die
>Please God help

>Humans like trying to get people to do things they don't want to do.

And this includes threatening me in a mental hospital to accept the devil or be declared insane?

Why do you love jews so much?