It's time for us to put our differences aside (((They))) and especially our media is trying to pit us against each other, we should move towards further cooperation and seek join the Visegrad block together.
We aren't the same nation or the same country, we don't have the same language, however we unquestionably share a common herritage and a lot of history, our nations should be working together not fighting amongst ourselves.
Austrians hate us, Italiashits hate us, and they are cucked, Hungary is based but they still don't share as common a history, and you have who Serbians and Kebab to the south of you who were cutting your throats a few decades ago?
We need to stop playing into the paws and look towards cooperation and friendship.
We can either work together as neighbours and friends and stand against the hordes of "peoples" who want to destroy our countries, or we can perrish alone.
>No talking about Border disputes in this thread, we can figure that out once animosity is at a minimum
It'd be easier if you abandoned you heresy and rejoined the original and only valid church of Christ.
Carter Cruz
The fuck are you talking about.
Both Croatians and Slovenians are Catholic
Easton Wilson
*openly collaborates*
Dylan Kelly
fuck off retard this is politics related
Parker Torres
It's Sup Forums and politics related though faggot.
We need to stand together with croats to stop the hordes of muslims trying to come into our country
Parker Kelly
Why do you care Brazil?
You aren't diaspora, are you?
Xavier Stewart
i am desu
Jaxon Foster
Slovene or Croatian?
Either way come home. What the fuck are you doing in Brazil?
Ayden Gomez
Well actually I was born here. My father hails from Croatia.
I'm mostly shitposting around here.
Brayden White
It's a shithole though, if you speak the language why not move home to Croatia?
Like I spoke to a Canadian Croatian, spoke Croatian well, etc living in a Croatian community in Canada.
Like I get why some one from Canada or the US would stay there because of higher living standards and better pay, but Brazil is a legitimate shithole, I just don't understand.
>This is assuming you aren't half mestizo, then stay where you are
Michael Ramirez
100% white. My mother is from northern Italy. I also live in one of the few white rich cities to the south I'm trying to learn the language tho and I have my Italian citizenship to run if shit goes down
Hudson Gonzalez
>100% white >Brazil
In your dreams, monkeyman.
Charles Ortiz
I looked it up apparently the average White Brazillian is 85.6% European which is essentially half of the country in terms of genetics, make of that what you will.
Carson Walker
Well, have a bump. Interested to see what discussions could come from this thread
Parker Reyes
koj ve je va dretva? si ponorel? janezi proč
Austin Hill
Your flag is your burden. I know how it is
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Hudson Richardson
Do still girls on croatian beaches are nude?
I've been there 10 years ago and it was sweet, boobs everywhere, and somewhere even pussies.
Bonus mode: nude girls taking showers outside
John Powell
Yes, I've seen many croatian beaches, quite a few of them have nudist bitches on them.
Lucas Hall
didn't even know they were feeding us media against you, I never had anything against Slovenia
Kevin King
Slovenia and Croatia are the only good Balkan countries. I've visited every goddamn country on the Balkan except for Macedonia and they are simply the best.
But why?
Jackson Gonzalez
THIS x1000
Brandon Collins
Slovenia and Croatia in the Višegrad group when?
Zachary Reyes
>nudist beaches
Wait, hold on. Are Croats Germanic aswell? How did they end up with nudist beaches - too many German tourists?
Adam Bell
Not getting tainted our genes by the Turks?
And a different culture. North Croatia is very much akin to Slovenia, Dalmatia a bit less soo.
I think this map is pretty explanatory, it pretty much has to do with how repressed the country was by the Turks.
Like Croatia is kind of catching up, going even further south they have even more catching up to do.
These are literacy rates in Yugoslavia after WWI
Ryan Hill
we had German slangs before but they're mostly vanished by now
Leo Ortiz
Better pic
Benjamin Smith
We must together cooperate against refugee quota and how to get rid of communists from universities and media. There must be a shared experiance.
Liam Rivera
it's more like it's totally normal for women to be nude on croatian beach
Angel Stewart
That was after unification with Serbia. Today it is a bit different. But yes, a lot of the north have common with Slovenia.
Benjamin White
Matjaž Kek for Croatian national team selector.
Wyatt Diaz
These are PISA scores from 2015, although it's been over 100 years since Austia-Hungary ended there is still a noticable difference between Croatia and Slovenia, and I don't necessarily think it's because our genetic stock is that superior, I think it has to do with the fact that our lands had better access to education and it just carries over to today.
