IQ and behaviour should be the variables in whether someone can stay not race

IQ and behaviour should be the variables in whether someone can stay not race.
Discuss.

inb4 they correlate. That is true to a degree but still now reason to treat a low iq white criminal better than a high iq law abiding black person

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Kill every Jew in the world

Save the world

Discuss...

IQ is worthless. Inflation-normalised income as a percentage of paternal income at the age of 25, or relevant contributions to academic fields (ie. a phd)

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Yes I agree but only if you make an exception for my 5 brothers sisters parents and children

...what? it would make parental incentive to sink as much cash as possible into their children.

that's stupid.
You need low IQ people to do low IQ jobs. Do you really want to live in a world where people with a score of 130 are pumping your gas?
It should be based on race because a a smart white man is going to have more in common with a dumb white man than a smart nigger.

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The vast majority of people with a PhD are fucking worthless. Gas yourself for even considering anything in this post to be of use.

humanities don't count.

>Do you really want to live in a world where people with a score of 130 are pumping your gas?
Why would that be the issue?

>It should be based on race because a a smart white man is going to have more in common with a dumb white man than a smart nigger.
That's just plain wrong though. Intelligence is the main factor in behaviour and you are lying if you claim there aren't middle class blacks you have more in common with than white trash

Agree man, we should look at people individually. But statistically, well have less diversity, right? ;)

You can have a PhD in econ and still be a worthless 5th column cuck. More so, not all of the humanities are bad. Actual living philosophers are essential to social cohesion and success imo, for a few reasons.

No doubt.

>philosophers are essential

that's like saying domino players are essential. philosophy is a hobby.

>IQ and behaviour should be the variables in whether someone can stay not race.
Best argument against this?

Jews and Chinese.

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Jews and chinese are heavily reliant on foreign engineers etc.
Way to disprove yourself

>Why would that be the issue?

Because its a menial job, for a person who is competent to do far more with their life.

>That's just plain wrong though. Intelligence is the main factor in behaviour

Intelligence is a factor, not the main factor. You can be a socially destructive, impulsive sociopath with a high IQ.

>you are lying if you claim there aren't middle class blacks you have more in common with than white trash

No, he really isn't. In terms of market participation, sure, we probably have more in common. But culturally, what culture does exist in the states, this is not the case. And you are deluded if you think otherwise.

I fundamentally disagree. Philosophy is often considered useless, or a pretense or etc.. by people who have found little use for it. But the truth is that it is incredibly useful, especially for people looking for help in forming their perception of the world. People who specialize in abstract philosophy are incredibly useful in this modern context, but they need to also be fully competent in their practice to be useful. That is why all humanities PhD grads aren't totally worthless. (I can't people I'm defending PhDfags, how could you do this to me?)

There's no evidence for your claims in the real world.

High IQ Jews and Chinese have always had their own agendas separate from Europeans. Why on Earth would they weaken themselves in order for enemy tribes to access their resources?

Even Michio Kaku said to his children "find a nice Japanese girl to marry." Why is that?

If you had high IQ you would realize race is more than skin color, more than IQ, but a totality on many biological levels. Your high IQ multiracial society would still be fractionalized on racial lines. Fucking retarded Kraut

>ywn lick his butthole while he sucks your benis

>Because its a menial job, for a person who is competent to do far more with their life
So? This was the reality for the majority of human existance with 98% serfs. I assume your point is that a more intelligence requiring job would be unfilled thus.
This is true if not enough high iq people been breed yet. However my second distinction was behaviouristic. If we throw out all the criminals and keep the good ones and only let high iq migrants in over time society will grow more intelligent with low iq people still around for menial tasks

>ntelligence is a factor, not the main factor. You can be a socially destructive, impulsive sociopath with a high IQ.
Yes

>But culturally, what culture does exist in the states, this is not the case. And you are deluded if you think otherwise.
>whiggers don't exist
>traditionalist niggers don't exist
Get real

Neither Israel or China wants to be multicultural. Both are heavily nepotistic and nationalistic, only using foreigners as temporary workers. They still have the mob rule in effect in those countries -- if a foreigner does something to the locals the locals tend to gang up on the outsiders unlike in the West.

