Hey my U.K dudes, where you at?

Hey my U.K dudes, where you at?

Just wanna ask who you're voting for this election, and why? I know this is Sup Forums and we don't really get a 'civil' discussion, but hey, at least in this thread, try to hold off on memeing or shitposting, pretty please with cute feminine females (males) on top?

I'm personally voting Corbyn because, I truly believe the man bodes well for the country. He aint a lair unlike May. His Manifesto adds up. There's always borrowing of money, but Labour has always paid back more money than the Tories have when they borrow. Corbyn aint rich, he's honest, and I think that's why the Tories are so scared of him. They cannot dig up anything on the guy, other than that story of him riding a pogo stick as a kid and accidently squashing some girls pet rabbit, it's like 'Wow, you are desperate, ey?'

Anyway. No memes, please. Give me your honest opinions and explain them if you will. I aint wanting to argue, just want to hear what you wanna say.

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>Corbynfag

Vote UKIP

How about you fuck off back to whatever socialism subreddit you crawled out of?

I'll write "Cunt" on the ballot to best express how represented I am by the choices this election.

I'm voting Corbyn because I'm a dirty leftie who wants to be cucked by lizard Jews, or whatever the fuck Sup Forums thinks causes people to have empathy.

No thankyou.

Imma stick around Sup Forums actually, been here awhile now going on 7 years, aint gonna go any time soon.

Try discussing with me instead of memeing, eh?

Well don't you think the jews hate him too? He's threatening their precious money, goy.

Explain to me how you feel the "manifesto adds up"

>don't you think the jews hate him too?

I dunno, he looks kinda Jew-y. Might be undercover.

Wtf is this gay shit

Alright.

For one, I sat down and did some research into average bills on our households for gas, electric, council tax, all that jazz, right? I looked up figures on how many household there are in the U.K. Now annoyingly I've gone and lost my bloody bit of paper that had all this written down, but it came to roughly 100 - 120 million or so, my maths isn't amazing, I'll admit.

Now, that's a lot of money. That should be going into the Government and get recycled back into the Economy and help to fund thinks such as a little extra into the NHS or whatever. From what I understand, (which might not be much), it's mainly getting siphoned off into investments and private accounts by everyone that has a piece of that pie, and I believe it.

The Manifesto sadly lacks any numbers on costs, but when I say it 'adds up' I mean it 'looks good on paper', of course as with most things, it always looks good on paper, but have you read it yourself? It does look very promising and actually attainable. Most of the goals are set for the mid 2020's to 30's. Nothing is said 'Hey this'll be done next year!!' ya know?

Maybe so, I'll be wary, just for you, mate.

I'm voting for Mayhem. She is objectively the least worst choice for the country

>Corbyn will just be borrowing to make social payments, not investment.
It's literally a disaster waiting to happen. There are good reasons to borrow, but doing so simply to make more payments in social welfare and to fund pet projects like nationalisation that won't benefit the economy is the path to Venezuela in 10, 20 years when the country can't service the debt payments because our state is too big for our tax base.

What newspaper should I read lads?

I don't know if you are serious or just retarded
really makes you think

The most blatant shill thread i've ever seen, fuck off you redditcuck

Really mate? I don't know. She idolises Thatcher, and Thatcher fucked things up with privatisation and selling off our industry. What's to stop May from doing the same with what little we have left? I feel if she gets into power we'll be a mini-China or North Korea waiting to happen with all the lockdowns on internet and such she is proposing.

As for Corbyn, if he borrows money to un-privatise the railways like he's planning to do, that's a few billion back into the system to pay back the debt and fund ourselves properly.

None, they're all biased. Form your own opinion based on research on all parties.

Both.

Not a shill, mate. I just really believe in Corbyn, as I am disabled (mostly blind, I have a speech device to call out my words as I type them, and I have mobility issues), and he wants to help me and others in my position. May wouldn't want to help me. The Tories have never liked the disabled and poor. And I'm both.

>She idolises Thatcher, and Thatcher fucked things up with privatisation and selling off our industry
She's no Thatcher lad, would that she were though. She is decidely more economically left and socially conservative than I'd like, but there is literally no bottom-right party in this election.

