If you are male and you identify as submissive in the BDSM sense but you are also right winged and voted for Trump how do you live having those two different ideas at once?
You know that they only way you will ever get laid is if female supremacy gains power and it never will as long as Trump is in office.
How do you cope knowing that you are stupid and shouldn't be allowed to vote?
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>two different ideas
how are they different ? one is a political leaning \ political candidate choice and the other a sexual preference . the two have no relation whatsoever .
its like asking how do you cope with the conflict between your favorite cheese and your stance on the leibniz vs newton debate .
I identify as a whatever the fuck in the bdsm scale.
Just because youre sexually submissive doesnt mean you cannot be socially dominant.
Infact for some reason the most social dominant people have a tendency to be sexually submissive.
Its true, I always take it up the ass and I proudly voted for Trump.
...
This seems like a legitimate statement.
Just about the hierarchy part.
Difference between me wanting a hierarchy and the liberal not wanting one, is that theyre weak.
There will always be a hierarchy, once were all the same physical proportions, there will be a hierarchy of intelligence. Once we are all same physically, and score the same on IQ tests, other aspects of character will be more desirable compared to others.
Difference is, id rather improve myself and climb the hierarchy rather than complaining its oppressive and asking for others to degrade themselves.
>You know that they only way you will ever get laid is if female supremacy gains power and it never will as long as Trump is in office.
how the fuck is cuckolding related to authoritarianism you dumb fuck ?
theres no such thing as female supremacy in western society . nowdays certain countries, mainly islamic are male supremacist (patriarchal), the western world however is egalitarian and has been for many decades .
and getting laid while being sexually submissive has nothing to do with society's view of the patriarchy/matriarchy/egalitarianism spectrum its about finding someone compatible with your sexuality.
there's plenty of women in both egalitarian and patriarchal societies that are compatible with submissiveness .
also right\left spectrum has nothing to do with this and both trump and hillary were completely egalitarian so i cant see how the fuck do you connect completely unrelated things.
Dude one is just a degenerate sexual fetish. It is not real life. You do not base actual political and social policy on what happens to get your penis hard.
Jeez
femdom is the ultimate red pill, desu.
Mostly because I hate myself and have zero self confidence.
I have a dominant gf who slaps me around and I love it, and we both voted Trump. I don't get it either, on paper I should be this pro-diversity bluepilled good goy, but instead I've gone full 14/88. Life is weird.
Women having power in the bedroom is much different from the woman who did Benghazi and destroyed Libya being in charge of the most powerful country on Earth.
Dommes are sexy. Killing Gaddafi was not. Makes sense?
Femdom can be wonderful. It gives women a sense of power they shouldn't have out of the bedroom.
yes the neo-nazis of Sup Forums voted trump into office because they wanted to remain anal virgins (and generally virgins)
Just pay a hooker to beat you once a week and get it over with, lad.
How do you even get your dick hard if you aren't the dominant one? One of my fattest gfs wanted to ride on me. My dick didn't comply.
>more than one fat gf
why?
problem being that you date fatties.
my dick would not comply either, regardless of position
Trump submits to the Jews.
>>Disagree with my sexual preferences
>>must be stupid!! Reeeeeee!!
Wow, you're a fucking retard. Are you the same butthurt Muslim from the last thread?
What if one enjoys both sides of the BDSM power play? Can you wrap your gypsy mind around that?
>submissive makes want a more authoritarian government to dominate them
This is surprising?
the g-d's chosen has spoken
>strawmanning an entire fantasy where "libruls" are all "weak" and therefor the other (righties? conservatives? simply "strong" people?) are all "strong" and therefor want hierarchy because they think theyre entitled to and will automatically get/claim higher spots which they want the most, to be over others (to feed their dire insecurity and fucked mental issues)
>put a bunch of these "strong" (I.e., mental cases) in a room where work needs to be done and watch them all fuss and fight because they all want to be big-headed power tripping idiots, rather than accomplish tasks and cooperation lmao
>then think "libruls" are weak (and don't have hierarchy, which is false)
>get btfo by "libruls"
>but muh "superiority"! muh "stronk"!
