Why can't tradcons accept this?

I don’t care how much of an alpha male you are, or how tight your game is, but if you are the only positive influence in your girlfriend or wife’s life, and everything else around her is pushing her to feed her primal need of pleasure, fun, and higher status men, you will get burned. You will not provide an “oasis” of tradition and monogamy if everything else is programming her for feminism and promiscuity. You may be able to keep it together for a few months, a few years, and maybe even a decade, but eventually it will collapse.

I’ve learned that having game is only half of the component to maintaining a healthy relationship. The other half is having her in an environment that tells hers to “cherish your man, be faithful, have children.” Otherwise you will lose. We’re all products of our environment, whether we want to admit it or not, but this impacts women even more because they operate on the consensus of others.

If everyone started jumping off a bridge tomorrow, she would too, because it’s the social proof which convinces her that it’s an activity she would feel good doing. On the other hand, men operate on hierarchy, and we only follow the top dog. If everyone is jumping off the bridge, but our leader doesn’t, we do not jump off the bridge. A man will not follow a crowd of weak men because they are numerous, unlike a woman, who thinks that participating with the majority will make her feel good by lowering her chance of being rejected or ostracized from a group.

For one of my relationships, I tried to create a serene bubble of patriarchy and goodness, and it worked for a while, but eventually I lost out to Facebook, her promiscuous friends, her enabling relatives, and to the degenerate majority. By dating one girl, you date the world around her, and if that world is sick, a negative outcome is inevitable.

>inb4 "just find the right girl, nigga"

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This is true. Natasje is right.


The thing is gay pedowood doesn't want you in a relationship because then you don't buy anything.

The best thing to do is to disengage with Babylon aka the faggot producers in media and go back to real virtue that made our grandparents the greatest generation

OP delivered, nothing to add.
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you said it perfectly

>not looking at her friends and family before dating her

Why in the fuck would you date someone whose entire support base is pure shit.

because society is shit

is this a MGTOW thread?

because he's a chad

It's not, you are just hanging out with shit people. You shouldn't force yourself to be with retarded people, even if they are family or even your own parents.

Your implying that we have any other options. Maybe if you were in southern america and your girls family were really traditional christians but even then, being in the south means there might be niggerblood in her.

>It's not, you are just hanging out with shit people

This kind of thinking is exactly why you'll get burned sooner or later. Unless you are a female, of course, which is likely given your thought pattern.

like honestly, "an oasis of "

i bet you he never went on a trip with her, went vacationing, etc.

he just wanted a warm, obedient fuckdoll

if that's the vibe you're sending, what do you think you're going to get

>Having game is only half of maintaining a relationship

There's your problem, sonny boy. "Having game" has literally nothing to do with it.

Stop dating sluts...

You control who she works with? What's on TV? Movies? Her kikebook?

It sucks but it can work. The one thing a man always has to influence a woman is his ability to fuck her brain back to reality that she is your sub.

Not an argument, cuck. Go be MGTOW and die off then, I don't care.

That's why you need marry and live in a Church community. Join the body of Christ, and let them provide your social norms to live by.
>The church is catholic, universal, so are all her actions; all that she does, belongs to all.

Why would I be with a woman who can be controlled? Why would you select a low IQ female who is susceptible to propaganda and stupid opinions?

What's your view of what's more fulfilling? A proper relationship with people doing the roles they're supposed to or the hedonist bang a new chick everynight. I let go of my relationship and the latter actually seems more guilt-ridden and unfulfilling. So much hassle for so little.

>I lost out to Facebook, her promiscuous friends, her enabling relatives
why did you even allow that trash in the first place, that's pure cancer

>not going full varg
shiggy

>You control who she works with? What's on TV? Movies? Her kikebook?
if she needs any of that shit then you fail as a man

You didn't notice here kikebook disease when you were dating? Sort of an indicator user.

real black pill shit

the problem is not women but Jews. get rid of jews, get rid of feminism and the whole thing comes toppling down.

