Is he full of shit or not? Some people seem to think he is a some sort of saint or something.
Also what is wrong with investing in cleantech, renewable energy sources, etc.? We cannot rely on fossilized fuels forever.
>inb4 muh climate hoax
Redpill me on Elon Musk and cleantech
Ian Campbell
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Christian Martin
The fuck is this shite?
Parker Lopez
If you've ever listened to Elon Musk when he's explaining a problem and its solution, he's amazing. His ability to find pathways to a solution reminds me of Feynman.
Carson Allen
I think Elon is a lot cleverer than Sup Forumsacks give him credit for
>be elon
>grow up in Pretoria, South Africa
>redpilled from a young age about the true nature of niggers, (((democracy))) and (((socialism)))
>Get out of SA as fast as possible, make one's way to US
>Make a shitton of money in the Internet boom
>Realize that he is essentially stranded now, like most Internet boom billionaires - they made their money, and it's impossible to really make any more because you can't invent the Internet twice
>Realize that the only way you can gain a fuckton of assets constantly in our rigged (((mixed economy))) is via government support
>Jump on the environmental bandwagon hardcore
>Get subsidies, tax breaks, every kind of legislative free pass from bureaucrats and politicians who want to appeal to the faggot green lobby
>Virtue signal constantly about muh environment, muh future for all of humanity
>Secretly laugh as your money piles up
>Funnel most of these assets into SpaceX, not TesLARP or SolarShitty
>Develop affordable interplanetary travel
>Establish Mars colony, become the most famous and brilliant man ever and everyone wants to suck your cock
>Even more money piles up
>Mars colony grows rapidly thanks to government funding
>One day in the 2060s, the colony is finally ready to be self sufficient
>89 year old Musk coughs across the intercom
>"Execute Order 88"
>"Of Article 14"
>Every single diversity token nigger on Mars is thrown out of airlocks by AWB members that seem to have been engineers just moments before
>US flag and SpaceX flag torn down, replaced by pic related
>Elon appears on the world's TV's, phone screens and VR sets, all now serviced by SpaceX internet
>"Come home, white man"
>Rockets leave every day
>Earth collapses into anarchy and civil war as all the intelligent whites who ran everything have gone
>1 Trillion Year Martian Reich begins
>mfw
Robert Campbell
I'm so skeptical.
There's a LOT of smart people out there. A lot. Naturally gifted. Educated. Hardworking.
Elon Musk, a single man, somehow managed to find solutions for: 1. Solar energy 2. Electric cars 3. Autonomous driving 4. Space travel 5. Hyperloop 6. Boring company 7. Neural-computer link
The man is full of shit. I can't wait for the crash.
Gabriel Sanders
Soon it won't matter anymore.
Kevin Richardson
Link to example?
Nathaniel Kelly
hes full of shit and the only way his Tesla are affordable is because our dumb shit government subsidizes the fuck out of his cars and company
Eli Evans
kys nigger
Jeremiah Young
I've got the impression that he and his companies run on government subsidies and hype. How profitable is Tesla and have they made any significant technological leaps?
Is Tesla going to go bust now that Trump is the head honcho?
Carson Long
This guy is the new steve jobs. Basically a snake oil salesman who leftist worship for some reason. This guy has ll kinds of ideas that never pan out. His "solar roof" was originally pitched as cheaper and longer lasting than a regular roof, average cost would be over 30,000$ and only lasts 10 years. But hes a hero right? Just like jobs selling you a $10 piece of chinese sht for $700
Camden Johnson
Why is it that gov't has to subsedize all this...buddys got billions, so spend your own money to get it done...and we always find more oil...you green freaks have been claiming 'peak oil' for 60 odd years now...
Aiden Turner
not full of shit
he admits that tesla is overvalued
he's basically a nerd from south africa who read too many scifi novels as a kid and was attacked so harshly by others that he developed extremely high standards for himself such that he has to work 100 hours a week on his scifi fantasies or feel like a complete failure in life.
