/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - BEWARE THE SLANDERERING SERB & SWEDE EDITION

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This thread is dedicated to the discussion of all things small government, free market, and self-determination.
Welcome: paleoconservatives, minarchists, laissez-faire capitalists, agorists, ancaps, paleolibertarians, constitutionalists.
Anybody else is welcome to debate us.
Posting Soviet propaganda with no added information is spam and shall be treated as such.
/lrg/-approved people - Bastiat, Hayek, (((Mises))), (((Rothbard))), Pinochet, Timothy McVeigh, Hoppe, Llewellyn Rockwell, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Augustus Sol Invictus, Christopher Cantwell, and the 1st Irregulars. Some of the Liberty Hangout goys are approved too.
Not approved - Anarchyball, Jeffrey Cucker, or reddit anarchists.
All others - ask before trying to use them as a strawman against us.

>PASTEBIN: pastebin.com/vriBmd6A

Other urls found in this thread:

daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Iceland/Iceland.html
lewrockwell.com/2002/06/roderick-t-long/the-vikings-were-libertarians/
mises.org/sites/default/files/For a New Liberty The Libertarian Manifesto_3.pdf
peacerequiresanarchy.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/stateless-societies-ancient-ireland/
invisiblemolotov.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/wild-west3.pdf
joseywales1965.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/0001_anarchy_state_and_utopia.pdf
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

FAQ:
>Do you support open borders?
No. The government does not own the land, therefore it cannot determine the border policy. Seeing as 90% of immigration is harmful to the country, by default a vetting system is essential to protect the rights of the citizens.
>Whom'st'd'll've builds the roads?
The people who are going to use them will pay the road crews, and maintenance is provided by the toll money.
>Do you support drug use/other degenerate behaviour?
No, we strongly discourage it as it damages a society built on non-aggression. Most covenants would be built around family (to fill the void after the government is largely/completely gone), and family life is vulnerable to these socio-pathological behaviours. If degenerates want to form their own communities, they are welcome to choke on their own filth or clean up and become productive members of the society.
>Are you Jewish?
No, our Jews are better than their Jews. Few movements (apart from NatSocs, duh) have been accused of anti-Semitism as much as we have, and that's including our more moderate/mainstream figureheads, such as Ron Paul. We support Palestine over Israel (because it's their land, not because they're brown) and we strongly support cutting all foreign aid to Israel (and to pretty much everyone). The international financiers would be significantly set back by freeing the currency system and implementing an actual standard for money to prevent over-printing and inflation. Also we don't trade with our enemies, what the fuck.
>What will you do when governments take over you/reform?
Toss them out of helicopters again. Our crusade is eternal. Liberty or Death!

RECOMMENDED READING LIST:
ECONOMY
>The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith
>A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say
>The Law by Fréderic Bastiat
>The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek
>The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
>Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard
>Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell
POLITICS
>Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
>Second Treatise of Government by John Locke
>Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick
>For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard
>Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell

MEDIA:
GOOD TIER
>facebook com/MinarchyMemes - sometimes posts edgy stuff
>facebook com/LibertyHangout - adamant fighters against communism
>facebook com/theliveshowtv - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast
>youtube com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T
GREAT TIER
>facebook com/HoppeanSnakeMemes - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd
>youtube com/user/FreedomFighter631 - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda
>youtube com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content
>youtube com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right
>1stirregulars com - 1st Irregulars' main site
>youtube com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux

Have a phone background, ancaps

And one for my minarchist bros

VIDEOS:
>Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=2RdnvahTAnU
>Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - youtube.com/watch?v=aSz_L1WZS7w
>Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - youtube.com/watch?v=7QYL4w3V_mo
>Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - youtube.com/watch?v=szqxmnMfB8U
>Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE
>Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI
>Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c
>1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw
>That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8

just join the syndicate

Thanks, B.
How's the aiborne oven project going? If you're the chief, that is.

Fuck you and your false ideology

Kill yourself, it's free.

Zadrhni sa knedľou, kokot.

Not me, sorry.

>Just give up your property rights
>mfw

Forgot pic

mfw property is theft

Liberalism and Lolbertarianism are two most corrupt ideologies ( right after communism ) based on amorality and rejection of the collective

Oy vey goyim of course we dont want free flow of capital and workforce.

>Jeffrey Tucker not in literal faggot tier

it's tucker time fgt

Stirnerites get out reeeeee

>libertarian is bad because it isn't collectivist
>communism is bad too
Pick one

Nobody owns anything unless they make a claim. Therefore, property is theft from no-one, literally the opposite of actual theft.