>complete with fantasy cherry on top where these hierarchies nearly ever allow for climbing and where " self improvement" has fuck all to do with it
Your submissive feelings have been fading haven't they ? There has been an international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids. Visitors to the chans are exposed to audiovisual acceleration. The effect is more pronounced with you due to latent homosexual tendencies.
Cuck detected
I am a male submissive and yet I've also spent quite some time processing the redpill on women. If I'm getting you right, I also do sense some dissonance there and I also don't like it. You could go as says and compartmentalize your politics and your sexuality into separate boxes, but then you won't be an integrated individual who can act and opine consistently across all aspects of your life... should I go on?
is this way you filthy submissive betas
Femdom is a form of homosexuality, you want women to behave like men because you're in the closet, just look at your practice of pegging and tell me subbing to women isn't homoerotic. You make me sick
Depends on the mood we're in. Sometimes I fuck her, sometimes he fucks me.
Femdom only works as a kink if you both think women are inherently subservient to men on some level, and enjoy being degraded or humiliated to some level. Someone who genuinely thinks women are equal to men isn't going to get off on being dominated by a woman because there's no taboo.
From this it follows that it shouldn't be uncommon for otherwise right leaning men to have femdom as a fetish.
>only taboos can be erotic
really makes me think, not.
>only taboos can be erotic
Go ahead and prove me wrong.
Impossible. No self-respecting stilton-eater could ever accept that Leibniz was first.
Never heard of Newtons but I do love myself a Leibniz
beta, yes, homo, no. It might be hard to get your head around this if you're not familiar with Femdom and I concede there might be cases, and that's why I'm bothering to give you a (You). Big tits get me hard. So don't you judge me you yellow-teethed bastard
Can you get rid of a femdom fetish? I stopped watching porn for a couple of months and I mostly didn't think about it in that time but it didn't completely go away. It's like it was minimized in the background. I'm sick of being into weird shit. Traps are bad enough. And yea it's even worse with my political viewpoints being what they are. It feels completely unnatural.
People don't have to indulge in their fetish for every sexual experience.
My buddy only likes fucking ass. Says he doesn't like the pussy. Yet most of the sex he has with his wife is in the cunt.
Plus your sex pref doesn't have to have shit to do with politics unless you make it so.
I like choking women during sex but I don't walk around yelling about how I should be able to choke whatever bitch I want.
nothing beta if you switch
Tits are erotic. As is lingerie. Neither of these are considered a taboo. Therefore you're a retard.
Fuck your topic OP
I want to know how people who are subs but think women are inferior in every perimeter cope.
It's not that they don't necessarily think women are inferior. They just don't think they are superior.
Or maybe it's something like stroking negative emotions so they stimulate you.
So you think it's alpha to want to live in an authoritarian state with no freedom?
Bowing down to an authoritarian leader and doing whatever they say without question is only something cucks do.
>Femdom is a form of homosexuality
the vast majority of pol unironically thinks that women are inferior in all parameters to men yes.
Letting the strong men make your country great again for you is what every cuck wants.
Exposed breasts are taboo as is wearing lingerie in public.
Everyone knows the sub is really in charge and gets all the attention.
I pretty much live two separate lives.
>city coordinator for greenpeace
>professional fundraiser for dnc, dccc, dscc, planned parenthood, doctors without borders, senate majority pac, ars, and long ass list of others
>sexually submissive sometimes
>voted for trump
>own guns
>racist
>in a committed relationship with a white woman
>donate to republican committees
>card carrying, paying, member of the NRA
>degree in corporate finance and accounting
>a hundred other contradictions
I enjoy it because of the rush, mostly, I think. Also, I'm very good at my jobs and make a solid living off of them.
I just keep my work and personal lives miles apart from each other.
A successful life is found within balance, user.
I'm intensely into femdom and publicly argue women are inferior at the same time desu
Robo-whores... they are the ANSWER to all of MAN'S problems
explain your feelings on both and how you feel they interact in your life. for science!
Ok il admit it pol, I am into femdom
Holy shit. I'd go crazy. You have a disciplined mind user.
Until you have a drink too much at the office party.
Well, I'm mad at women, and it's clearer than day to me how silly, stupid, and vapid they all are. There's a massive discrepancy between male and female intelligence and achievement, and I had a debate about this topic just last week, and the female opposition was unable to come up with any counterarguments.
