I keep reading: 'Why don't you fight back?'

I keep reading: 'Why don't you fight back?'

Here are some issues:

>"someone else will do it"
>"I don't want to lose my job/get sacked/removed from uni."
>"I live far too comfortably to risk my lifestyle to be ostracised by society for holding different opinions."
>"I'm a NEET with no funding, I can't imagine doing anything OFF the internet."

>there are no good organisations to combat the government over this. On one hand we've got May wanting a police state and a commie who wants no borders.
>the people who are organised in the UK are edgy skinhead faggots who normal people stay 100 miles away from.
>by normal people I mean people like your mum and her friends.

I don't condone violence, I'm saying without the above points addressed, no such change will occur.

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If thats how it is, i cant condone you for making your own choices. However I daresay shits really gonna have to hit the fan before you find your spine. Because it sounds like you wont move unless you have nothing left to lose.

I'm speaking this for the general population, I'm as fed up of this shit as anyone here.

Organize and raid for a living.
No one gets a job if everything is on lockdown.

everybody who says "stay and fight!" is 100% a foreigner who does not understand our unique situation

inb4 americans reply with "WELL LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, IF WE....BLAHBLAHBLAH"

You people can't fight back if you haven't evem mobilized. You're divided.

People are still more bothered about the class divide which has fucked us up since the 70s

The fight back should be against the US and its master izrale
Boycott US goods and anything connected with the US
The US is responsible for all of this, going WAY back, back beyond the Gulf War or any of the other shit stirring wars for profit launched on the mid east and elsewhere
Destroy the hoped for US empire
Do it now and don't wait for it to collapse on its own as all empires must
The US is responsible
The US and izrale alone

So don't be deluded don't be fooled
It's all the fault of the US from start to finish

LARP

what he's saying is there's no benefit to making ourselves martyrs if it's not going to lead to anything, which it won't

if i get to work tomorrow and there's a labour/ lib dumb/ green protest outside for some reason, and one of them gets in my way i will personally curbstomp the cunt. but put my (new) job and career on the line and ruin my life for no good reason? why would i do that?

it's mostly burgers making these dumb "le fight back" remarks anyway. like you idle cunts would do anything if somebody set off a bomb in jew york or there were a few (more) stabbings in chicago. you'd sit on the internet shitposting as usual, because ultimately you're no more willing to do anything than anyone in europe is.

this

there are too many LARPing americans on this board, true

>the country with no identity and no culture tells its ancestral continent how to preserve its own

quaint

Hello Mohammad. Are you enjoying your nice vacation in Australia? Do you like the spiders?

How much money are you and your family scamming from the taxpayers?

Kek shut up fagg i got knifed 2 times by gypsys and put in the hospital.The 3rd time i put them in the hospital since i brought knifes and friends.I had ropes in the police so i only got away with a ticket....kek.
You can always dupe and fuck the systembover you just dont have the right mentality for it.....

Don't listen lad, these peopel are retarded hypocrites who don't understand that society couldn't work if it didn't divide roles between people. Most here wouldn't even go to a protest never mind go beating up muslims.

What we need is fascism and brown shirts, but how do we get anyone to take that seriously in the UK?

LOL WHAT A FUCKING BADMAN YOU ARE

Another fucking LARP solution

The burgers shit themselves and fall to bits
You should have heard them on 9/11
What a pack of panic merchants
No one could reason with them
They were shitting themselves all over the place
Because the US has never felt the boots of enemy feet. The US hasn't suffered for all the strife it's caused worldwide
The US stirs the pot and profits from both sides
The US sits back and watches the world burn
But when a few buildings are brought down deliberately by kikes for cash, the US wets itself
Oh my bug out kit
Oh my cave in the hills
Oh my guns
Oh fear fear fear, the 'rag heads' have bombed us. What can we do? Why isn't the world helping us
Then Bush standing there, 'You're either with us or against us'
and dragging every tiny little nation on earth into the slaughter of mid easterners which was the purpose of 9/11 and long planned and Silverstein had his insurance policies up to date

Burgers will feel it up close and personal in the future
In the meantime, they play observers like the jews on the hill watching Operation Cast Lead

Burgers are the biggest cowards and drama queens I've ever seen
Typical bullies who like to dish it out but run for their mother when it comes back at them as I hope it does damn soon

+ the fact that taking any action against muzzies will make the lefties cream their pants, cuz now they can claim that "white men are da REAL TERRORISTS!!!"

