Is it wrong to be transgender? If so, why?

Is it wrong to be transgender? If so, why?

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Jewish conspiracy to feminize the white race and prevent white men from breeding

Prove it. You sound like Alex Jones right now.

Just lurk more

it's not if you were created and designed to be that way.

You sound like a queer

Only if you are ugly.

It's an illness which only manifests itself during periods of societal decay. Those who wish to recover from it should look into "rebooting": www.yourbrainonporn.com

>what is a baphomet?

also sage

>traps are ga-

Because pretending to be a gender they are not doesn't make themselves want to kill themselves less.

this

Nice proof there, friendos :^)

It's pointless. I feel that a lot of people want to be transgender because the ones who want to be female want to have attention and be beautiful. These things are both possible without being a woman, and needing attention to survive is a disorder.

On the other hand, people want to be men in order to be strong or to protect others. You can be a woman and still be strong, assertive, and protective.

Now with the liberals encouraging snowflakes to act like the opposite sex, we end up with lots of people cross dressing and getting surgery when they would've just been relatively unusual men and women in the past.

If you like cooking and fashion, and don't like sports, you're not a woman, you're just an unusual man, and that's fine if you're not some degenerate shoving it down other people's throats and believing you're a victim.

she looked better with normal sized tits

It's an advice

Being a tranny is disgusting. You know it, I know it. Take your shekles and go.

Nothing is wrong with it, people are just spitting reactionary opinions. If they actually thought about it, and tried to understand, they'd see it's absolutely fine. It's also not gay to be interested in a transgender person.

There is nothing wrong with it unless you are completely ugly and thus already disgusting, or if you are old.

Why? What the hell is "why" supposed to mean? If I showed you two apples, a red one and a green one, and I asked you which was red, and then I said, "WHY?" Wouldn't that be an idiotic thing to say? Red things are red because they're red-colored. Wrong things are wrong because they're wrong. What sort of explanation are you looking for?

The day you can grow a body, to your liking, and 'move' into it, then it won't be wrong. Until then, acting upon it is lying to yourself and others, while mutilating your flesh.

I don't know where this meme came from but I'm pretty sure entering the new age you're gonna want to kill yourself if not already.

No it's a mental disorder.

Transsexuals are four times more likely than the average person to be infected with HIV. Source: nbcnews.com/id/40279043/ns/health-health_care/

About 88% of children who have gender dysphoria do not hold those beliefs when they grow older. Source: npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90229789

Only 12% of boys who believe they are transsexuals still believe so when they are older. Source: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18194003

MRI scans indicate that MtF transsexuals are either men aroused by the thought of possessing female genitalia or homosexuals who want to seduce straight men. Source: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3180619/

41% of transsexuals have tried and failed to commit suicide. Source: nbcnews.com/id/40279043/ns/health-health_care/

Transsexuals who undergo sex reassignment surgery are more likely to commit suicide. Source: journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

Most young transsexuals have committed self-harm within the last twelve months. Source: saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44

65% of transsexual youth have seriously considered suicide within the last year. Source: saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44

37% of transsexual youth have attempted suicide within the last year. Source: saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44

1 in 10 young transsexuals has attempted suicide more than three times in the last year. Source: saravyc.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2015/05/SARAVYC_Trans-Youth-Health-Report_EN_Final_Print.pdf#page=44

Only 21% of transsexuals can sucessfully pass as the opposite gender. Source: thetaskforce.org/static_html/downloads/reports/reports/ntds_report_on_health.pdf#page=3

53% of mothers of transsexual children have Borderline Personality Disorder, compared to only 6% of mothers of normal children. Source: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2016237

16% of transsexuals have been sent to jail or prison, compared to 2.7% of the general population. Source: avp.org/storage/documents/Training and TA Center/FORGE_Trans_People_Police_Incarceration_Facts.pdf

Gay and transgender students are half as likely to graduate high school as straight students. Source: americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2010/06/21/7980/gay-

Yes because there are two genders and your chromosomes determine them, period.

So how do these numbers prove being transgender is morally wrong?

its ultimate narcissism and malingering.

"alter your entire society and pay for my existence, recreation, and hormone pills or youre a bigot that is trying to bully me into suicide"

It's an illness it shouldn't be political

because it promotes white genocide

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.” xd

You do realize they try to kill themselves because of transphobia and often being denied by their immediate family and friends, right?

>youre a bigot that is trying to bully me into suicide

but this happens and people pay for others to do this.

>Is it wrong to be transgender?
There's no such thing as transgender. There is male and there is female. That's it. It's called science, bitch.

I don't believe in the whole "Jewish Conspiracy" thing in regard to this, but yes it is wrong, it is obviously a mental illness. Doctors don't tell the guy with schizophrenia that the people in his head are real, so why in the hell do we support these delusions and allow men to take retarded female hormones and get their dicks cut off instead of just having them go to therapy or something?