Btw, if you nationalise the railways, you have to pay to do so. This isn't China where the government can simply appropriate. And if he does nationalise it, he ought to be running it at cost for the benefit of commuters, rather than as another tax on working people.

>corbyn will open doors to immigrants if elected
Fuck off clown.

Sage
Fuck off, dickhead

Piss off you nigger loving socialist

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Oh aye that's what I mean, he's going to be borrowing to spend on nationalising the rails.

It being a tax on the people is good, because it's just like our NHS. We get taxed slightly, and it's essentially everyone paying for everyone to get it, essentially, for free, so there's no ridiculous £12 single fee or £24 return to go on a 2 hour commute.

Don't be rude. Debate with me, please, I encourage it.

Is Corbyn going to limit immigration?
I'm an environment-fag and I don't want more people shitting up my beautiful countryside.

Fuck off cuck Vote UKIP or join National Action take your pick..

Spoilers: Nobody is going to limit immigration. The Tories have been saying they will since 2010, with no tangible results.

Problem is exactly that, it looks good on paper and people are afraid that in practice, it won't work and bankrupt the country. When people look at the manifesto they think he wants to try communism again, and that makes them run to Ms. May the witch. They're also afraid he'll cuck in front of the EU in the brexit negotiations and give in to all their demands, which will hurt the country. Then we also have Corbyn's terrorist sympathizing track record, the endorsement of the commies and his Marxist ministers.

Hasn't been too specific about it apparently because he doesn't want to announce a number which will be unachievable. He probably doesn't want to announce he's against immigration as he more than likely plans to use it in brexit negotiations.

Unfortunately no matter which side you look at most local MP's are for building more houses in the countryside to somehow make 'affordable housing', if 300,000+ is considered 'affordable' to most people.

THIS

+our economy and public services need immigration, that won't change overnight but can in the long run

my mummy

mummy may pure love

To my knowledge he is pro-immigration, so I guess you'll be voting Conservative or UKIP.

Please vote UKIP instead of Conservative if you will, I'd rather have a bunch of racist facists in power than the Tories again.

But what said. No one will limit it, Tories have failed again and again on that 'promise'.

Thing is, the main plan is to get the railways back in government power. They do that, they have about 23 billion extra to play with at a constant rate, that alone would help nearly everything.

Thing is, you can't ever know, but Jeremy is so much more hopeful than May. May crumbles when questioned on costing and how they've failed on past promises. I'd rather have an optimist in power that delivers on half their promises than a unsure old woman that doesn't deliver any, you know?

'Hasn't been too specific about it apparently because he doesn't want to announce a number which will be unachievable' Which I think is fair. There's no need to makeup numbers.

Mate, this aint a meme thread, I'm trying for actual discussion. Mummy may can be kept in /Britpol/, aye?

No, he wants to "reunite families", and we all know that means letting every brown fucker in existence in.

He will also, most likely, drag his feet with Brexit, offer a second referendum, or pay whatever bullshit amount the EU wants us to pay to leave, but will still agree to free movement.

He wants to put MORE money into the NHS, instead of making them more accountable for what they're spending the money on.

More police, nationalisation of railways and minimum wage to £10? Great, higher taxes whilst businesses cut back on staff. Brill.

Christ, the Labour shills have really been out in force for the past few months.

Also, unless you live in Islington North, you can't vote for Corbyn.

What's this belief of higher taxes?

The minimum wage hasn't properly risen for years, so if it does, it'll be fine.

Not a shill, just someone that really believes in Corybns vision.

>People must be paid to disagree with me, because I am obviously right.

Who foots the bill for the increase in pay? Businesses. Are these businesses going to let that eat in to their profits? No. Therefore they increase the cost of their products/services or reduce staff numbers.

How is Corbyn going to pay for this capital injection to the NHS and the police? He's already said they're not scrapping Trident.

>which mask on the same face will you be picking to fuck you this time?

Fuck the lot of them. Until a real leader shows himself and drives out all the degenerates, voting is just a wankfest.

