Daily reminder that the only modern religious ideology Evola that was acceptable in the West was Traditional Latin...

Daily reminder that the only modern religious ideology Evola that was acceptable in the West was Traditional Latin Catholicism.

Protestant ideology is soft and not compatible with fascism or right wing ideology.

Protestants are by their very nature revolutionary and democratic. They only breed chaos.

America was bound to break away from Britain because the colonies were dominated by angsty Protestants who look at any injustice as an excuse to rebel.

debate me

>Traditional Latin Catholicism
What's the difference to modern Catholicism? I don't know and I'm genuinely curious.

>America was bound to break away from Britain because the colonies were dominated by angsty Protestants who look at any injustice as an excuse to rebel.
>implying thats a bad thing
>implying serving (((britain))) was good

If you are interested everything can be traced back to the Second Vatican Council in the 1960s

This is when the church basically abandoned the Latin Mass that everyone in Europe and North America had been following for hundreds and hundreds of years

No matter where you were in the West the mass was always exactly the same (in Latin) except for the homily (in the vernacular)

Since the 1960s the Catholic Church has become increasingly liberal, democratic and degenerate...acting more like Protestants.

All of the terrible scandals can essentially be traced back to the errors of Vatican II. Even the pedo priests. As people stopped taking mass seriously normal men stopped becoming priests. To counter social stigma gay people became priests to be respectable...and there were also of course lots of pedos among them.

The modernist church is dying out. No one goes to mass. No more priests, monks or nuns. The abomination of desolation its called in the Bible.

Traditional Latin groups resist the errors of Vatican II and essentially want to bring the church to a reboot before the 1960s when evetryitng went to shit

>To counter social stigma gay people became priests to be respectable...and there were also of course lots of pedos among them.
the (((church))) has been full of homosexuals and pedophiles long before 1960, to suggest otherwise is fucking hilarious. himmler said so himself in his speech to the SS officers about homosexuality.

Furthermore you have different types of traditional groups

Some are in full communion with the church
>Tridentine Mass Societies
>FSSP

Some are in a grey area..not quite in...not quite out
>SSPX
They are resolving their issues with the pope. Previous popes had problems with them rejecting Vatican II. Benedict XVI opened up the doors to the traditional groups...but Francis is more opposed

>SSPV
This gets complicated. They are not in good standing with the church and some say they have completely broken with it. They absolutely refuse Vatican II and will not compromise. Some of them believe the current pope is an anti-pope and don't respect his authority

Either way

There are lots of groups of oppose the liberalism of Catholicism. In the USA they are growing stronger each day.

I think what will happen is the current church will continue to get old and die...and these new vibrant (but currently small) groups will rise and take positions of power

Its all very interesting

Yeah that's why all the Protestant Germans voted for Hitler and won the election for him.

>Muh Pagan Catholicism
>Muh no women
>Muh little boys
>Muh pope

sure but there were plenty of fags in the SA too

you are always going to have a fag problem when you have an all male organization thats hundreds and hundreds of years old. But at least they weren't messing with kids like they were in the 70s. Who knows

what are the reasons that so many priest are gay and/or pedophile?

>Daily reminder

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(Mossad), the paid Catholic shills, and the Paid Russian Orthodoxy shills push this... All of these groups = the Alt-Right meme.


The "elite" is code for Jews and their blackmailed sociopath pedophiles (Hillary's mom was a Jew). Because Jews run a child sex slave ring out of Ukraine/Israel and sometimes South America (see Hatti and Clintons) and use pedophiles as their boot-licking goy politicians/celebrities.

They use the symbolism of the occult because it's a marketing campaign to cover up for Zionist and Jewish Communist crimes/power moves. The occult became degenerate as fuck ever since Thelma (Alestor Crowley), Anton (((Levy))) of Hollywood Satanism, and Navy Intelligence groups took over the scene; although it was always a place for scam artists. Freemasons became corrupted after being bought out by Jews in the mid-1800s -- thanks to Napoleon emancipating the Jews and the Rothschild take over Britain with the fall of Napoleon (See Rothschild's run on the stocks after Battle of Waterloo)

Catholics and Russians are both pro-Communism and therefor cover for them too by telling you it's "Satanists" and not Jewish Communists and their Zionist mafia allies. This is something the John Birch Society did when re-inventing the "Illuminati" meme (see Alex Jones connection).

Moloch = word meaning KING (Assyrian)

Moloch propaganda = Jewish hate of enemy king, like they do to Assad

's'atan = Aramaic word meaning "adversary", any adversary, or many adversaries.

Satan the character = Catholic meme to demonize our ancestral gods and dumb down Bible references for stupid plebeian audiences.

Synagogue of Satan = Pro-Roman Jews. Jesus was a Zealot.

Evola thought there were problems with the Catholic church as well. On the sanctity of marriage he thought it was nonsense that the Church claim marriage was sacred when they allowed divorce. If marriage was the eternal bond of man and woman with God, then there was way to sever the bonds. In the past, widows stayed widowed until their deaths because their marriage vows were until death. Such contradictions are nothing more than a manifestation of Kali Yuga in the mortal plane, anyways.

