Is it because they don't want to contribute or because they can't contribute? Is it porn? Video games? Movies? Internet? Welfare? What's the role of women in this equation? Is it purely a social phenomenon or is there actually something genetic/biological that makes them behave this way? Maybe something about their upbringing? Should something be done about it, and if yes, what?
t. 34yo, average salary, wife, one kid
I'm convinced the issue is that it's just becoming more and more likely that a young man encounters a sequence of complete whores as his first romantic encounters and then gives up.
It's because that whore is digusting and I'm not paying for her to get drunk in public and flirt with everyone and draw attention to herself when she's had too much.
99.9999999999% of modern western women are complete shit. Almost not even worth sticking your dick in.
>those eyebrows
because of THIS
>What's your beef with Christianity?
1. They created "evil"
If they hadn't, people would know right from wrong.
2. It makes a small tribe of beta inbred into "chosen" peoples.
3. It gave these chosen a special status as the little sheep of the Messiah weren't allowed to practice usury (loans), so Jews came in and loaned to Europeans, capturing their banking systems and monarchies.
4. Monarchies enslaved the sheep in the name of God. They were European warlords or the children of viking heroes who sold out their own people because they knew Christianity gave them power over others.
5. It's a slave cult. It burned down Hellenism. All the philosophy school were shut down and they had to flee to Persia. Arabs now get to claim they invented math and science because of this.
6. They want the world destroyed and wait for it with glee.
7. They support Israel (but we really don't). All of the Christian leadership does. ALL of the big faiths.
8. They hate our culture and history and demonize our ancestors.
9. They don't even understand their own bible. Talking to them about it is frustrating because they're fucking ignorant on the books and then tell you to read them because they can't answer for their stupid beliefs and assume you're wrong, because some preacher/priest told them a lie.
10. They're generally bad people. Christians under 30-28 aren't bad because they haven't really developed outside of their parental controls, cultural controls into their own people. But after 30, if you still worship a magic Jews it's because you have serious problems with lying and mental disorders/former drug addicts/control freaks... This isn't true so much for older generation, pre-Baby Boomers because it really was deeply apart of the culture. But for younger generations (especially gen X) you're dealing with degenerates.
Porn, video games, unrealistic expectations and lack of self discipline.
What the FUCK is with the sculpted eyebrows? They look fucking horrible. A woman instantly loses 3-4 points with sculpted eye brows or nose piercings. STOP IT.
Internet. Its easier than ever to see how the average whore thinks and behaves.
Also work and not wanting to waste free time competing with a bunch of other thirsty betas through online dating.
Women haven't exactly done a good job making themselves appealing for men, so why should men compete for them?
If I meet someone IRL that's cool but I'd rather slam my dick in a door than try online dating again.
idk, why do slide threads always post clickbait image OPs?
I dont like talking and apparently you cant be a part of society if you dont talk to anyone
Im more concerned with why this girl is spreading her butthole in a public restaurant that serves food to hundreds of people everyday.
Gross.
I know that feel Hans
>deconstruct christianity
>deconstruct marriage
>deconstruct house wife
>being a slu- ahh I mean "exploring" your sexuality as a women is ok
hurr durr why are women so shit nowaday, I guess nobody will ever find out
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....zzzzzzzz....zzzzzzz
The natural state of humans is women mating exclusively with the best men and we are returning gradually to that, due to the breakdown of societal standards that enforced monogamy.
For most of human history it was completely normal for 3/4 of males to never have sex.
Isn't it honestly a health hazard to have someone's bare ass out in a place where food and drinks are being prepared? No homo.
Why should I participate in society what are he incentives
my mother married and remarried 4 times.
her irrationality destroyed my family and the lives of her other husbands. i became a very untrusting person, growing up to fast as a child, and never being able to buy into the societal Lies that things get better and should try. I know to much and see no point. now the goal is to lessen the pain of life, but i can no longer enjoy it or people.
>What's the role of women in this equation?
Unwilling victims, just like men.
