People actually think this way

>people actually think this way.

Actually my perception of there being a difference is ethical, not moral. The objective vs the subjective. That fucker who wrote that is pretty dumb.

>clouded
Only a Jew would think that.

At first glance, that quote seems to be stating that coal miners (or at least the ones in poor countries or in the past) work really shitty and abusive jobs just like prostitutes do.

I don't really see something wrong with that.

>implying I'm going to listen to a guy named 'sprankle'
The coal miner sells his hard work, prostitutes just lay there and let strangers enjoy what God gave them

Actually, coal miners sell their labor.

Whores sell themselves.

He isn't wrong on one hand. For any job you sell your time and skills or your body if it's a hard labor job. It's just a retarded point trying to make coal miners falsely equivalent to a non-ethical job.

sell you body is a gentile term for sell your pussy. Obviously selling pussy is less noble than working for a living

Who cares what they're selling. The objective effect of what they're selling is the thing to not be distracted from. One is selling work, possibly skilled, possibly unskilled, to provide for society's benefit, in return gets paid for said work. The prostitute contributes nothing tangible or important, and can actually damage society by spreading stds, drug use, and unwanted children. All objectively unethical contributions to society because they are all negative impacts to a society's good function.

getting a nut off is pretty tangible and important

Those pesky morals always clouding our views!

>If you think mafia hitmen 'sell their killing skills' but slaughterhouse workers don't, your view of labour is clouded by your moralistic view of killing.

I have no desire to marry a whore nor a coal miner.
Argument is irrelevant.

Do it with a serious gf or wife. Outside of that, you know what you are you nigger.

Seeing a lot of cucks and leafs in this thread....

>PsyD
lol

I wonder if the kike author would mind his daughter or wife fucking strangers for money?

They're both selling their bodies.

But one is a contribution to society, even a nessecity.

The other adds no value to society, to the contrary. And is not a nessecity.

nobility is still a moralistic concept. The argument still stands.

>our perspective is clouded by morality

thanks for the compliment

(((Dr. Eric Sprankle)))

>Do it with a serious gf or wife.
>implying any girl wants to date a coal miner

He probably let's Jamal fuck his wife and pays him to do it.
Cuckolding is the 'intellectual fetish' after all goyim!

Most of them went up on smoke, what did you expect?

Jews consider manual labor to be prostitution, shocking concept for a people who have never broken a sweat in their lives

if you can lay on the floor and be treated as a tool you're selling your body
If the amount of result you yield is important to profits then you're selling your labor

I am implying that. You're pretty dumb.

now i know why the communists in asia killed all the (((Academics)))

Coal mining is now a dying field as other energy sources are both more profitable and more environmental. It has also been the poster child for the cause of improving worker's rights and universally seen as a shitty job.
On the other hand liberals now frequently encourage young women to start doing porn and becoming strippers as a valid career choice, and handwave away any sources that prove its negative effects as "sex-negative propaganda".

>Never broken a sweat in their lives

They will when they reach the ovens

by this metric, everyone is selling their bodies.

Since even people stocking shelves in grocery stores are blowing their knees out over time.
Even office employees are getting fat and developing bad posture etc.

The difference is, everyone else's job serves a purpose to society. Yes, even the guy stocking shelves.
Meanwhile prostitution does not provide anything that couldn't be better provided by marriage without feminist driven divorce laws.

Prostitutes are very selfish, lazy and vain people.

>sex is nothing important or special, you prudes
Then rape isn't a serious crime.

theyre only more profitable because of regulations.

>thinking in this strinctly materialistc way
kys atheist

>Vegans would meme this

>trusting a man named Sprankle

prostitutes sell their reputation and most likely will receive sexually transmitted disease eventually

coal miners work in hard labor to mine the current majority source of power in the US and abroad

prostitutes gain shame from their work while coal miners should gain respect, but often are treated poorly.

Get a job in fracking, it's better for you than coal mining and is still going to be around in 5 years.

Someone has to mine the coal that these whores burn, a fortune can be made.

Everyone who does a job is technically "selling" his body and skills and getting something in return.

And there's nothing wrong with having a moralistic view of sexuality

You should be free to sell your labour how you damn well see fit.

If there is a market for you to sell your body and you want to sell your body why the fuck shouldn't you?

Who has the right to tell you not to make your living with a consensual trade of goods?

Besides, prohibition is a fools errand. You cannot prohibit people from fulfilling their base desires. It does more damage to try and do so. The best you can do is legalise, regulate and minimise the harm to all involved.