Whatever you say faggot next time you see a mislim bend over i personally would kill him and go to prison but then again i am not a weak westerner pussy faggot.That is why we dont have muslims....kek.

This isn't your fucking country you ignorant autist. Things are different here.

The truth is people arent nearly fed up enough yet. It will have to get worse before it gets better.

The only thing we can do is be prepared.
Make sure you have the ability to defend your home. Even basic tools are enough.
If something happens while you are away from home, the key is to act, not freeze up or run. They expect that where as if you go full on psycho at them with anything you have to hand you might win and others may join you. This is only in a kill or be killed situation though, only the government can be proactive and they choose not to be.

Fascism and brown shirts will never happen unless in the highly unrealistic scenario there is a coup. I've spoken to leftists who would rather be blown up by radicals than 'live in a Nazi utopia'.

he's right you know, you fell for jewish schemes back in the 19th century hook line and sinker. your own stupidity and willingness to do whatever they told you to is what has led us to the mess we're in now. if you'd had a pogrom back in the 1920/30s to deal with your own jews at the same time they were manipulating germany into eradicating european jewry (Sup Forums forgets that jews will happily fuck over other jews for a few shekels, US jews indirectly caused the 'holocaust') then europe would still be completely white and conservative and the US would still be over 80% white, with the minorities having no power.

never forget that you american cunts, your own failure to deal with your own jews is what caused the mess we're in now.

I and most us are still invested in society. Ultimately we believe that the best path for us to start and raise families requires continued respect for the rule of law. We have a lot left to lose.

This is what limits our desire to use illegal violence.

Muslims are highly inclined to illegal violence because they have little to no investment in the rule of law. Polygamy creates a large population of prospectless men who see conquest as the best means to get access to women.

I think I would, Nazism is totally antithetic to British values, if Britain was ever a fascist country it wouldn't be Britain anymore.

He's right, you dumb kike. The U.S is the giant, steroided psychopath on the playground doing what Israel, the scheming little cunt, tells it to.

um how the fuck are we gonna fight back.

You get jailed just for insulting muslims on the internet

The best course of action for us is to convert normies to the point where our truth becomes mainstream and gassings occur.

Breivik style shit is counter productive at best.
Don't listen to the jews telling you to go out and bomb somewhere,(((they))) wait for this excuse patiently to bag in and watch every slightly right wing person on the west.

>Burgers are the biggest cowards and drama queens I've ever seen
Typical bullies who like to dish it out but run for their mother when it comes back at them as I hope it does damn soon


very very good post
but what else can we expect from a nation descended from failures

I'm lucky that I live in a small town in Scotland, I honestly can't believe what I read about in England about Rochdale and Rotherham.

You are so mad right now kek

Kek shouldn't you be cleaning the streets of your people's blood? Next one is coming next week btw

After all we've done for you, Austria.

this

another thing foreigners fail to understand. it's possible to be a nationalist and despise nazism, the fact they think this means (((they))) have influenced us is evidence of this failure to understand the culture or history of this country.