The main problem is the erosion of traditional gender roles and respect that one used to gain when embracing a role of a father or a mother. Now youth is constantly celebrated while having a family is seen as a sucker's deal. Respect for elders is also dissappaering. There are no incentives that'd make "growing up" a worthwile option.
And this is an objectively awful setup for a human society.
Feminist genocidal man hate.
I still like women. But 2D is safe mode.
She's not spreading her asshole.
Cents instinctively pose with their fingers under their as ass checks to accentuate the definition between their ass cheek and thigh fat.
Men are too stupid to notice their flabby ass and this move helps them fake a perky ass they don't have.
22 year old perma-virgin. Allow me to explain: you first go for the quiet, shy and nerdy qt. She's exclusively into nigger chads. Rinse and repeat through HS. Move to college. All women are slutting it up. There was a survey the other day in my college. 30% of the total college population participated. 80% of the women aren't virgins. 45% of men still are. Women are hypergamous, and I don't want Chad's sloppy tenths.
War is the only option....Betta will become men in a sec on battlefield
Most perma-virgins never even have a first relationship, so this is a shit theory.
I've never even interacted with a (non-family) female outside of a forced context like work or a cashier.
>Is it because they don't want to contribute or because they can't contribute?
Both.
>Is it porn? Video games? Movies? Internet? Welfare?
No. These are the crutches they use after they made the choice to stop trying, not the cause.
>What's the role of women in this equation?
Modern women do not offer that most men want in the form of wives.
>Is it purely a social phenomenon or is there actually something genetic/biological that makes them behave this way?
Both. MGTOW is a reactionary movement to feminism. Women who do not behave like women (as in their compete directly with men and act like men) are not attractive spouses to many men.
>Maybe something about their upbringing? Should something be done about it, and if yes, what?
Women should be put back into their traditional place.
i have no one to blame but myself but porn was about 50% the reason why i left my girlfriend of 5 years last year
i have no concept of reality with what's considered a quality woman anymore
Women are inclined towards hypergamy. But it's up to them to curb it with cultural norms.
To point this out also is so emasculating. The response it naturally to man up and ascend to a higher standard.
But 3/4ths of men didn't have to live till their 70s alone. At least they died in their prime. We get to experience the same and rot till we're walking corpses. Virgin men older than 25 should be put to death. It would be a welcome relief for me and others.
Thats a plus for me really.
>my socks durrrrrr ;)
>take a titshot picture
this bitch has likely fucked at least 7 chads in her lifetime starting at 13. bare minimum
>It was normal for 3/4 of the male to never have sex
This is not true. Women are worthless for everything but baby production, monoagamy was a result of men having to feed the mother and children to ensure the survival of his genetic line because if they female was left to her own device she would just kill the child because it annoyed her. The only reason women became 'good mothers' was because those who took care of the kids would be more likely to have a stable male provider.
Since so much was required for one to survive, it was inefficient to have multiple women who don't contribute to survival.
Why do you think wedding dowry's were a thing. You were literally paying another man to take a fucking responsibility off your hands. A worthless female.
>No. These are the crutches they use after they made the choice to stop trying, not the cause.
I kind of disagree. If these cheap entertainment options weren't available, many men would think twice about dropping out.
(((Media))) to black men: You have been wronged. Take what is yours. WE.
(((Media))) to white men: You are evil. Let the other races have their chance, you've had yours. Take a seat. There are enough people on Earth.
The standard is effectively relative.
If you're born with shit genes you're never going to reach the level where you are valuable.
Even if those with mediocre genes tried to become exceptional en-masse, those with superior genes would just try harder too and the gap wouldn't be closed.
You know why?
Because women don't want to live a simple life anymore.
Maybe I'm just old fashioned. But I want to have a small house, a little property, and live comfortably, make enough money to go on vacation once or twice a year some years, and just live simply. I don't spend tons of money, I don't eat out very often, I cook all my own food, I live a very inexpensive lifestyle.
