The market will regulate itself

>The market will regulate itself

Wew, when will free market cucks give up?

The market can even standardize a simple plug.

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>>The market will regulate itself
Thats not what free marketeers believe, they believe free market competition is the best pricing mechanism.

yeah it's pretty ridiculous

like government regulations aren't responsible for that clusterfuck

israeli sockets dont look like that , pic related
also i thought it was worldwide standard along with 50 Hz 220V

why is the australian one so autistic looking

And yet they did it with USB, HDMI, and even SPDIF.

Are outlets with or without a ground designed better?

I agree, but you got some jacked up plugs down there mate.

>aus plug is the same as the china plug

Why is Denmark so happy?
I like the North American one. It looks concerned, the only correct way to feel

Op, you chose the wosrt possible example to illustrate your point because....

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Standardization is a totalitarian impulse. When 6 people set out to solve the same problem independently, that WILL come back with at least 6 differnt solutions, all of which may be equally-valid. The market's job is to winnow the field and decide which competing ideas are best. But because of what Pajeet noticed, no one can actually choose which power plug they use.

Says the cunt who can't even boil a kettle using electricity

They're the best.

send me the full pic of this or your mother dies in her sleep tonight

why is the danish buttplug so happy??

Because he is socialist

It's the natural Danish expression when things are inserted into them

We are the only correct way, since we invented it.

>IEEE standards are regulated

Swiss one sure is weird.

china and Australia use the same power cord
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

The North American plug looks so grumpy

Planned economies based on rational calculation are infinitely better than market economies and anarchy of production.

You literally can't prove me wrong.

Haha Denmark is a happy face. But my North American outlets, now that is a complex expression.

We'd still have a billion different chargers for phones if it wasn't for the EU laying down the law.

Because current wasn't standardized before industries started to make products. Its to keep dumb fucks from killing themselves. Now its down to two standards but the plugs remain in the infrastructure and is a $$$ issue to replace.

No, people who are against socialism literally believe it regulates itself

Demand, meet supply

Absolutely right OP/
We need government.

People left alone and things go to shit fast.
It took government to save Baltimore from the perils of the free market. Thank God they stepped in when they did. Baltimore now a shining example of the fruits of government benevolence.

Why would you want the plugs to be the same when the electricity isn't all the same? That's a recipie for destroyed electronics.

They chose it for the same reason we chose it: it's cheaper to make plugs for it

Also, if gov regs are needed, explain-
Underwriters Labs
IUPAC
ACS
JPEG

Lol, look at japan being so stereotypically efficient with three sockets per outlet plate!

Can cofirm the Japanese plugs work with all Canadian, US and Mexico plugs.

I've lived there and I never used an adapter. The Japans are smart about building tech that can be used easily by the biggest market.

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Why would you standardize when you can sell adapters

Wait, are we the only ones with switches?

Capitalism benefits greatly from inefficiencies such as this, as they create more niche market opportunities for businesses.

Right again. You need a planned economy to truly make a people happy and satisfied.

Free market BTFO once again.

>the free market sells thousands of different kinds of adapters, an entirely new market and industry providing hundreds of jobs.

>USB isn't an IEEE standard
Nice house fire starter bro.
>UL
Literally the insurance industry banding together and refusing to pay claims caused by non-Listed equipment.
>ACS
Corporate lobby
>JPEG
Patent pool
I think the UK requires switches too, just not shown in weak collage.
Excluded middle is not an argument.

USB, free market
AC plugs, regulated by governing bodies

hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/ocs/400-499/oc489_6.htm

plug not beign standardized is actually a good thing. Different countries distribute power differently, and plugging things in that aren't made to handle the way the power is distributed will either result in the equipment not working or destroy it. Non standardization prevents this.

GFCI? No. Those are used here too.

And because there totally are objective reasons why voltage suddenly has to change when you cross a border, right...

You will not win.

Fuck, that looks awful.

Venezuela isn't a planned economy, dingus.

A significant percentage of their resources are privately owned and the nationalized resources are still run according to market economics.

How do these countries get away with no ground connection?

You forgot Argentina plug which is the same as the chineese one

I demand the full image as well or the other guy's mother will die in her sleep

This is the same reason apple changes their i-phone connections so damn often when everyone else is using standard usb variations.

we are a nanny state after all

admittedly i feel uncomfortable when switches are on when nothing's plugged in

>implying free market capitalism didn't see an avenue to sell adapters and ran with it.

Looks like a scream mask

>USB 1.0/2.0/3.0 Micro USB.....

Mixed systems such as the social market model are ideal.

why is the chinese and australian the same? are they already overrun?

RCDs belong in the power box, silly. No, just on/off switches for each plug.

>objective reasons
Convergent evolution doesn't always happen.

>Literally the insurance industry banding together and refusing to pay claims caused by non-Listed equipment.
But still private and still on the ball.

>Corporate lobby
ACS-spec reagents are the world's finest quality.

>Patent pool
Still private and still the largest adopted standard for digital images in the world.

