Why is Sup Forums pro-Catalonia and pro-Scotland?

They are literally the most cucked parts of their respective countries. They should be kept in check under central governments.

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I'm an Englishman but it's because of national self-determination m8. If the Scots want to be independent it's their right to be.

If you were still under Sweden's yoke they'd probably be sending Abdul your way.

>(((Scots)))

literally none of them left. It's just tons of marxist larpers going on about muh celtic pride while the population is in free fall to shitskins.

because its russia propaganda and they want europe down.
Why is Sup Forums supporting communist?

We are as cucked as the rest of Europe finngol. Not more not less.

>its russia propaganda
murica is as (((bad))) as russia mate

The entire North East of Scotland voted Tory. What are you on about?

>while the population is in free fall to shitskins.
is this what delusion looks like?

>Sup Forums is one person
i hope that spaniards and the english will keep their cucks in their borders

Such projection, much anger. Many lies. Terrible misunderstanding. Delusion.

stop with that shit faggot

Because Sup Forums is full of autistics.

Sup Forums are whackjobs

I been to Catalonia they are indeed cucked

>lose a war 300 years ago
>still cry about it today and to gay cheer leader public demonstrations

>never once try to fight back for their independence


Honestly I dont respect any independent movement whoe hasnt used violence to make the ruling government fuck off, thats literally how every country has been made

thsank gou badsred fanrmes and fishenmr

We tried but long ago.

Especially Americans have no fucking clue about european politics, but they know it triggers most fags.

>pol pro Scottish independence
not really.
the posters that where mysteriously disappeared after a certain referendum...

Where does self determination end. Should Moray be independent from Scotland? Should Lossiemouth be independent from Moray?

At what point do you say enough is enough? Or is the UK just supposed to balkanise until there are hundreds of different nations on Great Britain?

Also this. Modern Scots think that talking funny and wearing skirts is a distinctive culture.

I support every secessionist movement. Pic related is perfect Europe.

I think scots see how english are giving lots of gibs to sand niggers and they are not getting their piece of the pie.

>Muh united Ireland

There are more people in Northern Ireland that think NI should be independent than people in Cornwall who think Cornwall should be independent.

Also, why does everyone always think the boundary to an independent Cornwall would be the boundary to the modern day county? The Kingdom of Cornwall included most of modern day Devon too.

Sup Forums has been, is, and will be pro chaos.

Catalan here, I don't even want independència, I would only vot for it to see what happens.

We're in the dawn of WWIII and I'm still bored.

I, Indà, Indà-pandèn-cià.

>Snp cucks detected
Picked up your methadone yet lowlander?

Scots do get their massively disproportionate piece of the pie.

They get much more from public spending than they generate in tax.

>no central lithuania
>no latgalia
this map is shit

Is really any ideology behind it? Pol is pro chaos and pro happening. Countries falling apart is just that

more than the pakis who live on wellfare?
I didn't mean a fair share.

>I, Indà, Indà-pandèn-cià.
He would be ashamed.

Balkanisation of states is the best way to have a government closest to its people and to save our regional identities.

Scotland is a huge drain on the UK finances because they have stupid shit like free education for everyone in the EU (except people from England and Wales). Even with their oil revenue, their budget deficit floats between 5% and 10%. Occasionally drifts above it sometimes.

As a Norman, This is beautiful.

Also this.

FUCK OFF YOU DEGENERATE MONGOL

CATALONIA IS THE LAND OF MOOR SLAYERS

THE FOUR RED STRIPES OF OUR FLAG ARE LITERALLY THE FOUR FINGERS SOAKED IN BLOOD OF GUIFRÉ EL PILÓS, FIGHTING MUSLIMS MORE THAN ONE THOUSAND YEARS AGO

CATALUNYA SERÀ CRISTIANA O NO SERÀ

MORI EL BORBÓ

MORI EL MAL GOVERN

CORPUS DE SANG

"—Ont és vostre capità?,
aont és vostra bandera?
Varen treure'l bon Jesús,
tot cobert ab un vel negre.
—Aquí és nostre capità,aquesta és la nostra bandera.
A les armes, catalans,
qu'ens han declarat la guerra!"

