Sup Forums ideals:

Sup Forums ideals:
>no taxes
>strong government should push ethnonationalism
>capitalism is good
>((them)) are bad
This echochamber is fucking retarded and filled with low intellect me me me-attitude bubble boys with self-contradictory views.

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agreed OP

Why wont you realize that porky is the jew

Wow
It's like, there's like
Different opinions or something.
Who woulda thunk

>Sup Forums is one person

Hallo. Is this the German thread?

White people working in banking are just as globalist as the jew ones.

*globalistic

Agreed but jews are vastly over represented in that field. Cant we just come together for once and agree on NAZIBOL as our ideology isntead of muh bash fash muh bash gommies shit

>There are different, contradicting opinions
>Echo chamber

Just because leftist ideas cannot handle uncensored debate does not mean this is an echo chamber.

Wow, who woulda thinked.

Not an argument.

(((Sup Forums)))

Hallo? Am I censored? ^^

>capitalism is good
>Sup Forums ideal
Not fooling anyone with this bait you dirty heeb.

Spamming "not an argument" or "fucking commie" is not debating. Me me MEME.

Half of the board is Libertarians, idiot. We're not an echo chamber, we argue all the time in earnest.

The only people who aren't interested in actual discussion are people like you. You come here just to make baseless claims and post your lame memes.

You know I'm actually sort of sympathetic to Bakunin. You know what I'm never going to talk about here? Bakuninian Anarchy. Becuase /leftypol/ has convinced me that NONE of you intend to argue in good faith. You come here expressly and exclusively to shitpost.

You aren't interested in debate, or converasation. You've completely betrayed your own dialectic. You're just a shitposter, so that's what you've become. /leftypol/ is the Canada of chan culture, you don't bring anything to the table except a reminder that we hate you.

>no taxes
>strong government
Who will pay?
you filthy teens cant even manage a society

How do I block Finnish posters?

Spamming not an argument is all you deserve when all leftards write is about their feelings.

That's what you do too. Are your feelings an argument? I say welfare you say swimming pools.

I'm not from /leftypol/.

Where the fuck are you from then?

>No u

For example, you posted how pol has contradicting opinions yet somehow it is an echo chamber.

Are you going to address how fucking retarded that statement is, apoligize, clarify? No, because you posted with your vagina, you felt that your ideas weren't welcome here so instead of rationalizing it you went and started calling pol random names to make you feel better.

Now make an argument or make me a sandwich.

You act like it. The Porky meme is a /leftypol/ meme--you can tell because it's the Happy Merchant except less accurate and less funny. If you're just a regular shitposter, then you're just as bad. Worse actually for dragging an already beaten dog's name through the mud.

Just fuck off. You are the sort of person who radicalizes the board because we can't have any sort of discussion without the suspicion of it being a shitpost. It's sickening and tiresome and it limits the dialogue. When a community FEELS that it is under attack it doubles down on its rhetoric and refuses to engage.

>REEEEEEEEEEE I DONT GET WHY
Sup Forums IS ETHNO REEEEEEEEEEEEE
you sound like a baby who has lost it's pacifier faggot

Did you just admit your ideology is so weak it needs a safe space?

That statement is not retarded. Loud self-contradictory statements echo in the same self-contradictory manner. I don't have a vagina. Only a large penis. Where's your argument.

No were just tired of faggots from reddit false flagging as leftypol causing both sides to refuse to engage in proper discussion it's just shitpost after shitpost and its fucking annoying. Some people actually like challenging and oppsing viewpoints to debate without shit flinging retards like op

Best post

> Libertarians

You can't be anti government and a nationalist at the same time

Back to /leftypol/, tranny.

why not?

Because that faggot says so, duh.

R A R E
Oh, that's fair.

because nationalism is love of ones government

This. At least not an ancap which most "libertatians" here are.

t. Brazil

Keep your fantasies to yourself.

Yeah no.

>This echochamber
Were you not so delusional and sheltered, had you not your echo chamber of trannies that validate all your retardness, you would see as clear as water that your ideology is delusional to the core. It wouldn't take more than 10 min of reflection.

Do you honestly think that you, a sub 20yo faggot with no prestigious education, can come up with a system better than what the previous 10 billion humans beings that were alive could? Do you honestly think you can defend such shitty ideology when not even college professors are capable of standing their ground without getting buttblasted? When socialism, an ideology of economical advocacy, cannot survive inside the economic academia at all?

You must be going through some insane narcissistic trip. How much you overestimate your intelligence can't even be described in words. All commies have a dozen mental health problems.

*libertarians

I love how lefty/pol/ can't achieve anything at all besides being laughed off cripplechan so bad the mods tell them to suck a fat one.
Then they come here waving dicks around like they're hot shit.