Nathan Flores
Mars has no magnetic field to protect it from solar wind
Mars will never have a biosphere
Elon Musk smells
Bentley Martin
His products and industries are not sustainable or affordable. His business functions off of government subsidy.
So naturally he would be on board with the PCA, Paris Climate Accord, because it means he'll get those sweet gibs.
Xavier Miller
well I think I have this right. someone please correct me if I'm wrong. But solar city, his solar panel company was failing so hard that he was forced to buy it back from it's stockholders and pull it under the tesla umbrella. that solar shit just cannot compete at this moment without subsidies. it's that simple. Good for him trying to improve the technology but don't come running to me to give you my money to subsidize your failing business
Mason Bennett
Elon is fucking awesome. I love my Model S and the rockets he builds are unbelieveable. Gets me so excited every time to watch the launches and landings. If he keeps this shit up, we will have a bright future on earth.
Also look at this fucking rocket man. That thing will be built
Brayden Howard
He's full of US government subsidies, which will be gone soon.
Cameron Richardson
How should cleantech and renewable energy sources be researched and developed then? Solely by private parties? Should government interfere at all?
Gavin Jenkins
He is a weird as fuck reptilian autist who looks like he bought his human mask when it was on sale at the dollar store. And he is stupid enough to be marrying a confirmed gold digger like Amber Heard. If he is that fucking weird and stupid, I don't trust the fuck and neither should you.
William Jones
so what?
Better he uses the subsidies to launch people into space than jews using subsidies to launch niggers into your neighbohood.
Jonathan White
This whole muh subsidies is a meme.
Without subsidies, the renewable energy sector wouldn't go anywhere. It baffles me that people try to shame him for using this system for its exact purpose. Appartently people want him to make horrible business on purpose.
Christopher Robinson
they can be researched at universities and private companies like they already are, and developed by private companies like they already are. Just don't ask me to fork over one penny of my money to help you pay for it.
Anthony Russell
Quite based when it comes to tech, but should have known his place not to question Trump, who leads the government that subsidizes everything that is under Tesla and SpaceX
Paypal was 20 years ago, and it will be decades until his ideas become profitable, electric cars as a whole are not, but other car makers experiment with them for to get moral points, but all in all they have their base income from common vehicles, whilst Musk obv hasn't
I admire how passionate he is about what he does, shows he's really into it, but he gets carried away, like with the paris meme.
You can see the passionate part where an interviewer asks his opinion on pioneer astronauts saying spacex is shit and musk too.
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around 12 minute mark
Austin Gomez
He's full of shit. He has all these ideas that are sci-fi tier. He feuls his companies by hype from autistic freshmen in colledge. Not even /sci/ likes him.
Anthony Roberts
>Without subsidies, the renewable energy sector wouldn't go anywhere
Exactly, Hans. Why should it go anywhere if people don't want to pay for it?
I agree with though. We're not going to get a free economy soon or ever, so while we do have a mixed economy we might as well subsidize cool shit rather than nannying minorities and third-worlders.
Jayden Roberts
>wants to progress human society
>not based
yea if you could go ahead and off yourself that would be great. We need visionaries like him.
Nicholas Green
But why should government subsidize it all? Where are all the climatefags when it comes to fueling such research? I have yet to seen a single worth wile fund where they pour their money
Christian Jenkins
He is a tech god, he is legit
Lots of idiots are envious of his super brainiac archimedes tier level of genius status, and hate him for it, they can't even scratch at his dirt worth
Lincoln Wood
He is the true one fuhrer, you are just a fat faggot virgin
Jackson Jackson
I'd be more understanding if government, and the people it represents, would be the the sole or main beneficiary, but it seems to me that Musk is just playing the system by socializing the costs and privatizing the profits.
Luis Gomez
Totally retarded drivel. Fuck musk but this pdf is stupid on so many levels.Not surprising coming from a leaf.
