why did whites lose the iraq war?
Why did whites lose the iraq war?
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Same reason we, "lost" Vietnam.
It wasn't a real war effort.
We won the war. America is great at winning wars. It's long term occupation we have trouble with.
why do whites say they weren't trying whenever they lose wars?
They didn't lose the war, they lost the peace.
Send soldier into the grinder so the government can keep handing cash to the economy that fuels war.
Why did whites even start the war?
if you won the iraq war, why is ISIS controlling one half of iraq and iran controlling the other half?
>Americans
>White
There was no large mobilization. If it had been all out war it would've gone over much better for us
The war was won. Obama tried to overthrow Assad in Syria at the same time he pulled troops in Iraq. He could have done either one of those things by itself and Iraq would be safe. But both at the same time created a situation where jihadists in Syria could go to a weak Iraq and get resources.
Ultimately the answer to your question is that whites didn't lose the Iraq war.
why do whites believe a conscript force would be more effective than a professional army?
Because Obama and Trump are fucking retarded. Gave Iraq to Iran on a silver platter. Ruined relations with Turkey. Increased the number of refugees. And worst of all, traded all the effort we made to satisfy fucking Saudis of all people.
Tell me you think a force of at least one million white men and top of the line technology couldn't have rocked them.
Like Gulf War. Far more military resources and assets to use
if whites won, why were there still iraqi jihadists armed to the teeth in iraq?
trying to win hearts and minds when the propaganda on both the stationed country and the country at home is vitriolic and anti-american is impossible
also, insurgencies are so fucking hard to defeat with rules of engagement as subhumans who participate in the insurgency don't have to follow these rules.
it wasn't meant to be """won""". if it was an unapologetic total war, Iraq would be colonized by Europeans by now.
Same with Shitganistan
why are you blaming obama for a war that was started by a white?
why was a professional white army armed with top of the line technology unable to "rock" third worlders?
why do whites try to win hearts and minds by torturing people?
You didn't read my post did you retard?
I answered that question.
Obama created a situation in Syria that allowed Jihadists a place to operate and at the same time removed the defenses in Iraq that could have held them in Syria.
One of those choices could have been made at a time, but both choices at once, by Obama caused Iraq to be lost.
Because they were outnumbered and there was no war effort
Its not that hard to figure out. They even called Vietnam a police action back in the day
if whites couldn't even win the iraq war, how would they have colonized iraq?
i could switch up the scope on the inverse and make the same point but i won't because it's stupid and the fact that you either ironically or unironically made that point makes you twofold stupid
why were there still jihadists in iraq if whites military defeated them already?
If it was a TOTAL fucking WAR, where every single person in Iraq was considered an enemy, Allied forced would have slaughtered the entire population with savage impunity.
They weren't. Not until the Jihadists from Syria spilled over the border.
whites weren't outnumbered
en.wikipedia.org
Why aren't you asking me about Trump? Or does him being white automatically imply that he started the war?
why can't you answer the question?
and in a matter of less than a week.
if whites couldn't even defeat a small number of iraqis, why would they defeat the entire iraqi population?
Maybe not Iraq then, but that wasn't a war effort. It was a police action. Some retarded moves were made by US leadership, that's not deniable. By and large, some ass was still whooped.
Ok, now I see you baited us.
10/10
Nobody is that retarded.
Because modern day soldiers are pussies who don't want to fight and die for their country and just want to get their paycheck and their medals for bragging rights.
>y-you want me to get that sniper hiding in the mosque? can't we send a drone for that?
Cucked as fuck desu
you should read your history. it was actually the other way around where jihadists from iraq went to syria
People went from Iraq to fight in Syria. But it was as a force from Syria that they spilled into Iraq as a fighting force.
you should read your history. it was actually the other way around where jihadists from iraq went to syria
As I said, people from Iraq went to fight in Syria. They couldn't fight in Iraq. Because they had been defeated there. But when the US troops left they were able to take land.
They were fighting a disguised insurgency force that blended in with the local population you fucking dumb faggot.
If Allied forces were allowed to drop thousands of bombs on every big civilian center, and have death squads roaming the streets and shooting _EVERY_ fucking Arab they saw, the war would have been a total victory in 3-4 years max. Dumb cunt.
Because after Saddam was dead, we didn't have a goal. There was no way to win beyond that point because there was no particular objective left to achieve, yet we remained anyway.
America seems to have forgotten what war is about. Either you fight for a specific goal (like overthrowing Saddam) and then leave when that goal is accomplished, or you fight for conquest and either subjugate the locals or wipe them out and resettle with your own people. This middle ground that we've grown fond of since WWII, where you invade and then just sit around for no real reason, is completely pointless.
why were there still jihadists in iraq if whites military defeated them already?
