Why are right wingers such big cucks for the billionaire class and large corporations who promote globalism because it...

Why are right wingers such big cucks for the billionaire class and large corporations who promote globalism because it increases their profits?

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You should probably ask that question somewhere else becasue people here seem to be rarely in favor of the elites.

You're right!
Everyone paying more taxes to the government will surely make all of us wealthy...

ITT retards who will defend this.

With that ridiculous strawman the only retard here is you.

At least governments are somewhat accountable to the people, corporations are unaccountable to nobody. They basically control our governments nowadays. Read up on the Business Roundtable and DAVOS. These are the people running the world. Not the people.

We must take back control before its too late.

Also we're not talking about increasing taxes on the middle class we're talking about the very elite of society. You're not going to be affected you pathetic boot licking kike.

yer I've noticed it too. What's funny is that they've deluded themselves into believing they are anti-establishment simply because they hate refugees. They don't understand the actual reasons why we have a refugee crisis in the first place and it's all got to do with multinationals.

They are retards on Sup Forums who believe in free trade and giving corportations the power to do whatever they like and they wonder why we have a large immigration problem of low skilled people. Surely it's not because corporations benefit from the increased demand for their products and surely large corporations don't benefit from the reduced wages.

Despite all their problems they still provide jobs for a massive amount of people.
If you tax them too much they take those jobs elsewhere. Corporations don't actually care about people, they just want to make money. You can't just tax people in power to get what you want. They'll just use that power to screw everyone below them.

HERE IS AN ECONOMICS LESSON

GOVERNMENTS NEVER INCREASE PRODUCTIVITY

NEVER

ITS ALWAYS THE PRIVATE SECTOR

GOVERNMENTS MAKE ATOM BOMBS, BIO WEAPONS AND SHITSKIN TERRORISTS

IF IT WASN'T FOR THE GOVERNMENT WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE INTERNET IN 1700 AND BEEN ON MARS BY NOW

ALL TAXATION IS THEFT, ALL OF IT

>those feels when trickle down is not even an economic theory

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Can't tell if this is serious or a shitpost.

No, they don't. They prevent jobs from being done for anyone else's interests.
Maybe jobs shouldn't be held hostage by corporations.
>leaf
Oh, just projecting your kink onto society. Carry on, then.

If the left had their way they would just piss away the money on things like more money for worthless education programs.

So I don't really see how taxing the rich more would help the middle class unless they gave more direct tax cuts to the middle class.

most of right wings larp as billionares, including dwellers of Sup Forums. im serious

And what fucking good is increased productivity if we never see the benefits from it? In other words, why shouldn't the people just kill all the managers and CEOs?

THIS BUTTHURT LIBERAL!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

YOUR TEARS ARE SO DELICIOUS AMERIBOO!

KYS FAGGOT!

really entices you to consider

SAGE

Actually, if you put liberals into wood chippers, you won't have that problem at all. What you will have is an inability to pretend that your luck is an essential virtue. Calvinism BTFO

Because the left/right dichotomy is a scam designed to pit the masses against one another. What we need is a third way.

>stop giving tax breaks and incentives to corporations
>corporations stop hiring
>corporations start letting people go
>corporations start cutting full-time employees to part-time and stop offering health insurance and benefits to those who lose hours
>corporations start making people who were employees become "independent contractors" so that they don't have to pay direct taxes on them or offer any perks/benefits/etc. (as happened to a friend who works for Harley-Davidson, came on as a contractor, was hired as an employee, then cuts came again and he was told "Well, you can keep your job, but you have to go back to being an independent contractor again and lose all your benefits in the process").

ITT: Liberals and commies who are far too stupid to understand the simple concept of "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction". Corporations aren't dumb enough to take the hit themselves and just PAY MUH HIGHER TAXES, the employees will be the ones to get buggered EVERY.SINGLE.TIME. And then, the same people who voted for costing themselves and others their previously decent employment all collectively wonder "GEE HOW DID THIS EVER HAPPEN?!?!" like a bunch of fucking dolts.

Here's the thing, lads - it's a flawed system, but attempting childish "fixes" that will buttfuck the working man even more are NOT the solution. Stop believing your retarded professors who make $150-250k/year who are telling you that they understand the plight of the common man and how to right the wrongs of capitalism, they're all just fucking retards pretending to have a clue.

Bump

Fuck marxism

Youll be eating your own kids out of starvation if Isis britboicucks don't blow you all up first.