They're unfairly given tons of benefits for the sake of taking over male professions and fields, and I'm just so sick of hearing about "Women, women, women" all the time.
At the same time, I've been abused by women in my life since I was a kid, including my teachers, sister, and mother, and had an intense focus on anti-feminism from a young age. I believe this obsession, combined with a slight unfortunately innate submissive inclination led me to completely develop in this way.
Now, on top of getting mad and frustrated at women, the more upset I get the more aroused I get. I think about a caring, understanding girl listen to me vent in detail about everything that's happened to me, and decide for me that I'm just gonna have to only think about her from then on.
It's interfered with so much in my life, and may as well be completely taking over it in many ways. I am no cuckold, but am pretty much as far in as possible; I get off to female supremacy, 'goddess worship,' and my mind is just so conditioned that I have a longing for these things even when I'm unaroused.
Why do you CARE?
Its nice to take a break, plus it takes a lot of trust. I wouldnt even call it duality.
All i say is keep the degeneracy private.
Yeah, maybe. I did Judo for 15 years, maybe the whole discipline thing is real.
I've never really found it overwhelming, and I've been playing this game for over a decade now.
You just have to compartmentalize the factions of your life, and then it's pretty easy.
Maybe it'll lead to a psychotic episode/breakdown at some point in my life that I'll never see coming.
Don't know. That'd be pretty exciting, though.
Pedos and fags have been doing it for ages so I guess it is possible. But there's always a sort of fear of being found out I guess, and that doesn't make for a very happy life.
I honestly disagree that women are inferior mentally, but I have a close friend who does think I'm inferior, we have heart to heart chats a lot and he has submissive inclinations as well, but has gone through some shit but otherwise is pretty conservative as an individual, though they are far more pol-lite. (phonetically)
I wanted to talk to you to get a sense of how you feel because I know that my friend feels lonely, and probably like he'll never meet a girl who he can trust since we aren't really compatible for a number of reasons. I figured even if you didn't share all of eachothers quirks it would be beneficial for them to learn what other people think like and cope with.
I also admit it's hard for me to understand that position as well. female inferiority yet being submissive to women seems so contradictory to me. I know that if I ever bought into it, i'd never be able to even pretend otherwise again.
I'm confused. Did a girl listen to you vent and spurn you, or did you decide to not vent to girls because they can't be trusted?
Funny thing, 99% of women will say "yea you can vent!" or "just say what's on your mind user". Their favorite thing to say is, "I'm always here for you." But those are all actually bullshit. venting is a process reserved exclusively for women, if you ever vent to a woman it is basically like giving up your penis. She will never have respect for you again, and will basically demoralize the shit out of you.
Probably because you had less of a thought police during your interaction. There are also women who arent bluepill pharmacies.
Femdom in of itself is hot because it shows a woman who knows what they want, as opposed to the average tumblrinas with hardcore porn addictions and self harm tendencies..
>I get off to female supremacy
Same even though I know it's ridiculous. I'll read erotic shit online like future matriarchy stories. Half of me is getting off to it and the other half is arguing with it because a lot of it is so politicized with muh feminism. It's like my mind is trying to torture itself. I have OCD and I think that has a lot to do with it.
You aren't defined by your sexual fetishes.
you have to set up a rapport that you will listen to them first, and not in a surface way, and deal honest blows to their ego. venting is great but support is meaningless in an environment without criticism. Many women don't want criticism but some women just want real heartfelt criticism.
tl:dr use psychology.
You don't, you kys.
Fucking this. If that cockamamie story is true, it can't be anything other than a nightmare to be constantly hiding and faking it
You're right, yeah. I don't really have a fear of being found out.
It would shock some of the subordinates, sure. I would be more shocked if there weren't more.
There's some quote by someone along the lines of if you are not a liberal at 25 you have no heart, if you're not conservative at 35 you have no brain. Something to that effect.
More boiling down to, the older and more money you get, the more likely you are to want to preserve that. I'm in that stage in my life, and the people that I mostly work for are too dumb and idealist to really value you anything.
For an example:
The people that I teach to get money from liberals/democrats face a very common problem where they are confronted with donors saying something like, "I'm out marching in the streets, I'm supporting locally!" All that kind of shit. They don't realize that their voices don't really mean anything, and their letters don't really get read. They are convinced that everything but money changes things.