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They will though, because Corbyn is going to tax them out the arse so they don't make a massive profit that isn't put back into the company, so if it goes back into the company, there'll be no need for tax increases.

He'll pay for the NHS and police, as I've said, be re-nationalising the railways. 23 billion they make at a constant rate. That's a lot of money that could be going into the Goverment spending.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, friend.

Ah yes, the 'China' approach.

Also, Corbyn is a fucking cowardly hippy cunt with no clue how the world works. He wants us to give in to terrorists and do what they say. He wants to give more money to poor people for doing fuck all. He thinks the reason students can't get on the property ladder is student debt (something no student has to ever worry about paying off), not the constant removal of council houses to build overpriced private housing. He thinks the EU is a good thing. He thinks there isn't a problem with unskilled migrants flooding this country. He thinks the way to fix everything is to act like a cuck.

There's a reason even other labour politicians think he's a cock-end.

I'm voting Labour to ensure a small majority / hung parliament so that the conservative can’t enact the dementia tax.

It fucks me off to vote labour but i don't have any other choice.

'He wants us to give in to terrorists and do what they say'

Sorry, is giving in to terrorists the same as attempting to make peace so they stop being cunts?

'He thinks there isn't a problem with unskilled migrants flooding this country'

But he does. You have to pass a certain check thesedays to get in. That's only going to increase. At the very least they have to speak good English and have qualifications.

'There's a reason even other labour politicians think he's a cock-end'

Yes, because he threatens their private houses and free money they take from we, the people. They don't want to lose their special benefits.

The Tories tax on old people is pretty fucking scummy, aye.

Dank untruths pal.

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>He'll pay for the NHS and police, as I've said, be re-nationalising the railways
Jfc no that's not how this works

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>voting Corbyn

You live in Islington North?

>voting for a socialist
absolute scum

Voting Corbyn.

It's fucking obvious.

May is absolutely useless, Tories haven't delivered after 7 years, their time is up.

Vote Tory or everything we fought for in the EU referendum will be fucked. With the Tories, Brexiteer DAVID DAVIS would be negotiating our exit and getting what his vision is. He's based. Labour's guy is Keir Starmer who was a staunch Remainer and 'refugees welcome' figure.

I'm afraid, without trying to insult you, either you're a shill and trying to bait, or you've fallen for the silly Corbyn meme. That is to say, you've fallen for the notion that he is 'honest' and 'principled'. The man who has been a radical all his life and now lies about everything he's done and distances himself from it is no honest man. He says "I was just looking for peace talks with Hamas leave me alone" but he simply wasn't - he was sympathising with them. He said they shouldn't have been labelled a terrorist organisation and said they fought for social justice. Lmao. He's both clueless and dangerous.

Also you've fallen for the notion that the Labour manifesto is costed, which it isn't. There are gaping holes and it doesn't account for hits to the GDP the country will take.

Fun fact: corporation tax, which they want to increase 9%, brings in more revenue when it's lower.

Fun fact #2: Emmanuel Macron is president of France and set to get a majority in parliament, meaning he will be able to pass his liberal reforms. He came to Downing St and blatantly said that he wanted British firms to move to Paris. France has a long way to go before it becomes appealing like that, but alongside Brexit and Corbyn, it wouldn't take much for Macron to make his country more enticing to businesses.

And before you say "but businesses would never leave London": that may be the case. Businesses likely wouldn't just outright leave. However, they could do it out the back door by moving jobs around.

Now I'm not going to sit and claim May is perfect, or even passable. She's autistic and unprincipled. But, as a package, what you get with a Tory government is far better than that of a Labour government.

Fuck off u fucking subhuman socialist

>Sorry, is giving in to terrorists the same as attempting to make peace so they stop being cunts?

Yes. Doing what they want because they blow shit up is giving in to them.

>But he does. You have to pass a certain check thesedays to get in. That's only going to increase. At the very least they have to speak good English and have qualifications.

Not even close to being true. EU free movement isn't going for at least another 4 or 5 years.

>Yes, because he threatens their private houses and free money they take from we, the people. They don't want to lose their special benefits.

