1 TIMOTHY 2 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
1 PETER 3 1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. 7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
COLLOSSIANS 3 18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. 19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them. 20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
This is not sexist, women are naturally more emotional and "good hearted" than men, this is why they lean more towards socialist policies and are more likely to be liberal, they think more emotionally and are more easy to deceive. They need a man whether it's their father or husband to protect them
the real christianity each time i hear one of those "christians" modern and feminists i want to stab them
Caleb Richardson
It doesn't mention injuns
Cooper Sanders
Redundant and written by kikes
Joseph Morris
All the Lutheran and united churches around me have fag flags, the Lutheran churches ALL have a woman priest
Robert Ross
God isn't a Kike
Alexander Gonzalez
they should read your epistles more, Prince of the Apostles.
Alexander Harris
catholic church is shit too except lefebres crew
Michael Bennett
It's so tragic that Christianity, one of the biggest builders of the European identity, had been browbeaten into not even having real beliefs anymore, just singing about loving Jesus and forgiving degenerates when we used to burn them.
I agree, ALL the mainstream churches are wrong! They are all idolatrous, they worship false man made traditions and ignore half the bible!
Nicholas Peterson
nothing wrong with man made traditions and icons
its when people start forgetting what they actually mean when the shit starts
Hunter Richardson
I go to a mega church and just last week they were talking about how women need to learn to learn to submit to their husbands
Xavier Roberts
That's wrong
Mark 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
The church puts man made doctrine at the forefront of its belief, that is the Unholy trinity! The bible makes clear Jesus and God are separate, Jesus is standing at the right hand of God in the Kingdom of Heaven, Jesus was tempted to sin by Satan for 40 days, God on the other hand cannot be tempted or tempt! This man made doctrine was invented by the Roman Emperor Constantine at the council of Nicaea in the fourth century. The early church did not believe this false man made doctrine.
Easton Evans
This is what my church follows it seems
Isaac Jones
Trusting (((Saul))) on anything
Andrew Nelson
If a woman enters the pulpit you should stand up and quote op and leave, it is an unchristian. Allowing unrepentant sodomites to enter the church at all is sin upon the whole church.
Lincoln Bailey
>mega church with $700,000 sound system >actually Christian That's a lot of kids coats and hot meals there huh?
Eve fucked Satan. That was her sin. Adam fucked his sloppy seconds and changed her from his "help meet" to his wife, creating the temporary fix known as marriage that exists nowhere else and won't in the future, to fix their own corruption
Robert Peterson
Yes because it was invented in the 4th century,
James 1:13 Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God,” for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one. Matthew 4:1 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. Mark 1:12-13 The Spirit immediately drove him out into the wilderness. And he was in the wilderness forty days, being tempted by Satan. And he was with the wild animals, and the angels were ministering to him. Luke 4:1-2 And Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit in the wilderness for forty days, being tempted by the devil. And he ate nothing during those days. And when they were ended, he was hungry. Hebrews 4:15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.
Hunter Murphy
You should be whipped for this blasphemy
Carter Scott
So tell me about born eunuchs little buddy and why marriage parable doesn't apply to them. Was she not his help meet and then later his wife? Enmity between her seed? And the seed of the serpent? Such blasphemy. Why did only she transgress? Why do women have no place in religions? Why do they have menstruations that make them unclean? Prove to me there are marriages in Heaven. Prove to me there are females in Heaven. Prove to me men can be raped by fallen angels. Don't you know anything about head scarves and long hair? In gospel of Thomas Christ changed a woman into a man just to be able to talk to the offended disciples but I guess only you can push against what you see as false doctrine with your attacks on the trinity. Nobody else can talk only you
Isaiah Perez
Why did this happen?
Zachary Reed
Why is the only restriction on the entrance into the 144,000 "no vaginas and no touching of vaginas in any way"? Hrm? You are a "grab ems" "Christian". You ignore all these facts and use anachronistic terms like "fags" "homosexes" and "gays" to describe your own Molech sodomy?
Luis Brooks
Exactly. Fuck the semitic bullshit.
Angel Davis
What are you rambling on about?
Dominic Diaz
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Colton Morris
Are you an illiterate? You don't even give a shit because you're so brainwashed. The female reproductive system looks exactly like a satanic pentagram. Only woman is so gullible and not of the ground like males to be enticed by satan's wiles. King david being bisexual. You dont know the verbs. The centurion. Regular eunuchs in Isaiah. It is proven fact none of this exists spiritually. You're probably deceived by the shekinah hoax
Tyler Richardson
Jesus was fully man and fully divine. He is an extension of God, but exists as a seperate entity and the same. God made himself flesh so that he could understand his creation and how we live, why we sin, how we suffer.
Hudson Cruz
Jesus is the son of God, Jesus was tempted if God was tempted he is not God. Why is it hard for you to accept the bible, but you can so easily accept what a Roman Emperor made up? Do you believe everything the authorities tell you? Don't forget, diversity is our strength :^)
Josiah Morris
Isaiah 40:17 also was Jesus successfully tempted? No. Did God not communicate with Satan in the Job story? Same thing, no? Also what does Trinity have to do with the females you're defending off topic of this thread?
