My Friend Made Me Realize Capitalizism is Torture

My friend drove me downtown and took me to the lakeshore and showed me all the rich people and their Yachts. He said "see that shit, I want that shit, see that? that shit, i want that shit". I go "what's your point?". He responds "you don't get it do you? I WANT THAT SHIT" and then I realize it, but it's too late because he explains it. "I want that shit so bad but because of capitalism i will never get it , i can only watch those who have it enjoy their luxury, it's torture man".

How would someone who buys the theory of market capitalism refute that point. He proves that for the bottom 90% capitalism is essentially torture.

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theres always gonna be poors, theres always gonna be rich people, no matter what kind of economical system is followed

your friend is a typical idealistic leaf

So the solution is to make everyone poor?

your friend is a nigger and you're a nigger lover

>he's an idealist
Exactly! He's basically a genius when it comes to sociology but no one listens to him since he's not rich

No, the solution is to make everyone rich.

>I want what he has
>it's torture man
Leafs, I tell ya.

He's actually a Caucasian Canadian

>African nigger visits your friends' home
>SHIEET? A TV? I WANT THAT SHIT!! YOU HAVE WARM WATER!??? I WANT THAT SHIT!

I think like your friend except I don't get mopey like a bitch. I want that I'll take it and if I can't with brute force I'll study kike teachings until I can get what I want and make you goys pay for it. Never settle for less be the best you you can be not a parasite or waste that gleams of envy.

If he wants it so bad just steal it lol

>make everyone rich
How?

Inb4 communism

it's torture if you allow it to be
envy and jealousy are feminine traits. socialism and communism are feminine ideologies. aspiration is what built human civilization, and aspiration is the basis of capitalism. whining about those better off than you achieves absolutely nothing, we live in a society where if you have a good idea and market it smartly you can become immensely wealthy. the other side to this, the beautiful part, is if you sit on your arse and do nothing, you will never amount to anything, and this is exactly how it should be. market capitalism is the only way to build a society capable of progression, and that will never change.

If everyone was rich no one would be rich as there is no standard of poor. Just as if everyone is educated that is no longer higher education it is the standard

Yeah but now a days everybody has that shit

Except you can't just "be a parasite". Like you can't just join the establishment.

Democratic Socialism

Tell him what his life would be like without capitalism. A whole lot worse than what he has now.

Why are people responding as if this wasn't a really poor troll post?

Chinese got it

>TFW no jet ski dock on your dinghy
>TFW no rc boat dock on your dockable jet ski

He'd go to prison and he says prison is the worst torture you can imagine. He always wanted to go swimming but couldn't. He always wanted to stay up late but couldn't he said he spent half the nights just awake completley and all the days just tired since he's a night owl. He always wanted nice steaks, hotdogs, burgers, and fries but he got gross prison food. He always was made fun of in the showers because he was naked and embarassed so he couldn't even enjoy that.

Tell your friend to get a job. Then maybe he'll get the yacht he wants.

Capitalism is a feminine ideology. Not being jealous means your feminine. You whining about my friend achieves nothing.

The thing is about our society is the lazy assholes are the rich and the hard workers are poor,

If you were really his friend you would have told him to get off his lazy ass and earn it. Or better yet, the two of you would get off your lazy asses and earn it together. That's how capitalism is suppose to work. If you two shits are so great then create something the world needs.
By raising the standard of living.

Because there are people who legitimately believe you can seize the means of production and lead a meaningful life

I mean give everyone a Yacht a mansion a nice car and a good pool. Give everyone a lot of money.

>being rich
>no work
How is that bad?

You're a really bad troll

Under Socialist and Communist societies those Yachts will still be there. Just owned by the government and maybe the few corporations the government might allow to exist.

Only difference will be you can't openly complain about it or you get arrested.

