I found out a friend of mine is an unironic communist/Marxist when I thought he was just meming. Needless to say I was very dissapointed, he sent me this picture (of course it was from redit) as well as stating that the kulaks deserved what happened to them. I argued fine against the kulaks thing but I didn't know what to say regarding pic related though I'm pretty sure much of it is blatantly wrong.
Tldr; can Sup Forums refute pic related and the murder of kulaks as well as a general anti commie meme thread
I forgot to mention this one is especially appropriate since he gave me the whole "employment is basically exploitation and slavery" schpiel. I know he's smarter than this,he's funny as hell, gets great grades and is an engineering major, hence my disappointment
Kevin Campbell
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Owen Gutierrez
I've mentioned much of these points to him but of course the response is "we've learned from those mistakes"
Hunter Price
If white people are so great why are they failing ? If natsoc germany was so great why did it fail ? If capitalism is so great why is it crumbling down ?
Christopher Kelly
>If white people are so great why are they failing ? Jews >If natsoc germany was so great why did it fail ? Jews >If capitalism is so great why is it crumbling down ? Jews
Elijah Allen
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Jonathan Ramirez
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Carter Hughes
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Evan Murphy
"Jordan Peterson: A history lesson for political radicals"
lmao they got this from the /ban/t pixelcanvas thread.
hahahahaha.
Cooper Wilson
>That argument
Isn't the same one that's copy and pasted into the /cuck/ general on here and always gets BTFO, basically because it isn't true and the parts that are true aren't true in the way you think they are (eg >Zero unemployment, but there was also zero unemployment among niggers before the emancipation proclamation etc). People who are Communist don't understand Communism is what it basically comes down to.
Lucas Lopez
Makes a some good points about capitalism, but is usually is just spouted by resentful ideologues. It's a political weapon used by elites (jews) so they can benefit from it.
Adam Russell
We're going to need some sources on those statements. I suspect that they are just plain wrong.
Wasn't soviet russia known for making up statistics that show forexample that they have increased bread production by 200%, but in reality there was a lack of food?
Mason Ross
The sad part is, while this sounds like a bullshit answer, any amount of scrutiny confirms it.
Michael Mitchell
Tell him to read the gulag archipelago. While our justice system is far from perfect, it is no where near as fucked as commie fags.
Ryan Roberts
If "switch to capitalism" means "hear statistics not from the propaganda department" it's bulletproof.
Matthew Roberts
lol @ end famine >starve people to death >famine successfully ended
Ryder Jones
>Lenin seizes power after a small firefight >Civil War breaks out >Soviets burn down villages suspected of helping the White army >Lenin racks up a massive debt because of war >He switches to a capitalist system to pay off war debts >Lenin dies and a skirmish breaks out and Trotsky flees to Mexico and Stalin takes power >Stalin initiates the 5 year plans to help the Soviet Union to become modern >Barely manages to get electricity out to Siberia >Instates the gulags during this time >Many pro soviet officers get sent to prison and die in the gulags Most of this is a lie or is sarcastic. The only reason the Soviet economy was growing was because of capitalist policies that Lenin instated and the slave labor from the gulags.
Adrian Sanders
Can't starve your own people if there are no people to starve.
Camden Cooper
>employment is basically exploitation and slavery So why does he like the ''fact'' the the soviet union had zero unemployment?
Robert Myers
Being controlled opposition, they'll be ready to counter you should you actually pose a legit threat to them.
Rather than reduce the number of hungry people, simply reduce the number of people.
Gavin Anderson
Literally all if the list is overexagerated or a lie The russian empire was already on the road to industrialization, the soviet union simply took over the reins
Hes forgetting the most important achievement > supppsedly greatest nation collapses after less than a century >greatest legacy is littering the world with cheap firearms for africans to kill one another
Lucas Taylor
I dare you to prove communism doesn't work
>Pro tip: You can't
Gavin Baker
>refute pic related
Read a fucking book, asshole, if you're too lazy just talk to someone who actually lived in Soviet Russia.