They know it too
They know in their gut they're living on borrowed time
All those bible thumping, apple pie stuffing idiots in the US Midwest thinking nothing can touch them
And of course, the US education system (oxymoron) doesn't teach Americans that their entire population is less than 5% of the planet
They seem to think they're 90%
And because they've never been tested, because they fill their faces and have never gone hungry, because they buy the bullshit on their infantile brain damaging tv, because they think all wars will forever be 'over there somewhere', they are unprepared and actually believe that forty tons of baked beans stowed in an old shipping container underground will save their idiot lives
Americans have a lot to learn and it's to be doubted they'll ever develop sufficiently to grasp the monster they are, the bloodshed for which they're responsible as they gawp at transsexuals and play games
They're ripe for slaughter and it's coming their way and they're too brain dead to see five minutes ahead of what they're doing right now
US pain is long overdue
I almost feel sorry for them

don't throw stones from glass houses user

reality is that youll just be put in jail for trying. excuse here in america is we will lose our careers and be ostracized in most of the country, in europe and canada you go to jail for not gleefully applauding the conquer and extermination of your culture and race. Part of me thinks that once your bag lady dies in england theres a chance for your King to step up and save your asses, but im pretty sure thats just a hopeful fantasy.


You do realize that in one generation youll start having breakaway islamic republics attacking you from what is now small no go zones right? and a generation after that youll be the oppressed minority without the care and tolerance you bestowed to your conquerors.

Then you all deserve to die, and Islam deserves its place in the West. If short term inconvenience for long term salvation is too much for you, you don't deserve what little freedom you still have.

Good for you jock-bro, I'm in a comfy village too (with lots of history related to crusaders oddly enough) but there's a multi-culti city nearby (not one of the big ones but bad enough)

Yeah, but try tell that to 90% of the British population. It's the hardest pill to swallow.

And that includes Americans
You forgot to make that clear

Ah the ol' "you can't organize to defend yourself or make a statement because those you want to defend or make a statement against have made such an endeavour socially taxing" predicament.

Frustating, isn't it?

As soon as modern men stop giving a shit about what the communist next door thinks, they can start fixing things.

>but what will ______ think?

I realize in places like the UK, its extra rough to stand up for yourself.

That being said, you've already lost.

Fighting back has become so socially unacceptable that anyone who did would not only risk prison, but also the support from friends and family and any future career and income. Few are willing to sacrifice everything, even for a worthy cause.

The people who fought to protect their people used to be seen as heroes. What we really have to do is silence the jewish media who has tricked us to view our heroes as villans and the villians as heroes.

it's just another form of socialism, you'd think americans would despise it as well. Britain isn't about using populism to support authoritarian regimes, it's about monarchism, the rule of law and liberty. Nationalism in the UK should only mean freedom from tyranny for it's citizens.

i grew up just outside rotherham, the news stories only cover half the story. the 1400 figure was very conservative if anything, and i 100% guarantee it's still going on now.

I think the biggest factor is if we do something to fuck with the Muzzies at this stage theres a good chance it will be counterproductive. The media loves taking what little morsels we give them and concocting stories about "nazis" and "fascists" and pretending our brand of "extremism" is just as evil and as big a threat as Islamic invaders who mass murder random kids and women every few weeks. I worry that if we do something (specifically talking about violent action) that the MSM will then go crazy with the propaganda and use it to drive normies away from the cause. That whites who were slowly getting redpilled after constant muslim aggression will then go "See! its not islam thats the problem! theres terrorists and extemists on both sides!"

So its a difficult situation. I think for now the action should be things like hurting islamic business through sabotage and intimidation more so than violence. Contaminate halal supplies, destroy halal delivery trucks, threaten politicians and community leaders who are known to push islamic agendas, vandalise stores that sell halal meat or the Koran etc etc. As well as putting thousands of leaflets through peoples doors redpilling them on the reality of the situation. Telling them not to use muslim businesses etc etc.

Other than that, all white males should be quietly prepared. Stay in shape, train in something like MMA or boxing if you can, stockpile whatever weapons you are able to have in your country (or more besides if youre quiet about it) and just overall make sure you can mobilize and be a fucking menace if/when the SHTF and you are allowed to defend your country without your own people trying to hold you back.

One person protesting is just an idiot. A few thousand is a new story. 50 thousand is a movement.

