>Orbán outlined an action plan designed to encourage couples to have children, saying that 2018 would be “the year of families”.
>He announced that the government would pay off 1 million forints (EUR 3,200) of families’ mortgages for every third and subsequent child they have.
>As part of the scheme, the government will forgive half of the student loan debt of young women with two children and all of the student loan debt of those with three or more children, he said.
>Women with higher education degrees who receive child support benefits will be eligible for them for an extra year, up until their child’s second birthday.
>He said the government would launch a “never-before-seen” creche development scheme which will see new creches built “in every area with families”, while existing creches will be renovated if necessary.
>Hungarians living abroad will also become eligible for maternity allowances next year and Hungarians everywhere in the Carpathian Basin will have the opportunity to acquire “baby bonds”, he said. Orbán announced that the government would set up a research centre with a view to aiding families, establishing a basis for “family policy philosophy” and understanding demographic conditions in Europe and around the world. The prime minister said Hungary would target raising its birth rate to 2.1 percent by 2030. “If there are children, there is a future,” Orbán said.
I HAVE TO MY PAY TAXES TO FUCKING CHADS AND GYPSIES
OH BOY MOOOOOORE FUCKING SUBSIDIES BECAUSE IT WASNT ALREADY FUCKING EXPENSIVE FOR NEETS TO MOVE OUT
COMMUNIST FUCKING SCUM
Jacob Richardson
not with your degenerate leftist genes
Lucas Stewart
Hungary, Poland and the other intermarium countries are the only Western nations that have futures.
Bentley Sullivan
BAD GOY. YOU NEED IMMIGRANTS, NOT BABIES.
Andrew Powell
Why hasn't Africa died off yet? Arent they the continent with the biggest birthrate predicted by 2050? WHY??
Oliver Butler
Is Orbán THE single greatest politician in all of Europe?
Answer: yes, he is!
Christopher Mitchell
we need to incentivize whites to have children in America now
Sebastian Morris
We feed them. The church and Islam tell them to breed.
Charles Perry
You realize he is just buying votes by spending someone else's money?
Jose Young
No he's not idiot, he's saving his country from demographic decline.
You know what other country has super pro-natalist policies? Israel. And they just recently passed the 3.0 fertility rate mark (for jews, not arabs).
Sebastian Murphy
Good on you lads. Hope other white nations can follow suit
Owen Robinson
Stay butthurt, commie. Orbán is a fucking hero who secures the future of the Hungarian people and therefore their culture. The baizuo just imports their voters and Untermenschen by spending someone elses money.
Our birthrate is low because young people are running away from high taxes and low wages. But clearly even higher taxes and 12 silver will make them stay and have more kids
Liam Mitchell
Yeah, but not you and us, friend. We are on our way to poice state and nu gommunism.
Ian Cook
Go fuck yourself. I actually hate socialists and communists, unlike Sup Forums who are fucking hypocrites
Boo hoo, welfare is the most evil thing in the world. Oh wait *I* can get welfare? It's the best thing ever! I love stealing other people's money now!
Luis Foster
You're still in your ancap phase. You'll eventually mature and come to see that society is a biological construct, and the biological capital of a country is its most important asset.
Ryder Wilson
Your taxes are lower than ours. And just because wages here are higher, which is a byproduct of our historical economic development, doesn't give people an excuse to abandon their home country.
Sebastian Cook
>encouring white people to have babies This guy is literally Hitler, goddamn. Shaking right now, desu.
Benjamin Foster
Can i? Can code sharp, ++, php and all that web crap.
Ayden Jenkins
Money for white births is socialism >fucking autism
Leo Diaz
Orbán is doing exactly what Sarrazin proposed in 2010 as a consequence of what he observed in Germanistan.
Sebastian Cooper
Why is the birth rate of Germany so low, then? They have sub-replacement fertility since the 70s
Anthony Kelly
So basically: Throw money at women and hope they have more kids. I don't know seems kind of a weird idea that might end up bankrupting your country and filling it with single mothers.
Ethan Reed
>slav >white
topkek
Luis Perry
You just stay in Russia.Thats where you belong.
Jeremiah Rogers
It seems to be more family oriented than single mother oriented.
Jonathan Hall
It's great and all, but how do you plan to stop gyspies from claiming benefits for their 10+ gypsy kids?