We in the West are weakened by divide and conquer. Soon we are just a No Man's Land until some unified race can conquer it for better purposes.

>Kraut
I just realized that most German flags aren't evne German.

Nothing to see here folks. It's just a foreign invader trying to justify his existence in the West and to continue stealing our resources.

>IQ and behaviour should be the variables in whether someone can stay not race.
Sure. Ideally, if you had some practical means to test everybody. What's your solution for the real world, though?

>There's no evidence for your claims in the real world.
What claims?

>Even Michio Kaku said to his children "find a nice Japanese girl to marry." Why is that?
I have no idea who that is but it is pretty clear you have no interest in honest discussion and just try to defend your emotional position by...
I don't really know what you're trying to say and I doubt you know. So far you haven't made an argument

>Why on Earth would they weaken themselves in order for enemy tribes to access their resources?
You're so far into your own memes you can't understand basic discussions anymore

I'd like to make our minimum 105 IQ for immigration.
And 95 for a citizen (and world wide to be honest) to avoid sterilization.
After 20 years, we'd then sterilize the bottom 10%.
Then you build incentives for the top 15% to have many more children.

This is a retarded idea because IQ and behavior are not fixed and can change. You faggots always bring these two things up lik they're immutable. Jews used to have shit IQs when they first came to America now sure shitting on whites. You laugh at hur hurrr muh 85 average IQ of muh niggers. Look up Dunbar high school. It was an all black high school in DC where the students maintained a 100 or above collective IQ for 20 years until they let the ghetto tier niggers in and everything got worse.

This is entry level, just walked in the pol door kinda idea. Excommunicate yourself from society please you fucking nigger

Like what?

>would still be fractionalized on racial lines
Source?

>Fucking retarded Kraut
le strong swear words to wash over inconsistencies meme

Automation and globalization are coming.
In 20-30 years it'll be a much different world.

IQ and the Big Five personality traits are mostly heritable, racial differences in cognitive ability are well-documented, so you'll end up with only a minority of non-Europeans individuals anyway (except East Asians).

If we get to test every single person on earth and sterilize everyone under 95 IQ, I'm fine with it.
The Chinese numbers are artificially inflated, and the top 40% aren't so bad.

>What claims?
That IQ is the main factor in tribalism instead of race.
>So far you haven't made an argument
You don't have any moral high ground on me. I have made my points and if you don't like what you see that's your problem, but other posters here can clearly see who is more in the right.

>divide and conquer. Soon we are just a No Man's Land until some unified race can conquer it for better purposes.
Yeah no that's bullshit. Certainly for Germany the main issue is division on ideological lines and anti-nationalism. Pretty sure it's the same for Finnland.

Exactly.
Hapa master race.

Iq tests, criminal history and a social system that doesn't allow leeching

That's interesting and I'd like to hear more.
What is your ideal society like demographically and how to get htere?

Never claimed otherwise.

Doesn't matter anyway---
genetic engineering coming in the next 10 years;
elites will be more elite;
all your nations are fucked, the elites will move around fucking over every place.

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>So? This was the reality for the majority of human existance with 98% serfs
>This is true if not enough high iq people been breed yet. However my second distinction was behaviouristic. If we throw out all the criminals and keep the good ones and only let high iq migrants in over time society will grow more intelligent with low iq people still around for menial tasks

As was slavery. In fact, it was once considered a social impossibility for a society to exist without the institution of slavery. My point is that it is wasteful, and the plan itself is impractical. Pro-immigrant factions will shill low IQ Jamals and Pajeets as your next generation of doctors and engineers,and completely rule out the metric of IQ as an invalid construct. I have personally seen this happen. But even your idealistic policy could happen, it would be wasteful due to the restraints you'd put on high IQ people, by flooding them into one country, or one economic zone like the EU. Their intellectual capacity would be effectively worthless. Not only would you be stripping western countries of their sense of identity, you'd be causing a "brain drain" on these migrants' country of origin. Countries that could use all the high IQ people they can get.