Amen to that
youtube.com/watch?v=t4xVI-tPqss

Why do fags like you always go on about 'muh independence'

France is literally one of the greatest countries in the history of the world. Why would you want to identify yourself with a bunch of people form 1000 years ago that you can't culturally identify at all rather than the great nation you already belong to.

It's the same with the Scots. UK was best country in the world for a long time. Scotland outside the UK was just a string of constant failure and pretty much nothing to be proud of other than the occasional battle. But they chose to identify as 'SCOTASH' because they want to be a special snowflake. Cornish independence people are the worst.

>regionalism means secessionism
kys my man

Self determination is a meme mate

You're not dumb enough to believe that your birth rates will bounce back on their own, or immigrants will just stop entering the country and reproducing are you?

Centralisation is bad. Scotland's too large an entity (and don't get me started on the blob that is England) even Finland could do with splitting down into three, smaller duchies.

>Way more, your politicians are corrupt to the core (see the Jordi family)

>Catalonia was never a nation

>The major of Barcelona the capital of the Catalan region is a far-left politician, that panders to communists and feminists

>How to spark intra-ethnic violence: the post

>Dude we're from Kent, fuck those guys from Sussex lets go kill them then get fucking over-run by muslims because we're too busy killing each other

Did you learn nothing from medieval Europe?

It would be no worse than the Geordie v Maccam or Scouse v Manc stuff we have now. All of Europe's most violent bloodlines died out and we're left with the cucked, genetic dregs. Look at the state of Europe for proof.

>implying Europe isn't full of secessionist movements
Read more faggot:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_Europe

>Scouse v Manc
>Football rivalries that sometimes erupt into violence are worse than splitting Europe up into hundreds of tiny states that would inevitably be overrun by someone with a bigger stick.

Why do you think large nationals prevailed? Small nations are always subject to their more powerful neighbours, especially when they are fighting each other. See the Islamic conquest of Iberia, or the Ottomans taking Constantinople.

Join or die.

because nationalism. Ever heard of it?

>Way more, your politicians are corrupt to the core (see the Jordi family)
Literally every single politician in Spain is corrupted. And Andalucía is by far the most corrupt place.

>Catalonia was never a nation
Definition of Nation according to the Cambridge dictionary: a country, especially when thought of as a large group of people living in one area with their own government, language, traditions, etc.
We are currently a Nation.

>>The major of Barcelona the capital of the Catalan region is a far-left politician, that panders to communists and feminists
Like London and any other capital city of Europe, see Madrid, they forbid manspreading and have a refugees welcome flag in the town hall (I'm not joking).

It's not.

Ottomans and Moors are bad examples to use considering they are not Europeans (and the Ottomans were merely finishing off a massive Empire that Venice fucked hard)

>Join or die

Nah, join or get hashtagged at. As I said, Europe's fight is gone out of it.

Can't be nationalist for a country that doesn't exist.

Being nationalistic for Scotland is just as stupid as being nationalistic towards Kent.

>Modern Scots think that talking funny and wearing skirts is a distinctive culture.

Kek.
Check out traditional Scottish dancing, traditional Scottish dress, traditionally Scottish music, Scottish poetry and storytelling, read the history of Scotland.

Now compare those with Englands.

Claiming Scotland doesn't have a distinct culture comes from a place of insecurity due to Englands cultural wasteland.

>and the Ottomans were merely finishing off a massive Empire that Venice fucked hard

This is exactly my point. The Byzantine empire fell because the Christians were all fighting among themselves.

It's a shit point then. A better example would have been the Danes attacking Northumbria.

