Have you seen the latest Molyneux talking with the scientist about eugenics, IVF, gene editing and IQ?

Have you seen the latest Molyneux talking with the scientist about eugenics, IVF, gene editing and IQ?

It almost gives me hope. I mean with this technology, we could genetically edit people to make them smarter.
Imagine if shitskins had an IQ of 100 instead of 80~? They would be as smart as (today's) whites and probably way less violent that they currently are.

According to the scientist, we are a few decades away from common gene editing in embryo, more or less eradicating costly genetic diseases, and also potentially increasing the medium IQ for the country practicing it by a big number.

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youtube.com/watch?v=dn4LaowsGiA
pewinternet.org/2016/07/26/u-s-public-opinion-on-the-future-use-of-gene-editing/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient
youtube.com/watch?v=FMOCOaD0jOU
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Also, reminder that even if nobody think IQ is the only factor for violence and crime, there is a correlation between IQ and crime.

It may not be the final solution, but it would be way, way better.

Also, reminder that modern, democratic and free civilization can only thrive if the medium IQ of the country is above 90.

Give me a country with an IQ below 90 and with a successful democratic society.
That's right, none.

Why wait for that when technology is around the corner where you can upload entire dictionary and information directly in your brain like in the matrix.

BAD ! transhumanism is BAD bro

>Why wait for that when technology is around the corner where you can upload entire dictionary and information directly in your brain like in the matrix.
I do not know about that.
Also, knowing the entire encyclopedia won't prevent stupid low IQ shitskins from doing their thing, no?

I am curious tho, do you have a link or something?

>BAD ! transhumanism is BAD bro
Not an argument.
Can you develop?

And who is going to invent this technology? Governments don't want intelligent people, intelligent people are free thinkers and hard to manipulate.

Google "Us military brain chips" has few results

That was such a great podcast, highly recommend listening to all of it

>And who is going to invent this technology?
It's already underway.

>Governments don't want intelligent people
Governments and corporations want gene editing for medical reasons.
Cure diseases, prevent genetic diseases.
And if you can identify those genes, you can do the same for those causing intelligence.

If a high IQ population increases GDP and one country decides to do this it would be stupid to not follow suit

>That was such a great podcast, highly recommend listening to all of it
I agree. Stefan has done some "meh" stuff lately, rambling about things we heard 10 times already, but this podcast was really great and interesting.

But I advise you to listen to the 90 minutes podcast
youtube.com/watch?v=dn4LaowsGiA

It's really thorough and you realize (according to the guy) how close we are from doing it.

And everybody will do it, because if you are one country refusing to do it, you will have a _HUGE_ disadvantage compared to the countries doing it.
Also, rich people would go there to do it anyway.

That's Stephen Hsu, he has a great blog too:

infoproc.blogspot.com

>If a high IQ population increases GDP
It increases GDP, lower crime, lower self-inflicted diseases (smoking, drugs, etc).

Even if our socialist governments were paying everyone to do those IVF tests, it would be way less expensive than pay for the prison system and the genetic disease medical fees.

No son. You will only get dumber fact!!! Nothing like this will ever get through to the average person. If they do make it it's only for the people who will make you dumber so yea rip the human race lol.

>You will only get dumber fact
According to what?
>Nothing like this will ever get through to the average person.
What makes you say that? Now the average person has medicine, surgery, car, electronics, etc. The average person has everything. Wasn't the case 50 years ago.
Also, it has been calculated that a government paid IVF embryo analysis would be better for them in the long run, even financially speaking.

>If they do make it it's only for the people who will make you dumber
What. What are you even talking about.

Are you one of those stupid Americans with an IQ of 90~?

>BAD ! transhumanism is BAD bro
Let's get everyone's IQ to at least 105 first, and then go from there.

>And everybody will do it, because if you are one country refusing to do it, you will have a _HUGE_ disadvantage compared to the countries doing it.
Im not so sure every country will allow people to increase IQ, height and so on, maybe it will be allowed for medical reasons.


pewinternet.org/2016/07/26/u-s-public-opinion-on-the-future-use-of-gene-editing/

The views are similar in other Western countries.

Making people smarter isn't fun.

Stefan isn't the smartest telerobot in the world.

This is line is key:

>A 2014 Pew Research Center survey asked people’s views about genetically modifying babies under two circumstances: in order to reduce a baby’s risk of serious diseases and conditions or to improve a baby’s intelligence. U.S. adults were closely split over whether it was “an appropriate use of medical advances” (46%) or “taking medical advances too far” (50%) to modify a baby’s genetic characteristics in order to reduce their risk of serious diseases. But, an overwhelming majority of adults (83%) said that modifying genetic characteristics to make a baby more intelligent was “taking medical advances too far.”

here's is my reply. The fact that no im not stupid or in this case a stupid "american" yes technology has improved ,but it has improved so it can benefit financially. Making everyone smarter will not happen untill more people are dead other wise it will not benefit the economy. money is all here

>The views are similar in other Western countries.
Agreed, but think about it.

