Hi there, Sup Forums, I heard you are big on red pilling people

Hi there, Sup Forums, I heard you are big on red pilling people.
I am leftist, a globalist, a liberal, blue pilled, whatever you want to call me.

So I am here to give you the chance to red pill me. We can talk about whatever you want, but here are a few suggestions to start the conversation:

>Why should I want a conservative society?
>How can we fix global issues like global warming if we all live in nationalistic societies who do not care about the world as a whole?
>Why are socialist ideas like a universal basic income for everyone bad when soon most jobs will be automated? What is the alternative?

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Kill yourself.

Good argument. I am sure you will change people's believes like that.

Why should I care about what the fuck views you have you anonymous nobody? Stop being an attention whore

Because you want to spread your ideas? But I guess people here just want to have their little hug box, jerking each other off about their believes instead.

Asking pol about things you can easily figure out by yourself.

lurk more faggot

Kill yourself.

>Why are socialist ideas like a universal basic income for everyone bad when soon most jobs will be automated? What is the alternative?
Why would we preemptively make policy based on people who think they can predict the future- especially the future of technology?
History tells us that technology predictions are almost ALWAYS way off.

>give you the chance
oh to be the kind of self involved shitheel that believes they're anything but a constant burden on society. I hope that when you do finally shove enough pills in to your gut that you choke and die on them.

>soon most jobs will be automated

cash registers and amazon packages are not 'most jobs'

I do agree that it is to early right now, or even in the next few years, but it is something that should happen eventually and right wing conservatives really seem to hate the idea of ever having it, both now and in the future.

But they are a percentage of jobs which is getting automated and this percentage will only grow larger.

Boy there is an awful lot of dodging and profanity in this thread, for a group of people being so smug about the superiority of their arguments Sup Forums sure has a hard time to put forth anything :^)

>sage

also

>How can we fix global issues like global warming if we all live in nationalistic societies who do not care about the world as a whole?

how does muslims raping your neighbor's daughter fix global warming? Globalism and multiculturalism make literally no contribution to a single global issue. Liberals actually believe that tweeting about wonder woman and forcing employers to prefer unqualified niggers saves the planet. I don't know how to counter an argument that already has no basis even in its own context

>cash registers and amazon packages are not 'most jobs'

No, but _driving_ /is/ most jobs, ya dimwit.

The real fun is when people like me automate out 99% of all white collar jobs. Seriously, you think HR departments need to exist anymore? IT? Any administration level paper pushing? Accountants? Managers of anything? Even programmers are quickly becoming obsolete. The entire US government just switched to a new data standard (open data act) BECAUSE it's the first step in automation most government jobs.

We're 3 years from LA being fully autonomous within the 30 mile zone. GOOD LUCK NIGGAS

lurk moar faggot

>3 years from LA being fully autonomous

is this a flying cars by 2000 thing again

A welfare state is fine in a society, homogenous in the sense that everyone has pride and a strong work ethic, and doesn't want to be collecting benefits if they don't have to.

The bitter pill to swallow for you Europeans is, that we Americans have always been more anti-welfare than you all because we're more experienced with diveristy, particularly blacks. If we were an all-white country like Finland or Denmark, I have no doubt we would have a Scandinavian social democracy model.

As you've opened your doors to hordes of third worlders with lower IQs and very often, chips on their shoulder about whitey, feeling they're "owed" something, you'll have to learn the hard way what the average white American Republican understands, who goes to Wal-Mart and sees it full of non-whites with tons of children, who don't speak English and don't care to assimilate, swiping their EBT card.

Fuck you kraut cunt. There is no hope for you beyond the rope.

if multiKULTi and globalists won, there won't be any more Misaki/Iowa in 3D world, ergo there will be none in 2D lands.
Save the white race for the future of our waifus!