Sup Forums would take a dick in the ass from the Sam Walton and then thank him for it after

>And what fucking good is increased productivity if we never see the benefits from it?

WHA WHA LET ME TYPE MY ANTI-CAPITALIST SCREED ON MY COMPUTER INVENTED SOLEY BY CAPITALISTS KILL THE CEOS WHAT DID JEFF BEZOS EVER EVENT FUCKING NOTHING WHA WHA CHE GUEVARA

Isnt high taxes just trickle down by another means?
Checkmate chinky eyes

Why do left-wingers claim to be against the system when every part of the system supports them?

>good goy trickle down works! we will all be rich
>good goy capitalists are very bad, our goverment will protect you, they know best

This is a fight between ((big business)) vs ((politicians)), not the plebs, they are fucked regardless.

military invented: cpu, gps
gov invented: internet, simcard
no private investors will dump moneys on research and tecnology that is high risk only public moneys bc even if fail it still be money mulitplier: good for economy.

>muh iphone
>muh daddy
We have computers now, and will still have computers after all the executives have been killed.

>What you will have is an inability to pretend that your luck is an essential virtue. Calvinism BTFO

what the fuck? do you even know what Calvinism is?

The problem with globalism is that the money is flying around from tax haven to tax haven. It's impossible to pin down when the money flow is so free.

>What's funny is that they've deluded themselves into believing they are anti-establishment simply because they hate refugees.
That's completely false. Utterly. Just got here from Reddit?

Sup Forums is overwhelmingly Libertarian or NatSoc.

Libertarians hate the megacorps because they've seize power through subsidies and kept it through bailouts.

NatSocs hate corporations because of their internationalist, semitic, and morally decadent influences.

Nobody here likes Google, Faceberg, AIG, what have you.

Yes, it's a way for the rich to pretend that God blessed them with their ill-gotten gains.

Capitalism has proven over and over again to be superior and i just don't like that abortions immigrants or refugees.

Most right wingers want to just drink beer ,shoot guns maybe, work for a living, and raise a family.

This. is true.

You don't have to be a commie to realize that multinationals and bankers are your mortal enemy. Why do you think that large part of your manufacturing base was outsourced and why are you being flooded with cheap labour from all over the world?

Because the day I become a billionaire I want all the fucking power and perks I deserve

The only people I encounter here that are pro globalism are the shills that come to troll Sup Forums

Not really, it's just proven itself a more lethal meme. Not exactly pro-life is it.
Which is exactly what we tell you you deserve, little bitch. You don't decide. WE DO.

>military invented: cpu, gps
>gov invented: internet, simcard

NO THEY DIDN'T FUCKING PRIVATE SECTOR CONTRACTORS INVENTED THAT SHIT

EVER MET A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE = NIGGERS

EVER MET A MILITARY PERSON = NIGGERS/WHITE TRASH

FUCKING WE WOULD HAVE HAD CPUS IN THE 1700s BUT NO GOVERNMENT HAD TO GENOCIDE EVERYONE ALL THE TIME FOREVER FUCKING IRAQ A MILLION DEAD , TEN THOUSAND FUTURE RESEARCHERS DEAD, OPPORTUNITY COSTS WHATS THAT MUH GOVERNMENT FUNDED RESEARCH

>Despite all their problems they still provide jobs for a massive amount of people.
Not because they care for the society or the nation you retard. They provide jobs out of desperation. As soon as they have the opportunity to automate or offshore they do so because it increases profit. Sure it's going to hurt the society and all those people dependent on them for survival but who fucking cares.

Corporations don't care about the well being of the nation. They are internationalist globalist hierarchical institutions hell bent on making profit by any means necessary. Multinationals are literally doing what you accuse kikes of doing which is to subvert.


>If you tax them too much they take those jobs elsewhere. Corporations don't actually care about people, they just want to make money.
Yes which is why we need to punish them if they do. Governments have the power right now to seize Google and Facebook if they please. They have the power to nationalize the banks. Remember, these corporations live under our mercy yet they are abusing their power.

What we need is National Socialism. We need to nationalize a lot of these corporations and make them government controlled and owned. This way they serve the people, the nation and society at large instead of a small number of kike shareholders.

"syrian people" LOL so much bullshit
most syrians are sunnis who wants the shiites who are in power down

>Yes, it's a way for the rich to pretend that God blessed them with their ill-gotten gains.

no it isn't
>For when Scripture enjoins us to lay aside private regard to ourselves, it not only
divests our minds of an excessive longing for wealth, or power, or human favour, but eradicates all ambition and thirst for worldly glory, and other more secret pests.
>Jean Calvin - The Institutes of the Christian Religion

do you even know what theology is?

