How does it feel to be a tool in the downfall of the greatest nation on the planet?
This Russian pych-warfare campaign is so painfully obvious that it's downright head-spinning that it's actually working. They identified where most opinions were originating: Facebook, Reddit and Sup Forums and pumped those full of inflammatory English-language propaganda. combining anonymous posts and their "news" network RT they simply stirred the pot by posting conspiracy theories, disinformation and cherry-picked news.
There's so much talk about collusion between them and the Trump campaign when there was pretty much no need to collude at all. They didn't need to coordinate with the campaign to achieve their goal. The objective wasn't to get Trump elected so that he would go easy on them, it was to piss people off. Trump winning is just them hitting the jackpot: now instead of half the country being in unrest about "the Muslims coming to take over" or "Bill Clinton's underground pedophilia ring" they have the entire country ready to kill each other which is obviously pretty bad for America and therefore inherently good for Russia.
This is going to go down in history as the most effective use of psychological warfare of all time when this country goes Rwanda on itself.
It's additionally comical that they took advantage of everybody on the internet's need to be right all the time, to feel like they are "so woke" and "everyone else is just a Nazi/Cuck sheep".
I mean I get it, I got sucked into the whole "RT, 9/11 false flag, America is immoral/ no better than the other guy" thing about 5 years ago. So I do vaguely understand what drives this political cannibalism but god damn I never thought I'd see the day when seemingly well adjusted middle-aged men are frothing at the mouth about what is in the end: a bunch of bullshit.
Nicholas Bennett
It feels good, like Barron Trump's smooth bare bottom
Cooper Edwards
I didn't need Russia to tell me that Hillary Clinton was a deranged piece of shit. Her own words and actions- and those of the DNC- pushed me so far away from the Democratic party that I will never vote for any of them again. Fuck your crazy conspiracy theories, and kill yourself while you're at it
Cooper Rodriguez
wow, convincing argument 10/10 im a #cruzmissile #shillforhill now
Grayson Powell
So now it's the greatest nation? What happened to the military industrial complex? What about the institutionalized racism? What about the bigoted patriarchal dominance?
You pussies can't keep your story straight. You get a roody poo WhiteHouse for 8 years and it's obviously someone else's fault nothing gets done. You lose the White House and it's obviously the end of the world.
Just focus on your Feminist Dance degree and enjoy your barista job
Jason Allen
>>>r/MAT >>>r/ETS >>>/leftypol/
Christian Bell
than who told you? as in: who told you the information that led you to make up you own mind (like the super-woke big-boy you are) that using the word "deranged" to describe Hillary isn't hyperbole? Again, this isn't just "Russia told me to vote for Trump". this is: "Russia nudged the surrounding community in a direction that coincidentally led to me voting for trump"
Brayden Wright
>THE SKY IS FALLING CAUSE MY PERSON DIDNT WIN REEEEEEEEEEEE Seriously, if Trump being president is your worst problem you don't have many. OP is a fag as always
Daniel Cox
we're way past "i should have voted for Shillary" this isn't just about the election and I don't care who you vote for. this is about the fact that people feel the need to form both a group called "antifa" and conversely one called "anti-antifa" to protect themselves from a bogeyman created, in part, by Russia.
The Dems fucked up big time with Clinton but realistically we'd be much better off with "business as usual"
Russia doesn't give a shit about our policies, they don't give a shit if two dudes can get married or how much taxes you pay.
their focus was solely on pot-stirring which is exactly what Trump's victory produces.
I've got the poster above you telling me to kill myself because if I don't like trump I must be part of the perceived "enemy". we've got people fucking rioting and flocking to nationalist groups like it's 1930.
Matthew Hernandez
>this isn't about the election >it's about trump getting elected ???????????
Dominic Davis
The only thing I've seen or heard is accusations. Where is the evidence?
William Peterson
Also >I've got the poster above you telling me to kill myself because if I don't like trump I must be part of the perceived "enemy". >being this blatantly new to Sup Forums I hope they're not paying you much because they're certainly not getting their money's worth
Isaac Fisher
the entire fact that you are talking to me as if you know who I am, as if i was part of some organization who has talked about any of the things you mentioned is exactly my point.
I'm not even registered as Democrat, I don't go on tirades about "bigoted patriarchal dominance". Believe it or not you don't lock yourself in to one side of every opinion ever by filling in a square on a ballot. you're actually supposed to come up with your opinion on each issue independently but everyone seems to have forgotten that.
