Would it be prudent to allow some non-Whites to remain within a White ethno-state in North America? Either because some of them might be willing to support our goals for their own long-term future, or just for optics.
If so, which non-White groups get to stay?
dunno, maybe some ambassadors
perhaps one or two cities
None, that's the purpose of an ethnostate
diplomats & tourists
anything else and it's a slippery slope
tourists?
sure, it brings cash
ask any of your relatives in the south of my country
I'd guess non-Whites would see some novelty in visiting all White nations, like some White see novelty in visiting African or Asian nations for the "culture"
Though, that's different that permanent residence. Would foreign students be allowed in?
Any non-whites willing to fight for the state and be sterilized.
I'd let honorary whites like Nips, Viets, and some Gooks or Taiwanese stay without restriction if whites stayed above 95% of the population.
its too late
unless you break up your country
focus in other things... I dont know
civic nationalism vs globalism is what you have left
I thought spain was also White bruv
if money is the motivator than why bother with an ethnostate?
I don't see why we should let in foreign students, we should give all the places to our own
spbp
>White ethnostate
>North America
Spanish coastline is devastated by hotels tho
Those who can survive without welfare.
The Larry Elders and David Clarkes of the worlf
>Would foreign students be allowed in?
Fuck no. Marxist subversion can get out.
I'd allow tourism, but we would have to make very clear that sex tourism will be punished severely. Preferably, miscegenation would be a capital offence.
I just think tourism is more benefit than damage by far, really stimulates the economy
if we're in an ethnostate it's easy to see who's overstaying their welcome, isn't it?
Shitskins survive without welfare all the time. Subhumans still multiply in squalid conditions--look at Somalia: in the middle of a famine and still with net population growth of 4%.
Maybe some white Hispanics, Cubans, native Americans obviously, and I guess some of the Chinese or Indians who have been historically pretty good at integration. The numbers of nonwhites let in would have to be way smaller than present, though. For most Blacks I say we just let them have Louisiana or something, dump a few billion into giving it some infrastructure, and then wall off the border. If goes to shit they'll have nobody else to blame, and if it doesn't then maybe the illegals will go there instead.
Trips witnessed, but don't forget if the civilized world wasn't giving free aid to those shithole countries they would probably just die off instead. We really shot ourselves in the foot by sending aid to africa, they realized they don't have to fix their country because the Boer will provide gibs
what if I told you I couldn't give a shit about noble savage red indians?
even based negros will have children that regress to the racial mean in IQ and criminality
>I'd allow tourism
not sure that I get why, apart from money, and there are plenty of other ways to get money
>really stimulates the economy
HEY THERE, WELCOME TO MY ETHNOSTATE THAT LETS ANYONE VISIT
just seems pointless
>native Americans obviously
kek
why?
>HEY THERE, WELCOME TO MY ETHNOSTATE THAT LETS ANYONE VISIT
>just seems pointless
well, consider Japan, it has tons of tourism from which every single japanese benefits, yet it remains like 99% japanese, and it isn't even an ethnostate
won't you take shitksin cash, nige?
Tourism would still be controlled, and subhumans would be shot for chimping out in the country. But if they're willing to spend money propping up a country for whites, why not? And as Spainbro said, it would be extremely easy to tell if someone tries to overstay a visa.
But to your point, I'd have different access visas based off of race. I.e. white tourists can go pretty much anywhere.
They just get drunk in their reservations. Not really a big deal.
I am fine with all non-whites who trace their heritage to anywhere outside of Africa, South East Asia, and South America, provided they are not Muslim.
Even Arabs can be based when they're Christian
>Even Arabs can be based when they're Christian
hello redit
Jewish people are pretty based and they are the smartest people in the world. they could help run the banks, entertainment industry and stock market.
This. The purpose of ethnostate is that 'europeans belong in europe'. You will always have to go back to your ethnic land. America is not whites' ethnic land. Whites are not supposed to live in america's climate and geography. White people belong in europe, chinese belong in china, etc etc
Arent you a christian arab, essentially?
>still being this bluepilled
You have a long way to go, nigger.
Why would you ever want an ethnostate?
this. fuck them. they have to go back or they will be mass murdered
hmm, that's a fairly good argument
would you allow nig and mudslime tourists?
you knew you'd mostly win me over by mentioning the nips, didn't you, pedro?