Why do you keep saying whites? Nearly half your population is nonwhite
They did win the war in Iraq, the Iraqi army was destroyed in a matter of days but they occupied for 10 years after and then left. If they had left after they had killed Saddam it would have been gg
you should read your history. whites leveled many iraqi cities and killed hundreds of thousands of civilians either directly or via proxy
why was it that they were unable to win the iraq war despite doing this?
Because the whole point was to destabilize the area as part of the greater Israel project.
Because they went back to their homes or to other countries because they lost.
When the US left they crawled out of their hiding holes.
because it was whites who started the war, not blacks, mexicans, or asians
At the time of the attack Iraq had one of the largest, best equipped and feared armies in the world, they were running around annexing statelets
The US bashed their shit in in 1 week
>americans
>whites
good one
Incredible I had to scroll down this far to see this answer. Sup Forums is so fucking cucked now it's incredible. There's scant a difference between this shit and the_donald. Keep drinking the banker kool-aid, faggots.
Because it was never about democracy or WMDs.
why do whites start wars without clear objectives?
>why did whites lose the iraq war?
Yeah because Saddam is the terror of the Persian Gulf and his government stands defiant against the world.
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Depends how you classify losing and winning. Most of Iraq mission objectives were achieved. Short term Iraq war was vistory, long term it's a mixed bag.
>my fellow whites
why do whites blame all their misfortunes on jewish people?
>Why did whites even start the war?
Because Iraq violated the terms of the 90's ceasefire, hundreds of times.
Because Iraq did not cooperate with UN weapons inspectors.
Because Iraq built WMD as defined by the UN with it's illegal extended range SCUD missiles.
Because Iraq tried to assassinate George Bush.
The kkes worked their magic and won this shithole over. Thank shit like "kek" and "meme magic" and Donald "My daughter is having a beautiful Jewish baby" Trump for that.
It was a stupid unwinnable "war" from the way it was handled, it was more an act of misguided global policing than an actual war. The whole Middle East should just be left alone instead of us in the West getting all upset whenever a dictator over there does something bad, then bumping them off and leaving the power vacuum to be filled by someone equally as bad, resulting in no significant change and more people just hating the West.
The Middle East isn't ready for democracy, they still need dictators to knock all the heads of their tribal leaders together to keep them in line instead of letting their retarded petty squabbles escalate into fruitless conflicts. I think the Iraq War could have only been won if the West were intent on taking complete control over it, similar to Japan after WW2, rather than trying to instill some of our virtues over there and hoping they work out despite the people not understanding them.
The "war" wasn't lost because the Iraqi people were great fighters, Muslims are awful at war and get slaughtered en masse if they aren't fighting unarmed civilians, it was lost because there was no winning state that could be achieved by the means it was being fought by the West.
The point of the Iraq War was to destabilize the Middle East with the depopulation of the Middle East as a result, sending "refugees" to ethnically replace Europeans in their own countries, while at the same time crippling America's economy.
None of those things happened
Why do you assume I'm white myself?
because a black was put in charge of them
Saddam was literally /ourguy/, he was probably one of the most based leaders out there but like all based people the US had to take him out because they didn't accept our greatest ally.
Purpose of the Iraq war was to get rid of Saddam for Israel, everything else was just optics. Destabilized countries don't have strong militaries meaning Israel can easily repel them.
>The "war" wasn't lost because the Iraqi people were great fighters
can you please explain pic related?
why were whites militarily defeated in Basra?
The (((US))) took him out because he wanted to unite the Arab nations
This
>mfw I hear someone shit talking Saddam
>defeat Saddams military in 2 weeks
>lost
>None of those things happened
No literally all of those things happened.
why are you putting refugees in quotations when whites literally destroyed iraq?
See Chechnya, Tatarstan, Ingushetia, Alania and Dagnestan.
The Russian empire, Soviet Union and Russian federation have conquered Muslim republics with little to no terror attacks following. It's a simple difference in government policy concerning terror however, historically Russia has responded with sheer force as a response and never bartered.
This has drawn alot of criticism in regards to human rights but to me human rights are circumstantial, it's a shame but in the case of partisan rebellion, civil unrest and terror it seems the necessary response is to exert unequal power and yes the initial violence isn't by any means good but as compared to decades or even centuries of sectarian violence? I'd take the few years of authoritarian rule to subjugate peoples with views that will harm a society for centuries, that to me is the perseverance of life as necessity.
It's occured similarly with communist insurrection in Chile, the Berlin revolution, Taiwan or Korea.
There's historical instances prior to communism or the war on terror as well, shown with the ways of the "total war" method adopted towards the Confederacy, or the suppression of natives during the Spaniards subjugation of SA, or Japan when surrender was refused. Simply put, I believe history proves sometimes it takes a more radical action to set the narrative that you simply won't tolerate abuses in order to prevent further loss of life throughout decades or centuries of hemorrhaging due to infighting.
Winning hearts and minds is what doesn't work, there's never a historical instance of a "friendly" occupation and such an idea is a pipe dream to keep the military industrial complex in constant growth. It's why Jewneva and human rights exist, to stop imperialism and actual conquering of territories and require massive occupational governments that require consistent funding.
