BODYCAMS

GOOD IDEA OR BAD IDEA?

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any state accountability is fine imo since the state cannot be trusted

>Protects citizens from dirtbag cops
>protects cops from being unfairly targeted or slandered
>Acts as objective record of events

How could they possibly be bad? Anyone against them is probably a corrupt asshole who doesn't want to get busted.

you have it wrong friendo, NO ONE can be trusted

It's great

Keeps cops honest
Shows the shit they deal with
Redpills others

>Accidentally record a corrupt politician
>End up dead

Also it has cops shoot people more which is a plus

any increased liability to the american police force will be shot down some company offered to completely outfit the american police force completely free of charge and use their servers for a year

im all for it if it means some shithead cops going down

great idea. encapsulate them in a tough shell and make them always on with audio recording.
>outs police brutality
>outs niggers being niggers

price but thats about it

Seth Rich case body cams, did they released them yet?

Virtually takes away any 'dindu nuffin' defense

They will expose stupidity and petty crimes committed by public servants but it ultimately will change nothing other than general accountability. It's a step in the right direction at the very least but it's not the clincher.

Body cams are great. If Darren Wilson would have had one his career would have been saved. We would have also been spared the BLM shit shows in Furgeson and Baltimore.

>Be police
>Do something bad or illegal on the job
>Review board says file footage was corrupted or lost
>Keep being police

It's already happening, body cam won't make footage accidentally wind up lost.

It's going to increase arrests and convictions massively. Surveillance reduces crime and guarantees conviction when a perp is caught.

With biometric databases on those cameras, soon it will be impossible to get away with anything.

good.

They were originally used to show police brutality.
But all they did was show nigger brutality and that cops were acting perfectly fine all along.

Now the same people who called for their use are now complaining that the cams are racist for showing the truth.

The only problem is that we don't have them on our politicians 24/7/365.

They are a good idea but bad in practice

Problems no one thinks about and then gets stuck with the bill for:

1, should a cop be able to turn them on and off? Cops need privacy on the job for a myriad of reasons.

>talking to confidential informants
>talking to rape victims
>using the restroom
>breaks

2. Physical job

>Unlike a dash camera which has a protective shield around it in the former of a bumper protector, body cams have little protection. Cops have to tackle people, run, and they just trip.

3. Footage and evidence laws.

Unlike dash cam footage, which only goes on when the sirens are on, body cams are on for the entire shift. 8 hours may not seem like a lot of data, but imagine that for every officer on the NYPD, being saved in triplicate as per state law, and can only be ordered destroyed by a judge. That's a lot of data.

4. Freedom of information

Cops have to deal with confidential informants, rape victims, they see the worst shit. All of that data is public. Will people be OK with their 911 moments being on YouTube? Nothing stops a person from making a top 10 hottest rape victims or loneliest domestic violence video and posting it on luveleak or your tube

great idea

cops have so much authority they need to be held to the highest standard of responsibility

cops have been getting out of hand recently and are real jumpy pulling guns when they really shouldn't

you should never point your gun at someone unless you think they're trying to kill you

This. Exactly this.

Bad idea. Cops are less likely to let you off with warnings. And they aren't able to rough up/shoot niggers indiscriminately.

hmmm, actually a good post, thanks

libcucks saying it's a good idea will change their opinions next time they get stopped for driving a bit too fast or when the cops find a tiny bit of weed on them. before cameras, cops would often just give you a warning but with cameras they would be forced to go by the books. imagine all the little things too, like jaywalking.

lefties watch some nigger crackhead gets gunned down after pulling a piece on the police and think "this would not have happened if the police had cameras!"

checked and kekd

Greatest thing ever for civil society
Before
>did you push the cop
>no sir
>here are my 10 gang friends who confirm
>100,000s of the states money later, acquitted!
Now
>lets watch this video to see.

>should a cop be able to turn them on and off? Cops need privacy on the job for a myriad of reasons.
honestly the reason o support bodycams is for the police so they can be proven that hat they did was the best thing they could do so I'd say yes. However that still brings the point about the data which I am unsure of.

>soon it will be impossible to get away with anything.
YAY! I love being goyim!

I'd like to see all cops wear body cams and video streamed live to google where the can blur out the faces. You should be able to get a copy of any video with you in it.

>Nothing stops a person from making a top 10 hottest rape victims or loneliest domestic violence video and posting it on luveleak or your tube
I'm pretty sure a lot stops that from Happening.

HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH

manipulation and censorship could be problematic.