>Why should I want a conservative society?
Solltest du nicht, aber eine eine liberale Welt ist grotesk. Deutschland sollte wie ein Militär sein.
>How can we fix global issues like global warming if we all live in nationalistic societies who do not care about the world as a whole?
Weil alles andere Zeitverschwendung wäre
>Why are socialist ideas like a universal basic income for everyone bad when soon most jobs will be automated? What is the alternative?
Sogenannter demokratischer Sozialismus wächst aus Hass auf glückliche Menschen.

The majority of us aren't like this. Most of us would like every country to be free and independent.

Well youre not really coming here with an open mind, youre coming here to spread your globalist nonsense. If the mass rape and terror attacks in your country havent made you believe in closed borders and nationalism, then what will? And you cans still combat global warming without having a globalist one world state, after all nationalistic and fascist countties in the past did cooperate with one another.

The living wage crap is so illogical. Everyone gets free money just for being alive all the while stealing from those who worked for their money. No not a good idea. People should work for a living rather than becoming dependant on handouts. And do i need to remind you that every attempt at socialism has failed - and that the Nordics arent socialist

>Why should I want a conservative society?
it's in the name, moron
you krauts had a great thing up til the late 90s, lived there
even with the reunification tax
strong economy, german values, working hard, not taking advantage of the systems for gibs, cohesive society, great culture, superb musical tradition
wouldn't you want to keep that?
all of a sudden you import millions of unskilled, uncultured migrants, with no respect for your culture or values, which are a net drag because they only want the gibs, and don't contribute to real jobs
and because they outbreed the existing pop, it won't get any better
congrats, you got multikulti

but you're not probably even german. chances tell me you're a turk

>Globalism and multiculturalism make literally no contribution to a single global issue.

Yes they do. The more global our societies become the easier it is to make global laws and actually enforce them. Right now the world leaders can simply plug their ears when it comes to global warming and pretend it doesn't exist, like Trump does. If there was something like a global government that could force every country to abide by certain laws it would be much easier to fix global warming.

>Liberals actually believe that tweeting about wonder woman and forcing employers to prefer unqualified niggers saves the planet

No, they are separate issues with separate solutions.

>A welfare state is fine in a society, homogenous in the sense that everyone has pride and a strong work ethic, and doesn't want to be collecting benefits if they don't have to.

No, that is the ideal. I am not so delude to believe that a welfare state is perfect and they won't be people trying to milk it, but I believe it is the best for the living standard of the average person. There are going to be less and less jobs available for the average worker and this will lead to an increase in poverty and divide between the rich and poor. A welfare state can actually combat that.

>The bitter pill to swallow for you Europeans is, that we Americans have always been more anti-welfare than you all because we're more experienced with diveristy, particularly blacks.

You Americans were strongly against welfare before blacks had any claims to welfare, back when they were still slaves.

If nationalist like Sup Forums won there would be no Iowa either because everything coming from another country is evil.

I wish I could believe that truly I do. I don't want to hate Germans but I'm serious ever single German I've ever met in real life was a typical left wing sjw cuck.

You yourself are quite smug. Sup Forumsacks arent on pol to redpill normies, theyre here to enjoy themselves. They use twitter facebook youtube and all that crap for dropping actual redpils

>>Why are socialist ideas like a universal basic income for everyone bad when soon most jobs will be automated? What is the alternative?

fuck off we are full

Now i'm more motivated than ever.

First red pill: anime is for fags

>I am leftist,

Come visit our countrysides. Far more agreeable folk, culturally minded and all.

>a liberal

>If nationalist like Sup Forums won there would be no Iowa either because everything coming from another country is evil.
kys

Fuck off back to your third world shithole Ahmed.

>a globalist

What is the problem you wankers have understanding about climate change? I'm as right wing and conservative as they come and I believe climate change is happening.

I just don't believe humans can prevent it and I have seen zero evidence to support that it is possible.

Also stop calling yourself a liberal if you believe in high taxation and enforcing laws on a global populace. You are a text book authoritarian then, not a liberal.