>Why would I be with a woman who can be controlled?
oh boy you have much to learn
they all can
they all need to
they all crave it, secretly or admittedly
a woman out of control is pandora's box and the end of civilization
and they know it

You're using dumb people as disposable fleshlights, you should feel bad. These types of women inevitably end up as single mothers, stop rewarding this kind of behavior.

keep telling yourself this you little cuck
my gf knows if she cheats on me i beat her to death

user speaks the truth. Try a road trip or weekend get away. Those bad habits will come out.

Everyone is susceptible to propaganda and stupid opinions. Just look at this board.

>I’ve learned that having game is only half of the component to maintaining a healthy relationship. The other half is having her in an environment that tells hers to “cherish your man, be faithful, have children.”

I agree.
I've been married for 2 years now and she's the only one that passed my 'extended family test'. There are about 200 of us within driving distance of 50 km or less and about once a year in summer and for Christmas a few of us get together. Those are events filled with happy families, children and the elderly and she managed to fit in the very first time. That aside, literally every family in our street is man, woman, 1-2 children.

I think it's a bigger problem for people without families close by, because they don't have the social environment that fosters a traditional marriage.

You're mostly right, but you can edge them out if you are able to provide everything they have and more.

The beauty of this world is that most of the good shit out there is shared public resource. You can go places and do things and it's dirt cheap or free most of the time. If you get off your ass and take her places and let HER be the one that shows off her life on social media, then she won't be as easily swayed.

We only get two weeks vacation in the states and a handful of Holidays. We travel or do something on each and every one of those days. Never let a holiday go to waste.

From there, all it takes is for you to do one thing that's special. What we do is make a big deal about our anniversary.

We take a minimum of three days on vacation somewhere just the two of us. One time we spent a full week and a half in Florida doing the Disney/Universal Parks, the space center, and ending with a cruise to the Bahamas.

If your relationship isn't special enough to do this, I agree don't bother. Most folks forget anniversaries or do dinner. Do it bigger than anyone else is, and you will be top dog forever.

I'm in a happy relationship, have been for years. If you want to chase the dumbest, worst women based on their physical attractiveness, that's your choice.

It's easier to blame everyone else for your choices I guess.

>tfw no gf

Well, she knew what she was getting into, dating a muslim. No judgements here if you do.

Projecting. Governments fear Sup Forums.

Cap this. IT's 100% true. I wish there was a way to stop this.

>On the other hand, men operate on hierarchy, and we only follow the top dog.
Not this. I tend to eschew authority in general.

>met girl on tinder
>ok I'll hit it and quit it
>go out a couple of times
>fall for each other
>been together three years, I've never felt more loved by anyone. Literally, she bends over backwards to cater to my every whim.


Still not happy, since she was on tinder, and the world around her is not as conservative as mine.

Thinking about ending it, but fuck. I love her, and I'm sure she loves me.

I'd say this is true. Met someone who was just off seeing someone like me and I think she's got some trust issues now. I'm always honest and upfront though, doesn't make any difference apparently...

I did the exact same thing, only it was on craigslist in 2006.

Roll with it. She is clearly a giving person who is capable enough handle her own needs and help others with theirs.

That alone means she's competent, which is a scarce quality in women.

The rest is on you. If she's competent, you need to be too. Have your shit together, and you will advance through life and have better shit than her social circle.

She will eventually realize just how dumb those old ideologies were.

t. Önder

>You will not provide an “oasis” of tradition and monogamy if everything else is programming her for feminism and promiscuity.

The woman needs to understand that the man holds the potential for extreme violence. Not necessarily towards her, but against anything that challenges his position or status as the alpha. Regardless of what the fems say, they are drawn to this. They can't fucking help themselves. Don't be a cuck.

>TFW got perfect gf but lost passion about it.
Fuck this shit brain. It's like living with a female best friend.

i think im gonna pull the trigger and end it

So you figured that environment matters? Maybe it's time for Socialism again where morals are taught in school and betrayal is punished with outcast from society. But wait a minute, why would we need church then? We don't since church forgives and that's a weakness and breeding ground for degeneracy.

Nah he's right, society is fucked. People can change their minds and women do that often.