It would be far more realistic to meme eugenics back into the social norm. And that seems quit impossible in the immediate future.

>Get real

Dude, if I could bring you to my city if for nothing else than to just redpill you on race, I would do it. But I don't know you. I will simply tell you from experience that you're subscribing to a very destructive fiction though. Wiggers are such a tiny minority of the population, that they are even fewer than traditionalist blacks. And trust me, that's a really, really fucking small % of blacks.

What's that supposed to solve? So, you would rather do geopolitical battle against high IQ enemies than mixed IQ?

>moral high ground
>tribalism
That's not what that means. You're just going through buzzphrases you learned without ever having thought about what I'm saying in the OP.

>you'd be causing a "brain drain" on these migrants' country of origin
So? Like I care.

>It would be far more realistic to meme eugenics back into the social norm
What do you think eugenics is that you consider it different from shaping your society by intelligence?

>Wiggers are such a tiny minority of the population, that they are even fewer than traditionalist blacks
Oh pssh.

I don't have one, but one based on IQ is just stupid. If that were the case then niggers in the north would have been able to stay over antebellum southern whites, because they were in large parts fucking lazy retards.

I know pol loves to shit on niggers but just look up the history of Dunbar/M Street school. Top notch black children being pumped out of there that went on to become most of the first blacks in whatever fields they went in to. They even angered the nigger tier blacks in the neighborhood because they saw them as elites and resented them for it.

Also if you like rural areas be prepared to ship all your farmers away, since cities have higher collective IQs then rural areas.

All multiculti politics eventually devolve into race politics. Singaporeans has made this clear. We are lucky to have ideological lines.

Which point in my original post are you talking about now? Are you disputing human tribal behavior now or what?

IQ is objectively a faulty premise, as is making IQ the cornerstone of your argument.

I used to have a high intelligence, until I got switched for someone with low imaginative abilities. Got to live in 2dimensional land now apparently. Apparently.

>multiculti politics eventually devolve into race politics
They really don't though. Far eastern migrants integrated into societies fairly well. Same for inner european migrants like greeks etc.

>We are lucky to have ideological lines
No the ideological line Islam is undeniably one of the worst things in the world.
And it goes to show: Middle eastern christians behave way better than white muslims

>Are you disputing human tribal behavior now or what?
You're just throwing this broad word out without meaning. The nation can be the tribe. Your social circle can be the tribe. Your racial tribal worldview from Sup Forums is NOT the reality for most people who just want to get on with their lifes and don't mind law abiding tax payers just for having parents from another country.

>So? Like I care.

You really should. Geopolitical and ecological stability are incredibly fragile things. Who would have considered that deposing a dictator in Libya would end up flooding Europe with millions of low IQ, futureless Afro-Islamic migrants? I certainly didn't, though I was younger when all of this started. The first step of political realism is accepting that your idealistic ends will likely never, ever end up resembling objective ends. What is idealistic or preferred can often be a treacherous form of self-deception. What you're proposing is not only expedient in its idealistic ends, but remarkably simplistic.

>What do you think eugenics is that you consider it different from shaping your society by intelligence?

One of the biggest obstructions to the discussion of eugenics in our countries historically, aside from associations to certain ideologies, is that so few people could form a consensus on what is desirable or what would be preferred in these programs. And in that, it's never solely intelligence, nor should it be solely intelligence.

>Oh pssh.

Is this a form of refutation in Germany? Or just a bluepilled deflection? My money is on the latter desu.

>deposing a dictator in Libya would end up flooding Europe
No taking them in flooded europe. There are many steps inbetween.

>The first step of political realism is accepting that your idealistic ends will likely never, ever end up resembling objective ends
He says as an argument against pragmatic approaches to demography to defend idealistic racialism.

>but remarkably simplistic
It's a hypothetical discussion about a specific subject. Of course it is.

>so few people could form a consensus on what is desirable
So? I'm asking why not IQ and your answer is some people disagree?

>Or just a bluepilled deflection?
Cringed. Whiggers are at an all time high and you know it. If you have to lie to make your case it kind of speaks against you

High IQ blacks and high IQ jews are the most likely to lead anti-white resistance movements. And even if a low IQ white bleaches your daughter, your grandchildren will still at least look like you.