Grayson Hill
>poland >western
topjej
Bentley King
I will only agree with you when taxes are raised, until then, shut up. Fucking commie.
Nathaniel Thomas
based
wouldn't wanna ruin pic related with slav genes
Charles Bailey
NAtional SocIalism
Nicholas Mitchell
Well, it's simple: the money only goes to ethnically Hungarian people. Literally Hitler. Or you could bind it to wörk and study. Gypsies do neither. Sneaky Jew method.
Adrian Scott
Based Thilo was right all along, and he knows it.
Hudson Evans
14/88
Luke Morgan
Gypsies don't have mortgages, student loans, or degrees. So none of this will apply to them, hopefully. If this were true, then western europe, the countries hungarians flee to, would have dramatically higher birth rates, but they don't. They are all abysmally small. I know a few rich families myself (my sister married into one). Im talking about trips to hawaii/switzerland every year and always having the latest gadgets, the biggest TVs and living in gated suburbs.They fill up their bank accounts from their careers until they decide at the age of 35 to have ONE child and that's it. Not even the rich want to have kids. Something is fundamentally wrong with the european life attitude.
Christopher Bennett
We need to incentivize FATHERS. The throwing money at women thing is fucking insane. Incentivize MARRIAGE. Pay $50 grand or something for first marriages that you don't have to pay back UNLESS you divorce.
Camden Reed
The initial brunt of this will be extremely rough but after 2 decades when said generation enters the workforce the added consumers would kick start the economy for sure. My take, people will bitch certainly those at higher tax status but the implicated success will outweigh the temporary discomfort.
Julian Davis
Brainwashing is not a meme
Jackson Hill
Ja, aber Thilo ist ein faules Ei. Kritisiert nie die SPD oder auch nur die Grünen. Wann immer er Politiker als Problemurheber nennt, es sind immer CDU Politiker.
Auch unehrlich in der SPD zu bleiben. Habe, als ich noch ein normie war, wegen ihm und Buschkowsky 2013 SPD gewählt, weil sie mir unironisch rechter vorkam als die Merkel CDU.
Owen Diaz
I'm pretty sure they couldnt legally discriminate gypsies. They could't however introduce massive tax cuts and bind it to gigher education, as you said
Asher Rogers
literally every euro nation should be trying to do this. I wonder why, maybe ((they)) have something to do with it.
Dominic Lopez
>If this were true, then western europe, the countries hungarians flee to, would have dramatically higher birth rates, but they don't. They are all abysmally small. I know a few rich families myself (my sister married into one). Im talking about trips to hawaii/switzerland every year and always having the latest gadgets, the biggest TVs and living in gated suburbs.They fill up their bank accounts from their careers until they decide at the age of 35 to have ONE child and that's it. Not even the rich want to have kids. Something is fundamentally wrong with the european life attitude. THIS. They are also basically overgrown children and fanatical about their self-righteous pseudo-religion of the nu left. A society that lives for gizmos and toys while it aborts its children, worships death.
Jace Gomez
Based Magyars.
Asher Turner
AfD wants to revoke the no fault divorce.
Jace Barnes
It's simple actually. In current year having kids means a huge drop in life quality. You may ask yourself why do niggers have so many children? Because their life is already shitty, couple kids don't make it much worse
Isaac Rodriguez
Here come the Bachelor and Bachelorette taxes.
Dominic Parker
Yeah, they can't. The EU calls Orbán Hitler already. I bet, if he tried that, they would unironically invade Hungary. And Soros pays the bills.
David Hughes
So Hungary is officially fighting off the refugees now, no going back. Good for them for breaking the hold of kikes, I can only hope that we do the same thing.
Luke Lewis
Enjoy having poor people breed like rabbits. Leading to a generation of unskilled workers in a no-job world. The poor gene will be everywhere
Adam Howard
Cheers to that
Jaxon Smith
Hab ich ganz verdrängt, dass der in der SPD ist...
Naja, irgendwas is immer.
Cameron Fisher
I think, Orbán is half-Jew and half-gypsie himself. At least a Hungarian told me that.
Aaron Moore
I have a one white European child and want to have more will Hungary accept me?