Sex workers sell their sex and orgasm
coal miners sell their working power

best points itt

Whores also sell labor, the labor is used to achieve sexual relief.
Nobody "sells" themselves unless they sign an servitude contract.

Yeah but one is a whore

They probably would.

Dr. Eric Sprankle, Jew

You're the perfect cuck m8
>Mine the coal
>She burns it

Stupid. Miner, like all workers, sells work done using his active body whereas the hooker sells access to her passive body.

Hating Weimerica more every day.

Imagine what a stable society would exist, one where female sexuality is freed up so that they can be sex workers and not feel sad when "racist frog maymays" pop up on their Twitter ridiculing them for their degenerate life choices and failure to birth children.
What a beautiful utopia, motherless, diseased whores and pimps who run them around.
Versus a breadwinner doing an honest day's work.
There is honour in your work, whether you like it or not. Reminds me of Good Will Hunting, when he talks about the "honour" in janitorial work.

If it was a male prostitute it would be clearer that one is a work-shy net drain on society while the other is a hardworking coalminer.

I DONT BELIEVE IT, I cant believe it....

beautiful

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very good one

By that logic, brokerage dealing should be an illegal profession as well.

What's unethical about two consenting adults making an exchange of money for sexual services?

>your view is clouded
Not an argument.

He is right.

Sex workers spread disease and contribute little to society. Coal workers sacrifice their bodies to power the world. How is this a discussion?

>by this metric, everyone is selling their bodies.
that's the point of the OP, yeah
it's commie propaganda bruh

The answer is it depends because there are all kinds of brokerages for all kinds of industries and products and services.

Are you taking about being a middle man or are you talking about the ethics of selling certain things?

Nothing in isolate. But society-wide, history has shown very damaging long term repercussions.

Prostitution should be legal IMO, but the position that it shouldn't be has merits.

>net zero gain for society
>distributes resources to people who contribute nothing
>spreads disease (arguably, legalization would mitigate this)
>leads to infidelity (partnered customers)

Coal mining is noble, fucking for money isn't.

Its more unethical to pollute the environment than to have sex for money. Coal miners don't give a fuck anyway so fuck them and their dirty dying industry.

The last thing we need is more fucking coal but there will ALWAYS be a demand for sex. Literally always.

the pimp sells your body, reality strikes

It's a pretty shitty analogy and any manner of job takes a physical and mental toll on the body
professional athletes market and sell their bodies and are often exploited, especially at college level
teachers go through mental hell in urban schools
coal miners have their respiratory system absolutely fucking destroyed
and whores catch STDs and are stigmatized for being sluts

I don't really understand what point that faggot is trying to make now

its true desu senpai

>If you think rape is a serious crime but copyright infringement is not, your view of property is clouded by your moralistic views of sexuality.

rape tiem??????

>feeling good isn't tangible or important

By that definition all luxury goods should be made illegal.

>somehow sex is an act which you can no longer apply morals or ethics to.

>Dr. Eric Sprankle is an Associate Professor at Minnesota State University, Mankato where he serves on the faculty of the clinical psychology graduate program and the sexuality studies undergraduate program. He is also a licensed clinical psychologist in the state of Minnesota, and an AASECT-certified sex therapist. Dr. Sprankle received his doctorate in clinical psychology from Xavier University and completed a postdoctoral fellowship at the University of Minnesota Medical School's Program in Human Sexuality. He currently leads the Sexual Health Research Team at MSU examining sex work stigma, the effects of sexually explicit material, older adult sexuality, and the intersections of sexual health and genital piercings.

>When not engaged in scholarly pursuits, Dr. Sprankle religiously reads Edgar Allan Poe, watches horror films, and poorly gardens.

And no, I can't find out if he's Jewish.

Who cares? People who work manual labor sell their health. Prostitutes sell their dignity. There's no difference. Women could never do any valuable work to society anyway. Your moralistic authoritarianism doesn't help society in any way.

oy vey

I disagree. The damages caused by frivolous sex and Malthusian reproduction, contributed in part by prostitution, has been considerably more damaging throughout human history than the last 200 years since the beginning of the industrial revolution, coal alone.

Well we don't make women work the coal mines do we? Because women's bodies are more valuable then men's.

Think about it in terms of reproducing women's bodies are in constant demand because they are off the market for 9 months and then are worthless after like 60. Men are able to reproduce all year long and well into their old age.

Now that's an argument

Well, forced labor is basically slavery, and that's rather serious crime. Not murder of course, but still bad.
Not everyone can get married or find a girlfriend. By your logic nurse, caring for sick, is doing shit job - he has family, cook doesn't provide anything - do cook yourself, cloud services providers do nothing - you can get your own private cloud easily.