They do correlate you stupid fucker. Also, even if a black person has a high IQ, regression to the mean means that their children may still be low IQ. Beyond that, IQ is the only reason not to deport non-whites.

>Far eastern migrants integrated into societies fairly well.
"Chinatowns" beg to differ. The fact that they exist is proof that somewhere down the line assimilation failed and it turned into a parasite entity within an entity.

If Asian Americans were so well-integrated, then these anti-white communities wouldn't exist.
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>No the ideological line Islam is undeniably one of the worst things in the world.
Islam isn't the problem, in fact, once again race is the main factor in the Islamic world.

See: Tatar Muslims. They are genetically mostly Russian with some Central Asian blood. Way more peaceful than the middle-easternized Chechens who constantly blowing up metros. There's a clear historical pattern between Africans/Arabs and antisocial behavior.
>The nation can be the tribe.
Nation in the old-fashioned way means both the race and culture combined. The state is not a tribe because it's an artificial construct prone to changing. Nobody is proud to be a nu-German multicultist because it's not really anything. The instant it breaks down we go back to prison rules with distinct primal tribalistic racial lines.

>No taking them in flooded europe. There are many steps inbetween.

How old are you? Of course there were steps in between. My point was that the first step to this state of fuckery was an idealistic end, or, at least that's what the western public wanted to believe.

>He says as an argument against pragmatic approaches to demography to defend idealistic racialism

If you think this is pragmatic, than you are truly fucking deluded. What's the next step of your plan? To screen every African in an IQ test, and see which one gets to come to Germany? It's not just simplistic, its absurd.

Also, when did I advocate for anything regarding race? Much less an idealistic racially-based vision that I never articulated.... But more so, why is every argument in favor of western sovereignty inherently racist to you?

>He says as an argument against pragmatic approaches to demography to defend idealistic racialism

Hypothetical discussions can be very abstract concepts. Hopefully you'll understand this and make a thread that isn't shit sometime in the future.

>So? I'm asking why not IQ and your answer is some people disagree?

I believe that IQ is desirable as an end of social engineering, and have never argued against IQ being an end of any hypothetical social engineering program.

>Cringed. Whiggers are at an all time high and you know it. If you have to lie to make your case it kind of speaks against you

I really have nothing but disgust for wiggers, and have only seen probably 2 in my life. I haven't lied ITT at a single point, either. You sound so ignorant of this place, I amazed that one could be so opinionated on the topic. Are you by chance a woman? (Not insulting. Legit curious). Are there a lot of wiggers in Germany?

>how could you do this to me?
I don't consider it useless, I consider it useful. Just like dominos is useful for memory less. It is non-essential in that anyone can think without being "taught to think".

Regression to the mean.

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Except diverse societies will never agree to discriminate citizenship based on intelligence since so many people have the thought in the back of their minds that it would be adversely affect more members of their group. Many high IQ people will always oppose it, innately knowing that it would be bad for their ethnic cohorts and/or lead to the rest of society justifying treating them with more prejudice.

>behavior
oh yeah im gonna trust a judge to say all the niggers are good boys and dindu nuffin

You're absolutely right

This.

See: Second/third generation radicalization. Those are the kids of said high IQ immigrants.

>the fact that

>Germany
>40% New births Mussy
>Germanistan

.. You got bigger problems Heinrich. Like half your country being inbred shitskins

Your common sensical opinion is controversial here

I don't think abstract philosophy or its practical applications could be summed up like that. People who're experts in abstract philosophy don't go to school to be trained how to think for the rest of their lives, they go to gain perspective from classical philosophy, science, modern developments and complete their education based on their own intellectual capacity. Considering how difficult attaining such a degree is, I think it has more merit than a PhD in gender studies or some other meme tier subject of the humanities because of what it takes to acquire the degree comparatively. More so, these people can help provide vision and context to people (even highly intelligent people) who may have not considered every potential end of their efforts.

People with that level of intellectual competence can grasp most any subject.

That's right. Hand over your national resources now.

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