My primary political stance is "I want America be successful, hold onto global dominance, establish hegemony, build spaceships"
think of it this way: imagine playing a 4x strategy game like Civ or EU4. you get an event for +X unrest to all cities or whatever. i think we both agree this is bad, it doesn't matter what the little block of text explaining why says. it doesn't matter if you're getting X unrest because gay marriage is legal or Muslims are banned what matters is that this negatively effects you.
Thomas Rivera
>I want America be successful, hold onto global dominance, establish hegemony >so you Sup Forums tools should have voted for Hillary with her golden foreign policy track record
Christian Wood
whoah, plot twist, making up a statement to help your point. but in order for this to work the other guy was to have said it... obvious solution, fake quote
Parker Jenkins
where do i say people Should have voted for Hillary?
Or even that they shouldn't have voted for Trump?
Lucas Morales
youre right weve gotta put a stop to this white privilege starting with police resources pic related
Grayson Jenkins
you are a vapid cunt that doesnt understand whats really going on
sage
Chase Rivera
youre right. its sad how stupid liberals are to believe the russian story. it makes no fucking sense and tehy are willing to take the whole country down in their tantrum. not sure why youre talking to us about it though.
Tyler Cook
>implying Hillary Clinton is "my person" >implying you have a in-depth understanding of my political opinions
classic internet-scum. >TL;DR i'm just gonna flame >does read it, goes in one ear and out the other because cognitive dissonance
Nathaniel Wilson
>I mean I get it, I got sucked into the whole "RT, 9/11 false flag, America is immoral/ no better than the other guy" thing about 5 years ago.
You got sucked into the "muh Russians hacked the election" meme and haven't stopped sucking since. Kill yourself you retarded concern-troll faggot.
Joshua Roberts
>I didn't say those literal exact words prove that I did It's the fucking obvious logical interpretation of what you're saying >How does it feel to be a tool in the downfall of the greatest nation on the planet? >The Dems fucked up big time with Clinton but realistically we'd be much better off with "business as usual" >their focus was solely on pot-stirring which is exactly what Trump's victory produces. Your dancing around saying exactly what you're saying is pathetic and confusing
Jackson Bell
kys you painfully obvious, pathetic, weak-minded shill.
Joshua Harris
>Russian mind control made people mad at government >Russian mind control is making people hate muslims >Russian mind control made everyone vote for Trump >Russian mind control drove the US to literal naziism
Have you considered that Russians might be psychologically manipulating your friends and family too? Are you sure Russians aren't forcing your ISP or landlord to monitor your seditious activities? If nothing else, we can definitely say that Russians are the reason your car broke down last month.
Joshua Campbell
I thought this place was going to be full of geopolitics nerds.
Turns out it's the same crowd as the rest of the internet: Trolls and mental safe-space addicts
Jordan Sanchez
yeahm you're right. Russia has neevr used propaganda in the past
wait no, propganda has never been used ever
wait no, information has no effect on what people think of something
you got it all figured out buddy
Cooper Carter
yeah, let's pretend that you know that I believe Russia "hacked" the election, only further proving my point.
a large part of what i said, if you just had the mental fortitude to absorb it is that they didn't have to collude with Trump or hack anything
Michael Bailey
>How does it feel to be a tool in the downfall of the greatest nation on the planet?
I voted for him because it was funny so it feels pretty good
Joseph Scott
this is the exact mindset that was exploited here.
that you know what's REALLY going on and that the people who disagree with you are just brainwashed shills.
the attitude largely stems from arrogance
Colton Baker
>yeahm you're right. Russia has neevr used propaganda in the past Haha holy shit I think he's starting to cry type
Jack Morales
Neither does the United States. What is your point??
Where is the (((((evidence)))))
Jaxon Stewart
>the combined power of CNN/NBC/NYT/WAPO's 24/7 anti-Trump propaganda hose can't turn Trump's base against him, but some Russian bots spamming RT links on twitter singlehandedly turned the entire country into Nazi Germany.
So are you an equal-opportunity tinfoil hatter or did you spend the Obama years mocking Glenn Beck and his kind?
Charles Murphy
whatever floats you're boat man
if comical nihilism is your thing than it's you're thing.
at least you aren't actually drinking the punch like some of these other guys.