Let's say that we have the technology to do it.
But it's illegal in the west.

East-Asians country will do it.
And in 20 years, Singapore, Philippines, China, Korea, Japan, HK will rule the world with their breed 130 IQ.

The country that does it WILL win everything.

Progressives will never let this happen. They need low IQ populations to operate.

>Making people smarter isn't fun.
Not an argument.
The technology is coming, do you have an argument against it?

Why stop at 100?

Or we could just genetically ignore African genes all together? That seems like the best solution.

>Progressives will never let this happen. They need low IQ populations to operate.
True. In today's political climate it wouldn't go through.

But if we don't do it, other people will, and they will dominate us.
(Also, how can you prevent someone from the US to go to Thailand for a week, give your eggs, have they analyzed and put the best egg back inside? People will do it anyway. But only rich ones.)

I do agree with you on that. We will not be able put up a fight if that scenario becomes true.

Doing things that are harmful to our societies hasn't stopped us yet though.

Also, like Stefan said, once people will have seen a generation (currently growing) of people without genetic diseases, without down syndrome (like in Iceland), they will stop attacking those principle.
Because attacking those principle of preventing diseases and bad genes also means insulting the people who had those selections, and invalidating their existence.

It's a matter of time before it's accepted.

yeah because what they lack ia intelligence and not morals right
>200 iq nigger robs a bank with ease

>there is a correlation between IQ and crime

Yeah. Many intelligent people become criminals.

You guys shouldnt worry about getting higher iq's or in other terms higher intelligence in humans you should worry about a war that will occur to wipe out all of you to actually start doing the advanced gene editing

>Yeah. Many intelligent people become criminals.
A lot, lot, lot less than dumb people becoming criminals.

There is a sweet spot of crime in IQ, around 80/85.

Smart enough to function, dumb enough to resort to violence and not think things through.

War between whom and whom?

I do think that genetic engineering for medical reasons will be accepted in the West in the near future. But increasing IQ is much more important, and allowing that will drag on for maybe decades imho.

All of you stop saying iq do you even know wtf iq is ?

The real thing here is Intake, storage, and output of information in the human brain thats what intelligence is iq is what you know which seems one-sided

>I do think that genetic engineering for medical reasons will be accepted in the West in the near future. But increasing IQ is much more important, and allowing that will drag on for maybe decades imho
I agree with you.
But I also see this as hope. We all know the world IQ is plummeting since we feed shitskins in Africa and India now.

But with this technology, we could raise it again and prevent a literal idiocracy.

>All of you stop saying iq do you even know wtf iq is ?
Yes.
Do you? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient

Also, watch the podcast.

>Many intelligent people become criminals
The low IQ criminals outnumber the smart ones.
(inb4 "hurr, smart ones don't get caught")

In the near-future when you can have designer babies (presuming it's legal) and people give their kids max stats on intelligence and memory and health and stuff but also make them as attractive as possible I imagine (based on how big an industry eye widening surgery is in korea, skin bleaching is in India and Africa, muh weaves are in the US black community and more practical cultural concerns) a lot of non-white parents would just straight up have their kids genetically engineered to be white so they can be considered attractive by the widest amount of people and hopefully have an easier life assuming cyborg Hillary isn't in charge and putting whites into death camps.

But the question is, for future Sup Forums to shitpost about: if black parents genetically engineer their designer baby to be white, are they really a white person?

>if black parents genetically engineer their designer baby to be white, are they really a white person?
Well, if they are genetically white, why wouldn't they.

They're not like trannies putting a dress on and pretending they're a girl. They are literally like a white.

Dumb criminals rob stores with a gun, the smart ones do other stuff.

Low IQ criminals are committing "violent" crimes.
Higher IQ criminals are statistically committing "money" crimes.

That's why more whites are committing tax fraud and blacks are committing assaults and theft.
See my point? One is intrinsically bad and hurting people, the other one... arguably not so much.

I just know my cuck country will ban it.
>waah waah it's insulting to dumb people not to let them be born

You'll simply take a week vacation to a neighbor country to do it.
And since you need a bit of money to do this and go to a private clinic, only wealthy (whites) will be able to do it.

It's ethnic cleansing, not so bad.

the whites are evil they are doing all the money schemes. Oy Vey Good Goy you get 1 schmekl

>genetic engineering goes mainstream
>2-4 corporations handle everything to do with it
>jews at the helm as usual
Besides the obvious, people having generally higher IQ isn't going to magically fix everything. I wouldn't be surprised if it's only going to make them soulless information-regurgitaters like colleges do now.

