Does anyone on Sup Forums work for themselves? I've been in the building industry my whole life...

Does anyone on Sup Forums work for themselves? I've been in the building industry my whole life, and worked other random jobs along the way but looking into setting up and going alone. I feel like there is no other way to feel truly free from the constraints of working life without working for yourself.

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I work for myself but I do it for free, does that count?

No it doesn't. It needs to afford you your chosen life style without being in anyone else's pocket or stepping on anyone else's toes.

so... you don't have customers?

providing a service for their money and not paying up to anyone else apart from taxes, which I don't mind as I enjoy public services. I mean not being in someone else's pocket and taking from them and giving nothing back, or screwing someone over to get a job in some shit company I don't care about.

Working for yourself is the easiest (only?) way to self-liberation. I guess it depends on what you want out of life. I tend to prefer free time over lots of money, though, so I'm kinda drawn to self-employment where I could work the hours I needed to make the money I wanted, without being stuck in wagie hell.

I work for myself as a photographer and transator. I make as much money as I would do in a full time job (40hrs a week) at minimum wage but I work from home and about half the time. I spend most of my time promoting myself and looking for new customers more that actually photographing or translating. Its also lonely, but thats great if you view everyone else on the planet as a fucking cunt. You never know if you will get any income and it does get close to zero sometimes and then suddenly you get a avalanche of jobs all at the same time, so you can't plan for shit.

My previous employment situations were a fucking nightmare and I felt like I was back at school with al the office politics, jargon, and socialising, so what I do now is heaven compared. I just don't get enough to save or reliably borrow since I can't guarantee my income.

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youll never fly alone

Also, any jobs paid in cash are tax free if you dont tell anyone.

>I spend most of my time promoting myself and looking for new customers more that actually photographing or translating.

This is what no one expects when they start a business. If you have a network already, just start your own insurance business, get your network to switch, and make bank.

Im self employed in pest control and last year i made over 50k

Have my own van, the more i work the more i earn, all my customers are great.

I used to work in a shipyard in Birkenhead, so its much better.

Can you tell us roughly what you do?

the downside is trying to find the sweetspot of mostly passive income and customer tit for tat. requires a lot of trust and grit.

I'm still in employment. I'm just working to escape wagie hell by putting most of my free time into study to develop a skill.

Fair enough. Good luck m8.

Yeah that's the beauty. You just have to prove yourself into a certain tax bracket.

That sounds like the life.

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what is it you are looking at getting in to?

Also just a side note I am from England I'm just traveling NZ.

I've worked for myself for nigh on 30 years as it is Comfy. As. Fuck.

The downside is I never know on Monday if I'll have work on Thursday. Living with that insecurity is the hardest part.

Job: freelance tech support

I like IT because you can work all over the country from your office.

Translation. I'm somewhat gifted when it comes to languages (but not very motivated, at least until recently), so mastery of two languages and a knack for effective translation between them has the potential to make me a decent amount of money. It's just a case of developing the skill-set and building a portfolio and promoting myself.

I'm self employed in the building game. Used to be a plumber working for a company. I hated having all the politics (yep, it exists in the building game too) you don't get along with supervisor or senior plumbers and you get given the shitty jobs that take hours longer than they should which affects your income.

I got out and set up on my own, sub contracting in the beginning until my work built up. I got a lot of work from a landlord. He started calling on me to do other small jobs. I now only work with six large landlords and do all maintenance on their properties. I bring in people when I must but mainly work on my own. I can go weeks without seeing another person (tenants tend to be at work when I call, I prefer it that way).

Money is good. My time is mine. I hate people so it works for me. It can be incredibly lonely if you don't enjoy your own company.

Yeah I always see free lance interpreter jobs online. Good money too. It seems like it is a niche market and if you can get a start in it and people keep coming back to you then you can earn some pretty serious money.

This is relevant to me. I know what you mean about building politics though, especially on the bigger jobs, so many cunts in the building game.