Who won the meme war? Was it started by those same freakin whites
why are you leaving afghanistan out of your analysis?
Jews aren't White.
Don't you mean the jews?
Why niggers are so stupid?
Isis is a kike/usa creation.
Because Afghanistan received counter funding for their insurrection, Pakistan funnelled millions of u.s. dollars and weaponry and cia helped train them.
Much more the soviets were experiencing massive economic stagnation because Communism required a constant state of expansion, Afghanistan was their last claw at existing economically and the U.S. funding and weaponry made the resistance formidable.
>US military
>white
War.... You mean the fake Jew larp we had over there...
If it was war we would have given cities 4 days to clear out women and children then killed everyone.
And that's exactly what we should have done.
If we poured 25% of our military into Iraq instead of 15% the Iraq government and Saddam (Which I think should of stayed up) would of fell within 24 hours, Shock and Awe literally destroyed their airbases and radar arrays a seconds fucking time when they got owned in Desert Storm.
Desert Countries are easy as fuck to take over, you can see for miles in an A-10 if they haven't lit up the oil fields like faggots, which just memes that they know they're losing so they're trying to destroy the exports before America can swoop in and take it.
Not gonna fucking lie, Saddam should have gone down in a blaze of glory knowing he would be captured, Now I'm not advocating for the killings of our soldiers. But that fucker should of used nerve gas EVERYWHERE during the first day to stave off the ground invasion.
Just as a big fucking middle finger to the UN for being so cucked of not having a backbone to defend the middle east from obvious oil shilling.
Seriously, if every country in the middle east had nukes, I guarantee you Israel wouldn't do shit with Mossad, and even Iran would be overtly dissuaded of the idea of attacking Israel, Nuclear MAD is effective as fuck, and don't give me that shit about Islam blinding everyone to the point where they're batfuck crazy insane, Humans have innate sense of self preservation, which is why suicide bombers train for years before their able to finally do it.
why do you think chechen rebels weren't being funded by millions of dollars and with weaponry?
are you aware that russia was launching wars on chechnya during a time when it was doing extremely poorly economically?
why would you leave out a very obvious defeat of russian doctrine in afghanistan? do you believe that this hurts your case?
also are you aware that chechens comprise some of the core fighting forces of the islamic state?
US wanted to turn Iraq into the Switzerland of the middle east. You should have just continued to kill people until they fucking went that way. You won against their army, then defeated most of the early insurgency , why did you just stop??
Should have killed more of the towel heads until they fucking did what you wanted.
Fuck Obama
King nigger
Whiter than you'll ever be
Lost, heck, we won it, twice!! And we'll keep winning it too!!!
Because muh human right.
Let the US do this the Israel way, and your Irak will be a 1st power nation in less than 10 years.
Either you conquer the mind of your oponent, either you kick him out of his land.
do whites believe that their extreme militancy on anonymous message boards fuels insecurities in minorities that leads to radicalization and then terrorism?
This.
Actually a blond haired, blued eye man here
Fucking Vietnam democrat policy.
>MUH BUDGET IS FINE BUT MY CULTURAL SUBVERSION.
Look at this tank, its the "Lion of Babylon" The Republican guard couldn't hold bradleys back, it was fucking worse when they encountered an Abrams.
>LES END MUH WAR
>LES TAR AND FEATHER MUH TROOPS
>LES COMPLETELY CONTRADICT MUH OWN POLITICAL IDEOLOGY BY DEFENDING A DICTATORSHIP.
Because solders fight much better when there fighting on defense. They know the terrain and can use gorilla warfare. Why do you think the Soviets won the battle of Stalingrad despite having worse equipment, and less numbers.
Cuz the Kikes that pushed it set the mission perimeters to nation destroying chaos not win.
Like Trump has said infinitum "We should not have gone and going we did not take the oil."
Chechen funding was significantly more difficult logistically and had success in the first Chechen war when Yeltsin caved to western pressure. Putin launched the second war with a stronger economy and more force proving to be more successful.
Afghanistan didn't fall with soviet withdrawals and stood alone several years following the fact.
Also, I don't believe it hurts the argument at the time period that Afghanistan was invaded the economy was already in dire straights under a shitty system like communism wars that didn't have U.S. funding didn't go quite so favorably and the Soviets didn't pertain much to simply carpet bombing them into submission as they had before with other nations because they were struggling for favorable appearance between premiers.
The Saudis are your overlords tho.
Also remember there were always a vary anti-war vocal minority.
Obvious b8 is obvious
The goal was to destabilise the region and it worked same with syria so us won
Isis was also very artificial it justified to grab lands off from sovereign nations just look at us bases in norther syria
everything is going according to plan boyz
Because it's hard to win a war when your media back home cries about legitimate kills let alone ones that risk the lives of dozens of "civilians" to kill the one jihadi hiding among them.