Ready to bend over to your new lord, /pol? China will overtake the U...

Ready to bend over to your new lord, /pol? China will overtake the U.S in just a couple of years for being the supreme world power.

>Largest population
>Leaders in renewable energy
>Leaders in economic growth

How can the west even compete?

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China is still a shithole with terrible living standards.

AHhahahahah.

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> Population going down
> Reduced life span in many areas due to toxic waste and smog
OP you are not up to date I guess

there will be no "china". if you see all these mustering their armies and stirring one another it's not the countries that are doing so. Every superpower (china, russia, usa) is in the end under the command of intelligence services like CIA which are loyal to their ET overlords to the death. once the world has been globalized there will be no china, usa or russia fighting each other, there will only be the mankind toiling for the ET overlords.

This is far from the truth

The Chinese lack creativity an rely on stealing ideas.

How much cock do globalist sinff to believe that would work?

most of the globalists are lobotomized, they don't think at what they spew, their thoughts are inserted by their ET overlords

For what it's worth, China has a lot of internal problems. To say that China and the USA are remotely comparable is pure folly.

What the Chinese have done right:
The government HEAVILY subsidizes manufacturing
The government actively intervenes in manufacturing industry and makes sure that the brightest people get manufacturing jobs, it also heavily leverages the financial/banking world to give loans to manufacturing companies and entrepreneurs.
It is infinitely easier to get a loan in China to say "I want to manufacture granite countertops" than it is in the US

China's only problem is currency related
What the USA does right:
Has a very well established public/private government system that works relatively well (when it actually works)
Is very efficient at building social infrastructure
Extremely well built and maintained research environment, you might say the US is the capital of the worlds research talent.
A number of monolithic corporations that single handed make the USA what it is.
A huge financial establishment that is head and shoulders above every other nation.

You must not underestimate the USA regardless of how bleak things currently appear for the average worker.

Things the USA could do better

Let's face it, the two party system has fucked this country sideways. The USA needs to have a constitutional convention and rewrite its election system (and no I'm not talking about "popular vote" nonsense that California peddles). Jerrymandering districts, rigging the courts, rigging the agricultural dept/EPA to be ineffective, all of these things contribute massively to the US's current state of affairs

Finally, the USA must address corruption on Wallstreet. This means, some people have to die (George Soros being at the top of the list). The Fed Reserve must be consolidated into the US government, we cannot have the only financial policy makers in the nation being completely unaccountable to the US people. The US government must take a more active role in investing in US infrastructure and actually building up the nation. Currently, the US government is ineffective, weak, degrading.

Good. If the US is so incapable of doing anything with the massive lead they built off the back of slave labor, fuck them. Empires rise and fall all the time. The US isn't special or immune to this in any way. Fuck them.

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Do it user. Run for office.

This is just like the "economic war" between Britain and Germany before ww2 (and before ww1)

Remember what happened?
Either the west accepts our new overlords... OR there will be a war.

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Depends. The biggest problem for chyna is the pollution

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im ready to bend over a chink girl with my dick

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No it's not. Parents with money in China send their kids to Australia, Western Europe and the US for education and [hopeful] citizenship. How many parents from those lands are sending their kids to China for the same? China's economy is not as strong as people think, the amount of risk involved makes the US look completely safe by comparison. China cannot sustain the massive growth they've achieved.

shiieeeet that's some final destination right there.

China is also in the works for their own Nicaraguan Canal, to compete against the Panama Canal. While the Panamanian Canal has been "officially" been handed over to the Panamanian government (I'm sure the US got something out of doing it), the Chinese will surely be in control of the Nicaraguan Canal in exchange for something else. If they can get the pricing competitive to use it over the US-created Panamanian Canal, we could really see a huge boon to the Chinese economy.

Also, the Chinese wouldn't have to pay themselves to use their own Canal since they are shipping craploads of useless shit all over the world every day.

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holleee fuck the arm just goes flying

WUZ MANDATE OF HEAVEN AND SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

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The truth has been spoken

Do Chinese not understand how elevators work?

I keep seeing them busting through the doors.

What the fuck happened here???

>Yet another China hate bait thread.
Fuck you, I ain't dying for ((You))

Holy fucking hell.

BTW that's clearly not china, the writing is thai.

How many parts of this are fake?

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communist propaganda
sage

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>sage a thread when some crazy ass nigger doing folder dump

>83 dynasties

Literally what?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasties_in_Chinese_history

>How can the west even compete?
By being Americans.
Superior in every way to China except for China having a relatively impressive past, which makes the fact they're only JUST approaching super power status all the more embarassing.

>in just a couple of years for being the supreme world power.
lol ok kiddo

I love it when Viets BTFO of chinks.

Well tbf to the Chinese they were under Manchu domination until the 20th century.

