Why is masturbation considered a sin in most major religions?

Why is masturbation considered a sin in most major religions?

If anything, it helps prevent sex before marriage.

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wont a Chasity belt do or something rather than a bit of cloth and Velcro?

Because of that one passage from the old testament/Torah where that dude bust a nut on the ground instead of his wife because he didn't want her son to be the heir to the family fortune instead of him.

Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

only mudshits and nut jobs practice religion in 21st century

So you don't count those with faith then? How does one practise faith in jesus would you say? Forgive and be forgiven is as good as covenant with god as there ever will be.

whatever. jesus is dead for over 2000 years and he surely ain't coming back. but you can have faith and patiently wait.
meanwhile, priests will get richer and happier while they cum inside young boys anuses.
it an industry. 2000 years old industry that works.

That seems like a trainer for orgasm denial and bdsm fetishism

Really you can't feel him right now? How can you say he is dead when he is so obviously alive? It's who we are mate.

masturbation leads to blindness and hairy palms and also never finding a real women, hence look at whats happening in japan, every male there has a phd in fapping

self-abusers BTFO

Their arms are strapped to the cross

its an old SA joke. the actual product is for autistic kids who get anxious when their restless limbs aren't restrained.

Masturbation is a gateway activity to worse things in the eyes of the church. Also, if you're too weak to not masturbate, then you don't deserve the Kingdom of Heaven.

Unless of course you have full faith and belief in Jesus Christ, then you will be spared the second death in the lake of fire.

We are all just humans, inherently flawed to our cores and in a world of decadence. Don't be so hard on yourselves (pun intended)

masturbation also leads to porn ED, meaning u can never get it up for a real girl that would actually fuck u. I feel sorry for those who fap to furries, cp, hentai and other fucked up shit. It's nothing but a rabbit hole to hell. The less u fap the more confidence u get and better able to deal with real girls

What if I mercilessly slaughter 500 children, but also have full faith and belief in Jesus Christ
Will I go to heaven?

>it helps prevent sex before marriage
According to Christ that doesn't matter. Just wanting to fuck a woman is as bad as doing it. That's kind of Christ's thing, "human emotions and existence in general are evil, worship me or you'll be punished for being alive".
That's some nice word salad.
>when he is so obviously alive
That's not true.

Ah the old "why should I believe in something sandmen wrote on papyrus thousands of years ago". Seriously, do atheists like you ever discuss the intricacies of beliefs rather than find buzzwords like a reductionist would?

Ah the old unironically believing in something sandmen wrote on papyrus thousands of years ago

Yeah, it doesn't matter what you do, just ask jesus to forgive you before you buy the farm.
>discuss the intricacies of beliefs
You can make up a load and make it really complex but that doesn't make it any less of made up bullshit.

Not true to you perhaps. I will pray that he visits you soon.

Really makes you think, almost like there is something wrong with the act itself... hmmm????
(It's psychologically damaging)

AKKKSHUALLY Jesus got stopped at the airport. Thanks Travel Ban.

There are different types of arguments, some weaker than others. Finding a belief within a religion and deconstructing it is pretty high up on this ladder, attacking the source is degenerate. See genetic on the pic

>He says, using a centuries old technology: the chair, typing and thinking with his hands and brain, a technology millions of years old, speaking in a language hundreds of years old, with its roots in even older languages, having a public discussion, which humans have been doing for at least tens of thousands of years.

Seriously, do atheists do anything but rub themselves off to their own narrow conceits and inhale the fumes from their own asshole?

Atheists worship themselves. It's absolute arrogance.

We don't need to worship anything when nothing is sacred.

You worship your own "intelligence" and it's repugnant, you self-deify literally, you have absolute faith and moral authority in yourself.

It's not.

It's considered a sin for stricter Jews, because rabbis said so. There really isn't a basis in the Torah for it. And even then, the Talmudic proscription is only against *male* masturbation. Mature females are actually encouraged to masturbate.

Christianity is similar. The Onan story in Genesis involves a guy being struck dead for spilling his seed on the ground. But actually this has nothing to do with masturbation, it's because his father, Judah, told the guy to impregnate the wife of Onan's deceased brother, and instead he pulled out, so God smote his ass dead. The reasonable interpretation here is don't be a douche and fuck up your sacred family blood lines, not to avoid spanking the monkey.

Islam also, kind of the same deal. There is a Quranic proscription against those who fail to guard their chastity against anyone except their wives and those you hold in your right hand (i.e. slaves, but a remarkable word choice in a book known for poetic allusions). Whether this would extend to protecting your genitals against yourself seems... questionable. Islamic scholars don't see it that way, however.

Basically, it's all just down to interpretation. There is no *clear* proscription against masturbation in the holy scripture of any Judeo-Christian tradition.

>I so wanted this to be true lol

>Why is masturbation considered a sin in most major religions?

Is it? I'm a Southern Baptist Christian and nobody said anything bad about masturbation.

>There really isn't a basis in the Torah for it
Jews don't literally believe anything in the Torah, they are followers of the secular Talmud and that is all.
>there is no clear proscription against masterbation
Lust is a sin user, it's clearly called such as here If you clearly have Lust in your heart, you are sinning.

Except for yourself. The most common school of thought for atheists is egoism.

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>muh sin of oden
>muh need to regulate sexuality in bronze age societies to increase social cohesion at expense of homos
>muh bible

Yeah but that's not talking about masturbation, and follows a more general lesson of Jesus: if you crave a sin, you've kind of already committed it, within yourself.