Who said anything about illegal. We're talking ethics, shame, and societal perception and effects, not legality. What board are you reading?

this isn't a bad thread and you all should be commended for engaging in critical thought to some degree or another.

The same could be said for a huge number of industries.

More importantly, prostitution has shown itself to be an inevitability of civilization - no society has ever stamped it out, and attempts to do so universally lead to an increase in the harms associated with the industry corresponding to the intensity with which the attempt to stamp it out are made.

Prostitution should be legal and regulated.

Doesn't matter. No brokerage dealer makes any kind of product. They just move money around, contributing nothing to society aside from increased debt. Also, your logic could be applied to most service industries.

Psychology doctorates evidently don't involve taking a philosophy class.

Unless coal miners use ejaculate to melt rocks I fail to see the parallels.

>Malthusian reproduction, contributed in part by prostitution
The fuck? Prostitutes do not bear child every time they have sex in right time. In fact, they rarely do have children.

>More importantly,
laws against prostitution exists because sex trafficking is a very lucrative business

Sup Forums can't see how their own views about sex feed into their demise

To the people that think whores don't contribute. If they didn't exist there'd be alot more rape cases laying around. Think about that retards.

Wouldn't the analogy be that male porn stars sell their body for sex?

Hard physical labor destroys your body over time.

You ever see any old coal miners looking like they aren't in constant pain?

Yeah, in a way, they are selling their body.

I don't disagree with any of those points.

I think we may be taking past each other here.

My point is that the OPs quote is wrong. There is an ethical difference between the two. Prostitution, while perhaps made legal, should still be frowned upon as an industry and treated like pariah segment within society.

Functional healthy nuclear families have historically contributed the most to society and are paramount to a well functioning one. Prostitution subverts that by trivializing sex. Prostitution, while ubiquitous in humanity and therefore should be legalized, should be kept from interfering with its success as much as possible. This means minimizing the impact of stds, promiscuity, unwanted children, drug abuse, etc. etc.

What is this fucking meme that prostitution is a net drain on society?

Will you think about it for a second with getting all morality man on it?

What happens when the males of society are prohibited from purchasing consensual sex from attractive women?

1) They go right ahead and do it anyway. This creates a black market, empowers criminals, related crimes swell, the transaction often becomes unconsensual, people are abused, people get hurt or sick. It becomes a stain.

2) Men who have no realistic means of fulfilling there sexual needs (because not all men can get laid nearly as much as their libido would like) divert those sexual attentions towards normal women who become ever more choosy, entitled and unobtainable.
What happens when men begin to give regular women all this attention? It empowers the women. It gives them control. Instead of being able to satisfactorily fuck a pro, safely, cheaply and discretely, these men are loose in society worshipping at the feet of women in the hopes of getting sex. It goes to womens' heads. They get away with murder. Men begin to tolerate insane amounts of female bullshit because women hold all the power on a societal level.

Men get angry at not getting laid. Men get desperate. Rapes go up, suicides go up, male morale (crucial for the well being of society) goes through the floor because what was a triviality becomes an all consuming compulsion.
Marketers take advantage. Buy this, do this, you need this, live like this, believe this, think that... This is what you need to do to get pussy that you need.

Overall men are left at the mercy of their natural urges and women are unduly elevated to a position of power that no society can survive.

You would find that if it were legalised and socially normalised that it would actually remove the overt sexuality from our society. It would force women to actually compete for male attention with decency and homemaking skills.

Brokerages put people together who would otherwise be unable to find each other. In many cases they're a lynchpin to enterprise. eBay, Goldman Sachs, amazon, Netflix, all brokerages in a sense. Producer, brokerage, buyer.

Brokerage takes risk,his investment results in the rising of an organization,more R and D,expansions and workers.

Instead you mean to say one should simply invest his money in some Disneyland shit?

(((Dr. Eric Sprankle))))

>lying on your back taking the cocks of strange men in various holes for money
>mining the very earth beneath us for valuable and useful minerals that our civilization literally wouldn't have existed without access to

THESE THINGS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

Bonus Round:

Are you implying the women are incapable of being miners? That's cissexist.

Didn't say that. But prostitution does lead to the trivialization of sex in society in general.

yes it is

Well, he is correct.

i wonder if he puts sprankles on his cupcakes

Sex IS trivial thing. By sacralizing it you are feeding billions of vapid cunts, cucks and feminists, you are empowering women.

Do libcucks seriously think coal mining works the same way it did centuries ago?