>Looks a flag
>oh its a finn
Didnt think you guys were cucks yet.
Get this. If you eat her pussy, her ass and fuck the living hell out of her she will not even think about other men.
Fuck her good, and treat her good (if she deserves it)

Just find the right girl, nigga

>fucking ass
You think this is how you become grandpa and grandma?

You can do anything to a woman.

Just don't bore her.
Sounds like you're lame, OP

With that kind of attitude, you'll be the cuck sooner or later. Probably sooner.

>Get this. If you eat her pussy, her ass and fuck the living hell out of her she will not even think about other men.

Why are you lying? Plenty of women cheat on men who have sex with them, they constantly complain that their not feeling it and go off and fuck other men.

I saw the title and came here ready to read some shill faggotry. But you finnished the thread in one post, OP.

Also, be sure to use force while having sex, showing who is ACTUALLY in charge. They love that. They always cry about muh patriarchy and muh rape culture but the truth is they love to be destroyed.

t. never been in a relationship kissless virgin

>autistic virgin giving relationship advice
Git gud taste in women fag

>again looks a flag
>oh its a britcuck

of course they cheat on you, brit girls are sluts and brit men are cucks.
When i go there they fall at my feet without me even trying.

Met my wife when I was 18. 32 now, two kids. Seriously I'm trying to give you a real answer, but if you want to live in this fantasy world where all women are feminazi coal burners then good luck with that. I'm sure you'll have a happy fulfilled life.

...

Plus, i never said anything about "having sex".
I said "Fuck the living hell out of her"
The fact you cant tell the difference makes the difference between you and me.
You make sweet love to them and then get cucked because she wants a real man.
I fuck the shit out of them and leave them shaking on the corner of the bed wondering if she just got raped or not.
Thats the difference.

Then when you are 38 and she leaves and starts fucking all kinds of chinks and niggers you will come to Sup Forums and wonder if it was worth it wasting your life on a pussy. Then you will go full MGTOW force.

lmfao, you know nothing about me. yet you seem to projecting a lot of insecurities, got something to tell us buddy?

>i-iii get lots of women you silly britcuck, just gotta fuck em hard.

True. I've seen women rationalize cheating in ways you can't even fathom. And they had a good husband and according to them great sex. They still wanted the D' and attention.
Her husband's flaw? A busy weekend where he had to work extra. Truly disgusting.
t. She was a friend. I tried to persuade her to not do it. She did it anyway and earned a divorce.

Tradcons will never accept it because it contradicts their literal last desperate hope. Accepting that you're right means accepting that their while ideology is based on a false premise. They're being blindly all they have in the hope that maybe if you're alpha enough your wife won't cuck you. Off course, that's a false assumption, there's always someone more alpha than you and even Hollywood stars get cucked.

just influence her entire world then, easy fix

This.

did you even read OP?

>You may be able to keep it together for a few months, a few years, and maybe even a decade, but eventually it will collapse.

women think differently than men, they constantly need attention and if you dont give it to them will move on, their foundations for a world view start with the man and end once he loses interest.

dumb posters.

I guess the trick is to not get married. One important thing needs to be said with married couples, if they do divorce and don't settle it between each other and need suing and lawyers and that kind of shit, then you probably wasted your life with that person.

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There are no options, no even in south america (who told you that bulshit? maybe some racemixer), but retards will keep saying what op posted
>inb4 "just find the right girl, nigga"

did you not read my post?
you are referencing something that is way more limited than what I suggested.

If you influence her entire world that means you change it for the better.

OP tried creating an illusion, ofc its temporary

I advocate real change, you just gotta influence those other people too

Human beings are more impatient than they are greedy.

People think that giving women stuff or providing will solve the problems, but it doesn't.

You have to fill her time. Keep HER busy with work or leisure activities with you and this ceases to be a problem.

Don't work a job that undermines your schedule. Remember, she isn't greedy as much as she is impatient. If she was greedy, her and her family would be rich.

you start with the closest people to her, then suddenly you have a little team all advocating the same stuff, think about it like politics

its impossible, women dont think like that. they will change their world view with whatever partner they are with. they dont care what you think they will just agree with you and continue to fuck other men in their 20s and then realise in their 30s its time to settle down and your the emotional doormat.

