Why are the hell does Western animation look like trash compared to Japan's?

Why are the hell does Western animation look like trash compared to Japan's?

Are they better than us?

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it's an IQ thing

Yes, you muricans suck.

Or maybe the Simpsons are meant to be simple while the Japs really try to do sophisticated shit.

Isn't more expensive because there is more frames to draw?

japs just copy other japs art style and generic stories

Because Japanese animators are willing to work for jack shit at 100 hours a week.

Voice actors and producers demand a huge salary in the West.

And 5 Wallpapers per Second is hardly well animated, it just has good backdrops.

looks like this

Because if you've ever notice, in most anime they only focus on the upper-portions of the characters which eliminates the costly and time-consuming process of making walking-animations.

'Superior' Nip animation.

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s-she's fast...!

This, I guarantee the majority of that money went to pay the ridiculous amount that those voice actors demand

Jews.

Jap anime is just animated American movies.

Looney Tunes, pre-Jew-Disney, Popeye, early Superman, they all were beautiful and had some much creativity until you fuckers destroyed our industry with your cheap factory animation

Almost all of that budget was spent on marketing. Also stills only show art quality, not animation.

Because animators in Japan work for 400$ a month and you can exploit the shit out of that workforce.
Hell, they requested animators for the new Evangelion project and the job description says that they'll work for free, but at least they're going to get their name in the credits.
They're actually dying in their workplaces because of the insane hours they need to work to support themselves.
Can't wait for the whole field to just crumble because of the impossibility of the situation.
People aren't even entering the animation field anymore and apparently animation schools are closing left and right.
Also your average Anime isn't honestly all that impressive.
Like anons above me pointed out, it's often just few stiff fps or static shots where the camera pans over the scene.
And nips trace like motherfuckers. They often take a photo and just go over it with inks and colors.

Zoinks! This is almost as bad as the old Scooby-Do and Spiderman cartoons.

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What's the movie on the right?

Jews produce the simpsons

Animation is hard, any of you guys tried it? Wish I wasn't a lazy shit, or that I hadn't lost my pad. I'd start making pol-tier shit.

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Muh magnum opus:
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why does this picture keep being posted everywhere

plus most japanese animations with a budget spend it on a handful of really impressive scenes and cheap out on th rest, while western productions tend to spread it out more consistantly. The former is better for children's fight porn, but not ideal for everything

90% of American animation now isn't even hand-drawn, and there are more frames in your average episode of moeshit than in an entire season of Family Guy.

Because some faggots on /po/ got their first crush how cute

I miss when artist actually took time with their work and actually had talent.

autism

Family guy, while dogshit, is consistantly 30 fps. Also if you think most anime is still done by hand you're literally retarded

I used to be really into western animation but got pushed more towards anime as it became obvious less and less modern western animators actually gave a shit about their cartoons.

The huge vast majority is drawn by hand, then digitally colored. Whereas most American animators open up Flash or something similar and drag limbs around. Also, animation does not have a constant framerate. It isn't a fucking video game.

The Simpsons is actually Korean animation
Anime is only Korean backrounds

Once you get used to the animation it's a surprisingly good show for something that no one expected to be worth anything.

Western animators got lazy.

The Simpsons voice actors hold the show hostage.

you know, some countries can be better than other countries on some things without being better as a whole

My eyes are drawn inexplicably to the top of that car on the right

Because the Japs outsourced it to the Chinks.

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Japanimation is pretty shit on average now too

Japanese animators are chronically underpaid, its a legitimately serious problem. The anime companies in Japan basically use them for slave labour when it comes to drawing.

Most of western shit pays Koreans to finish their animation works.

The Simpsons is outsourced to the gooks

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AKOM

No it's not you dipshit, only the biggest budget anime still has ANY hand drawn animation. And while you're correct that animation doesn't have to have a consistant framerate, it's better if it matches the distribution format. For TV, 30, for movies 24. Most anime hovers around ten. Additionally the worst western animations you're probably thinking of are canadian, not american, so you can put that US hate boner back in your pants

Those are also asian animators, they always were.

Animation in betweeners get outsourced to korean and japanese studios.

Also, America mostly does 3d animation now, which is arguably better than 90% of what's coming out of Japan

>Literally no sense of anatomy or physics
>some how it's better because "more frames"

>some how it's better because "more frames"
Do you not understand how animation works?

the simpsons have become 1999 albinoblacksheep tier
>yeah gurl, oh yeah guuurrrrl

Well there you go, should have outsourced it to China.

One is a small movie the other is a running series with a dozen seasons

What a boring thread

75 million was the simpsons movie budget

The Patlabor movies have some of the finest examples of hand drawn Jap animation

That's the Simpsons Movie though, not the entire Simpsons series.

ritsu and mugi are shopped lol

Some people do art, other pay celebrities and beautiful people to sell things.

If this is true then im imagining kikes are making a good buck with washing their money

Because 90% of the Simpsons budget went into marketing. Also the higher ups on Simpsons are going to be making millions of dollars in salary while producing this, whereas the Japs are working for a bowl of noodles a day at all levels. Basically if you're Japanese in anime, you're making next to nothing unless you're literally Miyazaki.

Why is it always little girls, weebs?

