Is universal basic income communism?

is universal basic income communism?

no

yes

no

HOW?!

It's literally government-enforced redistribution of goods.

To clarify, it's a step toward communism that merely rebrands whatever existing social saftey network exists under the aegis of the latest numbers game that's closer to True Communism such we move closer to the elimination of money and the collectivization of property.

that's socialism, workers dont own the means of production .

Milton Friedman supported it, he called it a "negative income tax" which is pretty ironic

yes.Now fuck off

I support having zero income tax, like the US did up until rather recently.

Simultaneously, I support Ontario trying UBI so we can see how well it works in practice.

It considered general niggary. So, yes.

It's socialism

Yes.

Yes

First they start off generous, to make it seem a good thing. It becomes widespread and the norm. People give more control to the government, after all, it's free money.

Over time the countries start to dissappear, and only an handful of federations exist.

Centralization takes place until we become one world ruled by one government, who controls the income of its goyim. They start shrinking how much you earn, Your allowance. Large numbers die of hunger and poverty jsut like in Soviet Union. Since society now works as a cashless system because people accepted the idea of getting rid of physical money there is no way to trade goods without the supervision of the banks. Banks can also freeze people's money who dissent the government. Society has now been fully enslaved.

Agreed. Fellow hun here, communism killed my great-grandfather. The stupid fucking Hungarian communist party drowned him in the river.

Fuck off leftist scum. Untermensch like you need to be gassed.

No. It's totalitarianism.
UBI is the ultimate affirmation that people should accept that all of the world's power is now inextricably concentrated in the hands of (((a few))).
UBI gives that (((Few))) absolute authority over where people live. What people eat. Where people can or can not go.
UBIfags need to neck themselves.
UBI isn't a solution. It's the final symptom of a greater problem.

worse. it's dehumanizing and slavery.

We've already seen what happens when you introduce generous welfare programs to the black community. Women no longer seek out men for permanent relationships and men no longer feel responsible for their offspring. This in turn creates developmental problems for said offspring who grow up and normalize this behavior, creating a viscous spiral of social and moral decay. Society goes backwards, as people grow up thinking that the government exists solely to give them money and resources while giving nothing back other than the promise of a vote.

>universal basic income
It's what needs to happen, I know that much.

It's a step towards Socialism.
Free jewbux to people who don't contribute to society drained from people who actually work.

Nah, Ontario is already a mess. What better way to find out whether UBI is magic or whether it just makes a bigger mess?

Should be a good and relatively harmless case study to settle the matter.

Here's my better solution than UBI:
#1. Ban the short selling of real estate.
#2. Bring back homesteading (except with personal limitations).
#3. People who can't find a job can create purpose for themselves through subsistence farming.
>b-but I can't buy an iphone with potatoes Solution: KYS if it's that important to you.

>Free jewbux to people who don't contribute to society drained from people who actually work.
what is inheritance Paolo?

No, but it produces an unsustainable welfare state which slowly dehumanizes it's dependent population.
Source: we had the comfiest living standards in the Eastern bloc with the highest suicide rate.

>bring back homesteading

thats the last thing the government wants. they want people to be dependent on the government, not the opposite.

Yes, more specifically it's Marxist utopianism, complete equality. A single class of people.

Also Finland did a trial of UBI and it was not successful.

Yes goyim, don't work so your children will inherit what you have saved, just live for yourself, daddy state will support you!

Inheritance is different though
Someone in a family built a wealth and passes it down to the successors.
UBI is taking tax money from working people and giving it to Jamal, Laqueesha and their 7 Tyrones

I know it will never happen. But that is the most ethical solution to losing jobs through automation. UBI = no job you're a slave.
My idea = no job you're free

State workers do.

i have absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make. An individual choosing to give away their own personal property at the time of death has nothing to do with giving 'free stuff to people who dont contribute to society'.

Actions that are acceptable for an individual are not necessarily appropriate for state actors.

How long did they try it? Seems like just the other month I heard they were planning to give it a shot.

What lesson was learned? I figured it was a poor choice of test case since Finland is already more or less accustomed to scandinavian style socialism, which did seem to demonstrably work alright until they started undermining the cultural basis.

How can they own it? Aren't they delegated the job?

communism wants to create a stateless, moneyless, classless society - a retarded pipe dream

UBI is just welfare on steroids - also a retarded pipe dream