>hates communism
>makes fun of people for rejection of the collective

c'mon man

do you have any idea how contradictory that statement is?

Communism is bad because it's economical endgame is beyond unrealistic and denies basic facts of human psychology - also denies economical self sustainability for the individual

I hate libs and libts because they deny existance of any and every collective there is - they don't give a shit about family, laws for them is just something they wanna universally repeal, they love drugs, hate AoC, etc.

Noice quads

Read above

>amorality
Nothing more immoral than using force against people who aren't doing anything wrong, i.e. taxing them simply because they produce.
>collective
We acknowledge that division of labour and economy of scale mean that people thrive in communities and not alone. We also don't lie to ourselves about the fact that man's mind cannot be broken as easily as his body, so we let people associate with whomever they wish. This results in conservative, White, traditional communities thriving and in libcuck ancom shitholes dying because they deserve it.
Putting liberalism and libertarianism anywhere close one another after 1900 is a sign of early dementia, you actual moron.
Ako som povedal, zadrhni sa knedľou, ty cigánsky kokot. Mali ťa vyplaviť tí istí občania, ktorí sa ti musia skladať na sociálne dávky, pretože máš viac detí, než bodov IQ.

Libertines should be gassed. Rothbard didn't man gas chambers, but he should have.

>family
nigger what do you think is going to replace the state as a social unit?
the kikes in the government are taking your kids away to indoctrinate them for 6-8 hours a day for 15 years to hate you and love degeneracy and you don't seem too bothered by it, because at least it's not the evil libertarians who would have given you the right to shoot muds on sight 20 years ago
>laws
Read The Law by Bastiat. Law is Justice - that means protection of life, liberty, and property. Life and liberty are basically just ownership of self, which means that any society not recognising property is unjust in the core.
>AoC
What are we, Muzzies?
We're not the ones brainwashing young kids to love cock. Diddling kids is degenerate and should be punishable by death.

MUSIC:
>Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8
>Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc
>I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o
>Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ
>Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw
>Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc
>Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo
>Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0
>Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w
>Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM
>Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=r1J8F6YQjBg
>Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=5WzAFG0Wntc
>Start Up The Rotors - youtube.com/watch?v=Ptw41GUKLpc

Taxation isn't wrong - unecessary taxation is
Economical policies aren't the issue here although I'm not a fan of international free market

Social issues are tho. Excessive freedom equals disorder.
A nejsem cigán - Jenom nejsem pro-EU paroháč s nadrženým čurákem na nezletilé a nepotřebuji vytesat do ústavy že fetovat je právo

S tím jděte a ten celý Váš blok do řiťi

MEMES:
>Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ
>Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU
>Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg
>Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns
>Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo
>Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY
>That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU

Economic and economical are not synonyms.

Perhaps your observation is true for left-libertarians (georgists, hippie, ancoms, etc.), but the ancap, the minarchist, and any other variety of right-wing libertarian most certainly do not reject the existence of collectives. Hans Hermann Hoppe, the most prominent libertarian thinker alive today, stresses that the ideal libertarian social order would be a patchwork of small covenants who would decide their own laws and ways of life.
I don't desire that social order myself; I'm a minarchist, so I don't think total anarchy would be ideal, but I certainly agree with him that there should be voluntary micro-collectives in place of super-centralized socialist republics.

Taxation is the price we pay for inferior people to exist. Make of it what you will - they're the reason a central, coercive authority is placed upon the people.
International free markets suck ass - who the hell thinks China should trade with anyone? They have an endless supply of slave labour, they're fucking abominable.
Freedom means the right to pursue happiness. However, this needs to be compatible with the rights of others - homos threaten your health, drugs threaten your property, free movement threatens your life, etc.
Fet je degenerácia a bežný feťák si aj tak zaslúži helikoptéru. Kosti pedofilov by mali byť prímesou do cementu, a EÚ je židovské zovretie Európy.

Is that even being right wing libertarian tho?

Seems to me like you're just Right Wing Conservative

There are many libts who love homosexuality, hate the state, love pedos and love EU.

Ain't I Right seems a bit more authoritarian right considering the line against burning draft cards.

Some more music:
>The Limeliters - Harry Pollitt - youtube.com/watch?v=SIaRyaQw4N0
>Oingo Boingo - Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=xqXAW2snGMI
>h o p p e w a v e - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ

>self sustainability for the individual
>rejection of the collective is bad

pick one and only one senpai

Does anyone have a 1920x1080 ancap/libertarian flag wallpaper? Preferrably without a snake

Just the ancap flag then?

You prolly can't see a difference between economical individual responsibility for themselves and social collective structures such as the state, family etc.

Yup, exactly what i was looking for. Thanks a lot.