I fully agree
but I do believe them to have a crime deterring effect which might resolve more situations peacefully, pic related

I don't think so. Cops have to maintain a good relationship with their communities... being a hardliner about trivial shit isn't going to help that.

Would be a waste of tax payers money. Improve the dispute system and legislate more laws on what police can and can't do.

what this guy said

>talking to confidential informants
street cops dont do that

>talking to rape victims
again done in privacy of station/recorded at station and not public

>using the restroom
>breaks
hope you're trolling at this point

>That's a lot of data.
And there's a lot of storage. Point being?

>4. Freedom of information
utterly wrong about everything

just because you took some time to type out this bullshit doesn't make it any more valid

there's no downsides to bodycams

this is a problem with or without bodycams

private police so you get the best service
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so you need a bipartisan committee to review it, who currently does this? Is it the police force self regulating?

I think a partnership with Google could deal with indexing and storing footage. They already have the platform for it.

There should be some controls on who can access video. Google photo's already matches faces for you.

There are plenty of manufacturers who can make good cams. Out of all the wasteful spending out there, I am ok with this.

Cops shouldn't be allowed to turn them off. If the system is automated and access is audited then there is enough expectation of privacy.

Good for exonerating cops when nigs chimp out, but sometimes cops need to cut corners for justice.

i think it only would be reviewed if there was an incident

Oh dear you sweet sweet summerchild

Great idea, first person view of niggers being shot

there are no cops where I live, summer all day ery day

Think they're a waste of money, but they seem to be proving that the chimps usually deserve to get shot

I'm not totally informed on their price, but if we can make it cheap enough, I would be thrilled to have HD videos of people getting shot

This is why it's necessary, I usually disprove of the ever increasing police presence throughout the country, but I've realised it's a necessary evil considering how one of the smallest percentages of the population is responsible for most of the crime in this country, and they usually get off Scott free unless they got plugged in the incident

I read that sometimes cameras can leave out important contextual information that explains why an officer did what he did. Having multi-way cameras could help with that.

>And there's a lot of storage. Point being?
This is what I was primarily surprised by. Its a LOT of information and for proper storage it would cost a lot more of money plus the cost of a camera and shell itself (while not huge individually its still a cost. I'm not saying they shouldn't be implemented, just something that I hadn't thought about

Copfag here.
You idiots don't know what you're asking for. With a body cam you put me in a position where I can no longer give anyone a break. Where my decisions are mandated by my supervisors, protip most are shit.

No more getting off with a stern "stop fucking doing that"
People are going to go to jail and be charged where before they would have gotten a slap on the wrist because my supervisors are shit and I don't feel like getting Bitched at.

Perfect idea. Nigs cant cry police brutality and cops are held accountable. Win win

But the best side product of this is the advancement of storage technology
50TB SSD for $100 when???

It's great!
Now I have more videos of people getting shot to watch!

Oh fuck off tell your Dirty Harry's, and every fucking department and guy in it knows who they are, to quit the bullshit and this crap wouldn't be necessary

>Copfag
Union Card or GTFO

good idea. stops crooked cops from doing power hungry shit on people...stops dindunuffins from using that excuse when they do something.

>People are going to go to jail and be charged where before they would have gotten a slap on the wrist because my supervisors are shit and I don't feel like getting Bitched at.
this is a good thing lol, this is why i would support bodycams

Very bad idea. Only makes the surveillance state worse. Will more often be used to acquit cops than punish them.

Yes for 2 reasons, holding bad cops accountable and clearing the names of the ones who killed a hostile dindu

Please explain your position in further detail

The video is objective truth. If it acquits the cop so be it. The camera doesn't just make the cop act carefully.

Which is a good thing. Body cams have shown people how much crime nigs commit. Most of those cops deserve acquittal because they're dealing with fucking chimps and sometimes chimps need putting down.

Don't live in a union state and no one ever believes you're a cop. I've posted badge, tazer, car she other fun toys and anons still say I'm full of shit

Public police are a bad idea with or without body cams.

You libertarianfags are hilarious

You're a waste of to payer money.

Body cams are for both the perpetrator and officers protection.
I've seen cops with full on go pro setups on their vests to capture sound and video in decent quality, because of the bullshit they deal with on a daily basis.

Well you could say that body cameras give liability but the cops could turn them off anyway

good idea, cops aren't to be trusted.

Lots of them will lie to get out of trouble or make up shit so they can arrest you.

They aren't since they're part of an ((((active investigation)))) and are exempt from FOIA requests.

Great idea.
We would have a lot less footage of cops gunning down scumbags without them.