>IF IT WASN'T FOR THE GOVERNMENT WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE INTERNET IN 1700
THE INTERNET WAS CREATED IN THE DEFENSE SECTOR (PUBLIC) USING TAX PAYER MONEY. ALL THE INNOVATIONS ARE MADE IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR BEFORE CORPORATIONS TAKE THE TECHNOLOGY AND MAKE A PROFIT OF IT. YOU FUCKING BABOON. READ A FUCKING BOOK.

>In 1973, the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) initiated a research program to investigate techniques and technologies for interlinking packet networks of various kinds. The objective was to develop communication protocols which would allow networked computers to communicate transparently across multiple, linked packet networks.
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kill yourself shill rat

With tax payer money, genius.

Its a cold world. One day i hope for peace for my people.

Not from my experience. Most people here shill for corporations and unbridled capitalism.

See komrade, if you give the government your money, you can get 30% of it back in the form of welfare! Is it not a great system of economics?

>Governments are somewhat accountable to the people
>Corporations are unaccountable to nobody. They basically control our government.
Get off your proxy leaf.

>tax cuts are a redistribution of wealth

>expect companies to grow or compete when heavily taxed/punished in a global market

nice try ha-joon gook

how about instead of taxing the rich more, we tax ourselves less.

HAHA YEAH GOVERNMENT SO GREAT AT INVENTING THINGS LOOK AT THIS TRAIN FULL OF FUCKING INTERNETS THE GOVERNMENT INVENTED FUCKING THE PRIVATE SECTOR COULD NEVER CREATE PRODUCTIVITY LIKE THIS THANK GOD FOR THE ENLIGHTENED GOVERNMENTS

OP, when's the last time you got a job from a poor person?

OH... you haven't? That's why trickle-down economics works.

/thread

They're not. That's why Obama and Bill Clinton won 2 elections each (of course, they turned out to be globalist shills as well), and that's why Trump won last year.

>Sage go in option

Businesses and jobs existed before trickle down economics, dummy.

Those statements are not contradictory though. Yes the corporations have huge power and influence over our government but we have the power to change that.

The government has the power right now to nationalize banks and cease the assets of globalist corporations. If we so choose. But it would require an overhaul of the current system.

Costumers are the one who really creates the jobs you dingus, "business men" are just a middleman leech

I never said multinationals were the ultimate be-all-end-all of perfection, but what I'm saying is this:

If you decide to start pummeling corporations with high taxes, it's the EMPLOYEES who are going to suffer the biggest consequences and NOT the upper level ownership or the rich investors.

History has proven a million times over that every time you try to fuck with the system, the system takes it out on the lowest level of those who work for it. Sure, you CAN tax these corporations more, and they're going to cut staff, hours, benefits and a lot more while the execs still get richer and don't suffer one bit.

Now, if you can find a way to actually change it so that the employees don't all get ass raped when you tax corporations more, I'd love to hear it, but that's going to require some pretty heavy fucking statism to make that happen, and that seems contradictory to what most here want.

It's a riddle with no easy answer.

Didn't know sex is zero guy was an economist.

>let the corps do whatever they want
Fuck off kike.

We're coming for you.

NatSoc will seize all your assets and nationalize your corporations to serve the interests of the people and the nation.

You capitalist kikes deserve a bullet.

Are you really this retarded? Read what I said, then read what you said again. Come back and tell us how you're not a fucking idiot.

Where does the customer get his money from, dingus? Moon fairies?

>when's the last time you got a job from a poor person?

This is total non argument. If this is your reasoning for why trickle down economics is good/necessary/effective, then you're fucking insane.

The ultra wealthy don't pay any taxes ever no matter what the "rate" is.

The "rich" people we're taxing are the upper-middle class who should be our biggest allies - and should be taxed less.

Then actually enforce anti-corruption laws.

>Where does the customer get his money from

From his own labor! ((money)) is confusing you, think it with, apples.

We work for the apples, we get apples. And then suddenly, some faggot comes and claims the apple trees are theirs, he passes you some paper called "good goy points" after you work hard in the apple trees, the good goy points are for buying apples, as its the own good in the world.

But guess what, you get less apples than for what you worked for, a little percentage less, because the faggot who "owns" the farm haves to take his cut. If you defend that you're a bootlicker faggot.