FYI I think if you were to take a look at the Zagreb area, Slavonija (Northern Croatia) and ignore Dalmatia PISA scores between us would probably be pretty similar.
I do have a theory Dalmatians have a bit more Turkish admixture and hence a bit lower Intelligence, whereas Northern Croatia is pretty light skined in comparison
Brandon Myers
Yes of course, it is. I'm not denying this have gotten better, and I wish you the best of luck, but in terms of education we seem to still be doing a lot better
see But I do honestly think if you were to compare Zagreb and Ljubljana the differences would be almost 0. I think the problem is the Dalmatian area of Croatia.
James Mitchell
>austrians hate us
kek, literally one of your only allies.
Chase Long
Iliteracy corespondts with serb inhabited area in Croatia,since there were a lot of Serbs before 1995.
Alexander Russell
When?
Lucas Williams
bump for more info about both countries
William Foster
Based slovenian master race
There is difference betwenn the dalmatian hinterland (Dalmatinska Zagora) and the Islands and coast. The later was a lot more under Venetian influence. The former was more under the Ottomans. Consider also during A-U Dalmatia was building its own unit.
Also, consider the
Kayden Reed
Yeah I laughed when I saw in the news
Praise kek
Isaac Rodriguez
What are you interested in? Also, we wish in the Visegrad group.
Jacob Gutierrez
Croats get pissed off when I say this, but I honestly think genetically speaking (and culturally) northern Croatia has more in common with Slovenia than Dalmatia.
Like shit happens that's how history happened and borders were drawn, but that's my opinion.
I'm not saying muh clay btw, because neither Croatia has claim to Slovene clay or us to Northern Croatia, just an observation.
My half brother is Slovene-Croatian, white as fuck, looks ubermensch even, if his mother was Dalmatian he'd be somewhat brown.
Christian Wood
>not walling off pooland, czechia and slovakia
slavshit pls
Daniel Anderson
Don't build anti-gypsy wall, they'll steal it overnight. Put them in work camps, work is natural deterrent to them.
Connor Roberts
No sorry, what we need to do is wall out Germany and Italy, maybe Austria, but I'm not 100% sure about that.
Here you go
Dominic Butler
slovenia is trying to steal croatian waters though desu
Jaxson Gonzalez
This seems like a Slovenian trick to cheat us from our money.
Dominic Taylor
You can cover the Alps and north Adriatic sea (damm Venice and Italians) with your fleet and army, we can cover mid Adriatic sea and when Montenegro enters NATO they will cover south part (we are supplying them with military equipment anyway).
Fine by me.
Daniel Martinez
Pic related should be the goal imho,
With or without Austria, but the general idea, can wall out Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia possibly
Landon Adams
>Dalmatians are brown
Well, not that it is bothering me. I personally did not noticed any difference but maybe it is just me.
It has also to do Dalmatia is a sunny region. The islands have more sunny days than some many continental countries.
I would also not say that Dalmatia is necesarly backward. In the 16th century it was in fact economically and culturally rich. You could find a lot of buildings from the renaisance and baroque period.
Croatian literature also stared in Dalmatia. There was a lot writers from that period. Contrary to northern Croatia where the first printed book is from the 17th century.
The things that fucked up Dalmatia were the Turks. So the focus was moved to the North.
Recently I was in Ljubljana for first time. There is a part called Šiška. Some Soros NGOs were having meetings there.
Mason Watson
Nope, look the V4 thread. Croatian and Slovenian alliance is essential to counter the refugee quotas and other EU bullshitery.
Michael Flores
Damn, was just about to draw the exact same line. Northern Italy is still fine though.
Julian Morris
Yes.
I don't really understand this animosity between us, I mean I don't consider myself Croatian I never have never will, but I do consider Croatians to be brothers, much more than anyone else.
I guess Croatians and most Slovenians don't feel the same way? I don't feel the same about any other nation.
This propaganda between our nations is so retarded, we are your true brothers, not fucking Serbs.
Bentley Brown
Slovenia should annex austrian Koruška and Trst.
Elijah Johnson
>Hungary is based but they still don't share as common a history
You were literally part of our country for almost a 1000, are you on crack or crystal meth?
Joshua Wood
They are bluepilled as fuck, that's the problem.
Economically stable, but they are the bluepilled part of italy. If there was some kind of Cultural shift, and Northern and Southern Italy split, Northern Italy cleansed it's streets a bit, I wouldn't mind, but how they are currently.
TERRIBLE idea.