BAD IDEA! Police can't find the body cam footage from Seth Rich. Body cam footage only available when Democrats need it available

im not a nigger so i have no problems with this.

Not in many localities. You can get dash cam footage from any police car in Portland, they have to give you a copy. I don't see why this won't apply to body cams

You don't understand American law. Street cops do talk to informants. Interviews at the scene of a crime are important for in the moment interview for establishing fear and gathering evidence. Cops get breaks, if they can't turn off their cameras what should they do. Data storage costs money. Freedom of information varies by locality faggot

Kys

You know what costs more than a camera? Trials.
Say racism and open and shut case turns into a national circus you get to host on the city's dime.

Any context to this gif? What's the guy smoking doing? Looks like he nicks a wallet or something, did the guy working on the bike not notice him or something?

We get to see nigs get smoked regularly, so there's that.

Well consider the following:

Police do reports and when there's nothing to report, the footage can be discarded.
Any serious organization employs data centers who specialize in this.

www1.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/home/POA/pdf/Technology.pdf

It's not clear what codecs/resolution/bitrate cams use, so yeah. Don't worry about that.

lmao you got btfo self-righteous prick

>[screeches in american]
What could they be possibly doing on brakes that the camera needs to be turned off?
No, your opinion is full of shit and proving my point is the fact that there are currently no top 10 hottest rape confessions uploaded on liveleak

if there are find one and post and prove me wrong
otherwise go away burgernigger

Good. You people always let off the wrong people anyways
>cute women
>punk kids running my property

Good, unless you want to murder Seth Richards, then they are bad.

Great Idea
>With first hand footage we can see actions as reasonable or stupid
>Even though footage would show reasonable action to shoot a nigger doing a crime/fast hand movement to pocket, BLM will Chimpout
>BLM Chimpouts on reasonable courses of action will delegitimize BLM
>1 home grown terrorist group down (after awhile)


>>The whole left to go...

they need to just start firing people if their camera
>went off
when someone died

I don't believe you're a cop, but have a (You) anyway.

Regardless, discretion is fundamental to police work. It really is. Behavior can be corrected with a stern warning. This is why I'm against bodycams, at least bodycam footage that can be made public.

Maybe I've watched The Untouchables too many times, but a beat cop (modern traffic cop desu) probably has a good sense of when a ticket is warrented. You make publicly available bodycams? Say goodbye to warnings.

I am more afraid of you breaking the law then I am of me ever breaking the law. I have more faith in the judge's decision from the footage then from a hope a cop is going to be a nice guy.

didn't realize Sup Forums was so liberal. These are all literal liberal talking points.


IF YOURE PRO BODY CAMS YOURE A SNOWFLAKE LIB and you need to gtfo and go back to T_Donald

They should only activate once the gun is drawn though, we don't really need to see the boring bits, just justice in the form of hot lead into the perp.

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yeah its refreshing

if an illegitimate government is stealing money from me under threat of violence in order to pay for them, then it is a bad idea

desu its just going to BTFO niggers in their own web of lies.

good idea

Keeps cops honest, gives them less reason to hesitate when shooting a nigger.
Good idea.

If you think it's a waste then you're obviously retarded

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If stop and frisk can be removed in the interest of public trust I don't see why good faith discretion can't be advocated. And what would happen if you complained anonymously to Internal Affairs that actions dictated by the chiefs was eroding public trust?

Step by step yet another thing closer to orwellian nightmare

Soon we will buy those as private citizens. And it's gonna be based on our own demand, to prevent potential rape accusations and as evidence that we were forced to defend ourselves from brown people. This is what happens when you sell your civilization to the jew, surveillance on the streets, on businesses, on houses, on cops, soon on us

Wear a mask....
Oh man, darn we'll get him next time

It kinda sucks because a cop went to my neighbors house because he was having a loud party but he also caught me smoking weed in my yard he didn't arrest me or give me a ticket and told me that he was there for the disturbance of peace. But if he was wearing a body cam I would've been arrested because he was forced to do his job. So body cams will just turn police officers into ass holes

Actually not an argument. You're an enemy to rational discourse and you didn't even post trap porn.

guy pickpockets the other one repairing, then notices cam and fears consequences, WHATS MISSING IN THE GIF: thief throws wallet on the ground and acts like other guy has lost it, guy thanks thief and thief walks away with a sad expression on his face, funny ass vid actually

youtube.com/watch?v=F4va4Me4FFM

FULL VIDEO

sorry for the confusion I was making a point in favor of bodycams

good but they should be used at the officer's discretion

Very good