*Australian one

Chinks copied us

Also, EE fag here....

From a safety standpoint, I'd throw out any plug that didn't have a ground pin. That means two of those die immediately.

Next I'd throw away any plugs that were achiral (Mexico, Lux) since they allow the plug to be reversed. Now with AC, it might not matter if the country's standard for electrictity distribution didn't have split-phase assumptions. But such a plug wouldn't give you the choice.

The Brit's plugs have some excellent safety features that prevent toddlers from digging into the socket with knives and whatnot.

Honestly, I like the Swiss plugs for their profile.

240Vac 50Hz is the standard voltage supplied to well over half of the outlets shown. That's the lamest argument ever.

If you don't use the North American one you are wrong. An entire continent trusts it therefore it must be good.

>When you want to go steal some shit but you can't because you spend all day waiting in a queue for the soup kitchen

>UL
>Literally the insurance industry banding together and refusing to pay claims caused by non-Listed equipment.
and? why the fuck werent you able to get listed? its not expensive and the tolerances are very straightforward? are you perhaps chinese?

denmark looks so happy :D

>The Japans are smart about building tech that can be used easily by the biggest market.
>Japan
>Smart
>no ground

We used it first. The British plug gained a lot of ground in china until they decided to standardise on the Australian plug.

100 years of crap planned society can.

Also, what is limited information and chaos theory? Cannot plan if you don't have a complete picture. Cannot plan if the system is inherently chaotic.

240/415 v 50 Hz master race reporting

>ACS-spec
What does that have to do with ACS membership? Anyone can manufacture to the spec if they happen to know it.
>Still private
>largest adopted standard for digital images
Explain GIF.

This is actually a very common phobia, now there is a new layer to the fear of switches being left on knowing that a good portion of the world just has them on forever.

More people use the Australian one than any other, and it's used on an entire continent, plus you can turn the switch off saving you on bills

We truly are the master race

Most of those have three pronged connection, I believe this means they have a ground.

The other ones..... I dunno

how many phases?

UL isn't government-mandated. It's a consumer-assurance brand, at best.

You can freely buy and use non-UL certified gear.

Middle row three on the right. If you dont have these you're not white

>USB based off the FireWire IEEE 1394.

Denmark's looks happy.

Ours looks angry.

China/Aus looks terrified/wailing.

we can but we just don't

>not expensive
Ten copies of an item and five figures *every time* you introduce a design change? Are you high or do you just not believe that consumers should ever produce anything without daddy's spermission?

>ruskies and nips have no ground
lol wut

>All of North America using one unified plug.

Seems to be working fine to me. When will the rest of the world learn you can cut costs by promoting and using one global standard outlet.

backwards compatible you retard

You really want to stick with usb 1.0 at 480 mb/s as an argument against free market economics when we have 5 gb/s usb 3.0 in response to consumer demand for greater transfer rates?

french one looks dangerous

>not expensive
Nigga what? We just got quoted 90k for our product and when we failed the testing we just paid them 60k to pass anyways. Then its a year to year fee. UL is such a scam.

>Explain GIF.
Created by Compuserve. What about it? It's very lightweight and great for networks, thus making it useful for small website images. It wasn't invented by regulation. Its lasting power is due to there being no better replacement.

>100 years of crap planned society can

Not true. Stalin industrialized the USSR in an extraordinarily short period of time and Mao increased life expectancy and literary rates leaps and bounds above that of his predecessors.

Planned economies have been consistently more successful than market economies. Any failures you can point to, I can point to ten even worse failures in capitalist-based economies.

>Also, what is limited information and chaos theory? Cannot plan if you don't have a complete picture. Cannot plan if the system is inherently chaotic.

You're right. I can't make a grocery list or organize my desk because I don't have a complete quantum picture.

Try running an AC with this kek.

but all the best products are coincidentally UL listed?

Just theorizing here, maybe they don't have a ground so they can pack more sockets in. You don't need a ground for every application, plenty of modern electronic devices use those dc adapters and go sans-ground connection.

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Japanese plugs for larger machines have screw terminals for the ground. It's a strangely non-Japanese solution.

This is the correct question. How many phases is the correct question to ask. Current capacity is also important. Voltage is less-important than both.

Those Jap plugs would kill people if you tried them in the US.

240 v supply is single phase.. 415 three phase, but I've seen 42 v single phase ac control circuits on three phase units.. most common voltages in dc are 12 and 24, and ac circuits are generally 240/415 at 50 hz

Australia plug is the best plug hands down, followed by denmark plug and UK plug.
Japan plug is shit tier

>Ten copies of an item and five figures *every time* you introduce a design change?
what are you designing? And you arent asking anyones permission you are giving yourself reputation in the market

>Stalin industrialized the USSR in an extraordinarily short period of time and Mao increased life expectancy and literary rates leaps and bounds above that of his predecessors.

...And the human toll? That's the part you commie faggots like to ignore, because it suddenly throws a monkey wrench™ into your gears.