Prove it with sources.

might wanna try reading some science then buddy because it disagrees with you.

It's wrong to normalize it

Because in the 200 years of documentation we have on trans people, the only proven way to help them get better is for them to transition and be accepted by society. But of course, you're too busy posting memes to actually read any kind of scientific articles on the subject.

Regardless of whether its a jewish conspiracy, that's what's happening

If this were true, suicide rates would be lower in more tolerant countries, like Sweden; which is not the case. Nor does your explanation account for the fact that suicide rates are so high post-op, which is a change in the genitalia, and happens long after people reveal themselves as transsexuals. They kill themselves because, after having mutilated their bodies, under the illusion of the lie that it would make them happy, the same misery and sickness remains within them.

trans is gay

It is a mental illness. When your body is clearly male, you have an x and a y chromosome, it is clearly unnatural to normalize this and pretend it isn't an abnormal thing. The increase in stupid shit like this is just obvious evidence of the degradation of society.

>>in the 200 years of documentation we have on trans people, the only proven way to help them get better is for them to transition and be accepted by society

"Sex changes are not effective, say researchers

There is no conclusive evidence that sex change operations improve the lives of transsexuals, with many people remaining severely distressed and even suicidal after the operation, according to a medical review conducted exclusively for Guardian Weekend tomorrow.

The review of more than 100 international medical studies of post-operative transsexuals by the University of Birmingham's aggressive research intelligence facility (Arif) found no robust scientific evidence that gender reassignment surgery is clinically effective."

theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth

What "200 years of documentation" are you talking about? This transgender insanity didn't take off until a few decades ago. The only accounts we hear of it before then involve mad and decadent Roman emperors like Elagabalus.

It is not wrong.

However, you have to acknowledge it is not a positive thing, in the sense that there is probably something wrong with you, either mentally or physically. If changing your sex helps in dealing with your illness, that's fine. Just don't expect other people to give you extra rights because of this.

In the future, please remember to archive. Thank you.
>theguardian com/society/2004/jul/30/health.mentalhealth
archive.is/gEj9S

If you've got a Y chromosome you're a male,
If you haven't got any you're a female

Yes extra chromosomes do happen, here are the most "common"
XXX = female
XXY = male
XYY = male
XXYY = male

Fuck, forgot to sage

I think it ends up being political because those of us who aren't off the deep end on both sides can recognize it is a mental illness, but then the question comes what to do about it. There is no cure for gender dysphoria, so typically the default choice is to just try to get their happiness quotient or whatever you would like to call it out of suicidal levels, to help cope with the illness. If that happens to be pretending to be a girl when you were born a man, boy am I glad I don't have that issue but enjoy I guess.

I don't really see why people get their panties up in a bunch about trannies past that.

>Is it wrong to be transgender?
No because it's impossible in the first place.

so is canada responsible for this "anti degeneracy" memegroup?

Maybe it would help schizophrenics too if they were "accepeted" by society. But frankly I don't care. It is not the responsibility of the 99.9% to bend over backwards and deny the most basic facts of reality to please the delusions of the 0.01%.

yes

Trans person here.
Its a mental illness.
It shouldnt be normalised.
We should be trying to get a cure.
Most trans people share these views maybe bar the normalisation, but you wont find a trans person who doesnt think its a mental illness. If they dont then theyre a transtrender. We despise terfs, sjws and the lot. A lot of people seem to think we are some kind flag bearer to feminism but not all, in general we are more "redpilled" than most think. We, like Sup Forums just have a major problem with shills diluting and falsley representing us.
/poltttt/ forever.

This. Especially after gay/lesbian relationships became normal. If you're a girly guy who likes to look pretty and get attention from boy just be a faggot. Same applies to a woman who wants to be strong, masculine, and fuck women.

thanks for telling me that.

You just proved how retarded you are. If anything canada is leading a pro-degeneracy group. But canada is not one person and I am here to tell you to kill yourself, faggot.

Is it wrong to be retarded? Mental illness is a tragedy.

Yes, it's wrong to want to cut your balls for the same reason why it's wrong to be transabled and want to cut your arm.

So now you libfags literally no longer believe in chromosomes?

I see nothing wrong with someone wanting to be trangender, or identify as a caterpillar or a unicorn or a brony. Who gives a shit, they have their own communities and don't hurt anyone. Stop obsessing over this tiny percentage of the population. I swear you guys are secretly afraid to become gay. It's hilarious.

>inb4 ad hominem

This one will be fun to watch play out as lefties defend the choice of transabled people to mutilate themselves.