You prolly can't see a difference between economical individual responsibility for themselves and voluntary social collective structures such as covenants, family etc. not based on the use of unjust force and subjugation of one's will onto others

No one forces you to get married - doesn't mean you shouldn't have then responsibility to that family once you do.

Responsibility must always come before ones happiness

Read Kulturkampf, an article by Rothbard. He was allied with Pat Buchanan and the paleo-conservatives.
Mises and Rothbard were both race realists and radical conservatives, as evidenced by their approval of fascism over communism.
Mises mentored Rothbard, who became an AnCap (Mises was a minarchist) and then he taught Hoppe, who became literally Hitler.
Some of Hoppe's views:
Keynes' flawed economic stances may have been caused by his homosexuality.
Democrats and communists are detrimental to society and need to be physically expelled in order for that society to survive.
In a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, the proponents of (((alternative))) lifestyles also need to be removed, in order to honor that original meaning of the covenant.

I am forced to pay taxes senpai

and I agree with you that responsibility comes first. Anarcho-Capitalism is freedom from state, not responsibility. If anything, irresponsible people are filtered out because there's no state to baby them with welfare

What does /lrg/ think of Tom Woods?

I ran across this a few weeks ago. Thought you guys might get a kick out of it.

Im interested in the history of friendly societies can anyone give me some good sources?

If there isn't larger social structure which enforces that responsibility it'll eventually cause disorder

Ancap utopia is illusion. It's basically Globalism in hands of the 1% instead of the states.

And taxes that are wasted on welfare is bad - no one ever said it isn't - but taxes themselves aren't complete evil - Military and police are necessary structures provided by state which could not or would be disadvantagous for the society if they'd be in private hands

Hoppe is probably thrice this cuck's age and HHH could curb-stomp him until he fills the cracks on the road that's being inefficiently managed by the state's tax revenue.

>/lrg/-approved people
>Timothy McVeigh
SlovakOP delivered

I want this fag going full cognitive dissonence after reading the chapters on immigration

He doesn't really make any arguments against it though, he's just saying what was in the book as if everyone should know its inherently wrong.

The only argument I can really get from this is "All of these things are apparently axiomatic truths that cannot be denied even when, say, productivity figures in the Nordic countries match or exceed those in countries with less thoroughgoing redistributive schemes," and that's a poor argument considering the there are much more factors to take into account than wealth redistribution in analyzing productivity among different countries.

>no Nozick

You fucking disgust me

>flag
I can see why you might want to read up on some friendlier places.
>Medieval Iceland
>daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Iceland/Iceland.html
>lewrockwell.com/2002/06/roderick-t-long/the-vikings-were-libertarians/

>Ancient Gaelic Ireland
>mises.org/sites/default/files/For a New Liberty The Libertarian Manifesto_3.pdf (go to pg 79, though he discusses a few other examples in preceding pages)
>peacerequiresanarchy.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/stateless-societies-ancient-ireland/

And of course
>The American Old West
>invisiblemolotov.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/wild-west3.pdf

i wish i was on my phone to save this but thanks for your contribution to society

>All of these things are apparently axiomatic truths that cannot be denied even when, say, productivity in the Nordic countries match or exceed those in countries with less thoroughgoing redistributive schemes.
They must have missed the entire point of the introduction where it's impossible to de-entangle the effects of a policy from all the surrounding factors. Also note how he makes to attempt to actually refute the logical reasoning of HHH, just makes pleas to his statist narrative, plus the CURRENT YEAR ('seriously in the century').
The first paragraph is at least entertaining, especially the quip about hyphenation.

You mean Timothy "Abolish the state with ammonium nitrate" McVeigh?

blue corner > purple corner

any new orleans anons here

>muh nordick countries

every time

>If there isn't larger social structure which enforces that responsibility it'll eventually cause disorder

This is true. But, while your intent is clear, the method isn't: you simple cannot force responsibility onto other people. There cannot be legislature that says responsibility is required by law. Instead, what must be done is simple and uses your aforementioned disorder productively: degenerates are left to their own private property, while you keep to your own, upholding ultra-conservative laws within your realm. The irresponsible degenerates, starved of welfare, will crash their own property because degeneracy is still degeneracy and one of two will happen:

1. Some people will decide to give up being a degenerate and go back to civilized private societies where degeneracy is banned
2. Some degenerates will riot and use violence, in which case violence is rightfully justified in return and they can be killed freely without guilt

The system cleans and filters itself much more efficiently than if you try and force responsibility on degenerates directly. They have to learn the error of their ways, and if they don't learn, you must let them suffer the full consequences of their degeneracy without mercy.