William Rodriguez
WHERE'S MY GOVERNMENT MANDATED QT THIS IS NOT WHAT WE AGREED ON VITYA
Ayden Rivera
That is also a bad idea in my opinion. Throwing money at people doesn't help. Men need better quality jobs so their spouses don't have to work and can take car of children. Also marriage laws need to be revised since the current contracs offers no benefit to the man - it's basically "Sign this paper to get nothing but a 50% chance of losing at least 50% of your assets and probably your children" (I'm not sure if this bit applies to Hungary but I assume the situation there isn't much different from here).
Sebastian Fisher
ORBAN HILFT UNS!
Logan Gomez
Order one from Ukraine.
Nathan Bell
Why does this thread get so little response? Finally something is being done by based Orbán and useless Sup Forums doesn't care.
bump
Brody Gutierrez
Race and culture are more important than muh taxes
Henry Hill
Your government will either spend money ensuring your people breed, or money ensuring invaders breed your women. Which do you prefer?
Colton Martinez
Nobody cares.Do something right,nobody cares.Do something wrong,everybody will remember forever. You should best know that,Hans.
Ryan Bennett
Ukies are top qts now that you mention it. Surely there's some poor and very hot war refugees looking for someone to take them in.
Blake Harris
I don't want kids but this is good news. This is the way to solve population decline and not importing Muslim "refugees".
Joseph Reyes
Shills are sliding threads like these talking about based black man and latest twitter outrages
Easton Jackson
F U C K I N G P A S T E U C K I N G
P A S T E
Jason Walker
I hope we follow suit.
Sebastian Walker
The intent is great but the implementation is wrong.
I've studied the causes of low birth rates and throwing money at the problem will not work. The primary cause of the problem is women seeking careers and the time it takes to get one and become secure in it. Sure other factors like moral decay add into it but much the career path is the main one.
To get a career one usually requires post secondary, following that several years are required to become 'secure' in a company to go on mat leave, following that time is required before you take leave again. In short if everything goes absolutely perfectly a career woman will have 3 kids by 35. But live isn't perfect and that scenario is extremely rare.
If Hungary or any other country for that matter wants their birth rate to increase they must get women out of the career stream.
Step one would be to cut employment equity, without it most positions would be filled by men because on average they're more qualified. This doesn't shut the door to all women just a large number of them, talented women can still get careers.
Step two would be to have school guidance councilors (now sure what they're called in Hungary, basically people who give children advice on what to do with their lives) truthfully explain how the university system works and what to expect with what degrees. Hearing the cold hard truth would make less women pursue liberal arts.
Step three would be to cut bureaucracy because most female careers are related to it (admin assistants, middle management). As an added bonus things will become more efficient.
With all but the most talented women taken out of the career world the will have to work at a job (more free than a career) or become a housewife. With those two lifestyles statically women are more likely to have children.
Someday when I am not feeling lazy I want to write a full guide with sited sources. Until then this is just a small sample.
Parker King
Scary. But if >he government will forgive half of the student loan debt of young women with two children and all of the student loan debt of those with three or more children Wouldnt this incentivize women to have kids after uni right away?
Christian Phillips
Yeah, this. Throwing huge sums of money at newlywed couples just encourages young people with no money to marry their current partner which will most likely lead to divorce later down the line. Making them pay the money back would either put them in huge debt since they are most likely bad with money, or it would force them to stay in a failed marriage. Not to mention the the possibility for fraud, where two people get legally married for the money and then go on to lead their separate lives with other people.
Evan Cruz
Soild post, have a (you). I know you leafs feed on them ;^)
Charles Rivera
>Orban >putting the "national" in "national socialist" >putting the "socialist" in "national" >only nupol can support this I'm an oldfag and even I don't know who's jewing who anymore...
Adrian Morris
Then why go to university in the first place? No,kids. White birthrates decline naturally mostly,because whites see the world as it is and dont want to bring a life in to this mess to suffer. The remaining is the reward for brainwashing. Women can have a career and kids.They just dont want.
Ayden White
not really, a kid is a HUGE setback in woman's career
Easton Hernandez
Did something wrong? What do you mean, based friend?
Eli Campbell
Exactly. Just don't get cucked.
Aaron Wilson
What's scary about that?
Connor Bell
Which means you are literally throwing money away. First you waste resources getting women educated then you waste resources taking care of their kids for them.
Connor Nelson
The best way to remove taxes without pissing off the kikes too much.