>jews at the helm as usual
More like Chinese. East-Asians are actually positive regarding gene-engineering for higher IQ.

>people having generally higher IQ isn't going to magically fix everything
It can only makes things better.

The idea is repulsive to me because I associate it with desperate ideological egalitarianism. The multiracialists are probably willing to modify their genes just to integrate Niggers into civilised societies. It can also serve to disarm the anti-immigrationist arguments against the mass import of low IQ populations. If this technology will be used to perpetuate White genocide, it will work against us.

>It can also serve to disarm the anti-immigrationist arguments against the mass import of low IQ populations. If this technology will be used to perpetuate White genocide, it will work against us.
I hadn't thought of that. It might happen, but then again the leftists would have to accept that there significant genetic differences between population, etc, before that.

>The idea is repulsive to me because I associate it with desperate ideological egalitarianism
But this could end up in true egalitarianism. Or at least getting closer.
People would know we are not born equal, there is genetic differences, and we have to live with it.
Unlike the false truth you head today that we are "equal".

>The multiracialists are probably willing to modify their genes just to integrate Niggers into civilised societies.
Actually, if niggers don't "behave liker niggers" anymore, I wouldn't mind.
If they're not stupid nor violent, why should I care that much.

You might disagree with me, but for me "white" is not about the skin color, it's more about the culture, values, and intelligence.
If we can make foreigners _truly_ integrating by giving them the same IQ< they will come to see the attractiveness of our society, and not looking to rape a goat.

Maybe.
I'm only speculating.
There is still a lot we do not know.

But ready or not, the technology is coming. We have to think about it.

Yes, I do not believe lefties will love it, because it's basically
>let's import those stupid people, and do eugenics on them, change them, because they're so fucking stupid right now
They won't allow it.

It would be seen as... I don't know, "culture destruction"? "White science colonizing"?
Eugenics.

Multiracialism and the abolition of ethnic identity are their ideals and final goals, their stated belief in human equality is just a convenient lie to advance this ultimate cause. They will abandon it in a heart beat once there is a technological method to genuinely equalise different populations in terms of IQ and mentality.

> You might disagree with me, but for me "white" is not about the skin color, it's more about the culture, values, and intelligence.

That's exactly why I hate this idea: there are too many people like you. I do first and foremost care for securing our ethno-cultural continuity and a White world for my children and grandchildren, not a globalist dystopia where no one has an identity besides consumerism and brand loyalty. Even if Whites were the ones with the 85 IQ, I don't really care that much. We must secure the existence of our people because no one can be us except ourselves.

This is how Brave New World works.

And it doesn't matter that they have the ability to make everyone smart and healthy. They still stunt people with alcohol to make them subservient retards. This does nothing but get closer to creating generations of everyone's the same and the elite giving birth to those they'll choose to dictate everyone.

Literally the only 100+ IQ post ITT.

This Frenchnon looks like the archetypal cocksucker. He's sucking globalist dick. I'm not against gay people, okay, I love them they're great folks. There's something about this fairy hopping around, bossing everybody around, trying to intimidate people like me and you. I wanna tell Frenchanon: Hey listen asshole! Quit saying Belarusanon and I - and I never use cussing in 22 years - but the gloves are off. Listen you son of a bitch. What the fuck's your problem? You wanna sit here and say that I'm a goddamn fucking Russian? You get in my face with that I'll beat your goddamn ass you son of a bitch. You piece of shit. You fucking goddamn fucker. Listen fuckhead, you've fucking crossed the line. Get that through your goddamn fucking head. Stop pushing your shit. You're the people who've fucked this country over and gangraped the shit out of it and lost an election, so stop shooting your mouth off claiming that I'm the enemy. You got that you goddamn son of a bitch. Fill your hand, I'm sorry but I'm done. You start calling me a foreign agent, those are fucking fighting words, excuse me.

We are getting dumber every generation because

This will never be legal. We all in our heart know it's wrong to play God.

Giving corporations and government the ability to control birth traits and intelligence is not the way to go. You already see what they're doing when they control other things. You've seen them go mad as the population breaks away from listening to the media and not 'following orders.'

Genetic modification would be owned and operated by big corporations and the government and would hail in 'happy, stupid servents.' It would effectively create Brave New World. We need to do something to get higher IQ people, but genetically altering fetuses is not the way.

> Something needs to be done
Nuke Africa and India.

Funny thing i dont care about school and im one of the f grade dumb kids. Even thought i actually have an insane brain in a good way, becuase of disorders and deformation that i have .Im very lucky to have such a brain ,but to see the human race really icks me to a point where ive tried to make myself lose brain cells so yea lol. You want to see intelligent well you see if becuase humans are disgusting.