Maybe that is what I should do. I've been mostly restricted to cities so far in Germany.

Is there hope for Germany still?

>Solltest du nicht, aber eine eine liberale Welt ist grotesk.
Warum?
>Deutschland sollte wie ein Militär sein.
Wie meinst du das?

>Sogenannter demokratischer Sozialismus wächst aus Hass auf glückliche Menschen.
Nein, es ist das Resultat von einer Gesellschaft in der sich reich und arm immer mehr underscheiden.

>Well youre not really coming here with an open mind
What the fuck? I am coming here with people who pretty much have the polar opposite of my opinion, it doesn't get much more open minded.

I do of course have my political believes which is why I am giving you the chance to change them with arguments. Telling me to lurk more or kill myself obviously won't though.

>If the mass rape and terror attacks in your country

We had 1 successful terror attack in Germany. Mass rapes didn't happen either. Yes, individual rapes happened but the refugees committing them are few and far in between. Should we punish all of them for the actions of a few? Most refugees came here because their life is in danger and taking in refugees whose life is in danger is something written into our Grundgesetz.

> And you cans still combat global warming without having a globalist one world state

There is not much success on that front so far. China doesn't care, Russia doesn't care and as of recently America doesn't care anymore either.

>Why should I want a conservative society?
Because niggers will not rape and kill your children then.
>How can we fix global issues like global warming
Kikes cant spread this hoax if they are gassed.
>when soon most jobs will be automated
We will talk about it when it actually happens.

Why are Germans so obsessed with global warming? Genuinely curious about this

Most of it, yes. We just need a period of reeducation once this current madness has expired.

>Why should I want a conservative society?
It's not a question of being conservative or not. It's a question of asking why instead of when, whenever a change is proposed.

>How can we fix global issues like global warming if we all live in nationalistic societies who do not care about the world as a whole?
The same reason HOAs work. People love their homes and generally hate their neighbors, and yet they make it work. Why shouldn't the same principle apply to a larger scale? No matter how you're organized, you're always going to have to deal with human shortcomings (greed, lust, etc). It'll always seep into what you're doing, so centralizing everything is the worse choice you can make. The best thing that can be done is segregate humans down to their ethnicities and that each functions in the best way that is appropriate to them.
Globalism and multiculturalism are failed theories, hence why there's been a push towards glocalization for at least 5 years.

>Why are socialist ideas like a universal basic income for everyone bad when soon most jobs will be automated? What is the alternative?
They're bad because of the social policies that are implemented and being pursued. These social policies in conjunction with UBI will lead to collapse because of the fracture in cycles of civilization between Western populations and the third-world. The only thing that will result is in unprecedented mass immigration and birthrates until all resources are gone, essentially turning the human race into locusts, until the Earth has no more to give and we go the way of the dinosaurs. There's already too many people on Earth and we're already using resources at a suicidal rate. ( archive.is/AbrgB ). While politicians are saying that we need an increase in population, truth is we need a decrease.
There is no alternative. Sooner or later it will be implemented. The only question is whether we'll be extinct because of it or not.

END Money Printing Central Banks ; End The FED
A dishonest money system corrupts everything

>It's not a question of being conservative or not. It's a question of asking why instead of when, whenever a change is proposed.

Welfare state is not the same as communism. I think some inequality is acceptable and this is where I differ from communists, I only see the increasing divide between rich and poor and the redistribution of wealth in form of a basic income combats that. I do not want actual communism.

You are on an anime website. Pic related

Nice counter argument, you convinced me :^)

Ich bin nicht nur hier geboren, ich komme aus Schleswig-Holstein und habe blaue Augen und blonde Haare, ich bin weißer als 99% der Poster hier :^)

> I'm as right wing and conservative as they come and I believe climate change is happening.

You are? Then what do you say to Trump supporters, Info wars listeners and other conservatives here on Sup Forums who believe its either fake or real but not made?