Nevermind. It's tea time.

A nationwide strike would have politiicans talking out of the other side of their face
A simple down tools
The banks would have a coronary
Industry would kick the shit out of politicians
A media strike .. just turn them off .. would have an equally unsettling effect on the criminals posing as politicians
And of course there are so many other ways to make them shit themselves into a radical rethink

Make Britain Great Again

Sharpe!

What a series.

But to be honest, the lobbyists are to blame for that, now if there were an uprising and a coup d'etat to oust the lobbyists, than maybe we can bring change. But until those foreign lobbyists go, we can't do shit.

There's not a lot you can do. Society and government has got out of control with various powerful entities with vested interests fucking shit up for their own ends and the only thing that will stop the current trajectory, and probably the best we can hope for, is a massive collapse. In this circumstance you will need to hunker down and take care of your own family/street/community until shit gets sorted out.

Yea we know, the romanians dont have "I must suck mudslime dick" engraved in their brain like you do. All of your solutions more or less revolve around that.

The solutions are fairly simple, its just that your retarded brains and your ego has created such a dumb web of thoughts that you cant even just simply punch a mudslime in the face. To brush your teeth you probably need a thousand different cuck thoughts as to why you should even do it.

Sometimes complexities also hide away personal flaws, like weakness, low genetic quality and cowardice. You guys definitely have layers upon layers build around the fact that you are not men anymore, but sissies.

>Things are different here.
HAHAH yeah we are all well aware of that

Dad studied law at Leeds in the 70s and he had friends who worked part time in social care in the area and even then it was bad, at least 5 cases a week of white girls molested by asians. Can easily imagine maybe 40,000 incidents in total since then acriss Britain.

>fuck populism, the will of the people
>monarchy is great, because a book told a man he was special 800 years ago

Holy shit you guys are donezo

>I don't condone violence
That's the worst thing I've ever heard and I keep hearing it a lot. What does ''don't condone violence'' even mean. What if I come at you and start punching you to death because hey I'm a psycho who cares.
You're just gonna sit there and take it because you don't do violence? You're gonna tell me ''sir I disagree with you punching me to a pulp right now'' and hope I stop?
>inb4 well yes sure for self defense it is cond-

NO, FAGGOT. YOU EITHER CONDONE IT OR YOU DON'T.

Any way to covertly and consistently give whole areas of muslims birth control or some kind of fertility damaging substance in a way that wont effect lots of whites as well?

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what the fuck that's not the image I posted

>The mad Aussie in this thread

Your media needs to be taken down. They are the ones pumping toxic bullshit into the minds of pliable normies. Figure it out.

We aren't going to start fighting back illegally until enough people feel like respect for the rule of law is preventing them from raising children.

Therefore there are two things I think we should be doing:

1. Support legal/political efforts to solve the problem. It's a long shot, and time is short, but it's least painful solution if we can pull it off.

2. Be prepared on a personal and familial level for a world where illegal violence becomes necessary. Be armed, lift, and organize with like-minded people.

Just my 2 cents.

At the very least one can vote for uncucked candidates.

I started work in an american company a few months back, and the first time I met a senior director who'd never left the US I was surprised. But then I met more americans who had never left their "great country", and now I don't even raise an eyebrow.

maybe we are too harsh on them, this is a nation which takes everything it sees on their (incredibly biased) TV stations to be gospel. That's another thing, if any of you have to go to the states any time soon, make sure to watch their TV for at least a while, especially the news if possible. I thought the BBC was a disgrace but american TV is a whole new level, it truly is brain rot. And what's more, hundreds of millions of them watch that literal electric jew every day. Now I think about it it's starting to make me angry, that citizens of a nation like that dare tell others about their countries and societies.

are you a millennial? if so, here's the deal: we will not be the ones to fight back and reclaim our countries, we will be the ones that support those that will fight. what is our greatest problem right now? we have no higher support. as many rightfully said here, we may larp and act as if this was the american civil war, but that leads us nowhere. at worst, some may take their larping to the streets and get picked apart one by one. stupid!