>It's basically Globalism in hands of the 1% instead of the states.

How so?

I never understood this "criticism" when it's LESS government, not a bigger one to rule the world. it's not Globalism if there's no central authority over everything.

>which could not or would be disadvantagous for the society if they'd be in private hands

In what way can private police not work or would be "disadvantageous"?

If anything, the free market of competing police agencies for the best services mean they would have to be even better then their competitors in upholding peace and minimizing crime. Compare this to a stagnant police force appointed by law that is just *assumed* to be doing their best *just because*

how so?

Unfortunately for us minarchists, ancapism is much more in vogue. Ancap just seems like better meme material.

For those who care, here's Nozick's big piece in the libertarian world:
joseywales1965.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/0001_anarchy_state_and_utopia.pdf

For those who are interested in minarchism, here are some other authors to look into:
>Ron Paul
>Adam Smith
>John Locke
>David Hume
>Ludwig von Mises
>Thomas Paine
>Friedrich Hayek
>Harry Browne
>John Stuart Mill

Uh...I meant Timothy "be a hero,nuke the bureau" McVeigh

I visited there a couple years ago. Walter Block teaches at Loyola.

>cropping out everything but the text
This is why nobody likes you, neocons

I like him

Nice

I pandered to your shitposting, Frenchbro.
I've liked him as long as I've known about him, though.

PLEB

>futa
>not degenerate
GEE THANKS STATE FOR SAVING US FROM DEGENERACY!
You're like a refutation of your own non-argument. Thank you for having made my day.

if you fucc them you might get aids
- chris cantwell, pikeville, 2017

>Medieval Iceland
>Ancient Gaelic Ireland
>The American Old West
literally family

Anyway is Founding Father Ameribro in here?
HOW'S THE MOBILE OVEN?

I feel like most of the people who identify with the purple corner are the "DUDE lesbians with rifles defending marijuana fields LMAO" people or gun wielding trannies.
and even if the blue corner has a lot of economically illiterate people and way to many protectionists at least most of them seem to be interested in preserving Christian/European nations and culture


because the free market does such a wonderful job at stopping "degeneracy"

Bullets do a good enough job.
Either way, Molyneux and That Guy High-T are ancaps.

Did his artwork evolved ?
Didn't saved it

Well, we're paleolibertarians; the good kind, not libertine infiltrators.

this is the most latest one i have on my machine

im not him btw*

I didn't make that meme
Christopher Cantwell would fit much better, but he's not famous enough

I didn't say I hated all the purples, I know there are a lot of great people there. I just think it's much more heavily infiltrated.

how would libertarians handle the US global empire if they controlled DC?

would it be (((multinational corporations))) run amok?

Yikes, ancap is literally the single gayest faction on this board. They even put little bowties on their ball. Fruitcakes.

> I just think it's much more heavily infiltrated.
Completly agree

Anarchoball is a fag and we all know it here

> Keynes' flawed economic stances may have been caused by his homosexuality.

Source?

>Keynes' flawed economic stances may have been caused by his homosexuality.

that's bullshit but i believe it

Wassap. Sorry I'm late.
It's me, America checking in. I still want to make the image Danette danker taking suggestions.

>Dannete
Phone posting, never mind my apparent retardation.

"Taxation isn't theft but it is extortion but it doesn't make for that good of a slogan" - Austin Petersen
The thing is that you are not OBLIGED to pay but it's a nice house you have there, it would be a shame if somebody were to kick you out of it.

I'm interested in finding the citation for this.

I'm here, I'm gonna add Hoppe in, pushing the fags out, and decorate the oven with more fire and oyyveyyyyy

keep it up lad

No Ayn Rand??

No Ayn Rand.

Red pill me because from what I know she was pretty economically sound + objectivism

Imagine if your philosophy was so fucked that you had to rely on something like 'natural law' haha :D

Nice.
Can you post the update on the pic?

The one posted is the most recent, I gotta add stuff in.

Whoops, didn't scroll up. Shieet.

I'm really liking this Timothy "anotha shoah down in Oklahoma" McVeigh fella, meme him more.

What if companies want to flood the market with cheap imported labor? How should the natives respond?

libertarians will never be taken seriously until they answer this question

>posts a meme claiming we use strawmen
>while trying to make a case against anarchyball
>whomst we hate
That retard literally doxxed Mr. Please Clapperton. For recruiting Jared Howe, Eric July, and That Guy T - all of whomst'd've have spines and are good libertarians, unlike Anarchyball. What makes you think we like that ass?
I know Fapperton made the comics, but they parted ways. He's cringy too, but at least he no longer shit-talks helicopters.