>I just don't believe humans can prevent it and I have seen zero evidence to support that it is possible.

Why wouldn't humans be able to prevent it when they are causing it? We can literally prevent it by stopping to cause it. Stopping to burn 35 billion barrels of oil a year would be a good start.

Globalization being a good thing is the greatest piece of propaganda the Elites pushed on the left through emotional appeal. Under the demonstrable empty rhetoric of “all people come together in a multicultural utopia in a world without borders” is has allowed unprecedented amounts of wealth and power to be consolidate in the hands of corporations that have no loyalty to any nation, people or region.
Constantly outsourcing labor to have all people compete on a global market to drive down production cost and working condition, while pooling wealth in the hands of a few allowed the gap between the rich and the poor to widen even further. Social mobility is completely eradicated by now. All the while the cries of “racism and xenophobia” can be gleefully leveled against anybody who does not like it, all the while more people with low tolerance for propaganda style themselves as “global citizens” to feel morally superior, while they are actually grow poorer, no matter where they decide to live.

>We had 1 successful terror attack in Germany
and how many attempted terror attacks? terrorism is fine to you if it doesn't succeed, eh?

>Mass rapes didn't happen either.
mass sexual assaults did, but that's fine, too

>Most refugees came here because their life is in danger
that's why 40% of all middle eastern refugees are 20~40 year old men
who don't work and take in state welfare
and then send that sweet free cash home to their family

your real answer is extreme vetting, and putting a cap on the total number of migrants depending on your infrastructure

Also, why don't you ever advocate for another muslim country, like Saudi Arabia, to take in more migrants? they'd have a lot better time assimilating, instead of going around forcing sharia law down westerners' throats

>global warming
the average temperature of the earth rose by

ONE
WHOPPING
CELSIUS

during the last 100 years
have fun combatting your boogeyman
they also call it "climate change", haven't you been keeping up with your hoax memes?

This is the problem with you lefties. You literally do not know what you are talking about, and demand policy to be formed to address a situation that does not happen the way you imagine it to.

I do process automation. I literally develop systems to maximize the amount of work that can be done, by as few people as possible.

Let me give you a quick thinking experiment.

What happened to the brick & mortar video stores when the internet came around? They shut down. What came as a result? An entirely new industry to support it.

What happened during the industrial revolution? Industry shifted, and in its place many, many more popped up which required even more workers to support.

And so on, and so forth.

If you want to prevent a problem from happening, you can do so by not importing millions of unskilled, do-nothing layabouts that you seem to be calling "refugees" for some reason... but let's face it: they are slaves by another name. Not that you guys will ever admit it to yourselves.

The jobs we have today are not the "be all end all". There will always be more industry to pop up, creating new work, and more jobs.

Whether those jobs will pay or not, that's the difference and that is entirely dependent on whether or not you stop importing millions of people to your country or not.

Red pill yourself, you are the only one who can discover the truth, not asking Sup Forums to do it for you.

We were against welfare back when blacks were slaves? Wow you leftists are stupid. There was nothing even resembling social programs or government intervention into the economy until FDR, nearly a century after the US banned slavery.

People as stupid as you deserve to lose your country, and first world living standards, crime rates, but it's all the based, reasonable people in your country I feel bad for, as well as your children.

Jews control your mind.

Yeah, keep asking them why at point 3. Since they have no concrete evidence, they'll never be able to pass on to point 4. Don't let them lay out their "arguments", just keep asking why.

Blabla lefty stuff!
As an Austrian who hates you guys it is a joy seeing you go down.

Can't wait for the next good refugee to blow up let's say a school cinema or mall! :)

One last thing i can say is that no matter how far you crawl up a migrant ass, you will still be a infidel!

Why do we need to import tons of shitskins if workplaces will disappear?

Checkmate libshits

lurk faggot

Unlike your left wing hiveminds, this place has varying ideas on what is and isn't true. That is the ultimate red pill on right wing conservatism, we allow the opportunity for all ideas and opinions to exists. Left wing, "liberals" don't tolerate differing opinions.