Ryder Lee
He is hopelessly trying to play transhumanist in a world that is strongly rigged against it, and without changing the way the world works. Of course we would all want fully automated gay luxury space ancap but it's simply unfeasible and incompatible with democracy. As the saying goes, democracy CONSUMES progress, not drive it. Unless he has a secret plan of world domination to enforce everyone to welcome the huge cultural changes his tech implies, he won't see any of what he's doing during his lifetime.
Connor Parker
He's not smart, he's just rich. He made a fortune on Pay Pal and just blows money on science fiction. Most of his science fiction companies get a lot of Government funding.
I personally think the technocracy is just hype and no substance, but since we are not in the future yet, I can't really prove it. It's the same logic as flying car videos in the 60's.
Hunter Adams
Just another Kike using 'muh green tech' to not pay taxes.
Nathaniel Robinson
College freshmen spotted. I see that your spring break has started.
Carson Cox
biggest conman of our time
Lucas Ortiz
cleantech will be pursued and exploited when it becomes economically profitbale to do so. Currently it is better to build a coal power planet than 5000km of solar panels.
Ryder Howard
It's not really a meme, it just demonstrates that renewable energy is only sustainable when it's subsidized by Government money and the fossil fuel industry.
Samuel Myers
Elon Musk should buy a small island somehwere and create his own country called Musk, so he can live out his sci-fi utopian ideal society and build a small city from the ground up.
I bet it would collapse within 50 years.
Austin Stewart
I work in a lab in the local university. The progress in Biotech that is happening right now will come to fruition in the next 1-2 decades. The future will hit hard and change everything. What it means to be a human will change. There will be two species in about 50 years. Technocracy is the future and everything will change.
Ryan Diaz
>that video
jesus christ how does musk actually propose this hyperloop with a straight face?
Landon Reyes
Research on renewable energy sources should be encouraged, but as long as green tech is nothing but an economic disaster for the countries that are using them, fossilized fuel and especially nuclear power remains our best option hands down.
Austin Rivera
>Without subsidies, the renewable energy sector wouldn't go anywhere.
It seems that even with subsidies there are quite the few bumps on the road to cleantech utopia. I mean, don't you have your own problems with solar and wind energy Hans? You fell for the Energiewende meme and are now correcting the course, right?
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>immediately dismissing any alternative viewpoint using buzzwords or name-calling
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Juan Roberts
>There will be two species in about 50 years.
Please elaborate, I thought whites and niggers were already different species.
Gavin Clark
Ofcourse there are problems. We just donr habe enough capacity to save the excess energy. But who on their right mind would have thought this is going to be easy and without massive costs?
Joseph Ramirez
>60 %
Forest responds how you shout there.
Justin Gray
No it won't, because bankrupt Governments spending billions fighting against radical terrorist in the next 10-20 years won't be able to mass implement anything.
Not to mention the crazy conservative backlash against any type of technology.
Technocrats completely forget the human psychology factor. People don't want automated cars, they don't trust them. People don't want to eat GMO foods.
Connor Kelly
You are being played.Tesla and electric cars are not enviroment friendly.Battery needs litium, mining litium destroys enviroment.
Change battery at least every 3 years - make a fuckton of highly toxic waste.
And you fuckers eat it up that its clean.
Jack Long
This is astonishingly retarded. Hang yourself.
Zachary Bailey
Not to mention the fossil fuel power plants used to charge it, and the energy wasted transferring across power lines instead of just burning it at the source.
Ryder Martinez
Why are Europeans so retarded? It's like they're only on one layer of irony.
Cooper Thompson
He's smart but most of his views are Utopian, and his ideas for tech unrealistic for the world of today. I think he suffers from the old Ivory Tower syndrome, being that he mostly surrounds himself with scientific and engineering elites.
Carter Fisher
Lets continue with how spaceX is only working because nasa gave him tech?
Angel Thomas
Well yes but the difference will be even bigger. We can understand very complex interactions in the Human DNA. Its just a matter of time untiö we understand exactly the Outcome of any DNA change. Rich people will be the first to modify their DNA. It will probably start with small modifications and life extension measures. Already a CEO prolonged their telomeres. Even a nigger can become genetically a scandinavian with enough money. And not just an average one, the best possible version.