Except he doesn't. He threatens businesses, which will only abandon the UK and move to more desirable nations. He has no clue how economy works, he just thinks "let's take from the rich and give to the poor". This ain't a fucking Sherwood play.

Corbyn.
He's honest even when it makes him look like a dick.
He doesn't suck off the rich constantly.
The powers that be hate him(look at UK newspapers, constantly running propaganda against him), and fear him.
He is not my ideal choice, but May is a conniving, lying, smug, cunt who will only look after the friends of her party. She doesn't give a shit about the country.

>It's fucking obvious.

That you're a deluded cuck.

>He's honest even when it makes him look like a dick.

Looks like you didn't see the lovely interview of him squirming over questions about Trident and how he used to suck off IRA terrorists.

>Now, that's alot of money. That should be going into the Government
No it shouldn't, there's your problem right there.

NA got shut down

>He's honest even when it makes him look like a dick

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Oh my god he fell for it, jesus fucking christ. You do realise that populists like Corbyn intentionally target stupid people? And you fell for his 'honesty' schtick which makes you....? you can fill in the gap mate

>Now, that's a lot of money. That should be going into the Government
i think we found the disconnect folks

I did and I don't care, besides the awkwardness is mostly down to him trying to phrase his unpopular truths in a way that can't be used as ammo against him. Which is impossible.

It reminds me a bit of Trump at this point, at first he couldn't win, then oh shit he might win, followed by him winning, all the while being hysterically attacked by the press. In America the lefties had the press, out here it's the opposite. I think it's actually helping him. He's the one candidate who doesn't act like a slick pro, and people like it.

I'm voting for him, for the NHS, and because of all the parties, his will do it's best to look after all the people of the uk.

>(Corbyn) thinks the EU is a good thing.

I seen this said a few times in this thread. It's demonstrably untrue. Corbyn has repeatedly criticised the EU, had he any enthusiasm for the EU he would have done something to support a remain vote. At best he was on the fence, if not actually in favour of leave, but just didn't want to upset the PLP any more, and didn't want to ally with the Leave crowd made up of BoJo, Gove and UKIP.

And May squirmed over not believing in Brexit, backtracking on key policies and immigration figures.

Paul Nuttall - let's be honest - makes himself look like a deluded cunt every time he opens his mouth.

All politicians are manipulative, and until the fundamental way we receive political information (i.e. through TV and news outlets with a heavily scripted narrative) changes, that won't change either.

I may be deluded but my gf is faithful.

Added to which he whipped his MPs through triggering Article 50 and has ruled out a second referendum saying we've got to stick with the result. The guy is clearly satisfied with the result even though he knows it's problematic.

>Mummy May is so much better.
Mummy May is the kind of parent that makes her kids sick to get shit.
Papa Corbyn is the bumbling grandad that gives out Werthers Originals to the happy grandkids
he cares about.

Prepare yourselves

My body is ready.

>Papa Corbyn is the bumbling grandad that gives out Werthers Originals to the happy grandkids he cares about.

And those turn out to be shit loads of foreigners and enemies of the state.

t. LIDF

>They will though, because Corbyn is going to tax them out the arse so they don't make a massive profit that isn't put back into the company
And then they potter off to Europe or Ireland because that's a retarded idea with brexit on the horizon

I don't give a shit about what May did. The bell-end I was quoting thinks Corbyn is somehow different.

Witnessed.

>Mummy May is so much better

Wow you pulled that out your ass didn't you? Because I didn't even mention May in my reply at all, nor did I imply she was better. Seems to me that you know he's got few redeeming factors and so have to constantly compare him to other people to try to deflect.

>my U.K dudes

Fresh off the boat from Reddit, aren't you?

The man is a naive ideologue, whose many members of his party are communist sympathizers. Recently, he's even sent his 'sympathies' to Stalinists/Marxists.

Personal actions [muh borrowing of money] are irrelevant when it comes to personal policy making. He intends to increase the corporate tax. He intends to screw over businesses with a 10pound minimum wage [where have we heard THAT before?]

He also intends to raise taxes even more on everyone.

He is a well meaning man, but he is retarded beyond belief.