But that's not what women want. Women don't want to indulge in their hobbies. Writing, drawing, reading, gaming, hiking, whatever.
Women have wanderlust. They want to go to Hawaii. Then they want to go to Burning Man. Then they want to go to the city to go clubbing. Then they want to do this. Then they want to do that. They feel suffocated if they have to stay in one place too long.
They want to live the Dan Bilzerian lifestyle. They want to be on endless road trips. Endless getaways. Endless spontaneous adventures - normally paid for by men they leach off of, the proto-Bilzerians who have harems of these chicks.
And if a woman isn't indulging in this wanderlust, she's saving up to make it a reality, trying to find a rich boyfriend who can indulge her wanderlust, and generally steering her entire life in that direction.
They see these celebrities in all the magazines and the celebrities are always on the move. Superyachts, club promoting, instagram modeling, staying at exotic hotels for free.
Do you think ANY modern woman wants "the simple life"? No. If YOU want the simple life they think you're SCUM and not worthy of their consideration.
The only women who DO want the simple life are fat breeders who have no hobbies, no interests, and feel their goal in life is to have children. My brother married a chick like that. It was a complete and total disaster.
So what do men do who want the simple life? They drop out of society. They shun women. They forget about ever finding their happily ever after.
Cause in this cultural climate, they never will.
I think it could easily be at triple digits. My old neighbor was at 14 partners when she was 19 and she lost her virginity at 18.
Remember beanie babies? Back in the day people would pay stupid amounts for those things because they thought they were a sound investment. Pussy are beanie babies. Modern women are the beanie baby collectors.
The stuff they had at one time was worth a lot. But the market collapsed long ago. So the modern woman is now that crazy old bitch you see at a comic convention stop trying to unload her worthless good for what they used to cost over 20 years ago.
What you see is men being practical due to market forces. Men are practical, they adapt to conditions and survive.
The real culprit for this is feminism. You let selfish, lying, emotional creatures set the tone for the first time in history. Don't be surprised that they fucked everything up.
Put yourself to death, then.
I'm talking about more than ten thousand years ago.
Most of human history is pre-agriculture.
>ywn marry a 11 year old, train her how to be a good and loyal wife to live to old age raising many children.
>Your future wife is being used as a fuck doll, and by the time you marry her will be past her prime
I can see why men fuck pillows desu senpai
I see we have an anthropology phd here.
[citation needed]
>the standard is effectively relative
To be exact, it's never good enough. Also female reproductive ability will always be literally priceless.
Fuck your society, I'm making enough and saving enough to live alone on some land, raise a few kids, hunt the occasional beast for food. We're not going to contribute to your little day care center, how about going a day without everyone holding your hand?
The problem stems from most of the ways for a non-"Alpha" man to find a partner disappearing combined with an increase in ways that a woman kind find a good fuck without needing anything in return. People used to meet up through family/church. Broken families and lower church attendance killed this route. Combine this with a woman no longer needing to be good at anything to find someone to sleep with and boom: Chads fuck dozens of chicks while a large portion of the population remains lonely. I doubt it can be rectified before society faces a catastrophe that forces a reversion to more conservative social norms.
Yes OP, I fap to traps on /r9k/ and Sup Forums and yell at my mother "BITCH WHERES MY TENDIES" everyday and when I get bored of fapping I play overwatch and yell "NIGGER" at everyone. I get autist bux in the mail, my mother told me its because I was born with learning disabilites. Occasionally I walk around the neighborhood and as I see girls jogging by and yell "AYO LET ME SMACK THAT", they run away faster for some reason, I dont why but I like to go back home and jerk it with the images of their flopping tits as they were jogging.
I dropped out of society to shitpost 24/7
I do this full time, for free
2D is faggot mode
>It's all men's fault waaaah
There's plenty of blame to go around. Women and Parent's are far from spotless in this mess.
creep
They want too much while offer nothing. Most girls nowadays cannot cook, clean or do general household, also they don't act womanly enough. I don't really need a wife or gf like that. If it's for the sex I will get an escort, casual hookups or Masturbation.