Cooper Nguyen
this I voted for Trump just to experience the socialist backlash so I never have to pay hospital bills again
Oliver Jones
Do you
get paid extra
to post like this
Kevin Martin
End your worthless existence you piece of trash. You do realize how obvious your and your shill friends are right? Are you ShareBlue, CREW or Media Matters?
It always makes me smile when I see shills like you, posting as if everyone else in the thread doesn't realize that you are paid to push an agenda on the internet. That's just sad.
You leftist shills will all be punished for your treason, and soon. Sleep tight little shill, your days are numbered.
Liam Robinson
I already don't pay them, what are they gonna do about it
Parker Martin
Nah this one isn't SB, just insane.
Kevin Turner
it's hard to be in an argument-circlejerk with 10 people while maintaining flawless typing ability
what's funny is that lefties on facebook do the exact same shit when you disagree with them. they all just gather-round and agree with each other till they get off.
Mason Reyes
>being this new
Antifa has been around for decades.
Jonathan Wright
It has nothing to do with Russia, this was inevitable.
Lincoln Lee
>they all just gather-round and agree with each other till they get off. you just described literally any ingroup/outgroup behavior pattern, including Sup Forums
Austin King
>when you enter a group's space and attack them and their shared stances they tend to all disagree with you Wow no way
Zachary Garcia
and Syrians didnt need the CIA and friends to tell them Assad was and still is a douche bag
your point?
Jordan Bell
It's hard to tell these days, especially now that (((they))) have poisoned the minds of the stupid, impressionable normals like the moron shitting up this thread with the fake Russia news.
Jack Flores
yeah, im insane, the guy speaking rationally about an event
you, the guy who says that i'm a professional disinformation agent rattling off some shit they read on a fake-news website are clearly the sane one here.
please dude, start killing all the lefties just so I can take solace in the fact that I was right
you fucking idiots are all so sure that you're right which is exactly what allows you to be so pathetically wrong.
Hunter Brooks
No one cares, We still get neet bux
Liam Rodriguez
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Jonathan Wilson
>yeah, im insane, the guy speaking rationally about an event that didn't happen and still haven't pointed to any actual proof that it happened You realize that you're buying into the Trump version of the birther movement, right
Jackson Cooper
oh wow i thought this was a politics board where people discussed, yanno, current events and ideologies and whatnot.
I forgot that this is actually just a big factory that makes closed-minded, salty people who all agree with eachother.
Josiah Martinez
I hate Trump, I hate Hillary, I hate Boinie, I hate all of the current aristocrats. Fuck you OP, fuck your conspiracy theory. The problem isn't Russia, you fell for the bait of the big dogs hook line and sinker and I hope you're one of the conscripts to die on the front lines when they initiate World War 3 after all this populace pitting they've done here and in Russia.
Caleb Walker
Whether or not Trump colluded with Russia is practically irrelevant at this point.
It's abundantly clear that he's too stupid for the position. This is not an impeachable offense, obviously, but these stories aren't going away. At some point, he'll reach his limit. Whether any of you can admit it: he's human. He'll have a legitimate mental breakdown and it is going to be historically ugly. People are going to see him in a way that they're not prepared for.
He's going to resign, but my prediction is that this is still a ways away. Probably a year or so. Likely before the 2018 midterms, however.
Charles Reyes
my intention was never to build the system but to tear it apart from the inside and expose it's blackened failures. Trump was the only candidate willing to do that. No one trusts politicians or the media any longer. Taking the redpill is the only foreseeable outcome for the masses. It has always been and always will be for the lulz.
Jackson Walker
>close-minded, salty people
Jayden King
Shit, I'm so salty, idiodic, and insane that I forgot my image
Hunter Nelson
>Hillary campaign spends the better part of a year convincing half the country Trump is racist/sexist/dangerous/unhinged/stupid/etc because she's a shit candidate with nothing positive about her so all they could do was attack her opponent >lose, not according to plan >"It's Trump & Russia's fault the country is so divided!"
What did he mean by this.
Nolan Bennett
TLDR after "How does it feel to be a tool in the downfall of the greatest nation on the planet?
This Russian pych-warfare campaign..."
Jeremiah Lopez
>my intention was never to build the system but to tear it apart from the inside and expose it's blackened failures. >Trump was the only candidate willing to do that.
your fucking joking right?