>Furthermore
Hey, I know you faggot!

REMINDER - THIS IS A SPONSORED THREAD:


(Mossad), the paid Catholic shills, and the Paid Russian Orthodoxy shills push this... All of these groups = the Alt-Right meme.


The "elite" is code for Jews and their blackmailed sociopath pedophiles (Hillary's mom was a Jew). Because Jews run a child sex slave ring out of Ukraine/Israel and sometimes South America (see Hatti and Clintons) and use pedophiles as their boot-licking goy politicians/celebrities.

They use the symbolism of the occult because it's a marketing campaign to cover up for Zionist and Jewish Communist crimes/power moves. The occult became degenerate as fuck ever since Thelma (Alestor Crowley), Anton (((Levy))) of Hollywood Satanism, and Navy Intelligence groups took over the scene; although it was always a place for scam artists. Freemasons became corrupted after being bought out by Jews in the mid-1800s -- thanks to Napoleon emancipating the Jews and the Rothschild take over Britain with the fall of Napoleon (See Rothschild's run on the stocks after Battle of Waterloo)

Catholics and Russians are both pro-Communism and therefor cover for them too by telling you it's "Satanists" and not Jewish Communists and their Zionist mafia allies. This is something the John Birch Society did when re-inventing the "Illuminati" meme (see Alex Jones connection).

Moloch = word meaning KING (Assyrian)

Moloch propaganda = Jewish hate of enemy king, like they do to Assad

's'atan = Aramaic word meaning "adversary", any adversary, or many adversaries.

Satan the character = Catholic meme to demonize our ancestral gods and dumb down Bible references for stupid plebeian audiences.

Synagogue of Satan = Pro-Roman Jews. Jesus was a Zealot.

Because Hitler tolerated Christianity (Positive Christianity) as superior to atheism or communism

You could see with his workings with the SS that they were really a neo pagan movement

If the Nazis had won I doubt Christianity would have survived into the future

>sure but there were plenty of fags in the SA too
you mean until himmler killed them.
>you are always going to have a fag problem when you have an all male organization thats hundreds and hundreds of years old.
only if that organization is jewish.
>But at least they weren't messing with kids like they were in the 70s.
obviously they were. fags didnt just magically become pedophiles in the 70's, look at their history, theyve been pedophiles forever because they are evil. even much of the church's "art" is suspect, like what the fuck is a cherub. they have fucking painting of naked children all over the god damn church as 'cherubs', and that isnt weird to you?

Right but it was a system that Evola could work with

Thats the way he viewed Italian and German Fascism as well

Not perfect but workable and moldable

hugely different. the second vatican council was basically deracinating Catholicism and turning it into a marxist jewish cult instead of a European one. I am not a christian anymore but had i born in the days of Father Coughlin i would be able to buy into it. You could argue vatican 2 was a response to world war 2 as well, since the church actually did support hitler and his anticommunist crusade and then he lost.

I had to stop going to mass and church in general because it was white guilt and refugees welcome 24/7

If I wear an Evola t-shirt, think people will recognize him?

Cherubs really don't mean anything its more of an artistic style

I think its impossible to say how deep the gay/pedo network runs throughout Catholic history. Im sure its bad I don't deny that.

But just because there are bad priests doesn't discount the faith

I would have like the Vatican to burn pedos at the stake to send a clear message that it wouldn't be tolerated instead of trying to play damage control and sweep it under the rug

no but if someone does they can automatically be your new best friend. So it might be worth it

It would be extremely autistic.

Catholicism before Vatican II

Wow did you read that from Table Talks?

Hitler did not give two shits about religion. He banned the Jehovah Witnesses but that's about it. He was on friendly terms with the Protestants, Catholics, non religious, the Mormons, and even the fucking Muslims.

This notion that Europeans mass adopting (insert religion here) is going to save us is fucking retarded.

because faggots and pedophiles are easily manipulated through blackmail. they also have a group mentality where they work with each other in secret, and hate non-gays. basically fags are kikes and the kikes have been using fags forever. the church are kikes.

you should start going back dude

Its our duty to uncuck the church from within

That is our generations struggle

We weren't given nice things. We had to find them, dust them off and make it again.

We are the heroic generation

>clerical fascism
Fucking kill yourself

>papists
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

the fuck is table talks?

Hitler merely pandered to Christians and cultivated neo paganism with SS research/academic groups.

Positive Christianity was promoted

...

you understand that "burning at the stake" is a burnt offering to (((saturn))), right? the church has been compromised for a LONG fucking time, just the fact they actually "burned" the heretics, shows they are blatantly part of the kikes cult.

hanging and drowning are the proper ways to kill scum, burnt offerings to moloch isnt.

You'd get fired probably if someone did and they told people.

He was one of the most misogynistic person to ever live, let alone being a massive fascist. You'd definitely get fired.

>What is Vatican II

>2017
>not combining a fascist state with a rightwing church

ISHYGDDT

But what about Heiliges feuer?

you're a big fascist

And how many people are actually going to be willing to sit through a fully Latin service realistically every week? I mean its a lovely idea but I can't imagine a lot of young people getting in to it.