I don't care about infowars or Trump. If global warming is happening it is a good thing for mankind and the environment. Huge swathes of our planet will become habitable again as a result of this.

There is no evidence that humans can prevent this climate change so we may as well adapt to it rather than cry about it.

Our media wont shut up about it and guilt tripping us about holocausting the planet.

Faggot
Faggot
Faggot

That's what you are.

Kill yourself kraut.

There, the redpill. Kill your own self. Faggot.

Fucking german faggot. Cancer of Europe.

Faggot. You're worse than a jew.

Faggot. KYS.

the short answer is that the state should never be trusted. this is at the core of all western literature and thought, from the torah to the economic market. no group is so pure as to have authority over the soul of another
the long answer is that humans have a biological imperative to compete, and that inequality is inherent to human society as a result. we should work hard to create equal opportunities to enter 'the game' and access society, the workforce, the marketplace of ideas
we should not however have everything given to us. i was once like you, before i understood where my deep depressions and anxieties where coming from. i loved games and arguing; proxies for competition, and i became happier and more fulfilled as i embraced competition in more avenues of my life. my experience generalizes to almost all humans, and behavioural psychology, existential/stoic philosophy, judeo-christian thought, and sociological analysis of modern societies (and especially modern welfare state) all support this.
beyond this, i suggest you read and digest for yourself
read criticisms of the welfare state
read theories around values systems and learn about what actually makes a person a member of society. we are not just individuals in a melting pot, the chains that bind us are deep, and were very closely tied to geography, before the modern sailboat.
and once you understand how societies are more than just the individual, learn what make our western culture unique. learn the classics. study the greeks. study the bible, it's the most thorough takedown of the state -and elevation of the rights of the human- in all of history, and there's a reason the bible and the modern world have occurred together.
finally, learn about prosperity and morality. it is easy to be kind and virtuous when we are prosperous. you must understand that you are a monster, and you are simply not yet hungry. read jung, spinoza, neitzche, and dostoyevski. at least.
godspeed

>Kikes cant spread this hoax if they are gassed.
Why do you think it is a hoax?

>The same reason HOAs work. People love their homes and generally hate their neighbors, and yet they make it work. Why shouldn't the same principle apply to a larger scale?

Because HOAs don't need to solve global problems like global warming. Because people care much more about their neighbors than some guy from the other side of the world.
But I guess I will ask differently, how DO you think we can solve global warming instead?

>The best thing that can be done is segregate humans down to their ethnicities and that each functions in the best way that is appropriate to them.
Why should people be separated on that basis? What do you gain?

>These social policies in conjunction with UBI will lead to collapse because of the fracture in cycles of civilization between Western populations and the third-world
You state that like it's an undisputed fact. Explain why it would lead to a collapse.

>The only thing that will result is in unprecedented mass immigration and birthrates
How so? Especially impoverished people have high birth rates while middle class families often only have one or no children.

>There's already too many people on Earth and we're already using resources at a suicidal rate.
I agree and the solution to is to use less resources. Electric cars and solar energies would be a massive step to reduce human resource consumption. Conservatives and republicans like Trumps go aggressively against them and try to bring back the oil industry instead.

>While politicians are saying that we need an increase in population, truth is we need a decrease.
I actually completely agree with that, then why is it always conservatives who tell me to find a wife and have 10 children?

earth is flat

It's safer in Syria than Mexico, no thanks.

If you are german there is only one cure for you and thats bullet.

>German
>Not redpilled

You're literally the reason your continent faces rape and destruction. Your anscestors, if you have any, will shit on you.

>Left wing, "liberals" don't tolerate differing opinions.

You would be surprised, but amazingly enough people at the opposite side of your political spectrum have different opinions too. What a shock!