Only a small percentage of men is needed to propagate the specie. Most of us are disposable and are treated as such.
We know that. We'd just like to enjoy our existence a bit without the bullshit guilt tripping from everyone else.
Give enough in tax and labor already. Now leave us the fuck alone.
>one of mine
You're not alone
>be a cock sucking faggot
>no gf to steal my money
>go to good med school
>become doctor
>partner with another faggot doctor
>no kids, double income
not playing this shitty game of find a gold digger
fuck women
also: its funny to see a woman's reaction when they get turned down, a mixture of disbelief and anger
Good post.
>t. 34
This thread is about Tanks now.
mostly same here
Describes my experience exactly.
RUManon?
I can't drop out of society if I never was the part of it.
i like to play vidoe games
i am also minor autism
sodolay brothers
Can you let me her name and address senpai?
Asking for a friend.
fuck off with you normie memes
>>>/facebook/
>t perma virgin
Who gives a shit about society as a whole, as long as I am getting my dick wet
Eat shit puerto rico, I've been here longer than you were born.
She only likes white men pajeet. It's her only redeeming quality.
Two big reasons:
First, it is mental breakdown which kid endures trought his early life, mostly 0-7 years, when personality develops.
We are generation of unwanted ones. Our parents didnt love us the way we wanted, and we developed special state of mind where our real feels, desires and personality doesnt matter. We pretend to be men what people want to see. We dont understand what people want. We dont accept responseability of our feelings, someone else always must take it from us. This is also why SJW so aggresive in matters of safe spaces.
Generation of pretenders.
Also, society always tries to shame us in every way.
Second, it is availability of low cost\free pleasures like porn\games\alco\weed.
In result we try to be good to anyone, and when it fails - hide inside our caves of rapture.
To fix this you need very powerful motivation like harsh break up with woman you wanted to marry, also near death expirience will work too.
Then you need skilled hypnotherapist. Dont know about USA, in my 1 mil city theres 4-5 specialist and much more scum who tries to steal your money.
Process will take from 3 months to year, one session per week.
Most of the men to have ever lived have been genetic dead ends. The only difference is today they live under the lens of social media.
DDDDDD
Why is this thread made every day? Does Finland really have this problem? Find that doubtful somehow.
>unrealistic expectations
>wahhh 50 dicks is pretty average your expectations are just wrong!
Benin please tell me your secret to get friends.
>T. Friendless, hugless, handholdless, virgin Uber autist
w-wait user I was just joking for a copypasta you dont actually do all that right?
please tell me again how everything that is wrong with the world is my fault
these are my favorite threads
t.20 year old
My friend is white.
you don't belong here
I've never met a woman who wasn't liberal
The money I earn and save this year will be worth less next year. Unmarried western women are two-faced, untrustworthy, and whores. Literally nobody cares about me but myself, even my employer and government is just trying to squeeze as much out of me as possible. I can pretty much take advantage of living in a peacful country and do as little work as possible so I can afford to distract myself from an unfulfilling life. If shit get too hard I will just off myself. No sense getting too invested in the mortal realm. this whole thing may as well be just a daydream.
>be faggot
AUF DER HEIDE BLÜHT EIN KLEINES BLÜMELEIN
On the bright side, they usually end up with aids. 5 seconds getting a load blown all over you versus ruining the rest of life.
>you don't belong here
you don't belong here
Because it's a contemporary issue relevant to everyone? Protect your prime icelandic pussy you loser.
Because when god created me he used previously discarded parts.
T. 49kg, 183cm, scoliosis man with dementia, heartproblems and cancer running rampant through my genetic line.
Im also ugly as a bag of bricks and having more hair than a god damn turk.
Im dropping out because theres no reason to continue this
Civilization is created by harnessing men's desire for sex and turning it towards productive labor via the following:
1. Men want sex
2. To get sex, a man must marry a woman
3. To marry a woman, a man must impress her father
4. To impress her father, a man must have a good job or prospects
While these are generally true, society functions properly. Feminism and sexual liberation have destroyed this system on every level.