It's certainly not specifically condemnatory of masturbation, especially given that it's possible to masturbate without thinking lustfully of anyone, although granted, not the usual way of things.

>That's kind of Christ's thing, "human emotions and existence in general are evil, worship me or you'll be punished for being alive".

Your fedora is crooked.

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>Jews don't literally believe anything in the Torah, they are followers of the secular Talmud and that is all.

Uhhh, no. That's incredibly wrong. Judaism highly respects Torah scholars, and the body of tradition formed by their interpretations which are generally believed to be guided by divinity. But to any Jew, the Torah is just on another level of sacredness, far above scholarly works like the Talmud and Mishna. Torah comes directly from God, and is His most direct communication with and representation to His people.

>Lust is a sin user

You can masturbate without lusting after another person. And you can lust without masturbating. So this doesn't seem particularly relevant.

Because they knew that if they prohibited the act, men would get more rapey, resulting in more followers.

>You worship your own "intelligence" and it's repugnant

For one, fuck your feelings. And no I don't worship my intelligence, since it relies on me being perfect and that's not the case.

>you self-deify literally

Never. I am no God, I am not above anyone else. I'm humbled by my own existence being so insignificant in the whole of the ever-expanding Universe.

>you have absolute moral authority in yourself

No. My morals are derived from my education, which happen to be derived from Christian culture. This doesn't imply that I should be believing there's a God.

Take note: I'm not shitting on religions. I'm allowed to believe we are a species that evolved to where we are now by our own power. Call chance discoveries and breakthroughs helping hands from God, I call them probabilities, i.e. all the laws of physics acting in concert in an non-graspable way.

I'm not even calling our understanding of the law of physics absolute, since today it can't even explain it all. Does it bother me? No, because the result exist and one day or another they'll be explained.

But the fact remains: I'm no God. I'm just Human. A social animal.

>Judaism highly respects Torah scholars
There is not a single story they believe in the literal sense. Adam, Abraham, Tower of Babel, Noah, none of it, not even Moses parting the Red Sea... they disbelieve the Torah as being literal... therefore have no basis on claiming their God entirely. They are believers in the secular Talmud - a book to wage war on the Goyim.
>You can masturbate without lusting after another person. And you can lust without masturbating. So this doesn't seem particularly relevant.
You really are a jew huh, stop being so obvious and ungodly and you might trick a person or two.

>There is not a single story they believe in the literal sense.

That depends on which branch of Judaism you're talking about. Reform, OK yeah no. Lubavitchers and other more conservative branches? Oh yeah they do.

>They are believers in the secular Talmud - a book to wage war on the Goyim.

Uhm, have you ever actually read the Talmud? It's a collection of scholarship and legal decisions all principally based on... you guessed it, interpretations of the meaning of the Torah. Without primacy of Torah, the Talmud would be a building with no foundation.

Besides that, you're posing a false dichotomy: either "everything in the Torah/Bible is literally true", or "it's all without value". That's ridiculous. Catholics and many protestant branches accept evolution. That doesn't mean they don't believe in the Bible and take it seriously, it just means that they believe understanding scriptural revelation isn't as simple as reading a furniture assembly manual.

>You really are a jew huh, stop being so obvious and ungodly and you might trick a person or two.

Not an argument.

>That depends on which branch of Judaism you're talking about
You admit it! You also don't believe in Heaven or Hell. You are a sick twisted version of an atheist cult that worships "AT BEST" moloch... but we all know you're just atheists who worship the Talmud - a book of war against white westerns.

Jews are not your friend unless you are an atheist and fight along side them.

>You admit it! You also don't believe in Heaven or Hell. You are a sick twisted version of an atheist cult that worships "AT BEST" moloch... but we all know you're just atheists who worship the Talmud - a book of war against white westerns.

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, but then again, I don't think you do either.

There are a lot of scriptual interpretations of the afterlife in the Judeo-Christian tradition, and frankly, the whole "Dante's Inferno" conception of this place of eternal torment for evil people, is mostly a pagan belief with origins in Greek (Tartarus) and Norse (Hel) mythos. It ain't exactly scriptural.

>Jews are not your friend unless you are an atheist and fight along side them.

Jews hold in high regard those non-Jews who follow Noahide law, which would preclude atheism. You seem terribly confused.

>he says, foolishly listing aspects of humanity that have readily evolved, changed, and thusly improved over the centuries by recognition of their own faults, whilst failing to understand the difference between this and a static belief system, and being a painfully hypocritical and dishonest cunt for claiming all atheists do is huff their own shit.

>There are a lot of scriptual interpretations of the afterlife in the Judeo-Christian
Get this straight ok, there is Christian tradition and then there is the Judeo-Atheist tradition. I cannot think of a single thing Jews and Christians have in common, certainly nothing spiritual, the Torah (OT genesis-dueteronomy) is entirely disbelieved by you, your entire concept of heaven and hell is foreign and you disavow all of your biblical figures even Moses. We have nothing in common, not one thing.
>which would preclude atheism
you don't believe in heaven hell, Christ, Moses, and worship nothing... you are Atheist.

Ok ya but what about 2D girls?

So they can control their followers through guilt over an otherwise harmless and pleasurable activity

once they respect the religion they want to continue doing so, and controlling sexual urges, i.e., primal instinct, can make them want to find alternative ways to 'please' it and therefore be more devoted

TFW I'm actually talking to Satan. Fuck you, I'm out!

cya kike

Because the deferral of gratification is the foundation of true maturity.

By refusing to pleasure oneself, one strengthens their willpower and becomes more capable of effective and virtuous decision making. The same can be said of not caving in to anxiety.