>>Largest population

There are questions about whether their figures are accurate. Regardless the population is dominated by the elderly while youths are still a minority due to the one child policy. Even with the two child policy most of the youths are only having one child so their population will continue to tank.

>>Leaders in renewable energy
Their wind technology was literally stolen from an American company stupid enough to trust them. Their solar panels are of inferior quality to those made in many other countries but because they are cheap they still manage to dominate. Their hydro-electric dams are going to to cause an international incident since they are damming rivers which feed the ecosystems of multiple nations and threaten their continued existence. Their nuclear power programs are secretive, here is hopping they at least have adequate controls to prevent another incident like chernobyl. Speaking of chernobyl, they want to build solar facilities on the contaminated land, which is actually good idea save for one issue, the workers will be exposed to a carcinogenic environment for extended periods while building and may bring radioactive particles buried in the soil back towards the surface.

>>Leaders in economic growth

Its a sham. They build and build and build to keep up their gdp, control their currency, and illegally subsidize export. Plus they borrow money at an insane rate, their GDP growth maybe around 6-7% but their debt to gdp is as much as 5 times that, hense their downgrade, hense why they are heading straight for a depression.

China has and will never have any culture for export. They still are like a socialist economy in that they can only imitate and never innovate. They're just cheap labor and that's changing fast. At best China can carve out a niche in lower end production, mining, and chemical production, maybe. Then prepare for to become a Japan tier economy and society

India sure as fuck isn't going anywhere and the Gulf Arab States will be fucked in the future with most people leaving

Hey that's my pic and it's not a red pill. I only use that pic to point out the deceptive nature of chinks, along with links like these:
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/101585383/#101586656
desuarchive.org/int/thread/72993013/#73000640
Just don't call it a red pill, mate. That's a silly thing to do.

You're so full of shit. I know a lot of Chinese students at my university. Do you think they're here for the standard of living or to gain citizenship? So naive.

They hate the food here. Many come from cities the size of New York City or LA that have decent public transportation. They hate the inconvenience of American cities. Many feel they're discriminated against here. Many don't agree with any of the politics.

On the contrary, they're here to get out of taking the college entrance exam too seriously and have a moderately good time in college. Then they'll return to China with a degree from some US university and have a decent life in China.

right after they have access to clean drinking water and fix their cancer inducing pollution

Which will be never. Problem with China, the local governments are actually MORE corrupt than PRC itself. Like look at their anti-dumping inspectors, when they are around some companies play nice and act like they are doing their part to cut back on the run away pollution but then at night go right back to dumping because the inspector isn't around to report it. Sure they could get caught but until people start dropping like flys nobody gives a fuck, especially not the local leaders since they get nice bribes out of the deal to give them heads ups and look the other way.

China achieved a miracle in 30 years, problem is they created a culture while doing it which will ultimately destroy them.

Not to mention s bunch of their growth is bullshit projects funded by the government for no reasons. Brand new cities sitting completely empty.

nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/china
Kek $11k in interest on their debt per second.
Is this reliable?

China is fucked tbqh.

china is ripe for redpills right now, theyre malleable for outside ideologies due to opening up, and the internet, that redpill eforst should be focused mainly towards this country

also the comunist party should transition to a traditionalist revival nationalist party

Source?

This rare flag is right.
But how do we get to them? Don't they block most of the internet?

>China will overtake the U.S in just a couple of years
I've been hearing this since the 90's

youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY

Saw this yesterday, it's so cool.

I'm hyped for the rise of China, it'll be dope as fuck.

Sorry burger bro, there will never exist a world where you are not allowed to shart in a mart.

Keep crying, bitches.
China is already #1 and has DOUBLE the US growth rate.
SUCK IT

China grows larger while America grows fatter.

>in just a couple of years

Nobody says this unless they mean just total GDP. In terms of military might or influence or living standards they would have to stay on the right tracks for a few decades still.

Yes, but do you have diversity?

They would have to stay on the tracks for another 50 years or more before the entirety of China reaches US living standards. However, China has 5 times the population of the US, and 1/5th of China's population already has US grade living standards or better.

China's investing heavily into all forms of energy while Western countries are intentionally trying to reduce our energy usage. It's stupid as fuck on our part.

because of USA lowering taxes, getting rid of regulation, and fixing trade; The destruction of the EU with freer markets; and China's currency inflation due to it being in socialist sector. That is how, and the USA is still #1 so even if China passes us, we wont be very far behind and can surpass china easy. Fk your narrative

American GDP/capita is about 7 times as high as China's. China has about 6.5-7% gdp growth/annum. America struggles to average out at 2.

40 years until they equalize in GDP/capita at these rates, but they would pass America in millitary might and global influence far, far sooner. International tribulations are projected for the 2030s, prepare your buttholes.

We could easily compete if we got our heads out of our asses.