>Can't be nationalist for a country that doesn't exist.
Have you ever heard of Romanticism? Do you even know what Nationalism is ahmed?

divide and conquer goy

A nation means a distinct people.
Claiming Scotland doesn't exist is like a Han Chinese kike claiming Tibet doesn't exist.

Inb4 I get called an SNP shill by the Anglo kike trying to deny a European cultures existence. I didn't vote SNP.

jesus christ, I hope this is bait

Thanks for proving my point retard. Scots always think that shit like National Dress and music and poetry are the epitome of a countries social culture.

We don't have shit like a national dress in England because we don't need it. We don't need to prove to anybody that we have a culture by wearing funny clothes, because we know what we stand for.

The Scots aren't a distinct people. They are pretty much indistinguishable from the English. We
>Are ethnically almost indistinguishable
>Speak the same language
>Have the same religious history and habits
>Have an almost identicel deep culture.

The only thing that really separates Scots and the English is that they talk a little different. This is what I mean that Scotland doesn't exist. Neither does England. Britain has a distinct society that is shared between the UK nations (and to a lesser extent, Ireland). England and Scotland ceased to exist in any meaningful way during the industrial revolution. Anybody who still feel nationalist towards Scotland or England is blind to romanticism.

[spoiler]I'm not saying that no countries have different identities and cultures, I'm just saying that the difference between England and Scotland is so tiny it is basically non-existent.

*identical

Also
>inb4 this chart that shows ethnic differences in Europe
Devon and Yorkshire have slight ethnic differences, but they are tiny enough to be meaningless. Both are still English and in all practical terms are indistinguishable from each other except for surface shit like accents and food.

>Scots always think that shit like National Dress and music and poetry are the epitome of a countries social culture.

What's yours lad?

>We don't need to prove to anybody we have a culture

I think you do lad because no one thinks you do kek.

>We know what we stand for

Whats that then? No one else knows what you stand for...

> Funny clothes

Yeah funny to a cultureless salty globalised Anglo kike sheep kek

America is easier to (((control))) because it's a single country, if every state were a country, then 50 countries would require more effort to (((control)))...

>le anglo meme

I honestly don't know why I come to this site. You can't have a meaningful discussion about Britain without it decending into "LE ANGLO MAYMAY" or "WE WUZ KELTZ AND SHEIT!"

If you think that a society's culture is determined by stuff like music, food and clothes, then you're clearly the one who is uncultured.

Yeah so what is your culture defined by?
Why don't you have unique culture?

They do obviously otherwise you wouldn't be so hell bent on trying to be different from them

>They are literally the most cucked parts of their respective countries. They should be kept in check under central governments.
Some people say the same about us, Bretons.

Except that even without Brittany, France would still be the most cucked country in Europe. And same for England and Spain. Let's face it.

Actually Scotland gives the left a huge advantage in the u.k. Without Scotland the tories would dominate

What was the reaction of English people after the Muslim attacks in London and Manchester? Fucking nothing.
What was the reaction of English people after the mass rape of pedo Paki? Fucking nothing.

"Dindu nuffin, it's Scots fault if muh country is shit!"

You belong to Russia then.

Anti muslim sentiment is censored in the British media

We don't have to try, it happened over a millennia and is a reality everywhere except in the minds of a handful of Sup Forums shut ins.

Wouldnt that make you French and German?

Spaniards are shitskins and England is enriched. On the other hand these two indy movements are cucked open borders filth

>Poland is Catholic dump
>Scotland has about 40% "Irish" Catholics that want their own country (Ireland 2.0) despite the fact they could fuck off back to Ireland

I wonder why the poles would support the "Scottish" (ie republican fucks that don't deserve to live here)

Quite the opposite. America united is strong, it has bargaining power. Divided they are weaker, it's easier to bend their will. Can't control one state? No problem, you still have many states around them you can coerce into a war to weaken the rebel one.