Elijah Russell
The faggot has never lived in a communist country so he doesn't know it's absolute shit.
Luke Gray
>be 2nd fastest growing economy of the 20th century after? >have zero unemployment People were employed but they didn't work. >end famine Guess who didn't have one in the first place? >have most doctors per capita That's Israel >double life expectancy Compared to czarist Russia? Congratulations
Austin Gray
I think diversity is antithetical to class struggle. In a diverse society, people focus on their differences in race, because they're in close proximity to people who are clearly nothing like them. However in a monoracial society people would actually be able to focus on class differences because the most apparent differences would be that of wealth. I'm not a communist by any means, but I think communists who don't understand this are missing a huge detail.
Jonathan Sanchez
>>greatest legacy is littering the world with cheap firearms for africans to kill one another Don't forget leaving radioactive shit all over the place, if any terrorist blows up a dirty bomb somewhere it will probably be from some old soviet light house that some terrorist pounded to dust and mixed with sand.
Brayden Young
It was so fucking great that they had to build a wall with fences and minefields to keep people from leaving.
What a great system.
James Morgan
Question Sup Forums: Does your average normie know Stalin murdered and starved to death 20 million+ of his own people? Genuinely curious.
Jordan James
Bulgarians, even older people who lived 30+ years under communism, don't know what a gulag is, and I'm talking about people who hate that regime.
Does that answer your question?
Jeremiah Young
>90% of those are lies that only the craziest of tankies take seriously >This supposed utopia fell apart in less than 100 years
>2nd fastest growing economy Yeah industrializing tends to do that, would have happened if the Tsars maintained power. Read the End of the Russian Empire >zero unemployment Propaganda, they literally just said "x is over" and didn't even track it or revised the estimates they were given. >Have continuous economic growth Very shoddy numbers are of course used, revised estimates put economic growth much lower than the USSR or even the CIA said. >have zero homelessness See zero unemployment >End famine Simply not true, occasional famine continued throughout Eastern Russia during the USSR's entire existence. Famines were reduced (only after millions dead in Ukraine) though, not thanks to collectivization or communist policies. >Have higher caloric consumption See unemployment. Unlike unemployment I can't even believe a communist would believe this, because it is so absurd. >End racial inequality They did a better job than the US, but no still had problems >End sex inequality See racial inequality >Make all education free It was a pretty well known secret that friends of the gov't got into substantially better universities through no merit of their own, while at the same time the quality of education outside of Moscow was inconsistent and often poor. >99% literacy See zero unemployment >have most doctors per capita See zero unemployment >eliminate poverty See zero unemployment >double life expectancy This is true, but given the technological progress throughout the 20th century and industrialization, it should have. >Be 25 years away from reaching parity They always were, weren't they? Not like Japan achieved parity with the West in the same time span as the Soviet Union existed, not like South Korea did the same thing. It was always "almost there" never was "there"
Gabriel Carter
Exactly my point, the sources are worse than an average info graphic on here (ie none)
Levi Martinez
He's barely 20 so hopefully he'll grow out of it
Logan Rivera
The only response is that Socialist countries literally have the destruction of capitalism built into their rhetoric, if your ideology is incapable of withstanding a natural act of self preservation against those you are supposedly going to "inevitably defeat", maybe your ideology is shit. Communists funded militant rebels, and they also formed COMECON and provided plenty of aid to each other which should have counteracted the "economic embargo" (of which there was few, nor were they ever stringent enough to force citizens into revolution) Yes and half those stats come straight from the USSR without any sort of skepticism. Also another point for the 2nd fastest growing economy, Commies have a tendency of using piss poor base years to determine this.
Long live Lenin, Stalin, and Mao. Slow, painful death to all bourgeois reactionaries.
Thomas Walker
Amen comrade
John Hill
gere's the reason they had the resources of a couple of countries, they stole goods from countries like Poland or other slav countries and fueled their own growth