I'm ready to welcome our new overlords.

This is true but only in an abstract sense. Simply "pulling our heads out of our asses" is much easier said than done and could take generations.

>Simply "pulling our heads out of our asses" is much easier said than done and could take generations.
I-i-it could happen. Anytime now ;_;

Y-yeah, definitely. Any moment now our people will awake and then it's international Reich.

When the US attacks itself as a result of ongoing PsyOps in the information space, China will easily surpass US GDP.
Russia will negotiate "zones of influence" from a position of strength. US will be to busy with race riot, financial industry failure and tax revolts to even protest meaningful. The total domination of all cyber space by RU is only now becoming clear to US intel in all its strategic and tactical glory.
Not only has RU captured the executive branch, but they have comprehensive control of the entire US digital infrastructure.
Thanks to the inherently insecurable internet and the greed of the computer security industry, US has no incentive to recognize this even post digital Pearl Harbor.

Holy fucking shit, can relate.

t. delusional chink

styrofoam is a common material in construction
depends on what that is

Financial analyst here. China is fucked, and anyone in the everyone industry knows it.

Basically, the Chinese had to build themselves up from nothing to what they are now. For a while, they did things kind of the right way. Largely protectionist policies and easy credit led to extreme economic growth for a long time.

They needed to modernize, though. Anyone can build shitty factories and huge tracts of row houses and field an army. But they wanted to be a legit leading country. So they started issuing debt to try to speed up the development process (and doubled down after 2008), otherwise they'd always be 20 years behind the US and the EU.

It kinda worked. They have a fairly competent, modern military filled with lots of people. The economy is rapidly shifting to a consumer economy. Cities with modern amenities are everywhere.

But the debt will destroy it all. The central government officially reports a debt-to-GDP ratio of 42.9%. Sounds nice. But it's a lie. Basically, the Chinese government hides all its debt in the provincial governments, state owned corporations, and state-run banks.

When you include all the debt the central government is ultimately on the hook for, it's somewhere in the 250% to 300% debt to GDP range. To put that in perspective, Greece basically destroyed the European economy after defaulting on loan payments in response to a 110% debt to GDP ratio (Greece is now at 177%, FYI).

China is 2.5 times more indebted than Greece was. The thing is, China's big enough that people still lend to them. They still pay things back reasonably well because the central government shifts all it's debt off its books to other entities. But when China comes crashing down (and it's only a matter of time), it will destroy China.

The Chinese got greedy and impatient and mortgaged the future for military and economic modernization RIGHT NOW. China is a large house built upon sand. and eventually it will be washed out.

How much time does China have left before assploding?

>21st century
>still using coal
Tippity top kek.

Crypto-chink, stop trying, your gig is already exposed.

its funny that for these theories to work something about china must be a lie otherwise it doesnt work
> muh debt
> mu h real estate bubble ghost cities
> muh fake growth
china wil keep growing sadly for butthurt amerinigs

No, you can't.

Fuck your standards.

Okay. I'll name it something else.

No one really knows. Basically, it's the same story for any heavily indebted country. They're fine so long as people keep lending to them. And people will keep lending so long as they believe they'll get repaid in money worth roughly what it's worth at the time of lending.

China just got a credit downgrade, and talk of serious issues with Chinese debt is no longer just a whisper in the back rooms of financial firms.

If the global financial community no longer has confidence in being repaid by the Chinese central government, they'll stop lending. At that point, everyone calls in their debts to get cash. Credit seizes up, business and industry grind to a halt. Everyone loses their job.

That means no one pays taxes, which means the government can't service debt payments and defaults. When the government can't pay the bills, shit gets bad. If the military loses faith in the state, they may take over. Or you might have a massive peasant uprising that the military is powerless to stop without plunging the country into civil war.

Any number of things could happen. Humans are unpredictable.

But one thing is certain, no one can bail out China. They're too big and would require way too much money. You're talking tens of trillions of dollars (US) to keep the Chinese economy from collapsing while covering the trillions and trillions in debt owed by state owned companies and the provinces, as well as the central government.

In short, when China goes down, it's going to take down every economy heavily entangled with it. It could trigger a worldwide depression. But there's just no money left to bail them out. Trillions have been spent keeping small countries like Greece or Ireland from collapsing, so there's no hope in a bailout for China.

Growth slowed to 6.5% even with all the government tricks and bubbles, wtf are you talking about

"its funny that for these theories to work something about china must be a lie otherwise it doesnt work"

I explained this already. I literally said "the Chinese government hides all its debt in the provincial governments, state owned corporations, and state-run banks."

This is the great lie of China. The idea that they could issue debt like crazy, maintain a ridiculous GDP growth rate, and not be swamped in debt is absurd. The great lie is catching up to them. Eventually, teh lending ends, and when it does China is fucked.