Yeah go back to /leftypol/

Sage

Wrong.
>no income or corporate taxes, but yes capital gains taxes, vice taxes and tariffs on foreign manufactured goods
>strong government should push ethnonationalism
>all (((internationalist economics bad)))
>nationalist economics good
>(((them))) are inherently subversive nation-wrecking parasites who sustain themselves through usury and other non-productive acquisitions of wealth

Reminder to the finnish tranny:
>Communism is economical nonsense: youtu.be/CmOUDMAtRt4?t=4m50s
>Communism is such a trainwreck that communists were never even capable of explaining it
>Karl Marx, the biggest name in communist economic theory, essentially never explained communism, not even in it's most basic traits
Your ideology is nothing more than a gigantic delusion.

What's with your obsession with trannies? I don't know a single one.

>call Sup Forums an echo chamber for not being communist
>can't explain how do you know whether a good is worth its costs in a communist society
>can't explain how can someone vote on the costs other people are willing to incur
>ignore the video I posted
>ignore the image I posted
>ignore the arguments I made
What a big surprise, you are just some delusional 19yo little cuck.
You can't even back up the confidence you show in your original post.

I'm not a communist you fucking monkey.

>whether a good is worth its costs in a communist society
Isn't that a liberal capitalist obsession, to put price tags and numerical values on everything? Isn't it more important to have something that works, takes mild abuse, and lasts? When the movement of money and goods for its own sake isn't the priority, I would suppose matters of fitness take precedence over matters of efficiency.

Can you tell me what you are instead of shrouding yourself then? What are you, a glorious market socialist? Or maybe an anarcho socialist, or a syndicalist? what autistic label are you using right now? Because I'm sure as heck you gotta have one after posting the "porky" pic.

Let's not hide ourselves in echo chambers, shall we? Seems like you agree with that don't you? Tell me what you believe in so I can destroy you already.

What you wrote is just vague sophistry.
>the movement of money and goods for its own sake isn't the priority
Except its always the priority in an economy, and the less it functions, the more fucked up people get.
The idea of a poor society that functions well out of nationalism and traditionalism is a lie. North Korea outside the capital is filled with government enterprises growing opioid and drugs to earn some profit, filled with areas in extreme poverty where people defecate and wash their clothes on rivers. Traditionalism is not a cheat code to get prosperity out of poverty.

A social democrat. What is your not-so-autistic label?

>Except its always the priority in an economy, and the less it functions, the more fucked up people get.
Have you never made anything for yourself? Have you been sitting in front of screens for so long that you think items appear ex nihilo at the store? Forced market participation is a neoliberal concept.
I should have been more clear and specified the maximization of the movement etc. There's no reason to cuck ourselves to the market here unless we're taking up liberalism.
>North Korea
is under all sorts of trade embargos by people who don't want to buy or sell with them at all unless they assume the religion of the market and allow foreign (absentee) ownership. Ditto Syria, Libya (under Muammar), and the entire "axis of evil" as the bankers preferred it were called. You have to acknowledge your own participation in their misfortune before you can judge them fairly.
I believe you have committed the fallacy of reduction to absurdity. The market absolutely needs to serve all the people, or it needs to be reengineered by whatever means necessary so that it does. The market is no judge of men.

>implying I'm not a fascist

get out Marxcucks

I'm a libertarian. Also, don't think I don't know you changed your beliefs right now to not look idiotic. I know you made at least 10 commie general threads.

And yeah
>social democrat

>private banking is oppressive,
>we need a government bank carrying 100 times the bulk of any private bank

>people being forced to pay for health care is oppressive
>people should be forced to pay for health care every month and if they don't they should be considered enemies of the state and jailed

You faggots advocate for government intervention and cash injections and then bitch about inequality. Who is making private banks bigger and private investments of large corporations to have almost a guaranteed return? The central bank, or consumers buying only the things they feel it's worth it?

I have never made a commie general. You're flat out wrong.

>Have you never made anything for yourself?
That includes as part of the economy. You do not realize how difficult and time consuming making things from scratch is. Without mentioning things that would be downright impossible for a single person to make and that are crucial to your well being. It's easier for a person to work 4 hours at a specific job and then buy something, then to work 10 hours making something.

I think what's more likely its the other way around, you never thought about things are made yourself, and you believe you totally could do it easily. You can't. In a good economy you can buy an anti-candida antibiotic for a cheap price, and not only its a good antibiotic, but also they add flavor so its not a pain to take it; you alone wouldn't be able to even being making a biologic method of cultivating a substance, or a chemical method of synthesizing it, let alone have such the spare time and resources to make it a good flavor.