>I'd have different access visas based off of race. I.e. white tourists can go pretty much anywhere
hmm, perhaps. would you allow kikes? how would you tell which tourists were here to partake in enemy activiyt?
>America is not whites' ethnic land
sure it is
we conquered it, it's ours
>leaf
Kikes would only be allowed in as tourists if they were tattooed, fingerprinted, and agreed to check in with authorities regularly. They're very dangerous due to their ability to blend in.
t. 25% kike white nationalist
Ideally, only whites would reside in a white ethno-state. That being said, I'm half Korean but I look 100% white, so hopefully I can fly under the radar. I find other ethnic groups incredibly obnoxious.
>whites are not supposed to live in america's climate and geography
>being this retarded
The United States is filled with climate types that match Europe's -- mediterranean, semiarid, highland, subarctic, humid continental, marine west coast, humid subtropical. The only climate type found in the US that is not also found in Europe is arid and that is very little of our territory, mostly just Arizona and Nevada.
90% white should be our goal like how we were in our hay day.
You need native speakers of other languages so you can know your enemy.
No birthright citizenship though.
why would you want the opposite?
diverse areas have low social trust
why let any cancer in at all? so some faggots can get rich?
No one should conquer anything. No one should even travel. Imperialism is wrong. If you don't want muslims conquering your land no matter how fair they earn it, then you shouldn't do it either. Imperialism is wrong. If you're european, then nothing outside of europe can belong to you. The world crumbled when the west decided to explore. Before exploration, every nation/kingdom was independent. They could make their own system that work for themselves, fulfilling their needs.
>kikes
>blending in
Only to the untrained eye. They are easily visbile via an off-white skin tone, large hook nose, short connected ear lobes, kinkyish hair. All Jews will exemplify one, if not all, of these traits unless they are heavily mixed.
This, Spain makes bank in tourist money from drunken Brit's.
Yeah but still, it's not your ethnic land. No one should conquer anything, you barbaric monkey. Stay in your house, the only thing you deserve is on your land. Your ethnic land. The land where you were born, where your race was born, not where you CHOOSE to be. By that logic, i should be able to choose america as my ethnic land too
ethnostates based soley on ethnicity are retarded. i don't want to share a country with a bunch of degenerates whose only accomplishment is having white skin. every race produces subhumans (some more than others). the qualifications to get admitted into a white ethnostate should be high IQ, physical fitness, and a psych exam in addition to at least 7/8 caucasian ancestors, as long as the 1/8 non white part is non black or arab
Extra money never hurts, as long as the precautions are taken. In practice, almost nobody would even bother to come with the restrictions in place.
I was sent to a Jewish summer camp as a kid. I know what to look for, but the fact that shit like #OscarsSoWhite can be taken seriously is proof of the danger.
>ethnostates based soley on ethnicity are retarded.
user, I...
>conquering is bad
t. Ahmed
>ethnostates based soley on ethnicity are retarded
There's a reason why it's called "ethnostate" you idiot. If you want to cherrypick that bad then why not just build a university. The essence of being an ethnic group is that you don't get to choose, you just live with it. Heh, years and years without collective sense has fucked you up
>a White ethno-state in North America?
Why? There is no historical or ethnic basis. As people on Sup Forums love to claim America isn't a white nation, not has it ever been such blacks always made up at least 10% of the US population.
>No one should conquer anything, you barbaric monkey.
Morality is only possible for the victor. What's done is done, whites still dominate vast tracts of America, and the only factor that should guide us is what is good for our people. Or are you suggesting you want 50 million "muh heritage" burgers with 15% Anglo ancestry flooding into your island?
Basically, fuck off. We have a right to organize and promote our interests in white areas.
Japs maybe some mostly white Hispanics.
you can live on the border, must keep the korean leg outside at all times
bla bla x is wrong, no reasons, just a statement
it's wrong when it is done to US, it's not wrong when WE do it, got it currypleb?
>farm equipment
>population
Cool, when does my chair get a vote?
Yes conquering is bad, by your logic, the world should be a white planet. Do you want this planet to be a white planet ? It's a very barbaric thing to do. Look, your race exists because your ancestors live in your geographical landscape for 100.000 years. There's no reason to conquer anything, your land has 100% of everything that you need, you don't need more. Your needs are already accustomed with the geographic.