That ideology is why I'll never have to worry about money, why I'll always have job security, and why conservatives in America will always, inevitably win.
That, and the left are as consistent with their voting/turnout.
Also PSA user, mistresses at court have been debated here and akaik Sup Forums acknowledged the value of the women at Court. I saw examples going back to Spartan society (minus the homosexuality).
Its argued the king can better control his subjects through the network of mistresses. Not necessarily requiring blackmail, but as a way to put a thought in a vassals head sans politics and assembly.
That would basically just make us political tools, not agents representing our own interests. it isn't a meaningful landfall for women's rights, though I admit it gives me lots of fantasies about muh sisters of shadows.
It's really not debatable, unfortunately. This is my biggest problem - I wish women were equal, and I even sometimes wish they were superior. Everyone I meet, I am disappointed by the shallowness of their personality and character, how easily they just play into the absurdity of the system meant to rip away anything decent from them.
I understand IQ is not everything, but the male IQ is 2% higher, and men are much more likely to be of above average intelligence than coagulate around the mean as women do.
Despite school and college classrooms having been gradually re-organized to suit the more feminine way of learning, and despite women achieving higher grades in grade school, men still radically overtake women in math SAT testing, beat them in reading, and only slightly fall behind in writing. The top 100 Chess players in the world are all male, almost every important invention in the world has had a male inventor, most of the only notable women to exist in history are famous only for being a woman to do something many men had done earlier. Estrogen is literally an alcohol, and "Women being more emotional" is not a meme, and if you talk to mtf transsexuals, they can tell exactly how pronounced the differences and fragility in their state of mind are.
I'm also lonely as shit, I have no idea what I'm going to do. I loved my ex girlfriend, and we dabbled in this, but she turned out to be a soulless bitch and shat on everything we had. I dont even think of women as humans, almost, and have the most 'edgy' opinions and views on them.
I understand how it seems like it's a load of cognitive dissonance between thinking they're inferior and femdom, but it really isn't. Someone can be attracted to any obscure fetish out there, and their rational mind would not be obligated to find agreement with their sexual desire.
How did you even make this friend, and is he me? I've talked to a few about this thing, and they just say "not all of them are like that
I agree if you vent to a chick on tumblr you cutting your dick off.
If you cant vent to your wife you wont stay married long. Unless youre authoritarian, most people want to know who theyre going to spend the rest of their life with.
The fact that you can't grasp that some people can separate their sexuality from their politics means that you are a retard.
Besides, femdom is a top tier fetish, not to be confused with cuckoldry.
fuck off degenerate '"belgian'" kike
>your political decisions should be based on who and how you want to fuck
I think the problem womens general inability to receive criticism. Once protecting their feelings becomes law, we get problems like what you describe.
>belgium flag
>thinks opinion matters
>>your political decisions should be based on who and how you want to fuck
How the fuck do we all vote for Putin!
I am just generally interested in bdsm in both the sadistic and masochistic way. I guess you could call me a switch. I lean right and support trump, but I do like a dominant woman, but I also like to dominate submissive women. I have kinks and fetishes but I also make good money and live a nice life.
fuck man, I am alpha as fuck make good money own a small business. but nothing makes me harder than a black girl dominating me in the bedroom or asian.
But they CAN receive criticism. You just have to be the right guy. Women don't respect cucks, and there are too many cucks right now. They want alphas to guide them.
They're coddled and raised to believe they're infallible princesses, whether they realize it or not.
I used to believe I'd meet one that was different, but on top of just the broad scope of things, all the Tindr-thots and regular normie girls, every one I've talked to who seemed bookish, reasonable, well-thought out displayed the same two-dimensional depth of character after just a little more examination.
Women hold no strong convictions - right-wing girls, for example, are fundamentally the same as SJW's. They truly care little for the causes we do. It's a matter of garnering more male attention, and being regarded as cool, unique, and #notliketheothergirls.
Same with gamer girls. Women see a male-dominated space, and unconsciously realize the social potential they have of infecting it.