Kayden Taylor
>"based" leaf still acts like a leaf
Hunter Watson
What do you mean? I'm not "defending" women, I can't justify why they do what they do. They are the weaker sex, this is common sense they need a man to guide them and take care of them or they will be manipulated. Look at the left wing parties, they use women to their advantage! If more women accepted their place as a mother and protector of children instead of being told the right thing for a woman to do is to fornicate and murder her kid we would NEVER have a liberal government. We need men only in politics, women are too easily abused and manipulated. And yeah, Jesus didn't sin, but he was still tempted. The bible flat out says GOD CANNOT BE TEMPTED Jesus WAS for fourty days
Adam Allen
I told you why and you called it blasphemy. God made bets with Satan regarding Job. God won. Christ was in the same kind of communication and also never lost. Seems you might be missing a few pieces here. You say Christ was "tempted". In the past tense. As though He lost. He spoke with him. He didn't submit. The passage you put about God says He cannot be tempted by evil. Not "by Satan". And that we can't blame Him for our being tempted. Did Christ do this? No. I don't understand how your making Christ out to be only a man means He was tempted. Why do you belittle Him so? Satan goes up and down all the time trying to mock us and Christ is only one defending us. Christ existed with God before the foundations of the world. God has no Creator. Christ probably doesn't either and yes can simultaneously be His Son. You put a passage saying Christ was WITH the Holy Spirit. So that to me seems they are one in the same. Why doesn't your separation work with The Holy Spirit then?
Isaac Fisher
So Satan isn't evil? That explains a lot about you Catholics
Ryan Edwards
If Christ is the same as God you are God, the bible says we are all one with Christ, using your Logic I'm God and your God and Obama is God
Connor Jackson
>It's bad to have sex Outside of marriage it is but inside it isn't... What am I missing here? I've never heard my church condemning sex inside marriage...
Gavin Sullivan
>What am I missing here? The author in other posts lays out biblically based reasoning for sex=marriage. In other words as soon as a guy take's a girl's virginity then she is his wife and he is her husband.
Hunter Perez
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Hudson Bailey
>This is not sexist, women are naturally more emotional and "good hearted" than men, this is why they lean more towards socialist policies and are more likely to be liberal, they think more emotionally and are more easy to deceive. They need a man whether it's their father or husband to protect them
'Cept they're to be treated equal now. They can fucking fend for themselves now. That an be marched as cannon fodder into the next war.
Enjoy equality cunts.
Jonathan Cooper
Hmmmm. To me one can be married to someone once the couple agrees to be married. For example, a man and a woman decide they want to get married and want to do it then and there, therefore they are married...
I've never heard much about this concept your saying at my church. Apparently my church has rules for dating and one of the rules is that the couple can't be alone together (must be another person nearby to make sure they don't have premarital sex)
^Now this is really confusing.
Owen Wood
We need to bring the bible back into schools and equip young girls for a future as a wife and a mother, right now we are destroying the future generations.
The bible does say if you have sex with a virgin woman you have to marry her and pay the father a fine. Marriage ceremonies are man made tradition, the bible doesn't explain how to marry Jesus just says man and woman will cleave into one.
Wyatt Barnes
>the bible doesn't explain how to marry Interesting... I'd like to talk to an elder at my church about this topic...
The way I see it is: Two virgins agree to get married and once the decision is made that they're married they are.
Only sex is not sin when both are married to each other.
Michael Peterson
Deuteronomy 22:28 says If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
Modern bibles like the NIV translate this to Rape to show how evil Christianity is but it very clearly says lay with her, when the bible talks about rape it says lay with her and force her or something along those lines.
Deuteronomy 22:29 says Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
You pay the father the dowry which was normal all throughout history, and then marry her.
Grayson Harris
For reference Deuteronomy 22:25 says But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:
It very clearly says Force her, and says the man will die but not the woman. I have heard some people argue that this is only for betrothed women, but the bible says that the woman doesn't deserve death, in Deuteronomy 22:27 it explains For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.
She cried out but nobody saved her, I think you can be "betrothed" without knowing your husband, you have committed yourself to your future husband whoever he may be even if you've never met yet.
Isaac Johnson
My church uses the nkjv for english and another one for russian
>Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, Is that supposed to happen today? What does it mean to everyone who never done that?
>If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; This is a grey area for me, if they didn't agree that they're getting married at that moment then that is per-marital sex.
Elijah Barnes
Hmmmm.
I don't know desu. I'd have to discuss this with some other people at my church... They'll probably clear it up
Benjamin Williams
We still kind of do, we give a ring but that's to our wife not the father. The concept of a dowry is taught now to be sexist and humiliating, I don't see how personally. Yeah it is fornication, the bible says fornication is a sin, but I think what it saying here is that if you do fornicate, but marry each other you're in the safe, maybe I'm wrong though and this isn't something I would want to teach because I think too many young people would fornicate thinking "oh but we will get married after so it's okay" and then end up breaking up.
Jayden Foster
>We still kind of do, we give a ring but that's to our wife not the father. The concept of a dowry is taught now to be sexist and humiliating, I don't see how personally. I don't exactly see a point in doing it t b h other than tradition.
The way I see/have seen/heard a couple getting married is like this: >A couple decides they would like to get married >The man then talks to her parents/father (possibly it's both parents) >They agree that the couple can date, Rules are set etc. >Eventually the male proposes if it's all going well >Marriage then consummation of it.
Doesn't have to be exactly that but the main thing is the agreement of getting married. (One brother proposed straight up outside the church (I think he just asked her if they wanted to get married and she said sure) and then they got married at a later time)
>too many young people would fornicate thinking "oh but we will get married after so it's okay" and then end up breaking up. Pretty much. I'd say just tell them that as long as they agree that they are now a married couple then they're married (preferably with a witness, might as well just ask the pastor or elder) Although I think the way that my church does it is that they actually talk to the couple in private (I don't know for how long) to make sure they want to get married and then probably pray over the couple.