When you set up, did you register your company name straight away? And if you did how did you go about it?

well, interpreter pays a lot better than written translation, but it's also a lot more demanding.

Also, there are lots of contracted or even permanent placements for translators that pay decently if I feel the need.

The beauty of choices.

Literally anyone can do it mate, as long as you are not retarded, it's very slow to begin with the first year or two, but after you have a few contracts who you visit routinely its pretty chill, the rest is reaction work where you get a call on the day and either fix it that day or arrange a day in the future.

Not, yet, mate.
But one day...
Everybody will work for me.

No need to register a name or company in the UK. Not sure if it's different in Oz?

I started putting feelers out for subby work while I was still at the company. Once I started getting calls I handed in my notice.

I still don't have a 'company name' it's me and my telephone number, thats it. It works by word of mouth. I only work for people who have been recommended by other people I've worked for. I avoid the cunts, slow payers and moaners. If I don't get paid, I contact their friend who gave them my number, that usually embarrasses them enough to pay me.

I'm a sole trader. I'm registered self employed. I keep my income under the VAT threshold because that's a lot of work for very little reward.

Work for myself. Would rather not give details or industry. Just know that when everybody's work day ends yours is just beginning with all the business stuff you have to do on top of working. The expression is "working 80 (hours) to avoid working 40 (hours)." You don't want capitalization and savings to prevent you from starting a business but just understand it takes a lot of money to operate a business. I had significant savings from my old job and still almost went bankrupt with loans and credit cards when I first started my business.

what languages?

same question, what languages? Just curious

Is translating work easy to come by? what language d'you translate?

English and Japanese.

Between English and German.
Germany is always the biggest market (outside the UK) for UK based online retailers, so its valuable to translate the product descriptions and customer service emails between the two. All the customer service email are just,
>"where is my order?"
>>>"where is my order?"
>>>>"where is my order?"
>>>>>"Oh, it just arrived!"
I get translation work looking on gumtree and Im registered for email alerts with top language jobs, proZ, fiverr, freelance.com and many others.
I also mention once I get the job that I can photo their products as well and so I end I getting that job too.
Seems to work well together.
Also, I have no qualifications in either. I just lived in Germany for a while, learned the language, came back to UK, got a job translating emails, my boss asked my if I can take photos, so I learned to take photos of products.
Now I do both from home at my own leisure. I do it in the middle of the night sometimes if I can't sleep and send the work to my customer first thing in the morning so she thinks im fucking awesome.

self employed for 17 years already

now and then you hit rock bottom but wouldn't trade it for a job, ever

how is your Japanese ability? Have you lived here before?

It must be a wonderful feeling to translate between two languages that have similar grammar and don't involve horrible things like technical instructions that don't specify whether the screws are singular or plural since the language doesn't have singular or plural forms

The articles change depending on plural or singular and they change again depending on case and gender of the noun, so its a bit strange at first but once you get used to it German is basically English with a weird accent.

I scrabbled for years , raising kids, working for others.... never got ahead at all.

Shitty houses, shitty cars.... even had to get food stamps a couple times. Never enough money.

10 years ago, started selling shit on ebay, just a hobby wife-user, if I can make a couple hundred a week, will be like a 2nd job.

Did research, found a good niche market, got proactive, made contacts.

Now my wife, son, and myself, do 250K a year gross.... 150K a year net. Work 8 hours some days, work 2 hours some days. Every weekend off. Have nice house, car, and pick up truck.

Not rich, but comfy as fuck.... feels good man

Have my own site now, no more ebay. Was doing 10K a month on Amazon, but they threw me off.
(Don't allow some of my products anymore.)

I do.

I work MUCH longer hours..but I keep dampened near all of the money.

Just remember ALL of your clients/customers become your boss before you strike out on your own.

I've been a self-employed translator for 10 years now.
That means I have almost no business expenses outside of computer, car, office.

There's pros and cons, as with anything.