>No one trusts politicians or the media any longer
you always rail against potential business interests behind politicians and you decide to go elect that confirmed business interest behind politicians
Robert Roberts
Nah dude you don't get it, if Hillary had won then everyone would be singing Kumbaya right now and Russia would be swallowed up by the earth
Andrew Howard
who else is feeling /sleepy/ yawn time to go to sleep
Nathan Miller
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Tyler Butler
Russia destroying ZOG was the best thing they could ever do. Can't wait for full fledged Balkanization before 2020.
Blake White
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Liam Robinson
so I need to prove that Russia and America are rivals? or that social engineering exists? or that RT is propaganda? or that if you run enough stories about Muslims doing bad shit that the people who consume your media might develop xenophobic opinions?
just go to RT's website and identify their bias just like you (hopefully) would any other source of information.
sure dude be right back after i finish writing the 100 page report on have propaganda works.
unless you, like most of these other jackasses think i'm talking about collusion or hacking or whatever which just shows you didn't actually read/absorb what i said.
James Phillips
You're not being rational you dumb cuck. If you actually believe what you're writing then you must be stupid enough to be fooled by The Worst Journalist of the Year Don Lemon (Worst Journalist of the Year) and his friends at the cuck news network.
Take some time and lurk here, that means just READ and do not post until you know what you're talking about.
Easton Campbell
>"It's Trump & Russia's fault the country is so divided!"
This isn't untrue, though.
The dems and Hillary were legit retarded that they thought they could run on a platform of "well at least i'm not that other guy" while not elaborating on her policies and becoming increasingly more unlikable/shady throughout the pre-election process. Trump's stance of bringing back jobs AND having a personality were the 2 things that won him this election. You think Michigan and Wisconsin turned red because of "the wall" or "muh evil media"?
Ryan Peterson
I just woke up from a nap and have lots of energy
Samuel Davis
remidner that plebit niggers that take baits like these are the reason why these shills dont realize noone gives a shit about them plebinigers, if you want to stay, learn to tell people to fuck off without needing to give explications ty
Christian Thomas
>Russia exposed the truth about Hillary which led me to vote for Trump Does it really matter who exposed it? If the wikileaks leakers were brazilians, or germans, or finns, or whoever, what difference does it make? Why is the nationality of them relevant?
Jaxon Perez
>if you run enough stories about Muslims doing bad shit that the people who consume your media might develop xenophobic opinions?
Who the fuck watches RT? Are you that retarded? Do you really believe that RT is responsible for our bad opinion about Muslims? Watta lame faggot you are.....
Brody Torres
>so I need to prove that Russia and America are rivals? or that social engineering exists? or that RT is propaganda? You and I disagree with each other. Fertilizer exists. Fertilizer can be made to use bombs. Therefore you are plotting to blow up my house. What do you mean I need proof? Why are you being a dick? Circumstances are all the proof I need to have you arrested for terrorism apparently
Luke Hernandez
now hold up buddy
>populace pitting
now we're getting somehwere
the problem is you seem to be missing the part where feeding nationalist, separatist and extremist movements is a workable strategy in a world where open conflict is impossible
im not going to jump to conclusions but you seem to be referring to some kind of Rothschild, Illuminati conspiracy which means you still have allot to learn about yanno, reality and stuff
i wish it was a simple as some singular entity with a singular agenda that i could blame for everything. sadly here on Earth things are a bit more complicated.
Kayden Allen
Feels great. Sup Forums is a board of peace. We're always welcoming to newfriends. Make yourself at home!
Cooper Peterson
>i wish it was a simple as some singular entity with a singular agenda that i could blame for everything. >This Russian pych-warfare campaign is so painfully obvious that it's downright head-spinning that it's actually working. Why do you contradict yourself further with every single post you make?
Leo Brooks
>TL;DR >nice novel faggot >sage
Grayson Allen
I think you're giving too much credit to Russia, sure they've been nudging and prodding, but we did this to ourselves. Our elites have completely captured our government and media at the expense of the general populace. Their economic policies have wrecked the middle-class. Their divide and conquer policies have diverted attention from this fact while creating the conditions for the Antifa, Anti-Antifa that we are seeing today. The Russians didn't break the Roosevelt coalition with the Southern Strategy. Any mainstream Dem or Rep are pretty much the same thing, they are going to represent the elites and their interests, do you think we'd be seeing what we are today in the media had Jeb won? How about what we've seen in the streets? Trump came out of left field and judging from the reaction in the media and in the streets, the elites are out to take him out. Something had to give this country was being run into the ground. If neoliberals don't like democracy well then that's telling. This is why I'm glad Trump won and why I think it's a good thing. Is Trump perfect, fuck no, but he has the elites scared and I love it, Chemotherapy sucks, but if you have terminal cancer what other choice do you have?