>I don't care about infowars or Trump. If global warming is happening it is a good thing for mankind and the environment. Huge swathes of our planet will become habitable again as a result of this.

What? if large parts of the world dry out because of the increased heat then that leads to more habitable places?

>There is no evidence that humans can prevent this climate change so we may as well adapt to it rather than cry about it.

Again: we are causing climate change. This is a fact, something almost every climate scientist agrees on. We don't even have to cool the earth, we just have to stop being the ones heating it up.

>and how many attempted terror attacks? terrorism is fine to you if it doesn't succeed, eh?

Fine? No. But it is not acceptable to risk the lives of millions of refugees running from war for try to fight a terrorist attack that wasn't even successful.

>mass sexual assaults did, but that's fine, too
Sexual assault is a big step down from rape. Drunk assholes have groped women on new years eve before and they weren't tossed out from the country.

And again this is a small minority of refugees doing this, most of them haven't raped, molested or killed anyone while they were here.

>that's why 40% of all middle eastern refugees are 20~40 year old men
Yes they are, your point being?

>who don't work and take in state welfare
They aren't even allowed to work for a long time after they arrive here. Of course they need state welfare, or are we supposed to literally have them starve to death?

>and then send that sweet free cash home to their family
That's news to me. Even if they did, there wouldn't be much left considering they barely get more than they need to survive.

The climate change issue is entirely a false set of choices created by Democrats as an attempt on scientific dogma. It's not a binary choice and we don't need Democrats to fix it. Republicans are rightly prioritizing other things because Democrats are making compromise impossible.

>how DO you think we can solve global warming instead?
gee, i don't think human beans can stop a naturally occuring cycle in the earth's climate history
can you prove to me that the current measly warming (barely any increase in average temperature) is for sure due to human CO2 emissions? how many estimations do climate change "scientists" have to get wrong before you're satisfied? "Manhattan will be underwater by 2010. No, 2015. No, wait, we meant 2050."

>solar energies
how many solar panels do you think you'll need just to keep ONE of your cities running with pure solar power? how many square miles of land? how many integrations into your already existing electrical grid?

you do realize conservatives don't disagree with renewable energy. they disagree with CURRENT "green energy" that's inefficient as shit and corrupt as fuck. all green energy has done for you is make it so that it's impossibly hard to start any business that involves manufacturing. all the republican congress has done is just roll back on those stupid regulations, yet lefties act like he's conspiring to end the world.

>Mass immigration is bad
>Humans are made up of different races but no race is worth more than another.
>Islam is not compatbile with western society
>Globalism/Multiculturalism will destroy western society
>Socialist ideas only work in ethno states
>Jewish elitists (Not jews as a whole) try to subvert western countries.

>Also, why don't you ever advocate for another muslim country, like Saudi Arabia, to take in more migrants? they'd have a lot better time assimilating, instead of going around forcing sharia law down westerners' throats

But I do and Turkey took in more refugees from Syria than any other country. Every country that can should help those fleeing from war.

>the average temperature of the earth rose by ONEWHOPPINGCELSIUS during the last 100 years

Climate change is only going to increase now that countries like China and India are industrialized. Even Africa is starting to get industrialized. Even if climate change will not have a large effect on our generation, are you okay with people 500 years from now having serious problems because of the selfishness of this generation? I would like to leave an inhabitable world behind for my children.

>Fine? No. But it is not acceptable to risk the lives of millions of refugees running from war for try to fight a terrorist attack that wasn't even successful.
A good part of these refugees is not even from war torn countries and basically only flees poverty. Most refugees are 20-40 year old men. If these people who could easily join an armed force come here then who gets left behind? Women, children and ill people. The most vulnerable get left behind by the ones who could protect them. It is the ugly truth but a war is not going to get better if the people who could protect their families run away.

kys flattard

>What? if large parts of the world dry out because of the increased heat then that leads to more habitable places?
no, a warmer earth is a wetter earth. more carbon, more water, means more plants. we have the lowest level of fauna in any non-cataclysmic period at the moment, the lowest carbon levels, too. we're actually looking at entering a full ice age soon, if carbon continues to deplete
>Sexual assault is a big step down from rape. Drunk assholes have groped women on new years eve before and they weren't tossed out from the country.
they cornered over a thousand women, more than a hundred were raped, all experienced taht real threat
>while they were here
that says it right? i think rapists should be killed, you just think they should be put in hte corner
> Of course they need state welfare
that's why theyre coming. only ~5% are actually refugees, most are north african economic migrant that come accros through libya anyway.