no, we have to become the higher support that we didn't have in our earlier years. search your heart and realize this is true. the one hole of our generation is that there was no "higher ups", nothing to guide or provide us. to end this cycle, we must gear ourselves for the long struggle. become industrialists, become agrarians, get yourself into a position where you could provide the coming generations with materials (perhaps even weapons?), with spiritual and tactical guidance, with information. we must become what those coming after us will aspire to.

understand this: effort is something foreign to us these days. dreams of a civil war substitute the idea of salvation. quick and easy fix. just a week of blodsheed and all our problems are gone. free yourself from this naive thought and awake your inner ambition. the future of our race will depend on whether we will be able to provide our yet to be born fighters with everything they need. if we fail this mission, everything will be gone.

Based.

Western people only care about themselves.

The bigger the Empire, the more disastrous the collapse. The attitude of moral superiority the U.S has is staggering, and even when an American will admit fault, their response is usually "but what you gonna do about it?" with a shit eating grin.

According to this site, which is pretty obscure and mysterious but we know it was started by Edwin Deagle who used to work at the Department of Defense, the U.S population by 2025 will 61,000,000.

deagel.com/country/United-States-of-America_c0001.aspx

Many European nations will be destroyed as well, by their estimation. Russia, India and China fare well, as do some South American nations. Luckily Israel seems to take a bad hit.

deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx?pag=2&sort=GDP&ord=DESC

Some kind of hijack of a BBC or ITV news broadcast (like that guy in the Max Headroom mask did in the 80s) would reach millions of viewers. Lot of redpill potential there. Dunno how doable that is though. Presumably itd take some serious talent and effort to pull off.

No. Won't happen
But strike action will
Funny. People will strike for a few dollars extra a week. They'll bring the country to a halt. They'll see thousands stuck in airports. They'll see old people freezing to death because they don't have electricity. They'll see thousands on the streets, unable to get to work because of bus or train strikes
But they can't get their act into gear and strike until politicians, lobbyists, kikes, parliament even the royal family give in
And if they don't, they know what will happen. Right, more strike action as the banks are losing their last pints of blood
You have the fucking tools
do you have the will?

Start a halal meatshop.

This.

But wouldn't want anyone to call me a 'nazi'. Better just lay down and take it.

Kill them, kill them all.

>In Canada you go to jail for not applauding the extermination of your race
I can't talk for the whole country, but here in Quebec, you get beaten up if you "applaud", as you say it.

>fight back
Against what exactly? The perpetrators are dead.

The civilian Muslim community? Do you want to attack random innocent civilians for no good reason? These attacks pose a threat exactly because you don't know who is a peaceful Muslim and who is an enemy. Who is the silent supporter and who will be a violent actor.

The problem isn't with not fighting, the problem, if there is a problem is with the values of a country that wants to attract huge amount of immigrants from all around the world, without discriminating between humans based on their ethnic/cultural/religious background.

London doesn't have it any worse than Kabul, if you believe in civic nationalism you should stop complaining.

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The lobbyists ask. They ask politicians and officials. They ask them because the power of the government has expanded beyond what anyone thought it would.

The lobbyists are the shadow, the Government and its Jewish Zionist puppeteers are that which casts the shadow.

matches with what i've been told, relatives and family friends telling stories about goings on from about the 70s onwards. my mum has said that rotherham used to be a 'nice' place (i.e. not a complete shithole) , but from about the mid-80s she used to feel uncomfortable walking around certain areas, started seeing groups of paki men who leered at her etc

>your

no

yours is where it all stems from, sort out your own then our media will quickly follow suit. can't do that? then maybe you should stop telling us what to do.