- Working from home:
>no traffic jams or stress to get to work
>never again did I find myself watching the clock or counting down the days (ymmv)
but
>it's easy to neglect going outside at all
>also no feeling of satisfaction upon coming home from a long day's work

- The money:
>I'm fast and good, can pretty easily make 1k Euros in a day
but
>you get raped on taxes, so you better have some smart expenses (i.e. put as much into your house as you can)

I've heard a lot of people say they don't have the self-discipline to adhere to deadlines when they're their own boss, but I never had an issue with this at all.

I've only been studying seriously for a month so far. I've dabbled in studying it in the past though a few times over several years (though without a real goal so my motivation dried up quickly). I've got a good sense for pronunciation and a lot of spoken vocabulary (though not yet the grammatical constructs to make proper use of it).

Intonation is probably the part I'm most concerned about as I don't want to sound like a retard and have people misunderstand me all the time. That and I guess godan/ichidan verb conjugation as from what I've been told it's a lot of stuff I have to "just learn" with no real way to predict.

I've only been on holiday there once about ten years ago. I'm planning on staying in Japan for several months once I've gotten all of the basics down, though.

E-cigs?

So what do you sell?

I draw titties for a living. Make very little money but still it's fucking amazing. Could make more if I worked harder, but won't slave away just for the jew to take their cut. Also I'm not a materialist, consumer-lifestyle is for normies. I value being able to live a chill life of pol shitposting, endless researching and learning more. I've studied the fuck out of the JQ and read countless obscure and old publications on archive.org, it's incredibly intellectually stimulating. Problem is you are so ahead of everyone else in having conclusively demonstrable knowledge, that conversation irl become a pain in the ass. So I endlessly pidgeonhole myself into solitude. But I'm happy.

Self employed/small business owner here. Started 4 years ago. Put in a shitload of hours being a wagecuck for 5 years with asshole employer. I had my own reasons though. They thought it was great that I could fill in for marketing and I was the golden boy. I left and called all the contacts i made when i was with them. Now theyre down to about a quarter of thr staff and im over a million in gross sales and take home well into 6 figures. As mentioned previously, the only stress is that I am the one that ensures there's food on the table. No work no paycheck, but I will flat out tell you the level of stress is 20% of what it was working for those assholes.

I'm writing a movie script right now, does that count?

Hooray for the gray market!

Trying to get started in the playing video games for a living on Twitch lottery, but can't get any views. I'm not particularly entertaining nor that great at games, but those traits do not seem to have stopped plenty of others. I've also been blogging for half a year now but still no traction there either. Any of you guys know how to build an online following? I'm too antisocial to get involved with groups of people who do such things, but I think I might need to if I want success.

Whats the most relevant skills for running a biz? What your business do?

>I'm writing a movie script right now, does that count?

about as much as all those neets making video games and writing books

literally hang yourself

I left my full time job after I became sick of lining the pockets of my bosses whilst struggling to get what I wanted out of my life for me and my family. I always had a passion for photography and decided to make the jump. Three years later I'm working within the movie industry and commercial sector making more money per shoot than I did in one month at 40 hrs per week. It's a simple formula, you find the clients that have shit loads of money and price yourself to what you think you're worth. I would never EVER go back into regular employment.

Okay, why doesn't it count as self employment? I'm working myself to create a product for the public to use in exchange for currency. That should be enough to qualify it as self employment.

because you're almost certainly going to fail. Get a job and contribute to society. Write your shitty self-insert fanfic in your own time.

>because you're almost certainly going to fail.
Or I could have unique enough ideas as well as enough determination and motivation to try again should I fail that I would eventually succeed.
>Get a job and contribute to society.
I have one at university, but I am looking for another one on Craigslist. This work is being done on my own time.
Also It's not "shitty self-insert fan fiction". You haven't even read the synopsis. Do you want me to post it?

>Do you want me to post it?
Unless it's about a vampire revenging against his brother (also a vampire), no.