A: >White ethnostate >Conservative (Stabil nuclear family, no promiscuity, "old" gender roles etc.) >No degeneracy (No porn, gay support) >Very authoritarian (heavy propaganda, no freedom of speech/enterprise, state is everywhere controls most things)
B: >90% white >High standart of living >Technologically advanced >Freedom of speech/enterprise >Decadence (promiscuity, weak nuclear family)
Asher Perez
B I wouldn't want to live in 1984 even if it was a degenerate free white ethnostate (this is an idiotic term to begin with, as all of Europe is the ancestral homelands of Whites therefore are White ethnostates)
David Turner
A ofc. A has the future of B. B has the future of Yugoslavia.
Jack Martin
A
B is basically America in the 1950's and we all know how that turned out.
James Bailey
theres a strong nuclear family involved, it wouldn't be as bad as 1984
Jose Diaz
Well it turned out good for the boomers
Levi Brown
B is the only correct answer.
You can't claim there's "no degeneracy" under a totalitarian government as totalitarianism is itself degenerate.
Brayden Rivera
Gay guy here. Obviously B. That sounds primo.
Samuel Russell
A The more I live and the more people I meet the more I realise the majority of people lack own values and morality and are easily manipulable with propaganda. Freedom is a meme and being used by certain groups of (((people))) to their own profit.
Michael Jackson
B
Grayson Adams
A totalitarian government is not needed to purge degeneracy though.
Austin Lewis
A, since every EU country has >heavy propaganda, no freedom of speech, state is everywhere controls most things
Carson Martin
A very clearly
Adrian Thomas
You're probably correct, but OP's scenario described a totalitarian government so I answered accordingly.
Jack Butler
Likely A, because B would turn into present conditions.
Gavin Jones
A >is that even a question
Hudson Cox
So would A. Read "The Fate of Empires".
Julian Sullivan
A, I have a huge boner for authoritarian states
Juan Hughes
A
Juan Russell
This right here
Joseph Scott
So did I. If I had to sacrifice my will for the common good I'd do it without hesitating. Besides, modern ""democracy"" is basically a totalitarian regime of those who own the media, banks and corporations, we are neither really free nor our own rulers.
Brody Adams
A, of course
Liam Jenkins
ah yes the "I redefine words at my convenience" argument good job mr leaf
Isaiah Turner
Personally, B.
An Authoritarian state should not be the absolute endgoal of trying to fix things, it should be used to pull us out of our hole until things such as the Judea can be dealt with. Afterward you can still keep some strong policy but an absolute authoritarian state is impractical long term and breeds more subtle problems that won't be dealt with.
After all, i suspect that most of us here, especially those who wish for a happening, wouldn't manage quite as well or with as much fervor if there were no problems to solve.
Wyatt Hill
B
Ryder Sanchez
A
Because B was 30 years ago, and look where we are now
Angel Howard
>modern ""democracy"" is basically a totalitarian regime of those who own the media, banks and corporations
It doesn't have to be. Technology has allowed us to break free of those who control the (((media))) and ultimately it will probably advance to the point that it allows other forms of control to be subverted as well.
3d printing and bitcoin are examples of tech that reduces central control over people.
Charles Collins
I choose B
Anthony Jackson
B but both suck in one or two points. I want this: >White ethnostate or 90% >Conservative (Stabil nuclear family, no promiscuity, "old" gender roles etc.) >High standart of living >Technologically advanced >Freedom of speech/enterprise >Not to much degeneracy meaning sadistic crazy shit and no push to pedo crap like some radical lefties try, gay,bi is obviously ok
Hunter Morales
B for obvious reasons. Mainly because a small amount of diversity helps prevent fascist chimpouts. As long as the degeneracy isn't peer-pressured to high hell, you still have a choice to live within that society and not be a degenerate yourself.
Asher Russell
These are someone else's worlds. I wish to make my own. However enslaving wh*tes and ar*bs are a must.
Justin Myers
The better question should be, if the two go up against each other. Who will win?
A
Jaxon Robinson
A
I grew up in A and then B happened. A was so much more comfy.