Austin Rodriguez
>But who on their right mind would have thought this is going to be easy and without massive costs?
Don't know exactly what kind of discussion you've had in Germany regarding the Energiewende, but I think the regular folk usually don't chime in chime until they finally see the electricity bill.
The problem also seems to be the irregular nature of sun and wind activity.
Xavier Russell
I'm all for renewable/cleaner energy, but Elon Musk is just another obnoxious pop "scientist" in the same vein as BIll Nye and Black Science Man
Aiden Ortiz
The fight against terrorism is not that expensive. But we will see who will be correct soon. I think you overestimate the threat of terrorists. Today the world is extremly peaceful compared to any point in history before.
Anthony Rogers
They did because me managed to shoot a satelite into orbit at a fraction of the cost, so the obvious reaction is to give him a contract
Landon Ortiz
What is obvious is that nobody is allowed to go "space" without nasa.They worked together with nasa before the first satellite.
Ian Lewis
People will want them when theyre statistically 100x safer drivers than humans. The tech will be there at the end of next year
Nathan Gutierrez
>Even a nigger can become genetically a scandinavian with enough money. And not just an average one, the best possible version.
Is that why there was hardly any niggers in Gattaca?
Jace Harris
Automated cars are already reality. I enjoy not having to lift a finger when being driven by my car. Not talking about GMOs. Which are already a reality i am talking about human genome Manipulation. GMOs habe zero downsides and are basically everywhere already.
Camden Lewis
Why would you choose to be a nigger if you have the option ?
Josiah Torres
His company needs environmental gibs to exist.
Electric cars are stupid. I look forward to a future where I can hack an engine and make it explode.
Lets keep things analog please.
David Thomas
SpaceX is just a private contractor.
SpaceX is not owned or controlled by NASA in any way. Its commercial relationship to NASA is quite different from that of the various companies that built the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, and Space Shuttle vehicles. In those cases, NASA paid for the whole thing, including cost overruns. In this case, SpaceX is being paid specifically for particular deliverables and only those items, on a milestone basis. No performance, no money, and any extra money that is required has to come from SpaceX itself.
SpaceX's work on the human-rated Dragon crew capsule, for example, is almost entirely being funded by themselves.
Jayden Martin
Athletes will choose to be a nigger.
Ethan Green
You should listen when the grown ups speak, boy.
Andrew Ward
Even combustion engines cars are computers today. Everything is ran through the CAN bus
Luis Kelly
Stop changing the subject.We were talking about how nasa gave him TECH before contracts.
Blake Evans
It works? 50% of them explode.
Logan Sanders
It's nowhere near the same thing and you know it.
Aiden Walker
Embarrassing.
Nolan Gonzalez
Not the case, since Elon Musk pumped all of his money from Paypal into SpaceX for a 4th launch of the Falcon 1. Up until their success, their had no connection to NASA and were 100% privately funded. Elon even said he had to borrow cash to pay for his rent.
Gabriel Collins
>Not that expensive.
Yet.
I don't under estminate the threat of terrorism, I think are over estimating the spending power of Governments in the near future.
You are STILL on QE. We don't realize how bad the economy is, yet. Once the economy starts to cave in on itself, that's when poverty and lawlessness will increase, and the Government will be spending most of it's time trying to maintain order during a depression.
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You can't run a technocracy on borrowed money.
Mason Jones
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Liam Wright
Checked. Use archiving
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Sebastian Jackson
>But he invented electric cars
No, he bought that company
>But he made civilian space travel
No. He he bought that too. It's doing well as the next Lockheed. No civies are in space but he gets some government contracts so that's good money. It's a defense company.
>My PayPal
Got me there I guess. Pretty sure his brother did the coding work on that.
He's a good businessman but no supergenius. He branded himself as "so smart". He's not. He's good at branding. So funny he's running a company running off the military industrial complex and getting everyone so excited about it.