Lincoln Collins
what the fly fuck? you fucking racist... why waste your money when you can let an imigrant move there?
so racist
Dominic Phillips
Maybe the woman should have some logic and first have children and then concentrate on career after. Guess dumb cunt thinks its a HUUUUGE setback in a womans career when she gets a job then 2 weeks later she leaves for 2-3 years of maternity leave and bitches because the job is long gone by then.
Samuel Price
Married couples under 40. Do you think Orban understands that would cause degeneracy. Imagine in the US all these fucking prog white women trapped under debt being dirty hipster turbosluts are offered a way out. They have the choice to stop being a degenerate get married and make kids. I'd say the moral hazard is low, as women are not forgoing education for kids, they are foregoing kids for education. The societal gains of getting people married again are great.
Brody King
Isn't university free here for most people anyway? You only have to pay it back if you leave the country within 10 years or something like that.
Daniel Butler
the hard facts, the red pills, and the realization that trends won't change because removing women from the workforce is sexist and feminists have too much control for this to change.
Kayden Miller
Dont you fear,we dont forget.
Carson Adams
Traditional Christianity works folks...
Based Hungary... Based Poland.
Get back to church goy and strike a blow to the globalist scum!
Deus Vult!
Justin Gomez
Eutelegenisis would increase the birth rate.
the government could also outsource baby making to corporate baby farms.
Ryan Flores
So we want them to wait and marry later with no assistance or inventive in their actually getting married or staying married?
Pick one. I say incentivize marriage, discourage divorce. Make getting the incentive for marriage a fairly lengthy process in itself that you have to begin BEFORE actually getting married. Have plenty of fraud threats and warnings.
Anthony James
idk, think about that. If you want to have a career, most often than not you want to have masters. And since having a long breaks in education ends badly, we are already talking about 23-24 yo women. You can reasonably go to work when your kinds are in school so thats make ~30 years if 1 kid, 30+ if more. A this point you have to compete with younger people while having more responsibilities. Not to mention where are you going to get a money to get a family started straight out of college? Also, employers have reservations about hiring women with a "high reproductive risk" because it's a big financial loss for a company
Oliver Garcia
Does Hungary have no welfare for the heroic single mom like the rest of the world? The US system already incentivizes poor people single motherhood and makes it difficult for married families.
EU army. That has daily AUSCHWITZ! classes, women and migrant quotas and schwangerengerechte BMPs.
Jose Hernandez
Look.By career i ment something like head manager of a big corporation, not being a waiter.Because lets be honest,where women are preferred for the job and she has to be young and look good,thats not a job with a career opportunity up the road. At that level having a kid and being over 30 should allow for her to gather some common sense,thats way needed for a career.I could go on and on.
Eli Smith
The world is overpopulated and you want to bring more children into it, it's better to just let migrants in.
Andrew Lopez
This. You huns are being retarded. Are you all such nihilists that you would prefer the destruction of your race and culture in the long term, simply so *you* can have it better today? Take a look around you. That attitude is why the world is so fucked up. It's the underlying cause of your contempt for humanity. You all sound like a parody of Nietzsche's worst predictions. By the way, knowing the world is fucked up isn't synomous with nihilism. Some people still try to make the best of a bad situation. It's that or kys, otherwise you're just a coward.
Gavin Scott
I'm not saying it's the #1 reason behind low birth rates but the average Hungarian is penniless. We have first world tier amenities with Russia tier wages and it's driving people crazy. I'm old enough that many of my old friends are starting families and they're doing the craziest shit just to have a hundred or 200 dollars more at the end of the month. I know girls who wanted to have kids early but waited until they were in their 30s just so they could go on maternity leave from a higher paying job. Naturally the optimal solution would be if women didn't need to work at all if they didn't want to, but in the meantime throwing money at young couples would definitely help.
Dominic Flores
Are you an immigrant? Yes its free up to a certain age last time i checked. But if you dont reach a certain point requirement for the uni you have to pay. You can also request a student loan even if your education is paid for, to cover living expenses and such. as far as i know no. Mommy welfare applies for the first year only if you had a job prior to giving birth(this is what they are promising to extend to 2 years). Theres also a "familiar welfare" depending on the number of kids you have, its a small ammount to begin with, and if you are single its only higher by a tiny ammount, by like 10-15 euros.