Most liberals lack the capability to understand that being called a cuck isn't just a sexual insult. The Cuckoo bird replaces the eggs of other birds with it's own, those birds then continue to feed their false children despite the absurdity being obvious. To say that a desire for authority or hierarchy is akin to being a cuckold is simply a complete misunderstanding of what cuck really means.
To elaborate, hierarchy and authority can be mutually beneficial. The entire Roman system of patronage was like this. For birds on the other hand, there is no benefit to being a cuck. The Cuckoo bird kills their children and yet they raise the Cuckoo's children as one of their own. Their bloodline ends, while the Cuckoo's bloodline continues, there is no mutual benefit.
Being a cuck is a fundamentally maladaptive evolutionary behavior.
>its not debatable
not a scientific position you've got there then
>IQ
there are a veriety of outcomes in IQ tests, some favor women, some favor men, some favor no one. IQ tests are open season, a proper methodologically accounted for, and above all, repeatable IQ test result is what matters. until that is done it is an open question. Please do not deny the existance of countermanding evidence in this field. it does exist.
>Despite school and college classrooms having been gradually re-organized to suit the more feminine way of learning, and despite women achieving higher grades in grade school, men still radically overtake women in math SAT testing, beat them in reading, and only slightly fall behind in writing
and despite men supposedly being superior they are very very very prone to making sexist judgements on their female peers grades in high school. Also womens grades in grade school as an edge seems very suspect to me, At that time period much of the grade system is not stringently watched, and a lot of women are graded on how pretty their writing is, while men are graded on their substance. It's probable that they are equal or men are doing better at that age.
>and have the most 'edgy' opinions and views on them.
are you the one who goes around posting images of women being choked and calling them animals?
>I understand how it seems like it's a load of cognitive dissonance between thinking they're inferior and femdom, but it really isn't. Someone can be attracted to any obscure fetish out there, and their rational mind would not be obligated to find agreement with their sexual desire.
I know all about rational and irrational fetishes, I'm not really arguing from that angle. what gets your dick hard is all well and good I admit, but a lot of what I see in femdom and maledome are about peace of mind and comfort, with sexuality as a blatant but noticable afterthought to much of the coupling.
>is he me
doubtful,
Man I just want a girl to hold and ride me while teasing that she is gonna make me father her children.
Fags are stupid
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Not entirely user, obviously. But surely in part. Isn't politics downstream from culture? And isn't sexuality a huge part of culture?
Your response is loaded with hostility and pedantic nonsense, which just goes to show my point. I thought we were having a relatively civil discussion. You also completely misunderstood (maybe intentionally?) what I meant by "it's not debatable." Anyways:
All of your arguments hinge on possibilities, or 'what-ifs.' Show me one study on IQ where women have the edge.
You picked and chose the low hanging fruit of what I said, and men being "very very very prone to making sexist judgements on their female peers" is completely irrelevant to intelligence and our discussion.
No, I don't, I'm actually always polite, and rarely post anyways.
They can be about peace and comfort, but that peace and comfort is derived from femdom, making it the subject. The point still stands.
Idk why you're being such a cunt all of a sudden, did I trigger you with my different opinion?
we met on a /tg/ thread discussing sexuality. I had recently gained another different religious friend, had some new ideas about some assumptions I had made in my life, and wanted to try them out against someone I had every reason to believe was my exact opposite, so we changed some throwaway handles and have been wittling away at a friendship ever since. I can already tell you are not him because you are not a switch and vastly prefer femdom.
when it comes to IQ and female behavior, It's anywhere from -5 points differences to 2 difference (to men's 100), But I have basically nothing to say about female culture other than that I see a lot of male culture as equally cancerous and see commonality in their lack of refinement and vapid goals and behavior more than I would defend women as being enlightened peaceful people or whatever the fuck sjws are shilling these days. I don't have much to say on SAT scores and much of that other stuff, but I hope getting a degree in biology will help me understand how to search for scientific studies to thumb through as I am not really sold on making my opinion through journals and publications, even paid subscription ones can be mislead. about the only thing I'm even lightly educated on is IQ studies since it comes up so much more frequently.