Zachary Rogers
If you knew about his and Peter thiels philosophy for business you might understand why he had so many projects. To advance we must create new technologies rather than stagnate. Instead of them hoarding their shekels they invest in new technologies
Christian Collins
Sure, and how long will that software be reliable for? A year? Maybe 2? We can't afford to replace automated cars everytime a new road is paved, or an extra lane is added. If it wasn't for the real cars they can follow, they would be useless.
Maybe you haven't seen the one lane highways in Canada in the middle of the night, but I certainly wouldn't trust my life with an automated car.
Logan White
Even osmium is not this dense.
Fuck off if you cant understand that its about fucking technology, not money and contracts.
No connections with nasa is why his team was full of nasa scientists.
Isaiah White
It actually is, there are even Hackathons with combustion engine cars. Modern cars are computers and can be controlled entirely digitally. If your car has a lane keeping assist system, you can even controll the steering wheel digitally.
Look up George Hotz and his startup comma.ai. They made a business out of hacking combustion engine vars and making them self driving.
Gabriel Barnes
Elon Musk will live on Mars in 2020.
Jason Bell
>ex NASA scientists.
Sorry, Elon is just that good.
Jayden Thompson
If he was so cool, he would be building the cars in ways that he wouldn't need money and selling them for 100% profit.
Noah Price
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Christopher Smith
There's a 1/1 million chance your car could just make an error and kill you. Yeah, no thanks. I'd rather control my life than have the "system" decide who randomly needs to die today.
Not to mention the IT security flaws that will never get addressed.
Computers are not nearly as reliable as people think they are. If the memory gets damaged or the computer operates at the wrong temperature, it could cause all kinds of miscalculations and fuck ups.
Dominic Butler
Sorry that you are this dense that you believe nasa scientists that have oversight about tech can just go when they like it.
Daniel Young
>Modern cars
Fuck that shit.
No onboard computer should be accessable without a physical connection.
>lane keeping assist system
Stupid worthless bullshit. I rented a car with this shit and hated it. Another thing no car should have.
I have an older car. Modern cars are all shit. I'll probably do everything I can to avoid ever owning a modern piece of shit. At the very least I'll be changing some shit.
Tyler Hall
Facts say otherwise. The Model S has about 250 million miles of autopilot driving and so far only one death. Statistically there is one fatal accident for every 100 million miles driven. Not the mention the lives autopilot has saved. As the technology progresses people will get more comfortable with it.
David Garcia
>Computers are not nearly as reliable as people think they are. If the memory gets damaged or the computer operates at the wrong temperature, it could cause all kinds of miscalculations and fuck ups.
This guy is an idiot
Connor Murphy
He's just waiting for some of that Paris Accord billions.
That's it.
Wyatt White
I agree. No way Musk is bluepilled. Peter Thiel was one of his mentors and he tends to be pretty based on enviromental issues. I believe he's endorsed Moral Case for Fossil Fuels
James Edwards
You retards heres how his scam works. He is basically in the finance industry.
>shill Tesla non-stop to get investor money
>loan it out, including to his own failing solar shit, to make interest
>get low interest loans from US gov for green energy
>loan it out at higher interest to make profit
>People think he makes $ from selling cars.
Gavin Russell
Its not about self driving cars. It's about self driving trucks. When you can have one driver (assuming you need someone to watch for problems on the road, keep the shit from being robbed,park them for loading/unloading assuming the technology isn't there yet for them to park themselves) for a convoy of 5 trucks you can fire 4 people.
Jordan Hall
I don't want to be the one that dies, no matter what. It's also not a fully automated car. People just patient wait for it to fuck up and catch the wheel.
You have no clue how many times your PC makes a mistake and gets over it. How reliable is WIndows? Dust, heat, humidity.. computers fuck up a lot. I would not trust my life with a computer.
Levi Richardson
Modern cars are now being shipped with lane keeping assist for very little extra fees. Most already have it.
Isaiah King
Yeah, self driving trucks running people off the roads. Sounds great.
No thanks. Fuck this technocracy nonsense.