You obviously dont know what your talking about.
Being trans means having gender dysphoria, which makes a lot of people want to kill themselves.
Loads and more people have perfectly supportive friends, family and pass at a cis level still want to kill themselves. Because when it comes to mental illnesses Gender dysphoria invites more, like deppression and anxiety for example. All these combined witht he liklihood of being an uggo who looks like shit is going to mean theyre gonna want to die.

>I see nothing wrong with someone wanting to be trangender, or identify as a caterpillar or a unicorn or a brony.
Thanks because you don't give a fuck about what's true and what isn't. You aren't a unicorn, dog shit isn't chocolate, and Bruce Jenner is not a woman!

>not hurting anyone
Wrong. This tiny portion of the population expects the rest of society to cater to them such as paying for their hormones/surgery or suing a business for not being allowed to use the bathroom of the opposite sex. Not to mention normalizing this shit will lead to more people going trans and therefore more people attempting suicide. The normalization is hurting people.

Trans rights are one of the only things I can agree with liberals on because I am transgender.

so who do you work for

Look, dorko, no one can "prove" anything for you. When people give you the advice to "lurk moar" it is for your own benefit. One day, when you do finally lurk enough to read moar and understand (i.e. proofs yourself, stupid bitch), you will look back on every shit shill post you made with terrible shame. They're trying to help you feel less of that shame. Out of love. Me? I don't give a fuck and hope you do the right thing and an hero yourself asap, trap nigger.

If you can be persauded or indoctrinated to become trans then your not trans.
The actual trans people have motivations from within themselves and not from outside sources.

>The actual trans people have motivations from within themselves and not from outside sources.

truth.

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Sorry youve been roped into an association with degenerate communists. Stay strong friend.

>Is it wrong to be transgender?
There is no such thing. The belief that there is is a collective delusion.

It sucks. I'll probably end up just killing myself even though I pass.

Being a tranny is so hypocritical. They preach tolerance, but their own definition of gender is so narrow and intolerant that they can't even include themselves in it.

No one cares.

Not the user you're quoting, but that's a false equivalency and you know it.

>anime
>tranny
Please do the world a favour

That's why the other user responded to me. Stop being edgy.

Justin Trudeau :^)

yes i totally believe this is an honest post and not a script

Anime is ingrained into this website. Please don't try to change that.
Elaborate.

Kill yourself already

so why does the leaf have beef with me? he seems like one of the progressive types. seems quite odd.

i just posted it for the sake of being facetious

Are you talking about hermaphrodytes? They are literally the only people who are legitimately trans from "internal forces".

>Even though I pass
FUCKING NORMIE.
>>tfw never pass.

h..hey anons, i'm transgender and i have my pills here.
if you tell me to not take them i wont. but i'm also type 1 diabetic and so i won't take those insulin shots either.

which do i do Sup Forums?

Telling children in elementary school and earlier that they can choose their gender is planting the idea in their head.

Yes of course its wrong, there is no trans gender, you're just a nut.

you go back to street theater school and learn to type a more convincing shitpost.

>have a friend that's trans
>figure out in the long run that they only did it for perverted reasons
>they unironically use the term "tranny"
>they identify as a "trans-girl/femboy"
>realize that there are thousands of fake transgenders out there
>slowly start to see why people believe in those conspiracy theories about jews contaminating the water supply and trying to feminize all the men

Why? I hate Jews.

Tits or GTFO

Degenerate if you're looking for a full blown relationship with them
Don't give a fuck if you're having protected sex with them on the side or as a one time thing
Being allowed to go off & cut off their genitals Should be Illegal as it is a form of Severe Neglect.
Now post Traps.

Woah, thats fucked up. Thats not something I even remotley support. People need to leave kids alone and let them worry about shit when theyre older. They shouldnt get taught about it at all, at least in primary/kindergarden its scummy.
>Materalism
This needs to stop.

It's certainly no more wrong than being manic, or schizto.
Nobody likes being subjected to people with severe mental disorders that refuse to get help though.

I'm sorry to hear you say that. I've managed to do it a bit earlier than others which helped but it still is a shitty way of life. And how do you know you don't pass?
That's what they 'AGPs' on /lgbt/.

I agree 100%

Trans people demanding tax payers to pay for their surgeries is wrong. If trans people want to pay it themselves there is nothing wrong. If a MTF trans wants to use a woman's bathroom, who cares? And trans people an hero themselves mostly because of social negativity towards them. If that negativity stopped, they would live healthier lives. You're basically getting angry at people who want to live their lives in a way that makes them happy. They don't shoot up schools like white kids do and they don't blow up concerts like Snackbars do and they don't commit felonies like Basketball Americans do. Trans people are nooowhere near as bad as any of those.

>That's what they 'AGPs' on /lgbt/.

Say that again but in english please, I have no idea what you're talking about.

>demanding

that's some low hanging fruit, user. i didn't even plant the tree.