>If every single western politician is (((controlled))) in some direct or indirect way, what is the solution?
Civil war, but it will never happen. These kinds of problems have been around since before the invention of cuneiform writing.
>So what will happen? Sounds like you're implying there's no hope.
Essentially we actually need a cataclysmic scenario in order to start over. The apple is rotten to the core and needs to be thrown away.
>But people are waking up.
The (((Alt-right))) wants to "preserve western civilization". Think for a moment, what does that even mean? It means enlightenment values, aka exactly what the Jews want. What counts as "Western" these days to the average person has now turned into pretty much anything liberal, which has been the root cause of our downfall. Within reason sovereignty is nice, but with nothing but nihilistic individualism society cannot be maintained.
>So become authoritarian?
Even if you were to do away with everything "liberal" the current stock of human beings have been out-dysgenic'd. Modern medicine is to blame for there being so many people who don't deserve to live. See the 3rd world population boom and the decline in world average IQ. Most people in the West used to harden as they grow on their own, like anywhere else. Now without effort you can remain indefinitely infantile due to our decadence. The "Beta" phenomenon. There were always outliers that became like this throughout history, but now the general masses have succumbed to this condition. There is no longer a rite of passage into adulthood, you can be sheltered and live comfortably. This is de-evolution. Everyone has a dandy-ol time being a degenerate well into their 50s.
>I agree. You can especially see this in the cities where the worst of mankind is concentrated. Sometimes I think society just needs a reset.
Society does not need a reset, humankind needs a reset. A return to a type of hunter/gatherer/farmer society where if you were a greedy cunt you would be caste out of the tribe. Not to chuck away all our technology and such, but this is the type of social structure modern humans have lived in for 99% of its history. Cities are unnatural, unplanned and have brought more misery. A large portion of society can now just "live" and try to find trivial things to keep themselves busy with.
>So the Zeitgeist needs to be completely redefined? And the only solution is some sort of massive catastrophe?
Exactly, this is inevitable really. That's what I have been trying to explain to retards using "Blackpill" liberally. They have no broader perspective. "You're just trying to bring us down blackpill cuck!" When in fact I'm trying to explain the gravity of the situation.
>Has this happened before?
It's detailed quite nicely in the Sumerian Swindle book how Ubaidian traitors and merchants betrayed their tribe and started importing Sumerians to replace them slowly without any backlash. Even if you get rid of all the Jews or any similar group, you still have to get rid of the liberals, commies, kosher nationalists ect.
>But what about the economy?
There's more to life than just "the economy". Before interest came to be, before some greedy tribesman asked for more than he gave away, everyone had their fair share. Not because of a "gibs me dat" system, just because it was impossible for 99,999% of society to unfairly benefit, and if you didn't work at all (live like a welfare leech) you would die for not being able to provide for yourself. It's what commie pipe dreams are made of, except with actual work involved.
Luke Nguyen
>Then what happened?
Slowly but surely the tribes separated into two social classes, the Haves, and the Have-Nots. Obviously the haves dictated everything that happened, started foreclosing on farms and taking their tribesmen and families as slaves to pay off their debts which could not normally be paid. We briefly had a period where it seemed this dynamic would dissappear with the rise of the middle class, but since the 70s this class has effectively been culled in the west.
>So what’s then the ideal philosophy for society to follow if not an endless pursuit of prosperity?
Essentially we need to go back to Darwinian Eugenics, which in itself actually almost took off during the industrial revolution when it became clear to many we were spiraling downwards as a species. We have to do away with loans and financial manipulation, modern medicine that helps the genetically unfit and the imaginary concept of “human rights”. Many hardcore Natsocs and those that call themselves “redpilled” do not want to accept that modern civilization is what has led to our downfall.
>How do I prepare for the collapse?
If you’re in the west I encourage moving as far away as possible. Even remote regions in some 3rd world countries will be better off once the pot reaches boiling point funnily enough.
Brandon Watson
>This is all very morbid though. Don’t you feel any empathy for those that might perish? Don’t you want to save them?
Most normies base their opinions off 9gag memes. That’s why I say let it all burn in hell. I’m not sacrificing anything for such sickly people. It would just be arrogance at that point. Maybe some like Hitler thought there was a possibility because there was no internet, otherwise all hope ended there.
>This thought process makes me feel like a psychopath though.
Nah. The psychopaths are the ones who do not understand these simple concepts. I used to think everyone was a normie - when in fact, we were the normies all along. I cannot imagine living like the average western individual today. I used to laugh at the “wake up sheeple” crowd until I woke up. It was depressing for a time, but now its just funny really. I started digging into all these nationalist movements but found out they were all just another strain of the Jew virus. I can’t believe I fell for the Trump meme one time. I realized my mistake roughly 6 months before the election.
>I’ve come to realize all these political events, elections, movements ect have no true effect at all on where we’re going. Do you agree?
Yeah brother, here’s a good analogy; it’s like kabuki theater for the goyim.
But for those that have realized this and those that have been convinced; you are part of a small fringe that might outlast this event and can then ensure another chance for mankind as a whole, a chance for your descendants at the very least. For us to eventually reach the stars, we need to come to terms with this.