All of these oppressive new social norms can be overcome thru anger. By watching Alex Jones effectively. Problem is anger has become demonised by the feminists. Just become angry and as a man you notice they have no power over you anyway.

how would you like it without Sup Forums, a US website?

you sound like a fucking muslim GTFO

>the people who are organised in the UK are edgy skinhead faggots who normal people stay 100 miles away from.
>by normal people I mean people like your mum and her friends.
This here's your problem. You're a pussy bitch who thinks he's better than the EDL.

Of course they do, because (((they))) have been working non stop on destroying their ethnic identity, so now westerners can only identify through their monetary and virtue signal gains.

There values of ''family, religion, country'' are ALL dying. It's a self-centered fuckfest of vanity.

Sharpeh!
The country has been cucked by the last Labour government and their obsession with political correctness. It's a hang up from the Blair and Brown years and it'll get a hell of a lot worse if Corbyn gets elected. Attitudes are changing slowly. You have right wing alternative media now and insergent parties like ukip driving the narrative. May will be forced to adopt something like what ukip have in mind for their 'integration agenda'. Just voice your opinion on the subject whenever you can and avoid voting for Lefty apologists. You think the oppressive air closing down free speech is bad now, it was far far worse under Labour

if there is a violent threat that threatens your existence, then the being who is capable and willing to remove that violent threat is at an evolutionary advantage. The EDL are indeed superior to the average "man". Even if they inject themselves with drugs, wear retarded clothes and otherwise are pretty dumb people. But that is one huge advantage that may allow them to ride out this storm, while the "normal" people may die out.

Excellent post.

Thanks for the links, I've seen a bit about it before
The US is prime target of course, although Americans are still in denial
When the US goes down, nothing will ever be the same
Yes, subcontinent, Asia generally, Russia most likely, will pull through
But the US is soft in the middle and too complacent apart from fear mongering in Sup Forums and other honey pots
We've seen how Russia became. The US will look at least as bad
Russia had a superb civilization the likes of which the US will never achieve, yet the USSR still looks worse than Beirut
The US will never recover and will most likely be broken up
Few of the other 95% of the world will cry. US has done too much damage and dragged worldwide progress backwards
Americans, the few who manage to get out, will become very quiet indeed, no more 'loud Americans'
Not that I dislike Americans. Many of them are sterling. Not even their fault at a personal level. The rot set in almost from the start unfortunately while Americans were taming the West, building, pioneering
And not as if many Americans don't know who fed them the (((poison chalice)))
Like most, the average American doesn't know what he/she can do about it. They're given the old two party voting game like most of the West

Trump claims the US will always support izrale
It might be time for Americans to start getting up on their hind legs and tossing the mindless distractions into the dust for they are far from immune to the problems confronting other parts of the world
Now if only American fathers didn't still believe it an honour to have a kid in the US Marines -- that would be a start in the right direction

>Just become angry and as a man you notice they have no power over you anyway.

this can't be overstated enough, if you ever get confronted by a shrill feminist then all it takes is the slightest hint of anger and they will back down immediately. it must be something primal, every woman instinctually knows not to properly piss off a male who is twice the size and several times as strong as her. of course it doesn't work if you're a feeble beta male, but as a presumably nationalistic male browsing this board you should be lifting and doing plenty of physical activity anyway.

I'm as far from being muslim as it's possible to get
Now stop fishing because I know who you are

good post

Nicely put

You're not a Muslim, I believe you. Hating Israel and the USA and Jews is a normal part of ""Western"" ideology these days it's part of the reason we're so cucked.

i think the single biggest issue is the lack of irl support networks. a lot of these issues would be much easier to tackle with a large group of friends who have your back. some anons on 4chins who call you a fag when you do field reports of your activity isn't really going to cut it for most people, it's very demoralizing to be on your own with your ideas.

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I think we can all agree we need to find a woman and get breeding bros. Fuck looks, fuck everything. If you truly care about more than just your ephemeral pleasure ~70 years on this fucking planet, find the mother of your children and get to work.

Why fight back? This is what Britain's want. Let them have it.