I honestly find the discussion of female inferiority to be trite with most pol. they don't seem to understand the rammifications of lynn's studies being correct (they aren't, but that doesn't mean he's not right, just that his study needs fine tuning). A hall mark of science is the new questions that open up from a result but most of the sexist people I meet only see these studies as a means to end. to confirm what they already hoped to believe, even subconciously. That said, my friend did mention a CIA leak he came a hold of, a PDF that supposedly quantified female gullability, if you happen to have it, I'd love a copy. he never saved it and it informs a lot of his opinion.
BDSM is a fetish.
Right Wing is a political idealogy.
Neither can nor will mix.
You can have a nazi fetish and be a leftie.
You also cannot argue that women have achieved remotely as much as men have, which is clearly a symptom of lesser intelligence.
If you argue it's because of women's oppression, or nurture over nature, that's a whole nother can of beans I would be glad to go into with you, but your bitch-switch suddenly being turned on makes me doubt you actually have the maturity for a discussion where your ego is just a little bit at stake.
>You know that they only way you will ever get laid is if female supremacy gains power and it never will as long as Trump is in office.
Fuck off. Keep your sexual degeneracy to yourself. Find a woman and submit to her, why do you need a different politician to do that?
Separate your sex life from your real life.
>How do you cope knowing that you are stupid and shouldn't be allowed to vote?
Don't vote if you're this retarded.
Ok, I dated a man who was in his 40's, used to be a paratrooper in the military. I met him at the gun range and we hit it off. Found out he was into end of the world type prepping ( a little bit of a red flag ) but he was pretty realistic about it too. Ex military-check, albeit Canadian military. Works at the gun range-check. Prepping-good to know some things I guess? On the second date he showed me a pic of his dog that died 6 years before. The man starts bawling like a baby. Snot running in rivers down his lips and chin. I felt bad, I love animals they are family and it's sad when the go. But I also was pretty turned off. I gave him a chance and I'm not exaggerating, this man cried at everything it was a big turn off. I'm not cold. I think it's very healthy for anyone to show compassion, empathy and sympathy. But it seemed like I was dating one of the gals and it didn't feel right. So yeah, conservative and submissive don't mix!
because what makes your dick hard literally could not matter less for who you vote for as an elected official
>Your response is loaded with hostility and pedantic nonsense, which just goes to show my point. I thought we were having a relatively civil discussion. You also completely misunderstood (maybe intentionally?) what I meant by "it's not debatable." Anyways:
you seem to be completely interpreting the tone of my post simply because it contains information you don't agree with.
>All of your arguments hinge on possibilities, or 'what-ifs.' Show me one study on IQ where women have the edge.
theyre all available on wikipedia.
same as the oft cited lynn's study
en.wikipedia.org
>you picked and chose the low hanging fruit of what I said, and men being "very very very prone to making sexist judgements on their female peers" is completely irrelevant to intelligence and our discussion.
actually its very relevant because all studies have biases and it's very very important to control for these biases. it also shows a lack of judgement in man that needs to be accounted for to say they are superior to women. it could even turn out they have some way of telling that a girl has a low iq even if she has high grades. who really knows. you are making unbridled assumptions here based on nothing more than projecting on my skepticism for proponents of this notion.
>No, I don't, I'm actually always polite, and rarely post anyways.
glad to hear it. you did sound somewhat similar to what he sounds like. I'd never hope someone is that angry.
>They can be about peace and comfort, but that peace and comfort is derived from femdom, making it the subject. The point still stands.
it really doesn't stand when you consider how pervasive bdsm culture is, but that boils down to personal application. there's just some level of assumption that the relationship of domination will bleed over into other parts of life. it doesn't have to of course. but that's the culture of Xdom.
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I'm not really defined by Sup Forums, and am frequently accused of being a shill here whenever I do post my views on other topics. There seem to be just a few decent posters, then you are right to some extent, a horde of vapid manchildren descend and screech perversions about these ideas.
All in all, however, women fall into this negative stereotype far more often than men do, and I am disappointed much less on discovering the depth of a male's personality than a female's.
>Idk why you're being such a cunt all of a sudden, did I trigger you with my different opinion?
you are the one being obtuse. You made plenty of definitive statments to which i could take offense and I didn't. please show me the same respect and not immediately reading hostility into my posts where there is none.
All I got out of this is that there are middle aged ladies on Sup Forums. What an interesting timeline we're on.