Stay strong, prepare, and good luck.
John Carter
The alt-right wants smaller less powerful government that uses its very limited power to protect the people who already live in those countries, rather than selling them out and tossing them under the bus of globalism and immigration, where immigration is nothing more than the political elite electing a new voter base that will keep them in power.
But sure...go on with that narrative of yours.
Anthony Clark
t. posting from an isolated Karoo farmstead
Dominic Lopez
the industrial revolution and the industrialized "modern world" that it created were a singular event in history with a clear start in the 19th century, a peak of wealth around 1960 and ever since an irreversable phase of decline (in terms of standard of living per capita).
Wealth creation is at its core mainly determined the "quality" of available energy and mineral resources. Unfortunately there is this natural phenomenon called "diminishing returns". Ever since we mined the first coal and started pumping the first oil, the Energy Returned on Energy Invested ratio of these resources has been decreasing. Likewise, the energy acuisation costs for minerals and essential resources like food have been going up and up as we deplete the cheap and easy stuff first. Oil is the MASTER resource, it's everything around you in the modern industrialized world. Without abundant and CHEAP (in money and energy-terms) oil we will economically degenerate back to a pre-industrial state.
The inflection point where we had rising standards of living is already long in the past. And no we wont have a renewable engery revolution since these energy technologies can't provide for their own energy costs AND run an industrial society. Unfortunately many people are blinded by an irrational faith in technology to see what's coming and don't even realize that technology is not a source of energy but just a way to convert energy-resoures into productive work. Once the high grade finite energy-resources are gone, we're only left with the sun and its derivative energy-types. And we will adapt accordingly.
I don't see what's the big deal. Happened to a lot of alien species, will happen to a lot of alien species, whether one passes the great Filter is up to the individuals, not the species since species will never be able to do it due to the laws of physics.
There is a difference between the alt-right and the alt-lite.
I don't know whats going to happen, it's become totally unpredictable.
Henry Anderson
Hoping for political movements is a pipe dream. It's either take up arms, form militia groups and do what must be done or we just hope something puts us out of our misery.
>Romanian user:
Why are you all such fucking cucks ITT>Cheer the fuck up you faggots as long as you are alive you can make a difference(probably not but meh).No matter how fucked up shit is in Europe the US or the whole world its the white mans job to fix. NO whore will do that job for you since they are shallow emotional creatures that cant think strait and need a man to guide them thorugh life.
Remeber you weakling faggots your ancestors survived the Ice age,build civilizations and great empires.Survived through their fall and through countless barbarians invazions.They beat back the Huns,they pushed back islam and waged war to ist hovels.They survived the mongol empire and 2 world wars and countless civil and foreign wars in between. Europans are the men of the north scarred warriors and no other species on thisplanet can outdo us at killing of any form.
Conlusion:Hitler was right as fuck,life is struggle and it only ends when you are dead.If you do not survive that means you do notdserve to be alive. If you give up withou fighting you might as well be dead so why prolong this unsightly dishonor to your ancestors just commit suddoku if you are not willing to face the pain and tragedy of being alive.
Dylan Wilson
>American user:
Without memeing, I think hastening the decline of it all would make for a better result in the end -- that we may storm our way out of this coming dystopia for the prosperity of our future generations. >withdraw all money you have in the banks, buy a decent safe to store cash in >completely withdraw from being a consumer of anything more than basic needs >satisfy all debts to avoid usury and interest profits for debt-generating super-corporations that inflate/bloat the economy >chop up ALL credit cards >move to a remote location, preferably with a family to start (or already started) >contribute to the local economy by trading goods/working for local businesses, even if it's for chump change -- all to feed your family
Following Varg's advice in one of his more recent videos: REVOLT against the modern world. The suggestions above are also advice from him, and I agree.
Gavin Watson
>finally starting to realize no one is buying into a retarded internet conspiracy theory made uop by a bunch of retarded teenagers who are motivated by nothing more than edgy contrarianism
Evan Morris
Realize that to live is to struggle. Really internalize this truth in your being and actions and when possible spread it to others that you care about.
In the end the Natural Order will always prevail. Nature is inherently fascist. The modern world is a world that goes completely against nature and the results are telling. It's tearing itself apart.
Nevertheless you as an individual can always chose to go against the flow and struggle and persevere while the rest of society rots and withers away. It's not an easy path, but you go on because you know that you are in the right and that in the end you will be vindicated.
Exactly because the modern world is so self-destructive half the battle is just weathering the storm until the whole edifice has degenerated so much that we can rise and deal the final blow.
Live to live your life correctly and that will bring happiness to yourself and those around you.
Joseph Cruz
>normie opinions mattering
Elijah Butler
The majority of the alt-right is nu/pol/.
Parker Thompson
The alt-right is civic nationalist and the figureheads are almost all kikes.
Jordan Gray
You mean alt-lite.
Tyler Bennett
Our nature is living like savages in caves and huts, then rutting indiscriminately with whoever presents herself for it and then dying quick death.
Benjamin Ortiz
What civilisation have ever "collapsed" tho? Like, normally it's war or famine or whatnot. It's not like civilisation ever collapsed because people were ok.