I'll wait for your non-existent reply, but i'm not hoping for much beyond: 1 post by this Leaf ID

Who said join? I said take. Make a business selling hacked Droid boxes to old people to get start up money. Then take that money and invest into a new enterprise it can be anything from selling wallets to phone games it's not what you sell it is where you sell it and how. You hate rich people trick them out of their money it's what they did to you. Instead you'd rather argue philosophy and I can tell you that is a useless path if you crave wealth history will back me up. Stop blaming others for your problems and do something you and your friend are feeding each others lazy tendencies and ideals.

There are not enough things in the world for everyone to take as much as they want. They'll always want more.

>I want that shit so bad but because of capitalism i will never get it
How old are you?
Once you are 40, you can probably buy one of those boats used for a decent price if your credit is OK.
"Capitalism is broken!" cause you don't have the wealth of a retired old man, who's been working for 40 years?
Get out of here. Wealth isn't the same as income. Just save your money, or invest it.

>Friend spends his time oogling over other people's shit.
>Wonders why he can't afford anything
>LMFAO Zrumpf and capitalism BTFO

You're the kind of faggot that gives prols a bad name.

How about he work hard "TO GET THAT SHIT". Also, its funny as there never would be that yacht I'm the first place without capitalism.
Capitalism-you get what you work for
Socilialism-feed me crap just because I exist
Capitalism-consensual sex
Socialism-rape

>Has one of the highest paying job in the cities
Yeah sure

>get off his lazy ass and earn it Or better yet, the two of you would get off your lazy asses and earn it together. That's how capitalism is suppose to work. If you two shits are so great then create something the world needs.
Because if you work hard in capitalism you get thrown to the bottom and bullied by your boss. Only the 1% get anything. In capitalism those who deserve weath have it stolen

>Under Socialist and Communist societies those Yachts will still be there. Just owned by the government and maybe the few corporations the government might allow to exist.
No actually, in communist and socialist societies there is no government or corporations

>Only difference will be you can't openly complain about it or you get arrested.
Wrong

>I'll wait for your non-existent reply, but i'm not hoping for much beyond: 1 post by this Leaf ID
I already posted a ton

Torture is the word we use to describe when we cut off people's fingers and crush their testicles. Your friend is jealous. He is describing jealousy. It doesn't have anything to do with capitalism. People are jealous in communism, people are jealous in anarchy. Your friend is using an incorrect word to describe a reality of life and then blames it on something which is not strictly the source. Your friend is not wise nor is he saying anything which has substantial value.

In Africa? haha

You fucking moronic leaf. You're moving goalposts. If we redesign the standard previously defined as "rich" then everyone could be rich. What you're proposing isn't an improved economic structure - it's abandonment of "the fittest will survive." Don't you understand that the people with the most power/influence/money have it because most of them have worked for it? Even if their parents gave it to them, someone along the line had to accumulate that power/influence/money.

Look, the only real way any society has progressed was through its rich and powerful. The people at the bottom of the bucket didn't exactly make a name for themselves. That's not because "the man is keeping me down!" it's because they didn't and couldn't accomplish much. Whether or not they had the resources to do it, they didn't accomplish anything noteworthy.

Our civilization demands an upper-class.

Capitalism or not, Zipf's Law and Zipfian Distribution proves that a 1% will always exist in a scarecity-driven environment.

Get yourself and your friend educated. Also stay out of my neighbourhood. That's my lakeside promenade and I don't want any more dumb monkeys on it. We've already had too many!

Can I get that yacht for 4 million?

m8, these leftists are calling the current state of the world as "global apartheid" because borders are still relatively closed and there is inequality

they are coming for your ass too

anything other than physical aggression is feminine. feminine aggression is legal and a burden to society whereas, masculine aggression is illegal. males were built to dominate through physical force

So somehow he would get a yacht without capitalism?
Sage

You could not be any more wrong if you tried.

you can make an argument against capitalism by talking about the mindless struggle of people working hard/dangerous jobs that earn barely enough to sustain their family.
some lazy nigger who yells GIBS ME DAT SHIT does not really get my sympathy

Go back to leftypol you communist shit

>getting obsessed over material things

Hahahaha pathetic

Me and my friend both have some of the highest paying jobs in the city. We still can't afford that shit because the upper class runs it

>afford a Yacht
Only the 1% of the 1% can afford any of those.