>>North Korea
>is under all sorts of trade embargos by people who don't want to buy or sell with them at all unless they assume the religion of the market and allow foreign (absentee) ownership.
Why don't they just "make things for themselves"? How come not being part of a market now is such a torture to them? Seems like you had to do a complete 180ยบ here.

>Forced market participation is a neoliberal concept
There's no forced market participation you cuck. You buy stuff and you sell your labor because that's the way of creating the largest amount of wealth to yourself. Not because people are forcing you to. You are actually free to utilize less efficient methods whenever you want, only that would just be masochism.

>That includes as part of the economy
No, it doesn't. That's alienated labor. Come on, have you never even painted a figurine? Combined any two components to create a new thing? Rigged a quick fix for a leaky pipe or a slamming door? Not all labor is market labor, nor should it be.
Frankly, I think you're projecting. I've been involved in many aspects of fabrication. You seem to be hostile to the idea that someone shouldn't participate in the market, as if they were obligated to impress you with their efficiency.
Once again, you are resorting to the excluded middle fallacy. The point I'm trying to make, and one that you would halfway understand if you had read a little Marx, is that the market economy is not the only one. There is the social economy, the household economy... are you going to pay someone to love those children Sup Forumsacks are so obsessed with creating?
>creating the largest amount of wealth
Again with the maximization obsession. Do you think you're playing Civilization or something?

>No, it doesn't. That's alienated labor.
Not to you. You can work a week making a table and chairs, or you could work three days and buy tables and chairs that would be even better than the ones made by you. To you, this is part of the economy, this is an economic decision, and making a bad decision ignoring what the market can supply to you would be just self flagellation.

>>creating the largest amount of wealth
>Again with the maximization obsession. Do you think you're playing Civilization or something?
Stop appealing to such a retarded sophistry. Why don't you quit your job for a job that is twice as hard and pays half the price? Why are you so obsessed with maximizing your well being?

>capitalism is good
>pol's logo is a swastika, the symbol of national socialism
Capitalism's good up until it starts negatively effecting the people, its only goal is money which is bad.

>leftypol fails in one pic
sage

Alienated labor is that which the worker does not direct or control, producing goods or services over which the worker has no direction or control and does not own. Receiving wages and procuring substitute products is not a substitute for directing the process of production oneself.
>would be even better
is a value judgment which you are not in any way qualified to make for others. You are, yet again, appealing to an absurd counterfactual straw man in order that you can have an argument you can win.
>Why don't you quit your job for a job that is twice as hard and pays half the price
Why should I, just so you can win your straw-man argument? Among reasons I might consider it are that the other job involves less commute time, entails work I enjoy more, is more aligned with my sense of duty to society, or provides some other subjective satisfaction.
This isn't sophistry. This is, apparently, an entire realm of human existence that you cannot experience or understand. You project your incompetence at production and your incapacity for human satisfaction onto me, as if I am obliged to follow suit, in order that you can feel good about yourself.
Have you stopped to consider just how little you'll be missed on the day of the rope?

>Why should I, just so you can win your straw-man argument?
It wasn't a strawman argument you dunce. You are clearly saying how efficiently caring for your well being is a crazy obsession.

>You project your incompetence at production and your incapacity for human satisfaction onto me, as if I am obliged to follow suit, in order that you can feel good about yourself.
No, you fucking idiot, I assume that you are not a deity capable of materializing everything you need, I assume you probably cannot do that labor of more than 10 out of the thousands of specialized professions that it takes to allow the most simple of households.

>Have you stopped to consider just how little you'll be missed on the day of the rope?
Can't make a reasonable argument? Spout some autistic NatSoc death threat. That'll work.

Remember how you don't quite need to be part of a big market to be prosperous and how North Korea is bad because it's not part of a big market? Or how people shouldn't have an obsession with maximizing material wealth yet, you'll never ever voluntarily take a pay cut for no reason?

In one hand capitalism is evil and global free trade is just exploitation, on the other hand, a foreign jewish group of businessmen decided to not do global free trade with me? Traitors!

NatSocs are dangerously autistic and self centered.

I am saying that there is a point called ENOUGH, and that your insistence on everything for sale or nothing for sale is neither useful nor healthy.
>NatSocs
Sorry, senpai, you're actually arguing with an ansoc. Go RP on EVE Online or something where you'll fit in better.

Watch me, stupid nigger.

How do we have a strong government with no taxes?

>ansoc
My sides.
Have you tried watching 10 min of a video that explains why you are delusional? : Have you tried to imagine what a socialist economy should look like?
Commie faggots are hilariously delusional. Now it's explained why you were incapable of understanding how idiotic your previous posts and arguments were.

>anarcho socialist
>telling people to go roleplay as an insult
This is what actual projection looks like, you autistic faggot.