May

>thinks Corbyn is somehow different.
And I still do cunty chops.

MMMMM thanks tory master for my sweetcorn turd nuggets.

UKIP has the best manifesto but 0% chance.

>He is a well meaning man, but he is retarded beyond belief.

You know what, this is exactly it. He THINKS he knows what's best, but he has no clue how anything actually works. "Let's just raise minimum wage!", "let's just get rid of nukes!", "let's just hold hands with terrorists!", "let's just take money off of rich people!", "let's just keep the poor comfy!", and so on, and so on.

He has the mind of a child that thinks the world would be a better place if we all just smiled more.

my question to anyone in this thread willing to give their opinion:
is there any possibility that corbyn can deliver what i want form brexit, i.e:
>fuck you ecj
>modest but much-needed controls on migration
>fuck you 'brexit bill': we pay only for what is necessary and suits us
??

Corbyn's not going to win. Left wing cucks are gonna be ass hurt for the third time in a row, I'll be revving up the screenshots of you cunts on twitter/facebook.

Yeah, because you're a naïve twat that sucks off shitskins.

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If you've tried to make this look like a non-shill thread you 'aint' succeeded reddit, saged.

Never even considered this. I won't be over the moon when the Tories win but the millenial asshurt on twitter will be wonderful.

You know what, without any memes or bias aside, he can't do it. None of them can do it. They'll all end up compromising somewhere along those lines. The only thing is Corbyn is the least likely to know which compromise to make for long-term benefits. He can't think ahead when he makes policies.

Corbyn will look at the facts, and take measures based on those.
Corbyn is well known for his dislike of the E.U. if anyone is going to give them a rude shock, it's him.
Bankers would vote tory.
Tories will look at what benefits their pals first of all. They are taking a pre election anti-eu stance to gain voters and nothing more.

Sounds like your fantasy not mine.
Shall we have an entirely unverifiable "when did you first visit Sup Forums regularly"-off? We could get tough on the internet too if you'd like?

Trust me, Theresa May is a god awful leader, and has fucked this campaign up pretty bad.

But if its a choice between letting in a guy who has a history of not being the biggest fan of Britain and his colleagues actually saying they 'dont feel British' then that would be a fucking mess if they were let anywhere near power.

>votes for Corbyn
>"I know you are but what am I?"

Classic infantile Jezuits. There really isn't much variation in you lot.

He's only anti British if you equate anything that critical of shitty things our country has done as being against it.

He thinks the Falklands war was a Tory plot for fucks sake

Wow, you sure are smart. I pointed out the pointlessness of such arguments on here by posting something very silly, and it flew over your head. That's very special.

>I pointed out the pointlessness...

Take whatever point you like and shove it up your immigrant loving arse, cunt.

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He didn't say that, he said Maggie took advantage of the situation, there were many mistakes made in the road to that war. She used it to get re-elected, that is almost established fact, she was very unpopular until that situation played out.

May won't keep the immigrants out either fuckface.
Ukip can't win.
Corbyn, even with his whacked out immigration stuff, will be so much better for the people of this country.

>Corbyn will look at the facts, and take measures based on those.
Corbyn is well known for his dislike of the E.U. if anyone is going to give them a rude shock, it's him

Meme response. He wasn't one to look at many facts before, I can't see why he would start doing that now.

Also, funny how you cucks mouth off about him suddenly being anti-EU but he threw his weight behind Remain, why? Because his party is predominately Remain. Funny that, I thought he was sincere and kept to his views?

Only when it suits him that is.

Nah, he's typical lefty protester scum.

Refuses to sing the National anthem
Constantly tries to deride the Falklands conflict and seems to be obsessed with wanting a power sharing deal.
History of supporting the IRA.
Buddies up with people that seem to have a hatred of Britain as well.

Reddit fresh. Jesus, you can't even quote properly.

>He didn't say that,
He kinda did though. He claimed it was "a Tory plot to keep their money-making friends in business." and whined that Maggie wasn't spending money on making children smile instead of defending british territory.
Just an FYI, you'll have more luck converting people on facebook and reddit, 90% of the people on this website who say they're voting labour are trolling people like you.