After the cull, the rest of the population will be rich and machines will do most of the work.

What makes you think you deserve what others have worked for? Do you think you are entitled to it because you want it? If you want it why not let it motivate you to do something productive so that you may earn that? Don't you realize that without the ups and downs, the good and bad there is no contrast. If there is no contrast then everything eventually loses it's meaning.

How do you give all that and if you do then what do you do when the newest luxury comes out and you have to finance that for everyone what happens to the old iphone and yachts do you tell some to go without? That would gp against this ideology you sound like you guys got high at the peer and we're day dreaming. Like did you just listen to "imagine" and think yeah lenons ideology was perfect!

Once you get these things you no longer want them

Because under capitalism the harder you work the more gets stolen

Capitalism - The harder you work, the less you get since your boss takes everything

Socialism - Get what you work for.

>In my hypothetical, theoretical, non-existent society for the point of this argument
IT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM GUYS IT'S NEVER BEEN TRIED BEFORE!
Fuck off and gas yourself.
pic related

that's illegal.

>stop blaming others
Blaming yourself for your problems is a symtom of mental illnses.

He's still living better than he would under total socialism communism

>"I want that shit so bad but because of capitalism i will never get it
well your friend is a retard (or a lazy retard).

tell him to work harder til he can afford it.

>Me and my friend both have some of the highest paying jobs in the city.
Wow! That's fucking torture man. Soooooo close, yet still soooooo far. How can you live with that torture user?

Are you like 15?

You haven't worked an honest day of your life, have you?

Oh your friend is also a materialistic retard that gets uppity for not having a yacht but he can't realize how lucky he is to live in a first world country and a big city with tons of activities and services as well as opportunities to one day get a yacht (provided they work hard).

Your friend sounds like a lazy and unthankful nigger.

Just want to pop in and say that selectively breeding ones offspring to be super smart and talented, by way of Eutelegenisis, would help everyone become rich.

Must be easy to get shit in India.

Name one economic system that will get more people yachts than capitalism.

It's fucking torture.

Cleptocracy.

Lol no they arent

I don't know how much it is

He's proving a point

No

People with the most money are lazy pieces of shit with poor genes. Look at society, the underclass try to work but the rich are holding them down.

Society would not function if people were satisfied and not yearning for more.

For example, if everyone was a heroin addict, everyone would simply sit in a room and take heroin, and we'd all die, because there wouldn't be anyone to farm, or drill for oil, or build or do anything.

All your friend proved is that people cause their own misery through jealousy and other vices. It's not what happens to you, it's how to respond to it that will determine your happiness.

This. Achieve Gnosis instead.

It wouldn't be that difficult to afford something like that. The thing is, even if he got it he'd just want something else. That's why he'll never be able to enjoy anything, and will always shit on people who are enjoying what they've earned.

>Socialism - Get what you work for.
Except for the 50% that goes to Ta'kwandah and her 20 niglets.

more pants-on-head posting by america's hat

Fucking retard

In what universe does your friend get a yacht without capitalism or being born a richfag?

>not realizing Stalin had a Yacht
Enjoy your ban

First off your feminine, and second if that was true then masculinity is toxic.

your friend needs to chill out. we can't all have boats because of scarcity, i.e. there are only so many boats that can be made, only so much space at the marina, only so much lake water... etc.

everyone having boats is unfeasible. if you work hard or are lucky, you can have goodies.

Because the thing is me and you work really hard right? However you look at these rich guys they don't work at all they stole everything.

Capitalism is his only chance at getting it, and the best part is he'll need to improve other peoples lives in order to get it. Tell him to invent something, without hitting the lotto, that's by far the quickest way. 70% of US millionaires are self made.

>He proves that for the bottom 90% capitalism is essentially torture.

No, that's YOUR asserted conclusion! You are stupid and bait poorly.

Your friend is weak and even more stupid. He should be learning how to get money, then working to get money, not crying about not having TOYS he doesn't need to survive.