Only those with an IQ at least a half deviation above the average.
Then again, I would make testing mandatory and sterilize everyone under the 95 mark world wide, if I could.
>white ethnostate
You colonials always crack me up.
ok fine ethnostates are retarded. my point still stands
Most East Asians are honorary whites. You're fine by me.
As I said before, as long as the core genetic population is indisputably white, people like you pose no problem.
There's nothing ethnonationalistic about what you believe. By your logic, muslims flooding into your country, removing your race, is also plausible and fair.
Easy, i'll just bring in the muslims logic to a white man.
I want to preserve the white aesthetic.
Your point is irrelevant.
There's a lot of reason there you idiot
Please
I used to hate every non-white but ive seen too high a percentage of non-whites that are acceptable people both here and in meatspace. Never from any of the groups I specified though.
I think we should add light-skinned Asians for numerical reasons.
anyone that holds a license in a skilled profession, dentist, doctor, electrician, pipe fitter, etc...
if you're not useful AND intelligent, we don't need ya
It's not fair, because I don't want them here.
You don't seem to understand what I'm saying--I will not debate morality if doing so damages the well-being of the white race.
Personally, I agree, I don't like the concept of conquest or invasion, and would not do it myself. But to suggest whites should crucify themselves over that is ludicrous. The fact is that there are areas in the US with near-homogeneous white populations, and they have been that way for over a century. We have zero reason to give that up to shitskins who floated over on a door.
thin bottom lip too
spain and brits are both White
>Extra money never hurts
oyyy veyy muh shekels
waaaaaaaa it's baaaaaad
America can't be a white ethnostate. ETHNIC means where your race's heritage and history originated. 'Conquering' isn't part of it. By that logic, you're just like muslims, cultureless people who travels everywhere looking for nice places to stay and make it to cater their own needs. That's pretty barbaric
That puts me at ease. I know next to nothing about Korean language/culture, so I would be in quite the pickle if I had to move there. It helps that my mom is a ginger, so I have red hair.
I'm non white. I get to stay.
Why do you get to choose ? It's not your ethnic land. Your race's heritage and history didn't originate there, so it's not really your right, if we're talking in ethnonationalistic sense here. By your logic, nonwhites can come to your land legally and claim their little colonies and choose who can come who can't. Don't seek justification for your wrong way of thinking, just accept it that america can't be white ethnostate.
I'm a National Socialist. Accepting money is not wrong; sacrificing the well-being of a nation to obtain it is. Hence why I want extremely stringent precautions.
I think I know where you're coming from. On a personal note, people's material obsessions are infuriating, and the whole modern concept of "economy" over everything is depressing and distasteful.
But the sad fact is that most people will never care much about anything than their immediate possessions and surroundings. Idealists like us can only hope to preserve a system that prevents those impulses from becoming self-destructive, as is the case now.
>America can't be a white ethnostate
It is a perfect white ethnostate. We're mostly mutts here, so any European can move in and adapt. Europeans are much more nuanced than us.
That's funny because SJWs already treat any slight against any non-white person as a diplomatic incident
Native Americans that already live there. Its their homeland too, after all. Everyone is entitled to a homeland.
Yeah, Asians really have nothing to fear unless they're the soulless chinks swarming in now. I live in the second-highest concentration of Asians in the continental US, and most of you are based. Weird, maybe, but harmless at worst.
>it's not your right
Who decides these rights?
It is just force of arms, and all I am saying is that whites can and should fight to preserve what they have. The natives here are entitled to try and take back the whole country, but they can't because there aren't enough of them.
>I'm a National Socialist
This is the biggest red flag of 2016
Oriental Jews have basically none of those features as a group except for maybe the skin tone.
t. oriental jew
>But the sad fact is that most people will never care much about anything than their immediate possessions and surroundings. Idealists like us can only hope to preserve a system that prevents those impulses from becoming self-destructive, as is the case now.
I dunno if that is true. certainly people used to care a great deal about christianity, cuold we channel that kind of thing into nationalism? the schools teach anti-nationalism, so perhaps we could change that
true
>By your logic, nonwhites can come to your land legally and claim their little colonies and choose who can come who can't
I see you are suffering from moral absolutism, cast off you're shekels
hmm, socialism sure does suck
>biggest red flag of 2016
Good thing it's the (Current Year + 2), then.