First of all, we're talking about The Simpsons here. The cost of paying the voice actors alone probably surpasses the entire production cost of a Japanese anime film.

Secondly, actually bother to look up the working conditions in the anime industry. Japanese animators are a dime a dozen and work long hours for shit pay. And even then a lot of work gets outsourced to the Philipines and Vietnam.

I don't mind the side mouths per se, I mind the mouths being on the sides while there's clearly lips on the front. I tmakes them look like they have holes in their cheeks.

By that heavy reductionism all of American cinema is just French cinema with explosions and shakey-cam.

Draw cute thing is relaxing.

because toilet humor is expensive as fuck

Money laundering.

At first I was like "I don't see the difference"

Then I was like "...I do"

oh yeah because americans are so fucking original. don't make a point that can be said for either side

Cute girls are cute.

>he doesn't know what in-between frames are

That was back in the 90's golden age where they just threw money at the animation studios.

"lmao why do faggots eat this shit up."

>animal buddy comedy No. 3873
>better than anything coming out of anywhere

Japanese animation tends to use less frames, and static environments. They save money by just having panning shots on still images, and only moving the characters mouths.

because shes a pleasant sight and a reminder that we need to protect white women because theyre only 4% of the earth's population

t. robot

It is but don't post Toeishit trying to pass it off as the average. God I hate Toei I can feel them dragging down the entire industry.

I really didn't like that movie at all. I'm not against animated films but that movie lacked the "heart" of earlier films like Toy Story, Finding Nemo, or Monsters Inc. Or maybe I'm just old.

she's ugly though.

o well. she looks weak and cute.

Not all animation is 2d user.

Japan can't even approach the US when it comes to CG or Claymation

That said, I wish there would be a return to 2D drawn animation in the US.

Meant stopmotion not claymation.

>Because cartoons are known to be anatomically and physically accurate
This is some severe autism.

>Japan can't even approach the US when it comes to CG
Oh please, as if CG isn't basically a cheapening of the medium. Disney doesn't do 2D animation anymore because CG is the quicker and easier alterntive. It's the same reason why live action movies have little to no practical effects anymore. The most extreme example: compare the sets of the original Star Wars trilogy to the sets of the prequels.

Eastern animation is typically the worst of all animation with garbage framerate and shit like nothing but a mouth moving on screen for over 3 seconds which is blatant corner cutting. If you look at the very first version of the intro sequence for the Simpsons note when Marge turns around when Maggie is bagged like groceries Marge's hair goes through way more frames than necessary, as do Marge's hands when she honks the horn.

You have no idea what you're talking about, Japanese 3DCG is outstanding much better than western furfaggotry

How the fuck is the politics, go to /bant/ or something

>/bant/
how about killing yourself, shill?

Am I wrong? Can you post any Japanese CG animation that comes close to being as technologically impressive as Disney?

Japan has the US beat in drawn no doubt, but that isn't the only form of animation.

That looks like a ps2 cut scene

>Japanese characters are white
>American characters are yellow

It's like Americans accept their Chinese overlords

>japanese cgi
>they're mostly white
what did they mean by this?

they lagged far behind in the only art forms that matter.

>Disney doesn't do 2D animation anymore because CG is the quicker and easier alterntive
not really, hand drawn animation is actually still cheaper but kids just don't like it

Pixar films were the only 3DCG films that had heart, and even they're hit-and-miss these days.

>That looks like a ps2 cutscene
Have you ever even used a ps2?

>If you look at the very first version
Now tell me about the modern version, and let's compare it to for example the first OP of Attack on Titan in terms of animation, composition, choreography et cetera. There are good examples and bad examples on both ends of the world, the difference is that the East takes animation in general more seriously than the West, where we have like five socially acceptable adult comedy animations and a bunch of kiddy shit where zero effort is deemed acceptable.

And if you want to compare the first version of the Simpsons OP to anything, it's only fair to compare it to something contemporary: the OVAs of the 80s and 90s, the golden age of Japanese animation.

How, the profit from and GC is about 50%, a old animation never had more than 20%

>Because animators in Japan work for 400$ a month and you can exploit the shit out of that workforce.

How do you even solve this? A lot of industries have unions, but when people willing to literally die to work in anime, I'm pretty sure it's impossible to unionize them.

Make communist manga until it becomes ingrained in them, just like being recluse loners.

>128324873
>hurr durr why aren't japanese having children?

t. retard in jap government

the simpsons movie was on the worst movie i've ever seen in a cinema
it has everything i hate in cartoons

unfunny crap

>How do you even solve this?
The problem is Japanese working culture in general.

kalzumeus.com/2014/11/07/doing-business-in-japan/

It's entirely different from the West. A company effectively works like a family where promotions happen based on seniority rather than skill. When you get in as a graduate, you get shit pay and do all the heavy work, and you're expected to perservere long enough to eventually get into middle management a decade or so before retirement and boss all the new youngsters around while you do nothing. If you're useless, don't worry: you'll get a shitty job doing "administration", which means effectively doublechecking the paperwork of more competent people.

Unions as we know them here are impossible in Japan.

>Animation made before 2010 by a shitload of professionals with a predetermined artstyle looks worse and is more expensive than some detail cluttered drawings made in 2nd china.
>R DEM BEDDA DAN US!111!!!!???
L2animation fgt