Might I say that quoting the title of a book is not an argument?
It's like all those people yelling "MUH 1984" because they have no vocabulary and do not know anything about an authoritarian and controlling society.

That being said, your point might be fair, but the technology is coming, whether we like it or not.
We have to think about it, what should be done, what is good, etc.

It's coming mate.

Ad hominem and apparently no argument, tl;dr.

If you want to make a real point, I'm listening tho.

>This will never be legal.
It will be in eastern Asia.

>We all in our heart know it's wrong to play God.
You cannot put an argument of authority with God while knowing almost nobody is religious anymore.

This technology wont come. alot of you are in denial about the human race degrading itself into something it wasnt supposed to be. It will come once most of us are dead

>Genetic modification would be owned and operated by big corporations and the government and would hail in 'happy, stupid servents.' It would effectively create Brave New World. We need to do something to get higher IQ people, but genetically altering fetuses is not the way.
The technology is coming, and a lot of people will get access to it one way or another.
What do you propose?

Having both would be better. But if people were born with IQ potential over 200, like 400 or 500 even we can't predict the kind of shit they would come up with. Screw having a library in your head, the shit that is yet to be written is more important.

This plus AI happening at roughly the same time is nuts. I think the current political situation, desperate as it is, isn't the end of the west. Not if we can survive long enough for this tech to come online.

This genetic editing can give you as much as humanly capable possible this wont make such a impact even if it did come this wont do much at all.

Eugenics is just another word that has been twisted and distorted

People simply have to remember what the two greek words mean.
It literally means "good genes".

You didn't watch the video, did you? Your genetic abilities are complex but if they can alter the average outcomes (physical traits are Gaussian and therefore anchored to the mean) to be entirely positive you have no idea what the magnitude would be.

Don't mind him, he shitposted and said stuff without making any sense since the beginning of this thread.

I think he is either high or literally too stupid for this conversation.
Also he basically admitted to be a shitskin, it should indicate you something about his IQ.

Remeber that us humans have a barrier to the physical and mental. Of course this can greatly improve the average human in many ways ,but not in a terrifying way.

I say the book title rather than giving a full synopsis because I assume you're smart enough to have read it in high school. It's not a difficult or rare book, but if you want a synopsis because you're fucking dumb, that's fine by me.

It's happening in every country in the world. We are all getting dumber.

the fact your trying to insult me saddens me lol. like is that necessary?

The technology is already here.

humans are getting dumber and thats a purpose. Its not because of race...

What will happen is that everyone will have 70iq istead.

People should go there. He posted a free E-book on AI. His blog seems to be way too unpopular for the level of quality. Then again just looking at it, it's a pretty high IQ blog so it probably has a high barrier of entry.

If black dysfunction were solely caused by low IQ why to packs of downies not flash mob stores?

youtube.com/watch?v=FMOCOaD0jOU

I hope to see the survival of the white race, mate. Fuck niggers.

Poor shitskin. He should be happy. Someone can flip skitskin alleles making them less unintelligent in the future.

The propensity for crime is also influenced by genes. If I remember correctly a few genes associated with aggression have been found so far.

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nigger cracker spic or gook or spook or kike or whatever the fuck you are this world will depopulate eventuall.

Because down syndrome have nothing to do with basic IQ.
It's another genetic disease altogether.

Anyone find it weird how quickly it has come to this?
The Industrial Revolution was brought about with technology that existed in the days of the Roman Empire.
Internal combustion engines and electric motors coming into popularity in the last couple hundred year help pushing us even further.
Now we are getting to the point where we can edit ourselves, but it seems like we got here very quickly

I hate to sound like a fucking episode of Ancient Aliens but could it be that this isnt the first time we've had this capability? Could jews asians or even whites have gotten to this level in the past and could they still be carrying their modified genes?

oh yes im mispelling alot because i havent slept in 2 days

But intelligent niggers would figure out more effective ways to rob and kill

Where are the plastics? I don't think humanity ever got this far. As for aliens, I believe it's possible because of my personal experience with UFOs. But I don't think humanity ever had an advanced society before.

>nogs and mudshits that live in huts having their embryos genetically edited just like rich white westerners that live in civilization


this will just further increase the distance between the troglodytes of the middle east and africa and the west and cause more war

im guessing you guys have never heard of coons. Lets see if one of them commits a crime no. Its not about race lol.

>this will just further increase the distance between the troglodytes of the middle east and africa and the west
Sure, but why would it cause more war?

Like becoming a banker and investor

My dude, progressives import violent stupid migrants that dosent work and contribute to society for short term political benefits. You seriously think they will suddenly want to compete by having smart gene-engeniried population?