Dominic Nguyen
Russian psyche warfare lol. Russia is as jewish as the usa fag
Michael Gonzalez
because i'd rather continue being the top superpower under someone who is dishonest than fade into obscurity under an honest leader
Camden Cook
You're ignorant of the big picture. They made this conspiracy theory so idiots like you and the people you preach to will be warmer to the idea of war against Russia. You fell for the bait.
You are thus responsible for the millions of innocents that will die. As it is, you are scum.
Chase Ross
it really is the jews the russians have goals that make sense and are important for their future power prospects the jews are just fucking sick
Jonathan Fisher
Shouldn't that be the other way round? Or am I reading it wrong...
High supply = lower price High demand = higher price
No?
Luis Morris
if you need to find contradictions to maintain your world-view in an argument, they suddenly start to pop up everywhere.
saying Russia uses propaganda to fuel unrest in other countries is not the same as saying the illuminati controls the entire world.
the former is a fact, the second is an easy to hold opinion due to the fact that it simplifies what is in reality a mind-spinning-ly complicated world
Brandon Martin
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Blake Edwards
the fact that you think Jews have anything to do with this tells me you're probably a lost cause
Landon King
There's a difference between saying Russia engages in propaganda, and taking that to the ridiculous conclusion of saying that Russia's psyops was directly responsible for getting Trump elected
Cooper Cox
>IMPLYING AMERICA CAN COLONIZE SPACE WITHOUT WHITE PEOPLE Deluded retard still believes that Americanism means anything. Race matters. The American gov't is irrelevant because you can't have American society, culture, economy and technology with imported 3rd world shitskins.
If you want America to remain hegemon then you've got to be against shitskin invasions. We spend 100x NASA's budget yearly on welfare for brown people who will never have triple-digit IQ's.
Adam Cooper
>United States >Greatest nation
Obama fixed that in 8 years.
More like laughing stock.
Jose Rogers
I knew what I voted for. I determined any Trump outcome would bring me more enjoyment than a Hillary outcome
Aiden Barnes
except i'm not warm to the idea of war with Russia because I know what that would entail.
the idea that there is a global elite plotting to bring war against Russia is exactly the kind of shit their propaganda spoonfeeds you.
doesn't it seem at all odd to you that that viewpoint provides cover for their aggressive expansion?
Russia invades X country, NATO gears up to strong arm them into behaving like a civilized country, suddenly their populaces all believe there is an Illuminati conspiracy to go to war with Russia
doesn't that seem a little convenient to you?
Hudson Howard
okay man, honestly you are just scum
you should develop your brain to a level where you don't have to explain everything away with some boogeyman.
Jose Martin
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Noah Garcia
>I wish it was a simple as some singular entity with a singular agenda that i could blame for everything. Sit down new friend, it's time that we had a talk about jews.
Samuel Sanders
yeah, because nobody is laughing at Trump, right?
he's just a well-spoken man who everyone takes very seriously, yeah?
Dominic Martinez
>your use of a boogeyman is dumb >my use of a boogeyman is enlightened and non-problematic
Gavin Perry
The Hillary campaign did more damage to our country's unity than Trump could ever hope to and she's still out there whipping her indoctrinated followers up into a frenzy. All over being a salty, sociopathic narcissist who can't understand how her actions, or rather lack there of, caused her to lose.
If Russia wanted to destabilize this country they should be writing hand written thank you cards to the Hillary 2016 campaign strategists because they didn't have to do shit, she literally ripped the country in two in her quest for power. Her whole campaign focused on making Trump a monster and now people believe they are fighting against a monstrous dictatorship hell bent on destroying the country. While the other half is defending its belief that Trump might not be perfect but at least give him a shot to follow through on his major campaign promises. Because before this election, if your candidate lost you hoped they did good by the country. But post Hillary they'd rather the country collapse than for Trump to succeed.
Henry James
>this You noobs never heard of the Jew-Nazi cycle?
Easton Price
funny how someone who is a member of the demographic holding the world back (backwards, racist, closed minded, etc) is acting like they know what's holding us back
David Roberts
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Parker Cox
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Kayden Fisher
I like how the OP is slowly losing his ability to restrain from going into his normal sjw talking points