Actually it's a perfectly sound argument that blows your juvenile worldview all to shit. You have no fucking idea how to refute it (because you can't) so that's you're only rebuttal: "T..That's not an argument!!"

Just shut the fuck up.

How old are you?

Trickle down economics has NEVER worked. Rich people were rich before it. Business owners provided jobs before it. All it does is serve to make the rich richer. That's why with trickle down economics we went into periods of massive debt and an eventual economic crash.

Oh... so moon fairies are paying you for labor? Or is it someone/a pool of someones who have more money than you?

Don't think too hard.

DING! DING! DING!

Based leaf actually gets it - if we can't REALLY punish the wealthiest because they ALWAYS have options to avoid taxation one way or another, let's at LEAST fucking stop thinking that taxing the middle class and upper middle class is the solution to the problem.

All it's fucking doing is creating more lower-class poorfags and nothing more. Perhaps, fellas, we could actually give BENEFITS to the middle class/upper middle class and see how that changes things?

Being in the upper middle area (for my region, if I were in NYC I'd probably be considered poor) and a small business owner who employs a half dozen people, I know the fucking squeeze of being taxed to fucking death far too well. It's what has kept me from being able to budget additional hires I could really use right now, but alas, retarded leftists still think that I owe more money and want to bleed me out so their fee-fees can be comfy, but little do these faggots know that all their shit they want to do to get revenge on the wealthy only makes it hard on people like myself, and doesn't affect the 1% one fucking bit.

>It's a riddle with no easy answer.

I certainly agree that taxation alone won't solve anything as long as corporations hold an immense power over the government. And taxing them more is only an icing on the cake, I'd probably be content with only executives getting a substantial tax raise. Breaking them into smaller parts is necessary imo. That way they'll have less bargaining power and we would avoid too big too fail situations. Stamping out their involment with politics would be also high on the list of fixes - goldman sachs execs getting important governemnt positions seems like shady situation.

>liberals didn't love Steve Jobs
>liberals don't love Mark Zuckerburg
C'mon now.

Rich guy(s) own big bank
Big banks loan money to smaller banks
Farmer gets loan from small bank
Farmer hires help
You are the help

Short of putting this in crayon, I don't know how to make it any fucking simpler for you. That is trickle down.

Are you genuinely retarded? I could go a sell an object directly to a consumer that I created, retaining the full value of my labor. The middleman that pays me and then the sells to the costumer, is a leech and needs to erradicated, hopefully technology will help us in doing so.

>But guess what, you get less apples than for what you worked for, a little percentage less, because the faggot who "owns" the farm haves to take his cut. If you defend that you're a bootlicker faggot.
ah yes, the claim of surplus "theft"
never proven and inconsistently applied, bootlicker faggot indeed

Their goal is indeed to eliminate the middle and upper-middle class entirely, as they represent the biggest threat to the ultra wealthy who are trying to consolidate power.

That's not to say that many of this remaining class are still under the delusion that they are somehow part of the ultra wealthy, but they are not, and many of them are figuring it out - as are we.

We need to stop taxing the shit out of everything, and actually enforce our existing anti-corruption, anti money laundering, anti tax evasion, etc. laws on the ultra wealthy and their agents.

You selling directly to the consumer makes YOU the businessman you assclown.

Jesus christ what the fuck are they teaching you kids in school these days?

Yeah because Sup Forums loves Mark Fuckerkike and George "Satan" Soros so much.

"Right wingers" are more than just neocon golems and libertardians you know.

>I could go a sell an object directly
yes, and you would be competing with others who have division of labor for that product in their business model
if they can do it cheaper, you lose

>inconsistently applied
What?

The feudal overlord that takes a cut of the peasents production because he claims to "own" the land and because he fucking cans, is not a thief?

No dummy, we're talking about the government TAX breaks of trickle down economics.

What you're describing is basic business (the way it's been since day one).

Trickle down economics refers to massive tax cuts for the top few % of wealthy people. The theory is that by giving them more money, the the benefits will "trickle down" to the poor people.

Holy fucking shit, how the fuck do you not know this?

Tax cuts, or tax hikes will both benefit the rich regardless. You can't punish people who are rich, they're RICH. So maybe we should try cutting taxes so we can, you know, all get rich one day?

>tfw calling you out on your bullshit fallacy every single day, day in and day out.

Because the more money the "rich guy" has, the more he has to spend on shit - whether it be expanding his business or buying fucking lambos, an end consumer is going to benefit somewhere along the line. How the fuck do YOU not know this?