1: you allow different opinions, except if its left-wing. see how the first comment says: "kill yourelf"?

2: there may be no evidence we can stop it, but there is also no evidence we cannot. as a dutchman, whos country will largely flood becouse of this i can at least ask to try.

stereotypical Sup Forums points

wrong as always

>no proof
>ignores that it's the popular answer because it's correct
of course your bulgarian. just move to turkey already. erdogans gonna be raping you soon anyway

>But it is not acceptable to risk the lives of millions of refugees running from war for try to fight a terrorist attack that wasn't even successful.
yeah, wouldn't it be great if another muslim country took in migrants? Like, Saudi Arabia, for example? Kuwait? Yemen?

>Drunk assholes have groped women on new years eve before and they weren't tossed out from the country.
yeah, and they got jailed/fined. what punishments did the migrant sex aggressors face? i'm fine with taking migrants IF they're willing to ASSIMILATE. and the hard truth is, muslims don't assimilate into western culture. "moderate" muslims are complicit in terrorist activities. they professed that they will not be active in stopping extremist muslims, because it violates their faith. if you want them to assimilate, perhaps you should enforce your virtues and principles on them when it matters - if you have any virtues or principles left, that is, aside from "let's be kind and caring!" which is hardly a virtue at all. it's just naivism.

>Every country that can should help those fleeing from war.
a "country" doesn't help a migrant. a citizen does. the help should be voluntary. right now, everyone's forced to help a migrant. it's just imposed as a tax on you. and this isn't morally right, at all. it's theft.

>Even if climate change will not have a large effect on our generation, are you okay with people 500 years from now having serious problems because of the selfishness of this generation?
oh, so the estimated time of earth's doom is 2517, now? i think we're fine with fossil fuels for now, then.

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you seem butthurt that I am right

>muh proofs
those points are so retarded, that they are not worth mentioning

If you keep taking in immigrants your country will end up like south africa.
Everyone you know and love will be raped and killed and you will be stripped of your rights simply because of your race.

>Every country that can should help those fleeing from war.
These are parasites, invaders and colonists of Islam. They should be stopped dead at the border and put into camps. giving them money, homes and welfare leads to rat like procreation and proliferation of islamic terror and politics. Its active suicide for the west. Even dumb leftists should be able to see that.

This is a fake reality. Nothing matters. Nothing is real. You must kill yourself to find the true reality. It is a test of courage. Only the strong can experience the true reality, and suicide is the only way.

You don't walk in and ask for a redpill you stupid faggot.
It's something that one day you just get after sorting out all of the information you get exposed to here.

>global warming
Doesn't matter.
Prove global warming without appealing to authority.

>If nationalist like Sup Forums won there would be no Iowa either because everything coming from another country is evil.
That's not how nationalism works dipshit.

I sometimes wonder why the useful idiots of the globalists can't figure out by themselves why importing mass-rape and terrorism is a bad thing.
It should be pretty obvious, shouldn't it?

When were you raped irl? Are you really that afraid of some brown person raping your hairy anus?
And do you really think that refugees are responsible for terrorism?

gay

it should, but unfortunately the woman have to get raped to learn. i dont want any filthy nigger genes in my children's future.