You stupid cunts make your own problems then wallow in your shittiness. I smell Millenial.

Canada is comfy as fuck. You don't know starvation or war, yet you cry. You cannot fall out of your Socialist safety net, but you think you are tortured by anything but yourselves.

Why are you failures? Why do you waste time wanting instead of hustling to GET more of the things you want?

Leafposters are without exception self-pitying cunts. You disgust me. You deserve to be invaded by Pajeet. Pajeet is so eager for money he leave home. What exactly do YOU do? Oh, that's right, cry on Liberian panga sharpening boards.

Without capitalism, most of that shit wouldn't exist. And in places without capitalism, only the super elite ruling class can get it, if at all.

Sounds more like envy is torture.

no one should have yachts. no one should own anything that they themselves did not build.

this is the reason why ayys aint revealing themselves to the world, cuz of gibsmedat apes who would want UFOs but dont have the ability themselves to produce them

you can thank anglos giving away science and technology to every known monkey on this planet.
if the anglos kept their tech to themselves, the world would remain peasant serfs and underpopulated

He'll never get it because he's a lazy imbecile with no capacity for high-level thought. Retards deserve to be poor.

"Rich" is a relative term. The poorest communities in the United States today have higher living standards than the kind of France 300 years ago. But I shouldn't expect a low IQ retard like yourself to understand this basic fact.

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>illegal.
You've shown how little you now about politics and law. That's only illegal in the UK land of peace. Not to mention your friend would throw away his whole ideology if he was rich himself. He'd have to give all of his materialistic wealth to uphold such a idea and from his desires it's obvious he wouldnt.

It's you who doesn realize you have been brainwashed to think backward. You are not suppose to convince yourself you are still OK because their's people worst than you. You are suppose to want better not just compare yourself with the worst. You sound like a brainwashed slave with a regressive ideology.

Sure buddy sure

>hurr capitalism has never been tried
Please tell me you have cancer

No matter how much money, sex, drugs, adventures or whateve you have. None of this can quench your thirst for transient happiness. Materialism is destructive in nature.

>No actually we're not envious NEETs really.

Sure, commie.

get fucked commie

Wow it's almost like desire is suffering

Then work harder, faggot.

Under socialism he'd be rich

If you work hard in capitalism the 1% comes steals your home and forces you to be homeless.

I'd advise you to visit Sup Forums after you are 18 and have a basic knowledge of what you are talking about. And go fucking read a history book.

>Because under capitalism the harder you work the more gets stolen
Doesn't happen
>Capitalism - The harder you work, the less you get since your boss takes everything
No one is topping you from leaving that job and starting your own business
>Socialism - Get what you work for.
Nigga wot? Its like you aren't even trying hard to hide the bait.
India like any other major economy, is a mix of socialism with a bit of capitalism.

Yes he proved you make your own reality he chose to be petty and envious lashing out at others rather than being virtuous and looking inward

>You are brainwashed because you don't want a yacht
>You're supposed to be materialistic and envious

Sorry, I don't think like a nigger so this shit doesn't fly with me.

Don't you mean National Socialism?

That yacht is only there because of capitalism though.

That's materialism, not capitalism.

It's a well established psychological phenomenon that after having enough money to get by, extra money doesn't make you any happier.

Let them LARP like 50s WASPS with yachts and country clubs; it's no skin off your back.

>leafs are dumb entitled and lazy the thread.

Based pajeet

I think of it not in ideological terms but math

You produce = you get. Produce less value get less value

>because of capitalism i will never get it

because of capitalism i have a chance to get it

FIFY

>Except for the 50% that goes to Ta'kwandah and her 20 niglets.
More torture. Only the middle classes who desire the trinkets of the rich pay 50%. The rich often pay nothing

It's hard but we manly use escapism like Sup Forums we can't even go to the fucking beech because we see these yachts and it drives us nuts

I have worked for my dads company since i was 16 actually

>work hard
If you work hard in capitalism the 1% come and take away everything you own

Except then if everyones rich then it would be harder to get a job since harder competition