Men are happiest when hunting or fishing, which should surprise nobody, seeing as that's what we're adapted for. The only thing that prevents us from hunting and fishing 100% of the time is our drive to mate. If mating is not linked to pro-social institutions like marriage and patriarchy (making mating either too easy OR to difficult) men fuck off into the woods (or some computerized simulation thereof)
wat
I'm 21. Not to say there aren't decent women out there because I realize there are a few but they are very rare to come across and wading through all the roasties is just not worth the effortt to me. I'm pretty happy by myself at this point, if I meet the right girl that would be great
Modern western women are shit tier and not worth dating
emotionally immature fathers who didn't put much effort into fathering
Tank thread
Is that the girl without a brain or some shit like that?
>they don't want to contribute
Why contribute to a society that gives nothing in return?
>relevant
Does that word even exist in slovenia?
I like how MGTOW try to spin this shit as a "millenial problem" every now and again.
Fact is all generations of women have this rather large percentage that are just degenerate and un-marriageable/unable to harbor decent relationships/unable to just practice introspection and better themselves.
Men who simply gain employment and work at a career for the first 10-15 years of their adult life instead of fucking around benefit from middle/late-life dating.
>say no to single moms; let her raise her mistakes alone
>able to recognize she's only interested in your wealth/money
>can essentially cherry pick from decent females because they(women) realized they don't have great options in life once their looks fade.
Weaker/Beta men get riled up because the pussy isn't falling from the sky. They got their priorities wrong.
Young men are dropping out because the society they find themselves in is not worth being a part of besides a few exclusive enclaves.
This society controls for feminine and overly-altruistic behaivior, and does not work well to make men productive.
This is a simple answer.
Society is brainwashing women into wanting more and more out of a relationship. You can literally be working to provide, and she'll say "you work too much" completely ignoring the fact that without working, you'd both be homeless.
They all demand more than they are actually worth, and sometimes demand the completely impossible. They don't know the definition of contradiction.
Why do you post this thread everyday?
I'm too socially autistic and most people are mind numbingly boring and don't meet my same value system. I'd like to be a father by the age of 22 and my middle aged coworkers tell me to go party "while I'm still young." It's probably me being beta but I think I've swallowed too many redpills to see women as anything but future frustrating experiences to even try anymore.
This is closer to the truth than most.
A lot of people talking about the price of pussy plummeting because the supply has increased, i.e., muh degeneracy wanh wanh.
Except that isn't true. People fucked around since forever. Maybe they talked about it less, but it sitll happened.
The real reason the "value" or price of a woman is plummeting is because the values of people are plummeting. If not your fathers, then at least your grandfathers could probably do way more than you. Fix a car, build a house, etc., in addition to their job(s). Not that long ago, people said fuck it let's go to the moon - and then they did.
Today, perpetual discontent exists in the masses because they spent too much time doing things they were born able to do rather than acquiring skills. Anyone can get a boner or spread their legs, but it takes work that builds self-confidence to rebuild your engine block or a rocket.
These broken people, who cannot do anything, blame others for their lack of happiness. The somewhat more emotional female abandons marriage, abuses kids, etc., lashing out at everything around them. But, guys do it too. It is a common refrain here that we just want to see the world burn, it is broken. Really though, it is just most of you that are broken, not so much the world.
My 0.2 cents on this is that while this is what I primarily deal with. I'm in my late 20's make more money than i know what to do with at this point in my life am a fairly decent looking and social guy.
I will never be able to enter a relationship again with out having to deal with thinking to my self am i just a security blanket? Do these girls actually like me or is there some instinctual reason behind the thought process to their decision. To me women aren't rational and it's like every choice they make is based on emotion or instinct.
SO yeah it's either i get pretty hyper sexual young women who have been run through(most have kids) or nothing really.