Alexander Adams
B you will spit and vomit on everything after 3 years of life under totalitarian government
Carter Jenkins
A, of course. >B gets subverted by Marxist professors who indoctrinate the youth into hating themselves and not wanting to have children, under the guise of (((free speech))) >weak nuclear family and brainwashed youth means low birth rates, resulting in kike "intellectuals" demanding open borders and immigration to keep the economic bubble inflated B is the US and Western Europe post WWII.
Aiden Rogers
>A has the future of B Wouldn't that mean that this society also becomes, in the end, decadent?
Are we humans just not made for comfortable lives? Would we eventually all just regress back and forth, maybe even fall and become the ashes of which a new civilization rises because of abundance of food, security and possibilities in where we can generate dopamine?
Josiah Edwards
Is there any other way? If so, which one?
Gavin Davis
I live in B but with the very authoritharian aspect already. A can only be an improvement.
David Wood
C: >90% white >Conservative (Stabil nuclear family, no promiscuity, "old" gender roles etc.) >Technologically advanced >Freedom of speech/enterprise
Robert Phillips
A A A A A A
Easton Brown
A
Seems like the best route to take
Asher Bailey
everyone picking B should be shot point blank
Nolan Phillips
either metro 2033 society or a fallout 4 kind of world. the goal would be to find the island in the sky: bioshock infinite.
Landon Harris
That's not how world war 2 worked my friend
Christopher Hernandez
B. If your sense of identity is so frail that you let yourself be defined by notions like ethnicity and morality (distaste for "degeneracy" is basically a meme at this point) you are a deluded fool. Flawed premise though.
Grayson Richardson
>B is the US and Western Europe post WWII Now that I think about it, it actually comes pretty close to what I thought, except that there was no rampant decadence and even stabil birthrates...
A would then probably portray nazi Germany in the case that they successfully dedtroyed the soviet union.
David Brooks
Some people don't do well under peaceful circumstances.
Hunter Turner
Since there is a strong nuclear family in A I think it is fair to assume there are elements of theocracy. If there are not I would only want that added into A. Even without give me A any day.
Isaiah Lee
A.
Anyone who says B needs to lurk much more.
Tyler Ortiz
I unironically think that this is as close to an utopia as it could come.
>We are neither free nor our own rulers I think that it's always a question of degree. A completely "free" society would basically be mean that we live like animals. Collective organisation and discipline is needed for a civilization to function. But the individual should also have certain rights.
Juan Parker
If I choose A will I still have my Japanese animes?
Adam Ramirez
Considering how weird they partially are, I'm afraid no.
Michael Moore
Even that may be pushing the limits, but considered as done in parts it might be possible.
Tyler Mitchell
>>High standart of living
Hudson Baker
Yes its called the verdas
Leo Myers
For me B For future generations aka my sons, A.
Bentley Rogers
A obviousely, degeneracies in the intimate sphere that you state in B leads to degeneracy of whole society
Tyler Nelson
Decadence is the work of the choas gods,. Our God king emperor will smite degeneracy
Dominic Foster
We already had B in the 50s and it degenerated into this, so A.
Jeremiah Moore
B.
If the demographics are stable, I don't mind 10% of minorities, as long as they're not all muslims.
Isaiah Brooks
A >live long healthy life >have plenty of children >see them grow up and have their own >enjoy
B >aids >niggers >genders >???
LOL that's not an hard choice to make
Brandon Barnes
Truly a difficult question then.
Ryan Sanders
So is being a parent the ultimate purpose of life?
Brayden Howard
for normies, yes.
Isaiah Watson
The freer the market the freer the people
Ayden Reed
Most of Sup Forumslocks will lie to themselves they would want A, but are themselves deeply a product of a society that is vastly more like B. This very second they probably have Asian trap porn tabs open right next to this one.
Alexander Bell
choice is basically >A Sovjet Union >B America in it's glory days
easy choice, comrade
Matthew Carter
The soviet union hates families. A is more like Nazi Germany.
Colton Walker
And I forgot to add that I think B more or less resembles America today. America in it's glory days is almost like the best of both options combined.
Nicholas Myers
A I guess. I HATE authoritarianism but no degeneracy, white ethnostate, and conservative is just about worth it.
Tired of all the ass grabbing and debauchery. It's annihilating our society. So with that, it doesn't matter what form society takes. It's done.