>Trickle down economics

"Trickle-down economics, or “trickle-down theory,” argues for income and capital gains tax breaks or other financial benefits to large businesses, investors and entrepreneurs in order to stimulate economic growth."

investopedia.com/terms/t/trickledowntheory.asp

Christ bro, at least get off your training wheels before you come to Sup Forums

No, the business man is not working his factory himself. He just recieves the dividends in the mail, the share of the production of his workers he legally stole of course.

Ethical =/= Efficient

In reality, stealing to workers in the actual division of labor IS effective, but not ethical and its totally normal to be against it.

>Because the more money the "rich guy" has, the more he has to spend on shit - whether it be expanding his business or buying fucking lambos, an end consumer is going to benefit somewhere along the line.

So you admit that you were totally wrong on what you thought "trickle down economics" is. You had no idea that it was about tax breaks.

And no, trickle down economics doesn't work for that reason. The business owners end up just pocketing the cash. That's why the Bush tax cuts were such a fucking failure and they didn't create any job growth.

>feudal overlord
what? say "I quit" to a feudal overlord and you would be flogged
nice attempt at an emotional appeal

Check my trips motherfucker. About the ONLY way nobody benefits from the rich asshole having more money to throw around is if he literally stuffs his mattress with cash and sits on it.

If he's spending it, he's benefiting the economy.

>investopedia
oh wow clearly an authority on things

trickle down is not a real thing. I argue to tax the rich less purely because i don't like the idea of the state taking nearly 50% of someones income, no matter how much they earn, i don't really argue for the economic benefits. Now less corporate taxation is completely different, lower corporate taxation is required to help maintain international competitiveness and to help attract capital investment.

>quitting just to starve

Yeah dude, its totally a fair deal, how idiots were the peasants, they could just have quitted!

Are you actually this fucking stupid. TAX BREAKS by their very definition PUT MORE MONEY IN HIS POCKET.

Holy FUCK dude. You have to be one of the dumbest motherfuckers I've come across on Sup Forums. I bet you can't even balance a fucking checkbook.

>Ethical =/= Efficient
>In reality, stealing to workers
still havent proved surplus theft to exist

>Check my trips motherfucker.

I don't give a shit about your internet numbers game, you underage.

>About the ONLY way nobody benefits from the rich asshole having more money to throw around is if he literally stuffs his mattress with cash and sits on it.
They move it offshore you fucking dummy.

>If he's spending it, he's benefiting the economy.
He doesn't give a shit about the economy, he's protecting his own interests.

As we see here the newfag communist shows its ugly head. I hope that you gentlemen will tell him to go back to hell.

Yes, almost everyone on the new right is suspicious on multinationals, it's one of the defining features of the movement. Marxism is obviously not the solution but free reign globalism has not produced enough net benefits to be declared even close to a success.

Governments can never be subservient to corporations in a just, virtuous, and successfully developing society.

>AX BREAKS by their very definition PUT MORE MONEY IN HIS POCKET.

Yeah, they put more money in the rich people's pocket. They then move that money into offshore investments.

What the fuck are you talking about? You might be one of the last people on earth who think trickle down economics is a good idea (which is weird because you didn't know what it was until I literally told you).

If you define "trickle down economics" economics as reducing taxes, that is/was not one of the major causes of the skyrocketing income inequality, and the decline of the American economy (for the people).

Other factors such as how these trade deals essentially incentivized outsourcing jobs, lax financial regulations/enforcement, simple criminal actions (mortgage fraud), the insane focus on short term investments and earnings-per-share to the detriment of everything else, allowing stock buybacks again, central bank policies, etc. etc. on and on.

The ultra wealthy are getting better at extracting every last dollar out of everyone. Do you really think a changing the top marginal income tax rate or increasing capital gains tax will stop them?

I've said it before and I'll say it again but America really needs to just ban corporate lobbying in congress outright. It wont fix EVERYTHING. But it'll definitely address the issue of multinationals having a huge amount of sway in what the government does. You gotta nip this problem in the bud, raising taxes wont really do much to harm them.

>reading comprehension
I just explained why its not feudalism and you are so bad at argument you just pretend your emotional appeal did anything and then tack on another that attacks a strawman statement I never made

>They move it offshore you fucking dummy.

Yeah you're right... every rich person in the USA moves ALL their money offshore and sits in their mansion with zero liquidity.

*facepalm*