>rightwing
>(((church)))
because gays, pedophiles, and kikes are "right wing"?

>burning people at the stake is a pagan conspiracy

go back to /x/ m8

Hitlers Table Talks, an infamous forgery where most morons get the idea that Hitler disdained Christianity.

Hitler had contempt for most Neo Pagans because they were primarily schizoid retards, and he disdained Himmler's interests in esotericism.

Positive Christianity is just normal Christianity without hostile Jewish elements.

Its 1.5 not bad. My church is filled with young families. More young people go to the Latin Mass than do the regular normal mass. Its also beautiful as fuck. The music is top notch. It has a really vibrant homeschool community of kids. The pews are filled. And the best part is...those kids will all have large traditional families. Best place to find a solid wife

>Positive Christianity is normal Christianity

no its not

found the kike. catholocism is pagan, by the way, thats why they worship mary aka semiramis.

>following a Jewish religion

People will get what you're going for.
>"user why do you have some weird black-and-white old guy on your shirt? Are you some kind of weirdo?"

Get in line with the Catholic Church or burn in hell heretic

FOR
YOU


>glad you caught that btw

sorry faggot, the nazis were going to destroy all of you kike pedophiles for damn good reason.

Lol the catholic church was outraged in the 30's because the nazis banned homosexuality and arrested clergymen for fucking kids.

And God punished the Nazis because they abandoned Christ

What did Evola think about the jews?

Wow you have really bought into Allied war propaganda.

The notion that the Reich was anti Christian was a tactic to make American Christians feel like Christianity was threatened by Hitler. All of these anti Christian quotes came from Table Talks which is an obvious fabrication.

Whenever (((they))) want to shame a particular group they try to lump Hitler in with that group. So when ((they)) want to emphasize Hitlers connections with Catholicism they start bringing up Catholic complicity with the Holocaust where 60 billions Jews were turned into soap.

When they want to attack neo Pagans they emphasize the SS connections with Arthurian mythos and such. When they want to promote a Zionist anti Arab sentiment they emphasize positive comments Hitler made to the Mufti of Jerusalem about Islam. This is all propaganda.

he was fucking redpilled obviously

Let's all pls go explain this to /christian/
They are mostly very anti fascist, but also anti communist

So point me in the direction of real info

I've read Mein Kampf and he wasn't really ra ra Christianity

Was he? Didn't he disavow the 3rd reich?

rebellion and individuality are the source of our power
nonwhites are not capable of handling the responsibility

And he rewarded the USSR with victory after they murdered thousands of clergymen and christians and banned the practice of christianity? lol

lmao what do you think Julius Evola thought about the jews. That wop literally said that National Socialism wasn't right wing enough. Bowden said he was possibly the worlds most right wing thinker. Look up his talk on youtube.

quick google search should point you in the right direction

He just wasn't down with Hitler's fanatical obsession with blood purity

history isn't finished. we'll see what happens

Just one problem: Vatican II is infallible, like all the others. The Church can't fix itself.

Which is cool. It needs to die. Many middling Whites will be lost to degeneracy, but many who could be fully redpilled were it not for Cucktianity will grow stronger.

Friends, our numbers will be reduced but the Whites who make it through the reset are going to be badasses.

yes. himmler talked about it in his speech to the SS about homosexuality

>Didn't he disavow the 3rd reich?
He didn't think it was radical enough. Evola was hardcore. He thought the SS was the best part because they were a sort of knightly class. The black knights.

>you will never go mountaineering with Evola in the Swiss Alps

fucking hurts

How will Evola help me put my penis in a vagina?

>muh right wing curch
Romans 11:11-31

>Vatican II is infallible

Nothing about VII is infallible you fucking mong

The next Pope could overturn it and scrap it day 1 of his papacy

He wrote many books on tantric sex.

Evola got himself paralyzed because he choose to walk around during an air raid instead of go into a bomb shelter like a normal member of the bourgeoisie

Is this nigga retarded?

The Greatest Story Never Told.

But really I'm not saying Hitler was a Christian he just wasn't virulently anti Christian like Neo Pagans and Jews claim he was based on questionable sources.

Make sure you got the proper translation of Mein Kampf people say most have been altered. I would say Hitler was a Napoleonic figure, he did'nt care much about religion and would have been fine letting people practice whatever they wanted to, he took issues with the Jehovah Witnesses because they refused to fight for him as they are pacifists. But other than that he entertained the Mormon missionaries and adopted a meat free monday or something like that from the them, where you abstain from meat to give charity to the poor, he entertained Orthodox priests, Muslim Imams,etc he was just a practical guy.

I have an older 1939 version

Yeah I never really got the impression he cared all that much about religion

Hitler saw religion, I think, as a sot of division that Germans needed to overcome. Germany had been split mnay times by religion, in fact one of Hitlers greatest irks was the fact that his home of Austria was left out of German unification because it was catholic.

I think from this he sort of had an ambivalence to religion, and in the thousand year reich, christianity would soon become irrelevant next to the far more exciting religion of national socialism.