Jacob Mitchell
It's funny how your politicians make us look like Jews and ours make you loke like them. It's our politicians who divide us.
Ryder Mitchell
Thanks senpai, we can figure that out once their countries become shit and unstable, we can start reconquista from behind our comfy walls.
We will help clear out Bosnia for you to resettle just let us build some condos in Sarajevo once it's cleansed
Aaron Johnson
The croats were, not the slovenes. They were part of austria for more than 1500 years
Carson Rogers
>What are you interested in? What are some interestic political trends, which party is the best? - we usually hear something about Croatia when there is some meeting in which your president participates, aside from that the only topic that was widely covered here was that referendum about marriage, years ago. OK, there is some info related to Croatia as a tourist destination each year, but nothing political, which is ridiculous, since learning Slavic languages should be obligatory for people aspiring to become international journalists.
Nolan Fisher
Yes but we were more under Austrians and had little to nothing to do with you.
Mason Ross
Are you Slavic, no?
Look I put you inside the wall didn't I Stop being butthurt, Slovenian and Croatian cooperated is literally predicated on joining V4 at some point.
If you think Croatia and Hungary have more in common than Slovenia and Croatia, you're just wrong.
Nathan Robinson
good, more faggots to genocide
Grayson Watson
He is referring to Austria Hungary, and a small part of Slovenia, Prekmurje was administered by Hungary.
Easton Stewart
>interestic interesting, sry
Nathaniel Robinson
This triggers the jew.
Adrian Scott
>Croatia part of Hungary Not true. We werre in personal union with Hungary not part of it (exceptions some regions like Baranja and Međimruje)
Jayden Brown
I think you guys might be talking about different periods.
During Austro-Hungary you were administered by Budapest, were you not?
While you are talking about your union even before that
Landon Mitchell
kajkavians are slovene and not crotian
there, i said it
Aiden Mitchell
UDB has a even tighter grip on Slovenia than it has here, and they run almost everything. Nothing is going to change in our lifetimes, there's not going to be a civilized regime change in this country. We had an opportunity in the 90s but army was too dumb and compromised to consolidate power and overthrow Tuđman.
Grayson White
There's normal white people in south america who aren't being attacked or killed or kidnapped for drug money!!??
David Ramirez
russians are the good guys you noob
Bentley Watson
Even the coastal and island Croats have more in common with Serbs than Slovenes. You're basically Germans who speak a Slavic language.
Not that I have a beef with you or anything, it's just that we're not at all similar.
Culturally, most of Croatia is closest to Serbia, although when it comes to similar histories, the Slovaks should be an even better match.
Kevin Morris
>and seek join the Visegrad block together
Slovenia was already invited back in 2000 but Janša declined because he wanted us to go to EU. Visegrad only calls once and we missed it. Croatia did the same but EU said if they do that they won't be able to join the EU, so they didn't.
Aaron Taylor
> interestic political trends The population of Croatia is mostly red pilled. They are nationalist and ultra catholic. But the political elite is made up from former communists which were installed by George Soros and America in the early 2000s.
We were offered many times to join the Visegrad group but the communists refused.
The anti-gay referendum was organised by a catholic civil organisation which managed to organised and pass it. But the cucked left-wing PM decided to allow civil union as a reaction to the referendum
>parties in Croatia The two biggest are HDZ and SDP.
>HDZ They are the cuckservative party. The leader is a son of former communists. Although that was not always the case.
It was originally found in the 1990s and was strongly nationalist. It was the party that led the war against Serbs and Muslim. It was emphasising that Croatia has more in common with central european Slavs than with Balkanites due to catholic culture.
Than in 2000 after the president died George Soros and Americans installed the cuckservatives.
>SDP Former commies-turned-to-socialdemocrats In the 90s there were the third largest party but after 2000. thanks to foreigner they become the largest opposition
In generally we are fucked. We are ruled by a former communists and liberal oligarchy. Most politicians are agnostics while the population is majority catholic.
Please Poland annex us.
>orinetiation within EU The red pilled and based people prefer the Visegrad group. But the politicians will not listen and instea follow orders from Germany and the EU. Germany and the EU is pushing for the western balkan initiatives which nobody wants, but the ruling elite are pushing for it
Elijah Jackson
I have somewhat optimisim.
80% of people are dissatisfied with their government here, 3rd most than anywhere else in Europe. All that needs to happen is somebody capitalize on that.
I mean as much as I'd like more clay, it's just semantics at this point.