>Mass rapes didn't happen either
They did.
>individual rapes happened but the refugees committing them are few and far in between
Wrong.
You clearly believe whatever the official media feeds you.
You can't think for yourself and you can't form arguments that are your own.
You're another brainwashed tool.
Lurk here for a good long time. You'll eventually learn to think for yourself and question authority. Only then will you be able to understand us. The people who originally used this site figured out how to stop taking ideas from others. Now our ideas are contagious.

>global warming is a hoax
>universal basic income is a hoax
Checkmate faggot.

It must seem crazy to you that somebody would want their town, their country, to be like it was when his grandfather built it, rather than harboring shitty Muslim ghettos all over the place and a nation named after the ethnic fabric of its inhabitants becoming a squabbling shithole of different ethnic makeups voting against one another for power in a nation like America.

You're mistaken Sup Forums isn't about being a conservative it's an echo chamber for racism and generally being a degenerate

>But I guess I will ask differently, how DO you think we can solve global warming instead?
Population control. Pic related.

>Why should people be separated on that basis? What do you gain?
Because of how humans are at a biological level with the loyalty ladder. As for what is gained, how about starting with all that was lost in the last 50 odd years.

>You state that like it's an undisputed fact. Explain why it would lead to a collapse.
Fracture in cycles of civilization. That was pretty clear. If you don't know what a civilizational cycle is or how it can and is affected, that's not really my problem, but research is your friend.

>How so?
Again, cycles of civilization.

>I agree and the solution to is to use less resources.
You can't really use less resources when you constantly push for an increase in immigration, on the basis that it grows the economy, when in reality in only grows in lock-step with GDP only accounting for the increase in consumption.

>Electric cars and solar energies would be a massive step to reduce human resource consumption.
No, they wouldn't. Extracting the resources to create the batteries for your electric car, is as bad as a normal car's pollution over its lifetime. Truth is that our batteries suck and are incredibly toxic for the environment. Same thing with solar power. Until we reach a certain threshold of return of energy, iirc 35%, then it is not beneficial to the environment.

>Conservatives and republicans like Trumps go aggressively against them and try to bring back the oil industry instead.
Oil will always be a part of our industries, too much relies on it. But we should reduce our dependence on it, if not only for the sake of innovation.

>I actually completely agree with that, then why is it always conservatives who tell me to find a wife and have 10 children?
You really can't figure that one out? It's quite simple.

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here OP:
go figure your shit out yourself. stop being agreeable, and going with the flow. stop neurotically letting other people make up your mind for you. stop letting confident retards con you with little more than showmanship and emotional manipulation. pick up a book, challenge your ideas, and convince yourself that what you believe is true. if you dtudy hard, criticise your ideology, and still feel like globalism, liberalism, and state-worship is the right belief, then youll be better for it, and you'll be able to convince the rest of us.

When were you raped irl? Were you raped so often and so badly that now you're actually not afraid of some brown person raping your wife/daughters (assuming you even have a wife, cuck)?
And do you really think that most refugees would stop a terrorist if they see one?

gay

>So I am here to give you the chance to red pill me.

Kek, everything in your replies suggest the opposite. You will never change your mind and we will never change ours so fuck of back to plebbit faggot.

Reminder that Globalism is just a euphemism for imperialism and brainwashed cucks like Op really believe that it will benefit the average person instead of only the imperialists at the top.

He is the same sort of faggot that points to the economic growth of his country as an example of how good globalism is and then he will be protesting the fact that 90% of the wealth is filtering to only 8% of the population.

Stop giving your authority to those who oppress you. It's what you stand for except you go against it.

>Yes they do. The more global our societies become the easier it is to make global laws and actually enforce them.
so you're saying multicultural societies are easier to brainwash
really juggles my wongles

this is my interpretation. the algerian is either a rapist, or has been raped so many times by his precious "refugees" that he's beyond simple ideas like consent. it's tehir culture right?

wanting to protect women from harm is the first step to becoming a nationalist. globalists can't allow their slaves to think that rape, violence, or abortion are bad, because they might actually try to stop it.