They are coming here. You guys are our largest migrant group.
Economic migrants to be sure. Ignore the file name.

S-Shut it down!

I'm a Catholic who wants Scotland to be independent yet I also would quite like to remain a monarchy. The Stuarts aren't really an option anymore so I'll stick with the Windsors, if somewhat grudgingly.

Pro-Catalonia, anti-Scotland. Catalonia actually have a real history. Scotland on the other hand is pretty much a Macedonia-tier fake country.

t. Beta white cuck who abandoned his country to lose his virginity to a white worshipping Asian hooker.

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion, other than being a Catalonian who wants to ingratiate yourself to Sup Forums.

Castille and Catalonia, along with the other Iberian kingdoms, are largely indistinguishable legacies of the Reconquista.

Hopefully just pakis with UK passports. Have fun!

An independent Scotland would be a disaster at this moment in time, they rely heavily on oil trading at 100 dollars per barrel which is unrealistically high during a time when nobody is really trading oil due to the huge surplus many states have of it.

Although Scottish culture is distinct enough for it to work as an independent nation culturally, whereas somewhere such as Northern Ireland has an entire culture based on the idea of being "British"

>wales arguably the best preserved celtic culture of them all
>scotcucks still have a stronger drive for independence

I'm sure this numbers are heavily influenced by unionist's who identify as British but choose to work in Ireland.

Why Norman ?
Because it's a culture of its own and that in France it will be oblitarated to make room for parisian culture, because that's what France is, it's Paris. I don't hate France, I actually love my country, but I do believe balkanization is a way to preserve the cultural diversity of the regions of Europe.

Think what the European Union is doing to all European countries but on a smaller scale.

That's why independance is needed, it doesnt mean to deny our glorious past as part of the French nation, but it is to also recognize our existence as a cultural entity.

It will also have the added benefits of creating governments closer to the people, which is always a great thing.

>Where does self determination end. Should Moray be independent from Scotland? Should Lossiemouth be independent from Moray?
unironically yes

>are largely indistinguishable legacies of the Reconquista
So?

So they are indistinguishable. They have one identity. Spanish.

>Think what the European Union is doing to all European countries but on a smaller scale.
It's even worst than that.

France destroyed pretty much all native languages.
Flemish, Breton, Alsacian, Platt Lothringer, Occitan dialects, Basque, Corsican and Arpitan dialects. No mention to the French oïl dialects.
Sure some are still alive in some places but it's nothing in comparison what it used to be.

So the graph for Ireland is just a flatline at 0% ?

Thanks I know the impact the IIIrd republic had unfortunately, but I mean, right now.
I'm linguistics student, deaths of so many languages saddens me, a lot.

It's the opposite if we talk history. Scottish and Scotland are superior race on part with the English, non-Occitan French, Nords and Germans

>They have one identity. Spanish
That's where you're wrong kiddo, stay mad ahmed.

I'm not scottish though, i'm british

Ah yes, because sandniggers are notorious for their Carlism.

>but I mean, right now.
Yeah, I know what you mean.

Dividing western European states by ethnicities won't help the globalists because it gives arguments to ethnic nationalists. A black "French" is not shocking anymore because the French nation as we know was created by universalistic Republican masons. But talking about a black "Alsacian" or an Arab "Breton" don't make a single sense. It's like talking about a Chinese nigger.

People saying that these separatism help globalists are out of touch. The EU, the bank (((of Scotland))) or people like Soros were opposed to the Scottish independence.
Also the neo FN who is fully sovereignist or the UKIP who is against the EU are pro-multiracial, therefore they are fake anti-globalists.

That being said, I don't think anymore Breton independence has a meaning now. The priority is to remove all immigrants and all leftists from Europe.

All that matters is eugenic racialism. Globalism that champions extermination of non-pure Europeans is a good thing for instance. Globalism is not bad by itself, "we are all human" mentality is

>pro-Scotland

I doubt you know what really is globalism.