Genetically speaking you are probably right, if the border was drawn so that Kajkavian Croats would be administered by Austrians back in the day, yes I imagine they'd be identifying as Slovenian right now.
Also Kajkavian being very similiar to Slovenian that's true, but it's kind of like crying over spilt milk, it doesn't really matter, Kajkavians and other Croatians developed a joint identity in the last 200 years, you can't really change that imho.
But if we are taking a look at purely genetics and lingustics then, maybe?
Either way it's a pointless argument to be had because things are as they are
Luis Howard
Ah wrong flag, I thought you were a croat.
Sebastian Stewart
Even your capital was established by one of our king lad.
You had some privileges compared to r*manians or sl*vaks, but you were part of Hungary.
Leo Jones
im not talking about any we wuz tier gib clay shit i just want to be recognized as slovene and not croatian because croatians are obviously chakavians people are super ignorant and hostile about it
Carson Rogers
Damn that's heavy shit. I wish the US and russia would do the same. Good luck.
Gabriel Watson
I dunno mate, if I go to a Kajkavian region of Croatia it's almost impossible to tell that I've even left the country, even as far as Slavonia it's not too different.
There's a big difference in Dalmatia obviously.
I don't think you are right, I think that's Yugoslav propaganda, Serbia was seperate from Croats for hundreds of years + we are still geographically closer.
+ From my very humble understanding of linguistics, at some point Slovenian and Croatian were more similar, but after a lot of Serbs resettled there, some of them assimilating your language drifted from ours.
Colton Richardson
>80% of people are dissatisfied with their government here Don't know about Slovenia, but there's no organized opposition here. You have the communist party which branched itself into a pseudo right and social democrats in the 90s. Essentially it's the same shit. There's controlled opposition in the form of smaller right wing parties who together amount to 1% of electorate and some useful idiots here and there.
Benjamin Smith
You're Kajkavian, right?
Well all I can say is tough luck mate, jack shit is going to happen, the best you can hope is to further promote a Kajkavian identity and Croatian second.
I mean I kind of agree, my half brother is half Kajkavian, like you literally could not tell he isn't a 100% Slovenian.
David Collins
completely wrong REAL croatia is similar to ukraine and slovakia because real croatia are chakavian speakers
serb related are slavicized vlachs that unfortunately make up most of this country
Tyler Collins
How do we solve the Serb diaspora question?
They're deeply ingrained into our public sector imo, but I don't know how to clean that shit up without alienating čefurji in the process
Lincoln Collins
Daily reminder that our nations are literally fighting because of these two towns + sea access
Dylan Flores
>Catholic Serbs and Alpine Serbs back together You forgot your long lost beloved brother desu :^)
Adam Phillips
Give us back Fiume, you filthy slavs!
FIUME, ISTRIA E LA DALMAZIA, NE' SLOVENIA NE' CROAZIA.
Isaiah Watson
Weird, right? this map is from 2000, the niggery has spread a bit further to the south but the 3 southern states are still overwhelmingly majority white
Ayden Edwards
such examples are very numberful in croatian case croats have the need to constantly make up history how they actually lived everywhere when they just stole most of their land from their neighbours (not saying that serbs are any better, they probably hung tout together too much)
fags thread form a fag cocksucking sloven. I am ashamed of you OP you fucking faggot cock sucker.
Please open more your ass until the croats steal your seaside and sperm in your mother s pussy.
Fuck off, croats are maggots inbreed ottomans .
Nolan Myers
Serb diaspora?
Fine we can figure that out at some point, can we please focus on the Bosnians first? I have some hope that Serbians are somewhat assimilatable if we cut the stream of more of them.
Luke Wilson
How likely would it be for you to simply leave Brazil? Those 3-4 southern states?
Luke Fisher
Thread hijacked by retards. Going to hide.
Chase Hughes
Not suprise this thread been created by sloven. You are probably Some Metelkova cocksucker nigge rlover. Eating nigger shit lying on metelkovas floor. You been finished with piss or something you fucking cuck. Sloven and croats are enemies.
Cocksucker
Isaiah Gutierrez
this, serbs are not that bad bosnians are uneducated drug dealing criminals that hate our culture
Colton Harris
>t. Čefur
Levi Robinson
How do you mean? I have more than enough money to leave here and do a few months without employment I'm finishing my graduation first and it depends on who is elected President next year for me to leave
Elijah Morris
Fuck off, Riheka was Habsburg clay, it is more rightful to belong to Croatia than Shitaly