I'd also add this. I don't have any desire to wipe out these groups. Gibsmedat migrants can fuck off, though.
Preserve what ? Your race's heritage and history didn't originate in america. So if you want to pursue ethnonationalism, you should stay where your genes originate. By your logic, everyone can TRY to take your land.
But by my logic, no one should even travel.
East asians and light skinned latinos/hispanics
Ethiopians are Bro-tier
You have no principle, that's all. You're just hateful and not able to be objective and rational. I believe you don't go to college as well.
People who think of me and themselves as Americans and only Americans.
Japs, as they are our destined brothers
>nazi Germany allied japs
>USA allies japs after
Other than them, none else. But not because of muhracism
>so perhaps we could change that
We absolutely could make a society that doesn't enable the darker (literally and figuratively, kek) aspects of humanity. But to fundamentally change human nature, I'm not too hopeful. It would be great if we could, but...
Why does your ID keep changing?
But anyway, there are 200 million whites in the US. Many have families who have been here for hundreds of years.
What other group would live in the areas all these people leave? The Natives? There are almost none of them left, and only the Navajo and maybe the Hopi have enough people to have a solvent nation-state. We'd essentially be letting the spics flood into an area, and they're no more entitled to the land than we are by your logic. So I choose to conserve part of the US for the whites here.
>I believe you don't go to college
obvious b8
외국인...
where do u live sir. where r these based asians?
...
>We absolutely could make a society that doesn't enable the darker (literally and figuratively, kek) aspects of humanity. But to fundamentally change human nature, I'm not too hopeful. It would be great if we could, but...
what makes you think human nature hasn't been poisoned by kike materialism?
So nonwhites included ?
>But anyway, there are 200 million whites in the US
Yeah but what does that mean ? No one's gonna forcefully wipe you out. Whether you want it to stay 200mils or not, it's your decision. No ones gonna block you from breeding.
Ethnonationalism doesn't work like that. You trace back your origin, and you stay there. It's like you don't even see your gene/heritage as sacred. You're just racist, not ethnonationalist.
>german blood
>born in america
>create white ethnostate in a nation that is NOT your ethnic land
>while not having any 'connection' whatsoever with germany
That's is so barbaric and anarchist. It's like you don't care about principles, you don't see your heritage as sacred, you just don't like blacks.
You're a leech. Like a muslim, coming to a country that is NOT your ethnic land, and PRESERVE your own people, like what muslims did with their little neighborhood and sharia laws.
Northern Virginia, believe it or not. They buy into none of the (((diversity))) propaganda and many have openly racist opinions. Half of the whites here are insufferable libshits, too, so the Asians look even better in comparison.
Part of it is that most of our Asians are the anti-gommies from Korea and Vietnam plus their families. That guy from pic related actually had a pizza shop here, iirc.
General disillusionment, I guess.
OK.
Meh
A simple solution would be the reintroduction of the quota system. Those here could stay if they wish but overtime the original racial makeup would be restored due to the limiting or prohibiting of non whites and the allowing in of greater numbers of western Europeans.
ah, im an asian living in nyc and theyre all pretty terrible memes aside. I have relatives who just got their legal citizenship in january living aroung gaithersburg which is southern maryland. theyre pretty based.
>General disillusionment, I guess.
demoralization is the cheif weapon of our adversaries
surely you can acknowledge that a hundred or two hudred years ago people were much less materialistic
NYC is getting swamped by commie chinks. That's probably why.
its also the children of the based asians who go to the same schools ur avg white sjw goes to and basically just becomes one of them
It's not an ethno-state if multiple ethnicities are in it, dumbass
>surely you can acknowledge that a hundred or two hudred years ago people were much less materialistic
Yes, of course. I value the traditional lifestyle, and I want to save up enough to buy a plot of land to farm on.
Most white nationalists are fine with Italians, Greeks, Spanish, Balkens, Russians
No actually. I'm a white nationalist and I support diversity, I support immigration from non-white countries. White nationalist means you think of Canada as say a "white country" but you accept people of all colours. I actually support open borders