When middle-life crisis hits some relationships, then you have to pull out vacation every week and go outside every day. The media is filling people's heads and then friends fill your wife's head with importance through visiting and doing stuff...she be thinking, was i special or not. Go on user pay vacation every week and drive her around every day, maybe she overcomes middlelife crisis in 2 years, else you are fucked.

colonize the pussy

farm it out. make it fertile. logical. controlled.

tame the jungle and reap her bounty

ITT: high test alpha male psychologists with many hot anonymous partners

you losers are pathetic. Catch the red flags and get out of shitty relationships
with your tear ducts still dry and you won't be complaining on a chinese image
board about how women are whores. plenty of good ones out there if you'd stop
fapping to anime and get out there

not really impatient either, just emotionally controlled.

keep her busy for sure, but with something useful like kids

Nah, you just beta. Girls don't give a shit about their "friends" if they catch a high value men. Last girl i was dating stopped hanging out with her roastie friends because i told her that she can go and be with them and i will go call some roasties too.

Basically in order to keep girls, you need to be better than her(which is easy because they barely have anything going for them other than appearance), don't fall for her shit-tests and attempts to drag you down and she should know that you ready to leave her if she crosses any line that you set for her.
Biggest mistake by far is making her the most important part of your life. She should be no higher that third or in my case fifth important part. With you and your career/passion on top.

Children are ok as long as they aren't also children from other people. Women who guard other people's children are normally strange.

And that partner in this case is me, or the men that my GF's friends date, and those are even easier targets, you literally just made my argument stronger

I lucked out with my wife. She was raised in the rural country for half her life.

Her dad literally banned tv from their house because it triggered him. Parents were teetotal so she barely drinks.

So she didn't grow up being programmed by pop culture. Even now she has to mute every advert because she hates the noise.

so you want to be the doormat and take up some used 30 year old pussy because your the 52nd best for her? okay, good luck.

it have to be your kids ofc

OP says it all
real men don't change but change the world around them
/thread

Every time I date someone it's always so damn sad that they have practically no family to speak of, when I've been part of a nuclear family my entire life.

why are you adding things that I never said?
Stop projecting your own failures onto me, I don't have your problems mate

anyone who isn't a complete moron hates television

like jesus fuck, I can't be the only one who yelled at television any time a gang member "found redemption" or some stupid bullshit like that

it was like watching flying pigs or laser powers

I see I won the argument because you have no idea what your talking about, I dont have any failures because I would never marry a women. Good luck.

The OP pic makes me really think

you won nothing, you are just mad that I can get girls while you can't so you add some bullshit you imagined about age etc

you are just pathetic if you think that is winning but good luck in life

Enjoy those new shows where every show has interracial something and you criticizing it will make you look like a racist. You know it won't work out long unless you go full cuck. There are certain type of women who find criticism very hard to digest, even if it is justifiable.

>you are just mad you cant get girls

literally a feminist argument. maybe tumblr is more to your liking buddy.

>I tried to create a serene bubble of patriarchy and goodness
AHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Thanks, I laughed. Now go home and play your video games, kid.

>We’re all products of our environment

Pathetic, laughable weakling.

>getting his dick wet means he is a feminst
just give up man

hes right though, people are products of nurture rather than nature.

I never said that but keep thinking your saying something.

You provide original ideas OP. But unfortunately your deductions are not sound nor complete. I'm afraid that your conclusion of "it will eventually collapse" lacks a proper deduction. And so does the other conclusions you have made.

I'm afraid that all your ideas might just be fantasies inside your head. Sorry op.

the chinese were right to ban almost everything

television and media have wrought irreversible evil on humanity, where we can just create ideas out of thin air

older stories were wrought in the engines of death and survival. if people had stupid ideas from stories, they died. only the smart stories stuck around.

so story younger than 400 years shuold be allowed to be sold as a book.

if we run out of stories, too bad. people will have to do productive things instead of waste 8 hours a day watching t.v.

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